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Especially with this weeks match up.

I understand he has had two consecutive 400 yard passing games with 3 passing TD. But it was against two of the worst pass defenses in the league. What has he done when facing a good pass D? He played a good Colts 4 just weeks ago and had 200 yards and an interception. I can't understand why FBG's has him ranked so high in week 13 with the Pats facing the best pass D, the best run D and the best overall D in the league. He has faced some of the worst pass defenses in the league in this year (Dolphins x 2, Jets x 2, Rams, Broncos, Chargers, 49ers, Chiefs) and until two weeks ago, has not been all that impressive.

Can someone convince me why he is a must start over guys available on many waiver wires with better match ups.

Garcia vs Saints 24th ranked pass D

Garrard vs Texans 13th ranked pass D

Flacco vs Bangles 15th ranked pass D

Edwards vs 49ers 29th ranked pass D

Collins vs Lions 19th ranked pass D

Hill vs Bills 16th ranked pass D

Rosenfels vs Jaguars 14th ranked pass D

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400 yards passing 2 weeks in a row.

Looks like a legit NFL QB.

Has Randy Moss.

Has Wes Welker.

Has Josh McDaniels.

No running game.

Patriots have to pass to win.

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Own him in FFOC only and he has single handedly help me make the cut the last two weeks as my FLEX option. In that format he is consistently putting up positive points and they only take 1 away for an interception. Looks like NE has finally figure out what he is capable of and he does that very well.

Every now and again there comes a guy towards the end of the year who just puts up big numbers....if this year it is indeed Cassel, I am not going to miss that boat with him on my bench.

NE struggles to run the ball and they give up points. Perfect storm to keep Cassel throwing, and BB knows to keep it to those short throws. The yardage looks like it will always be there. The TDs are what will separate the big weeks from the so-so weeks.

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400 yards passing 2 weeks in a row.Looks like a legit NFL QB.Has Randy Moss.Has Wes Welker.Has Josh McDaniels.No running game.Patriots have to pass to win.

Last year, 3 of the olinemen went to the pro bowl. Injuries which have plagued the oline from the superbowl through current are pretty much cleared up now. While the numbers against Pitt might not be there, the Pats are positioned to make a run if the oline stays healthy.

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Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

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I'm probably going to start Cassel this week over Rodgers - but this is a prime example of "chasing" points so I'm sure Cassel will put up a stinker.

Can we morph this into a "I'm starting Cassel over ____" thread?

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I am starting him over Brees just for fun. I am already eliminated from the playoffs.

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14 12/7/08 @ SEA 4:05pm

15 12/14/08 @ OAK 4:15pm

16 12/21/08 ARI 1:00pm

17 12/28/08 @ BUF 1:00pm

divisional play off weeks for me. thats why I scooped him

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14 12/7/08 @ SEA 4:05pm

15 12/14/08 @ OAK 4:15pm

16 12/21/08 ARI 1:00pm

17 12/28/08 @ BUF 1:00pm

divisional play off weeks for me. thats why I scooped him

Playing at Seattle is always rough and Oakland has one of the pass defenses, partly because their run D is so bad, so not sure why you think those are good matchups , but the best of luck to ya.

Cassel still can't throw a deep ball, but he'll be good yardage-wise against defenses that stop the run like the Jets and Miami because of all the dumpoffs to running backs and Welker which they use as their running game.

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It's not just the 400 yds it's the way he is seeing the field. He has never really forced the ball into coverage making him susceptible to interceptions. A lot of his yards have come from receivers YAC but part of that is because they spread the field and he often gets the receivers one on one with the d'backs with an opportunity to run.

If you can't see the difference between Collins, Hill, Rosenfels and Cassel maybe you ought to choose a different hobby.

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I'll be sitting him for Cutler, but after that, I think it's going to be Cassel. I think he comes back to earth this week v PIT.

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I'm starting Garrard over Cassel. I think the PitT D holds them down this week.

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I have had him on the bench the last two weeks and really could have used those points - but I am going with Garcia again. I like the matchup with the Saints and a possible shootout. Cassel has not reached the "always start your studs" league just yet and I would be looking at him for a favorable matchup and the Steelers are not the D you want a young and somewhat inexperienced QB going against.

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Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

:lmao: :lmao: :loco::confused::lmao:

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It's not just the 400 yds it's the way he is seeing the field. He has never really forced the ball into coverage making him susceptible to interceptions. A lot of his yards have come from receivers YAC but part of that is because they spread the field and he often gets the receivers one on one with the d'backs with an opportunity to run.If you can't see the difference between Collins, Hill, Rosenfels and Cassel maybe you ought to choose a different hobby.

I'm not saying there is not a difference between them, but I do see a big difference between who they are playing against in week 13.

