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Whatever happened to that video camera from the pilot? The one where he tells Skylar that he did it all for her? Any chance that tape resurfaces at some point?

pretty sure he destroyed the tape/camera no?
He might have. If he didn't, I could see that coming around either getting into Hank's hands (less likely) or him finding just as he's about to destroy Skyler for threatening to take down his empire (more likely).

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Whatever happened to that video camera from the pilot? The one where he tells Skylar that he did it all for her? Any chance that tape resurfaces at some point?

pretty sure he destroyed the tape/camera no?
He might have. If he didn't, I could see that coming around either getting into Hank's hands (less likely) or him finding just as he's about to destroy Skyler for threatening to take down his empire (more likely).
Was the then confession even all that specific?

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here it is: http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/breaking-bad-confessions

can't listen at work.

Here it is:

Walter H. White: My name is Walter Hartwell White. I live at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane, Albuquerque, New Mexico. 87104. To all law enforcement entities, this is not an admission of guilt. I am speaking to my family now.

[covers camera momentarily]

Walter H. White: Skyler, you are the love of my life, I hope you know that. Walter junior, you're my big man. There are... there are going to be some things, things that you'll come to learn about me in the next few days. I just want you to know that, no matter how it may look, I only had you in my heart. Goodbye.

Edited by JerseyToughGuys

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Poor Mike's granddaughter, will never know how close she came to not having to work the pole.

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I've watched the Fly episode twice now and isn't certainly doesn't seem as good once you know that Walter doesn't spill the beans. Still, the last few minutes are among the most intense in the history of the show.

That episode reminds me of a football game that's bad for 58 minutes capped by a dramatic 98 yard TD drive.

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Poor Mike's granddaughter, will never know how close she came to not having to work the pole.

Dude, you are talking about a little kid. Get your mind out of the gutter. What the #### is wrong with you?

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I seriously can't imagine someone getting into this show and thinking that the main character is going to be some sort of moral paradigm. He sells meth, which ruins people's lives. You know this going in. Tony Soprano was a mobster, who also ostensibly ruined people's lives. Both characters, despite some redeeming or human qualities, are engaged in immoral acts.

I'm still waiting to read a psychologist's detailed analysis of Walter White.I think it would be an even more riveting study than Good Tony Soprano/Bad Tony Soprano/Kevin Finnerty, etc.
That whole therapy thing was worst part of The Sopranos. Edited by Marvin

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here it is: http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/breaking-bad-confessions

can't listen at work.

Here it is:

Walter H. White: My name is Walter Hartwell White. I live at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane, Albuquerque, New Mexico. 87104. To all law enforcement entities, this is not an admission of guilt. I am speaking to my family now.

[covers camera momentarily]

Walter H. White: Skyler, you are the love of my life, I hope you know that. Walter junior, you're my big man. There are... there are going to be some things, things that you'll come to learn about me in the next few days. I just want you to know that, no matter how it may look, I only had you in my heart. Goodbye.

I totally dont remember that.

When was it?

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here it is: http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/breaking-bad-confessions

can't listen at work.

Here it is:

Walter H. White: My name is Walter Hartwell White. I live at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane, Albuquerque, New Mexico. 87104. To all law enforcement entities, this is not an admission of guilt. I am speaking to my family now.

[covers camera momentarily]

Walter H. White: Skyler, you are the love of my life, I hope you know that. Walter junior, you're my big man. There are... there are going to be some things, things that you'll come to learn about me in the next few days. I just want you to know that, no matter how it may look, I only had you in my heart. Goodbye.

I totally dont remember that.

When was it?

First episode, like two minutes in, right?

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Poor Mike's granddaughter, will never know how close she came to not having to work the pole.

I'm not convinced the DEA has that money. The box was so full, he couldn't put another dollar in it. That means the lawyer would not have a need to open it the day the DEA was there.

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Poor Mike's granddaughter, will never know how close she came to not having to work the pole.

