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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

Disagree completely.

I disagree with your disagreement.

Agree

No wait. I disagree.

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

Disagree completely.

I disagree with your disagreement.

Agree

No wait. I disagree.

With Slapdash.

Agreed.

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Unless the last 7 are completely horrible, BB clearly overtakes The Wire as the best all-time.

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Unless the last 7 are completely horrible, BB clearly overtakes The Wire as the best all-time.

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

I feel bad for people that aren't watching live now because they will almost inevitably hear some spoilers for the series ending, no matter how hard they try to avoid it until the show comes out on DVD or Netflix. Between Facebook, Twitter, random news websites, and water cooler discussions, there is no way to avoid getting spoiled with a show that is this widely watched, this epic, and this discussion-worthy.

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Unless the last 7 are completely horrible, BB clearly overtakes The Wire as the best all-time.

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No. I'm just starting season 4 of the wire (my 3rd go-round with the series) and BB is simply better.

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I'm a huuuuuuuuuuge Wire fan. Like it as much if not more than The Sopranos.

But BB is the best show I've ever seen.

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I'm a huuuuuuuuuuge Wire fan. Like it as much if not more than The Sopranos.

But BB is the best show I've ever seen.

:goodposting:

Wire is solidly entrenched as #2 IMO.

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

i didnt watch BB until i ordered netflix this february. I always wanted to see it cuz i heard how good it was and have been blown away. Its even better than i imagined. Best show on tv hands down past or present imo

My friends were talking about the best TV shows of all-time a couple weekends ago. A few people who chimed in admitted that they hadn't seen Breaking Bad. As far as I'm concerned, you're not allowed to have an opinion about the best TV show ever if you've never seen Breaking Bad.

That includes an awful lot of people.

BB had it's best night ever last night. It finally got a similar number of viewers as the show where they talk about what just happened on "The Walking Dead".

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

Disagree completely.

Bill Simmons and Chuck Klosterman had this discussion on the BS podcast. An argument was made that the creators of the show are forced into an unnatural once-per week pace. When you have access to all of the shows and watching them in a shorter timeframe it's easier to remember to link storylines together. I imagine that someone who has only been watching live for the last 5 years needs a refresher to catch everything they see now, unless they have an amazing memory.

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

i didnt watch BB until i ordered netflix this february. I always wanted to see it cuz i heard how good it was and have been blown away. Its even better than i imagined. Best show on tv hands down past or present imo

My friends were talking about the best TV shows of all-time a couple weekends ago. A few people who chimed in admitted that they hadn't seen Breaking Bad. As far as I'm concerned, you're not allowed to have an opinion about the best TV show ever if you've never seen Breaking Bad.

That includes an awful lot of people.

BB had it's best night ever last night. It finally got a similar number of viewers as the show where they talk about what just happened on "The Walking Dead".

I think the bigger thing here is that it blew away expectations in the first episdoe of the last half season.

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

i didnt watch BB until i ordered netflix this february. I always wanted to see it cuz i heard how good it was and have been blown away. Its even better than i imagined. Best show on tv hands down past or present imo
My friends were talking about the best TV shows of all-time a couple weekends ago. A few people who chimed in admitted that they hadn't seen Breaking Bad. As far as I'm concerned, you're not allowed to have an opinion about the best TV show ever if you've never seen Breaking Bad.
Very valid point. Would someone chime in about the best basketball player of the 90's without ever having seen Jordan play. That's who Breaking Bad is.

This is FBG. Someone will chime in who's never seen an NBA game.

I don't think I've seen one from start to finish.

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

i didnt watch BB until i ordered netflix this february. I always wanted to see it cuz i heard how good it was and have been blown away. Its even better than i imagined. Best show on tv hands down past or present imo
My friends were talking about the best TV shows of all-time a couple weekends ago. A few people who chimed in admitted that they hadn't seen Breaking Bad. As far as I'm concerned, you're not allowed to have an opinion about the best TV show ever if you've never seen Breaking Bad.
Very valid point. Would someone chime in about the best basketball player of the 90's without ever having seen Jordan play. That's who Breaking Bad is.

This is FBG. Someone will chime in who's never seen an NBA game.

I don't think I've seen one from start to finish.

Congratulations?

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

i didnt watch BB until i ordered netflix this february. I always wanted to see it cuz i heard how good it was and have been blown away. Its even better than i imagined. Best show on tv hands down past or present imo
My friends were talking about the best TV shows of all-time a couple weekends ago. A few people who chimed in admitted that they hadn't seen Breaking Bad. As far as I'm concerned, you're not allowed to have an opinion about the best TV show ever if you've never seen Breaking Bad.
Very valid point. Would someone chime in about the best basketball player of the 90's without ever having seen Jordan play. That's who Breaking Bad is.