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Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

:lmao:

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Does anyone seriously think Cassle will be the 2nd or 3rd highest scoring QB this week? :confused:

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Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

Lets not get carried away.

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Does anyone seriously think Cassle will be the 2nd or 3rd highest scoring QB this week? :D

Some of the FBG sure seem to. I don't consider them crazy.

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Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

Lets not get carried away.

Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

:loco:

Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

:ptts::bag::loco::bag::lmao:
Hook, line, and sinker. :thumbup:

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Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

Lets not get carried away.

Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

:loco:

Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

:lmao: :lmao: :loco::lmao: :lmao:
Hook, line, and sinker. :lol:
You may be just joking, but you could get a non-Collinsworth network job with that kind of analysis.For your next act, just try to convince us that Kerry Collins is a legit MVP candidate and you're hired.

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Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

Lets not get carried away.

Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

:loco:

Because he appears to be every bit as good as Brady now that he has a half a season worth of games under his belt.

:lmao: :lmao: :loco::lmao::loco:
Hook, line, and sinker. :lmao:
So you were fishing? Isn't that against the spirit of the Shark Pool? :lol:

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If I had known the AZ WRs were going to drop most of the passes that hit them in the hands I would have started Cassel. Oh and don't bother, I'm already :ptts: while I hit my Captain Morgans :bag:

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if he blows up again this week against PIT, i'll be starting him over Peyton the rest of the way...which is when he'll probably fall apart

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

:goodposting:

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

:goodposting:
I'll bump this when Cassel falls on his face for his new team.

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

:goodposting:
I'll bump this when Cassel falls on his face for his new team.
Okay, I'll bite.

That's not what I was rolling my eyes at. This is: System QB just like Brady.

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

:rolleyes:
I'll bump this when Cassel falls on his face for his new team.
Okay, I'll bite.

That's not what I was rolling my eyes at. This is: System QB just like Brady.

Hard to prove that since he'll more than likely retire a Pat. But he would not be as good with any other team, that's why he was passed over so many times by the entire league. They both play for the best NFL coach ever.

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

:rolleyes:
I'll bump this when Cassel falls on his face for his new team.
Okay, I'll bite.

That's not what I was rolling my eyes at. This is: System QB just like Brady.

Hard to prove that since he'll more than likely retire a Pat. But he would not be as good with any other team, that's why he was passed over so many times by the entire league. They both play for the best NFL coach ever.
This is a pretty weak argument to back up the assertion that Brady is a system QB. Do you honestly believe that if that draft could be done over, Brady would go any lower than the 1st overall pick?

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

:rolleyes:
I'll bump this when Cassel falls on his face for his new team.
Okay, I'll bite.

That's not what I was rolling my eyes at. This is: System QB just like Brady.

Hard to prove that since he'll more than likely retire a Pat. But he would not be as good with any other team, that's why he was passed over so many times by the entire league. They both play for the best NFL coach ever.
This is a pretty weak argument to back up the assertion that Brady is a system QB. Do you honestly believe that if that draft could be done over, Brady would go any lower than the 1st overall pick?
LOL. By the same guys who passed him over 6 times? Just because they would take him now doesn't mean they would get the same performance. Or do you think he would have won the Lions a few Super Bowls by now? The better Cassel gets under NE's system the more my point is proven. Will it take a 3rd unknown QB to make you believe?

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

:rolleyes:
I'll bump this when Cassel falls on his face for his new team.
Okay, I'll bite.

That's not what I was rolling my eyes at. This is: System QB just like Brady.

Hard to prove that since he'll more than likely retire a Pat. But he would not be as good with any other team, that's why he was passed over so many times by the entire league. They both play for the best NFL coach ever.
This is a pretty weak argument to back up the assertion that Brady is a system QB. Do you honestly believe that if that draft could be done over, Brady would go any lower than the 1st overall pick?
LOL. By the same guys who passed him over 6 times? Just because they would take him now doesn't mean they would get the same performance. Or do you think he would have won the Lions a few Super Bowls by now?
The Patriots WERE the Lions before Brady/Belichick.

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

:rolleyes:
I'll bump this when Cassel falls on his face for his new team.
Okay, I'll bite.

That's not what I was rolling my eyes at. This is: System QB just like Brady.

Hard to prove that since he'll more than likely retire a Pat. But he would not be as good with any other team, that's why he was passed over so many times by the entire league. They both play for the best NFL coach ever.
This is a pretty weak argument to back up the assertion that Brady is a system QB. Do you honestly believe that if that draft could be done over, Brady would go any lower than the 1st overall pick?
LOL. By the same guys who passed him over 6 times? Just because they would take him now doesn't mean they would get the same performance. Or do you think he would have won the Lions a few Super Bowls by now?
The Patriots WERE the Lions before Brady/Belichick.
True, but Belichick never worked for the Lions. He's too smart for that.