I'm not convinced the DEA has that money. The box was so full, he couldn't put another dollar in it. That means the lawyer would not have a need to open it the day the DEA was there.
I wasn't paying close attention, but maybe he was withdrawing in order to make legacy payments?

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Without the legacy payments it is only a matter of time until the guys locked up start talking. Pretty sure Mike said the Laundry owner was one of them and that he could make Jesse and Walt.

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Poor Mike's granddaughter, will never know how close she came to not having to work the pole.

I'm not convinced the DEA has that money. The box was so full, he couldn't put another dollar in it. That means the lawyer would not have a need to open it the day the DEA was there.
I wasn't paying close attention, but maybe he was withdrawing in order to make legacy payments?
Good point. I was assuming the legacy payments were coming from money outside the bank, but maybe not.

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I wasn't paying close attention, but maybe he was withdrawing in order to make legacy payments?

Good point. I was assuming the legacy payments were coming from money outside the bank, but maybe not.
They showed the lawyer bringing a briefcase full of money into the bank each time, so I don't think so. But if the lawyer flipped, I'd imagine he'd tell the DEA about all the safe deposit boxes, even if he didn't open one that day.

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Poor Mike's granddaughter, will never know how close she came to not having to work the pole.

I'm not convinced the DEA has that money. The box was so full, he couldn't put another dollar in it. That means the lawyer would not have a need to open it the day the DEA was there.
I wasn't paying close attention, but maybe he was withdrawing in order to make legacy payments?
Good point. I was assuming the legacy payments were coming from money outside the bank, but maybe not.
Then it doesn't make any sense for him to put that paper on the top of the cash that said to XXXX happy 18th birthday. If the lawyer was making withdrawals from that SD box, he would have to take that paper out, move it to the side, take money out, then put the paper back on top every time a legacy payment was made. Much easier to just put the happy birthday wish in when the last legacy withdrawal was made. I believe the inclusion of the note indicated the box would not be opened again until the granddaughter did on her 18th birthday.

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here it is: http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/breaking-bad-confessions

can't listen at work.

Here it is:

Walter H. White: My name is Walter Hartwell White. I live at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane, Albuquerque, New Mexico. 87104. To all law enforcement entities, this is not an admission of guilt. I am speaking to my family now.

[covers camera momentarily]

Walter H. White: Skyler, you are the love of my life, I hope you know that. Walter junior, you're my big man. There are... there are going to be some things, things that you'll come to learn about me in the next few days. I just want you to know that, no matter how it may look, I only had you in my heart. Goodbye.

I totally dont remember that.

When was it?

First episode, like two minutes in, right?
Yeah I just watched it on Netflix. Pretty awesome way to open a show up.

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here it is: http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/breaking-bad-confessions

can't listen at work.

Here it is:

Walter H. White: My name is Walter Hartwell White. I live at 308 Negra Arroyo Lane, Albuquerque, New Mexico. 87104. To all law enforcement entities, this is not an admission of guilt. I am speaking to my family now.

[covers camera momentarily]

Walter H. White: Skyler, you are the love of my life, I hope you know that. Walter junior, you're my big man. There are... there are going to be some things, things that you'll come to learn about me in the next few days. I just want you to know that, no matter how it may look, I only had you in my heart. Goodbye.

I totally dont remember that.

When was it?

First episode, like two minutes in, right?
Yes. The cold open is Walter barreling through the desert in the RV, Jesse passed out in the front seat with the gas-mask on, 8-Ball and his cousin out cold in the back. He hears sirens coming, pulls over and makes a confession. Turns out to be just fire trucks who whiz by him.

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The cold open is Walter barreling through the desert in the RV, Jesse passed out in the front seat with the gas-mask on, 8-Ball and his cousin out cold in the back. He hears sirens coming, pulls over and makes a confession. Turns out to be just fire trucks who whiz by him.

And then after the opening credits, Walt Jr. eats breakfast.

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The cold open is Walter barreling through the desert in the RV, Jesse passed out in the front seat with the gas-mask on, 8-Ball and his cousin out cold in the back. He hears sirens coming, pulls over and makes a confession. Turns out to be just fire trucks who whiz by him.

And then after the opening credits, Walt Jr. eats breakfast.
You know what would be awesome, if the next episode features Flynn eating breakfast with Meera and Jojen Reed.

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Now that the legacy payments have stopped since Mike is gone and was supposed to cover the payments, what is Walt's next move?

I think that he will go to Lydia, threatening to off her if she does not give up the list of names. Once he has the names, I think he has Todd reach out to his prison connections to take care of the people on this list. Maybe in exchange for teaching Todd his formula.

Lydia is just about as bat#### crazy as Walt, so this could really go in any direction.

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From the all time high last week with the great train heist to one of the dumbest last 5 minutes of this show ever. Seriously? A plastic handcuff with a chemist who has a propensity to wiggle out of situations? Am I the only person who is openly rooting for Walt to die? I was ready for Mike to kill him tonight, how come Jesse and Mike don't just kill Walter? It would be perfect, Skyler would never miss him. The whole story of why he wouldn't cash in for $5m and they all go their separate ways...thru 4 seasons you kind of were rooting for Walt and you could understand what pushed him...but now he is like the Green Goblin in Spiderman, he's possessed, he's outta control, he wants to "Build an Empire"But the end of that show...Mike suddenly has to run an errand and leaves Walt alone with the meth? No show is perfect but I found the episode tonight to be really dumb at the end. he's a freakin chemistry teacher, Heisenberg is an imagination. But he is like a wild animal that has killed now and has a taste for blood. 2 more weeks to be held hostage for another 6-8 months, great.

I think you're looking for realism in a show that is easily the best on TV at this moment. Adjust your expectations and enjoy this sheer brilliance.

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Have not read through the posts about last night's episode yet. Looking forward to that. I thought that was easily the best episode during the show's entire run. It was also the first time I disliked Walt. I guess Gilligan is going to try and force us to dislike him the rest of the series. I don't want to though.

You didn't dislike Walt when he was willing to poison an innocent child?

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The cold open is Walter barreling through the desert in the RV, Jesse passed out in the front seat with the gas-mask on, 8-Ball and his cousin out cold in the back. He hears sirens coming, pulls over and makes a confession. Turns out to be just fire trucks who whiz by him.

And then after the opening credits, Walt Jr. eats breakfast.
You know what would be awesome, if the next episode features Flynn eating breakfast with Meera and Jojen Reed.
My mind is blown.

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So bummed Mike was killed and the way it was done, then the senselessness of it all as Walt could have gotten the info elsewhere. What a waste of a good character.

I don't understand that. How was killing Mike going to get him the names? I thought he killed Mike out of rage for what he said to Walt and how he treated him, not because he wouldn't give up the names.
Well I think he was hoping Mike would give him the names just so he could gain some satisfaction that Mike was afraid of him. Of course that wasn't going to happen so Walt capped him. But hey, by Mike's own standard his killing was justified by how much he knew.
Seriously? Are you guys watching the same show as the Noid and I?JZ, I don't even know where to begin with your post. :unsure:
Not sure what I said here that's so outrageous, but OK

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I wasn't paying close attention, but maybe he was withdrawing in order to make legacy payments?

Good point. I was assuming the legacy payments were coming from money outside the bank, but maybe not.
They showed the lawyer bringing a briefcase full of money into the bank each time, so I don't think so. But if the lawyer flipped, I'd imagine he'd tell the DEA about all the safe deposit boxes, even if he didn't open one that day.
My understanding was that the lawyer was making drops and then the families of the guys owed the legacy payments would show up later on their own to pickup the money. I thought that after he made the first drop we saw he said something to Mike along the lines of "the families have been making the pickups" or something like that. There were nine guys on the list and, I think, nine different small boxes. I took the big box for Mike's granddaughter as one that would only get a one-time drop and that Mike probably had left some kind of instructions for the girl's mother to go open that box when the granddaughter turns 18.Either way, the legacy payments are about to stop and it appears that could be a significant problem for Walt.ETA: Regarding the big box: As the teller was going around opening all the nine boxes the lawyer said something to her like "I have one more today." My guess is just that once Mike got his $5 million he had the lawyer deposit a portion of it in that box for the granddaughter with the expectation it would never be opened again until she turned 18. Edited by DocGonzo

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I wasn't paying close attention, but maybe he was withdrawing in order to make legacy payments?