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

:rolleyes:
I'll bump this when Cassel falls on his face for his new team.
Okay, I'll bite.

That's not what I was rolling my eyes at. This is: System QB just like Brady.

Hard to prove that since he'll more than likely retire a Pat. But he would not be as good with any other team, that's why he was passed over so many times by the entire league. They both play for the best NFL coach ever.
This is a pretty weak argument to back up the assertion that Brady is a system QB. Do you honestly believe that if that draft could be done over, Brady would go any lower than the 1st overall pick?
LOL. By the same guys who passed him over 6 times? Just because they would take him now doesn't mean they would get the same performance. Or do you think he would have won the Lions a few Super Bowls by now?
They would certainly be far better off.

Obviously, any player is going to be more successful if he is working with better players and coaches. This is true for anyone; not just Tom Brady. Is Joe Montana a "system QB" because he played under Bill Walsh, with the likes of Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Roger Craig, etc? Is Peyton Manning a "system QB" because he's had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Edgerrin James to play with?

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

:rolleyes:
I'll bump this when Cassel falls on his face for his new team.
Okay, I'll bite.

That's not what I was rolling my eyes at. This is: System QB just like Brady.

Hard to prove that since he'll more than likely retire a Pat. But he would not be as good with any other team, that's why he was passed over so many times by the entire league. They both play for the best NFL coach ever.
This is a pretty weak argument to back up the assertion that Brady is a system QB. Do you honestly believe that if that draft could be done over, Brady would go any lower than the 1st overall pick?
LOL. By the same guys who passed him over 6 times? Just because they would take him now doesn't mean they would get the same performance. Or do you think he would have won the Lions a few Super Bowls by now?
The Patriots WERE the Lions before Brady/Belichick.
True, but Belichick never worked for the Lions. He's too smart for that.
Belichick started his career with the Lions. :wall:

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

:rolleyes:
I'll bump this when Cassel falls on his face for his new team.
Okay, I'll bite.

That's not what I was rolling my eyes at. This is: System QB just like Brady.

Hard to prove that since he'll more than likely retire a Pat. But he would not be as good with any other team, that's why he was passed over so many times by the entire league. They both play for the best NFL coach ever.
This is a pretty weak argument to back up the assertion that Brady is a system QB. Do you honestly believe that if that draft could be done over, Brady would go any lower than the 1st overall pick?
LOL. By the same guys who passed him over 6 times? Just because they would take him now doesn't mean they would get the same performance. Or do you think he would have won the Lions a few Super Bowls by now?
They would certainly be far better off.

Obviously, any player is going to be more successful if he is working with better players and coaches. This is true for anyone; not just Tom Brady. Is Joe Montana a "system QB" because he played under Bill Walsh, with the likes of Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Roger Craig, etc? Is Peyton Manning a "system QB" because he's had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Edgerrin James to play with?

Until they do it in two different systems, yes they are.

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True, but Belichick never worked for the Lions. He's too smart for that.

The guy DID work for the Browns AND wore those ridiculous headbands.

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I feel bad for the team that overspends for him as a free agent. System QB just like Brady. Or do great 6th & 7th round draft picks just fall into Belichick's lap?

:rolleyes:
I'll bump this when Cassel falls on his face for his new team.
Okay, I'll bite.

That's not what I was rolling my eyes at. This is: System QB just like Brady.

Hard to prove that since he'll more than likely retire a Pat. But he would not be as good with any other team, that's why he was passed over so many times by the entire league. They both play for the best NFL coach ever.
This is a pretty weak argument to back up the assertion that Brady is a system QB. Do you honestly believe that if that draft could be done over, Brady would go any lower than the 1st overall pick?
LOL. By the same guys who passed him over 6 times? Just because they would take him now doesn't mean they would get the same performance. Or do you think he would have won the Lions a few Super Bowls by now?
They would certainly be far better off.

Obviously, any player is going to be more successful if he is working with better players and coaches. This is true for anyone; not just Tom Brady. Is Joe Montana a "system QB" because he played under Bill Walsh, with the likes of Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Roger Craig, etc? Is Peyton Manning a "system QB" because he's had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, and Edgerrin James to play with?

Until they do it in two different systems, yes they are.
So you're of the opinion that the Patriots ran the same offensive system in 2007 that they did in 2001?

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True, but Belichick never worked for the Lions. He's too smart for that.

The guy DID work for the Browns AND wore those ridiculous headbands.
LMFAO.... speaking of ridiculous headbands, I only clicked this topic to see what funny pic of Cecil/Sig you had as your avatar today.

nice

:rolleyes:

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lol @ the multiple :goodposting: in this thread.

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