Good point. I was assuming the legacy payments were coming from money outside the bank, but maybe not.
They showed the lawyer bringing a briefcase full of money into the bank each time, so I don't think so. But if the lawyer flipped, I'd imagine he'd tell the DEA about all the safe deposit boxes, even if he didn't open one that day.
My understanding was that the lawyer was making drops and then the families of the guys owed the legacy payments would show up later on their own to pickup the money. I thought that after he made the first drop we saw he said something to Mike along the lines of "the families have been making the pickups" or something like that. There were nine guys on the list and, I think, nine different small boxes. I took the big box for Mike's granddaughter as one that would only get a one-time drop and that Mike probably had left some kind of instructions for the girl's mother to go open that box when the granddaughter turns 18.Either way, the legacy payments are about to stop and it appears that could be a significant problem for Walt.
Yes, this is obvious. It's why Walt was asking for the names. It's why in the previews he is talking to Lydia etc.

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Now that the legacy payments have stopped since Mike is gone and was supposed to cover the payments, what is Walt's next move? I think that he will go to Lydia, threatening to off her if she does not give up the list of names. Once he has the names, I think he has Todd reach out to his prison connections to take care of the people on this list. Maybe in exchange for teaching Todd his formula. Lydia is just about as bat#### crazy as Walt, so this could really go in any direction.

Why would Walt need to threaten Lydia to give up the names when she was the one who wanted to kill them all in the first place, along with Mike, who Walt has now taken care of for her? :confused:

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I wasn't paying close attention, but maybe he was withdrawing in order to make legacy payments?

Good point. I was assuming the legacy payments were coming from money outside the bank, but maybe not.
They showed the lawyer bringing a briefcase full of money into the bank each time, so I don't think so. But if the lawyer flipped, I'd imagine he'd tell the DEA about all the safe deposit boxes, even if he didn't open one that day.
My understanding was that the lawyer was making drops and then the families of the guys owed the legacy payments would show up later on their own to pickup the money. I thought that after he made the first drop we saw he said something to Mike along the lines of "the families have been making the pickups" or something like that. There were nine guys on the list and, I think, nine different small boxes. I took the big box for Mike's granddaughter as one that would only get a one-time drop and that Mike probably had left some kind of instructions for the girl's mother to go open that box when the granddaughter turns 18.Either way, the legacy payments are about to stop and it appears that could be a significant problem for Walt.
Yes, this is obvious. It's why Walt was asking for the names. It's why in the previews he is talking to Lydia etc.
:thumbup:

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Now that the legacy payments have stopped since Mike is gone and was supposed to cover the payments, what is Walt's next move?

I think that he will go to Lydia, threatening to off her if she does not give up the list of names. Once he has the names, I think he has Todd reach out to his prison connections to take care of the people on this list. Maybe in exchange for teaching Todd his formula.

Lydia is just about as bat#### crazy as Walt, so this could really go in any direction.

Did you already see the sneak peek of this weeks episode?

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Marc Maron re-released a podcast today he did with Bryan Cranston.

Worth checking out. :thumbup:

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From his conversation with Saul, it seemed like they thought 1 of the 9 could flip on Mike, and then Mike may flip on Walt. Based on this, I was thinking that Walt was either going to get the 9 names (to eliminate them), or kill Mike (the direct link to him). Either way he'd be protecting himself. It seemed like Walt thought of Lydia having the names AFTER he shot Mike, and kind of regretted doing it.

I liked the theory above about having Todd's prison connections take out the 9!

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The cold open is Walter barreling through the desert in the RV, Jesse passed out in the front seat with the gas-mask on, 8-Ball and his cousin out cold in the back. He hears sirens coming, pulls over and makes a confession. Turns out to be just fire trucks who whiz by him.

And then after the opening credits, Walt Jr. eats breakfast.
You know what would be awesome, if the next episode features Flynn eating breakfast with Meera and Jojen Reed.
My mind is blown.
:lmao:

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I seriously can't imagine someone getting into this show and thinking that the main character is going to be some sort of moral paradigm. He sells meth, which ruins people's lives. You know this going in. Tony Soprano was a mobster, who also ostensibly ruined people's lives. Both characters, despite some redeeming or human qualities, are engaged in immoral acts. People are strange with television. The whole disdain for Skylar is the other side of this coin that I just don't understand. I find both Skylar and Walt's characters fascinating, but I don't "like" Walt.

Even among professional critics, this perception that Breaking Bad is about how a "good" man becomes "bad" strikes me as just completely, utterly wrong. Walt is offered a deus ex machina out from the meth game in the fourth episode of season one. He turns it down. Because of pride. Because of self-disgust at his own mediocrity. Because of whatever. And that's after his dalliance in the meth game has already led him to kill a man. Something was rotten in Walt from the start of the series. And I'd argue that the series would never work otherwise. People like Walt because they see most of his thought processes and because he's played by an actor giving a great performance that is both pathetic and charismatic at the same time. Similarly, it amazes me that some critics are just suggesting that Hank's narrative is supposed to be a parallel "shadow hero" narrative to contrast with Walt. Maybe I'm biased by watching the entire series at once, but that seemed self-evident at least by Season 2. Hank has consistently been shown to be the better man behind the crass exterior. From the beginning.

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I seriously can't imagine someone getting into this show and thinking that the main character is going to be some sort of moral paradigm. He sells meth, which ruins people's lives. You know this going in. Tony Soprano was a mobster, who also ostensibly ruined people's lives. Both characters, despite some redeeming or human qualities, are engaged in immoral acts. People are strange with television. The whole disdain for Skylar is the other side of this coin that I just don't understand. I find both Skylar and Walt's characters fascinating, but I don't "like" Walt.

Even among professional critics, this perception that Breaking Bad is about how a "good" man becomes "bad" strikes me as just completely, utterly wrong. Walt is offered a deus ex machina out from the meth game in the fourth episode of season one. He turns it down. Because of pride. Because of self-disgust at his own mediocrity. Because of whatever. And that's after his dalliance in the meth game has already led him to kill a man. Something was rotten in Walt from the start of the series. And I'd argue that the series would never work otherwise. People like Walt because they see most of his thought processes and because he's played by an actor giving a great performance that is both pathetic and charismatic at the same time. Similarly, it amazes me that some critics are just suggesting that Hank's narrative is supposed to be a parallel "shadow hero" narrative to contrast with Walt. Maybe I'm biased by watching the entire series at once, but that seemed self-evident at least by Season 2. Hank has consistently been shown to be the better man behind the crass exterior. From the beginning.
:( Jesus Christ nobody ever escapes.

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Now that the legacy payments have stopped since Mike is gone and was supposed to cover the payments, what is Walt's next move?

I think that he will go to Lydia, threatening to off her if she does not give up the list of names. Once he has the names, I think he has Todd reach out to his prison connections to take care of the people on this list. Maybe in exchange for teaching Todd his formula.

Lydia is just about as bat#### crazy as Walt, so this could really go in any direction.

Did you already see the sneak peek of this weeks episode?
I have not, this is the only show where I try not to watch the previews. Just my gut feeling after how the last episode ended and what Walt said to Mike right before he died. Edited by jdelsas

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I seriously can't imagine someone getting into this show and thinking that the main character is going to be some sort of moral paradigm. He sells meth, which ruins people's lives. You know this going in. Tony Soprano was a mobster, who also ostensibly ruined people's lives. Both characters, despite some redeeming or human qualities, are engaged in immoral acts. People are strange with television. The whole disdain for Skylar is the other side of this coin that I just don't understand. I find both Skylar and Walt's characters fascinating, but I don't "like" Walt.

Even among professional critics, this perception that Breaking Bad is about how a "good" man becomes "bad" strikes me as just completely, utterly wrong. Walt is offered a deus ex machina out from the meth game in the fourth episode of season one. He turns it down. Because of pride. Because of self-disgust at his own mediocrity. Because of whatever. And that's after his dalliance in the meth game has already led him to kill a man. Something was rotten in Walt from the start of the series. And I'd argue that the series would never work otherwise. People like Walt because they see most of his thought processes and because he's played by an actor giving a great performance that is both pathetic and charismatic at the same time. Similarly, it amazes me that some critics are just suggesting that Hank's narrative is supposed to be a parallel "shadow hero" narrative to contrast with Walt. Maybe I'm biased by watching the entire series at once, but that seemed self-evident at least by Season 2. Hank has consistently been shown to be the better man behind the crass exterior. From the beginning.
I don't know that Walt was "rotten" but he wasn't fully there. He played along nicely has the homely school teacher who lived a lower middle-class life, with a #####y wife and a kid with a disability. His son and family looked up to the hero DEA guy. Even Walt "seemed" to look up to him, or at least acted like he was supposed to -- which was why he was on the ride-along in the first place. But cancer woke him up. He was told he had a few years to live if the chemo went right (remember only one year has passed since the show even began). Walt then is forced to go to that party, which brings back all the memories of the one decision in his life that would have made a huge impact. That crossroads has haunted him for 20+ years, and now they want to give him charity? #### that he says, if he is going out, he is going out on his terms. He wants to leave a mark on the world. It started that he wanted to prove to his family that he could provide. That they should be in awe of him. It morphed further and deeper the more Walt "became" Heisenberg. Now Walt doesn't just want to provide for his family. He wants to achieve a greatness because he discovered something that he could do that nobody else can touch. Walt was empty, and now he is trying to be fulfilled. Is it a twisted and morally corrupt avenue? Yes. Has he done more harm to those around him than good? Yes. Is anybody better off today than they were when this show met him? No. But Walt isn't living for them now. Walt is still dying and he wants a memorable legacy, regardless of what kind.

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Just speculating here - but what if Todd was working for Lydia all along? So as Walt gets closer to Todd he is actually sealing his own fate....

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Poor Mike's granddaughter, will never know how close she came to not having to work the pole.

I'm not convinced the DEA has that money. The box was so full, he couldn't put another dollar in it. That means the lawyer would not have a need to open it the day the DEA was there.
I wasn't paying close attention, but maybe he was withdrawing in order to make legacy payments?
Good point. I was assuming the legacy payments were coming from money outside the bank, but maybe not.
Then it doesn't make any sense for him to put that paper on the top of the cash that said to XXXX happy 18th birthday. If the lawyer was making withdrawals from that SD box, he would have to take that paper out, move it to the side, take money out, then put the paper back on top every time a legacy payment was made. Much easier to just put the happy birthday wish in when the last legacy withdrawal was made. I believe the inclusion of the note indicated the box would not be opened again until the granddaughter did on her 18th birthday.
Plus the first time we saw Shamu opening all the boxes, he told her that he wanted into 603 also, as if it wasn't part of the usual ritual. Whether or not the Feds got it, I dunno, but that money was definitely set aside for the girl and was not the source of the legacy payments. He brought that in with him bot times.

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Have not read through the posts about last night's episode yet. Looking forward to that. I thought that was easily the best episode during the show's entire run. It was also the first time I disliked Walt. I guess Gilligan is going to try and force us to dislike him the rest of the series. I don't want to though.

You didn't dislike Walt when he was willing to poison an innocent child?
Or walked away from a choking girl because she was making Jesse get sloppy and greedy?

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The look on Walt's face as he watched Jesse and Mike shake hands. What was that? Uneasiness at how close they are?

And do you think that's when he really knew Mike had to go?

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Just started again if one of you forgot to record it.

I still don't quite get why the lawyer would be arrested in the vault.He's just counting out money, as far as anyone knows.

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