This is FBG. Someone will chime in who's never seen an NBA game.

I don't think I've seen one from start to finish.

Congratulations?

Not really

Just chiming in

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

i didnt watch BB until i ordered netflix this february. I always wanted to see it cuz i heard how good it was and have been blown away. Its even better than i imagined. Best show on tv hands down past or present imo

My friends were talking about the best TV shows of all-time a couple weekends ago. A few people who chimed in admitted that they hadn't seen Breaking Bad. As far as I'm concerned, you're not allowed to have an opinion about the best TV show ever if you've never seen Breaking Bad.

That includes an awful lot of people.

BB had it's best night ever last night. It finally got a similar number of viewers as the show where they talk about what just happened on "The Walking Dead".

I think the bigger thing here is that it blew away expectations in the first episdoe of the last half season.

Oh, I know. Just pointing out it's still a relatively small number of people watching the show.

Though, I do agree that you can't call anything the greatest show ever if you haven't seen BB. Well, not totally, if forced to choose, I'd still take The Wire.

It wasn't that long ago that BB finally got past The Shield for #2 in book. Somehow, the The Shield seems get vastly underrated in all these talks.

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

i didnt watch BB until i ordered netflix this february. I always wanted to see it cuz i heard how good it was and have been blown away. Its even better than i imagined. Best show on tv hands down past or present imo
My friends were talking about the best TV shows of all-time a couple weekends ago. A few people who chimed in admitted that they hadn't seen Breaking Bad. As far as I'm concerned, you're not allowed to have an opinion about the best TV show ever if you've never seen Breaking Bad.

That includes an awful lot of people.

BB had it's best night ever last night. It finally got a similar number of viewers as the show where they talk about what just happened on "The Walking Dead".

I think the bigger thing here is that it blew away expectations in the first episdoe of the last half season.

Oh, I know. Just pointing out it's still a relatively small number of people watching the show.

Though, I do agree that you can't call anything the greatest show ever if you haven't seen BB. Well, not totally, if forced to choose, I'd still take The Wire.

It wasn't that long ago that BB finally got past The Shield for #2 in book. Somehow, the The Shield seems get vastly underrated in all these talks.

Entrenched at #3 for me. :thumbup:

Watching it right now as a matter of fact. Free on Amazon Prime.

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Is this the best show in TV history? I'm a major sopranos, mad men and wire fan and I think BB has them beat.

Last night's episode was better than being a teenager and discovering porno.

Wire, thrones, breaking bad. Top 3. Has sopranos in rear view and gaining distance when comparing final seasons I predict. Mad men is close.

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on.

You are weird. Why the #### would you care?

I don't really spend a lot of time feeling bad for people I don't know. I was just trying to say I think many shows including this one are substantially better when you have to wait. Some shows are intolerable if you ram through them. I saw an episode of "lie to me" on cable once and thought it was decent. Fired it up on Netflix and it was awful because every show was basically the same thing over and over. Even law and order suffers through too much "sameness" from one episode to the next if you watch them all in a row.

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on.

You are weird. Why the #### would you care?

I don't really spend a lot of time feeling bad for people I don't know. I was just trying to say I think many shows including this one are substantially better when you have to wait. Some shows are intolerable if you ram through them. I saw an episode of "lie to me" on cable once and thought it was decent. Fired it up on Netflix and it was awful because every show was basically the same thing over and over. Even law and order suffers through too much "sameness" from one episode to the next if you watch them all in a row.

You are weird. Why the #### would you care?

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on.

You are weird. Why the #### would you care?
I don't really spend a lot of time feeling bad for people I don't know. I was just trying to say I think many shows including this one are substantially better when you have to wait. Some shows are intolerable if you ram through them. I saw an episode of "lie to me" on cable once and thought it was decent. Fired it up on Netflix and it was awful because every show was basically the same thing over and over. Even law and order suffers through too much "sameness" from one episode to the next if you watch them all in a row.
Breaking bad doesn't suffer from that though. Edited by Leeroy Jenkins

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

i didnt watch BB until i ordered netflix this february. I always wanted to see it cuz i heard how good it was and have been blown away. Its even better than i imagined. Best show on tv hands down past or present imo
My friends were talking about the best TV shows of all-time a couple weekends ago. A few people who chimed in admitted that they hadn't seen Breaking Bad. As far as I'm concerned, you're not allowed to have an opinion about the best TV show ever if you've never seen Breaking Bad.

That includes an awful lot of people.

BB had it's best night ever last night. It finally got a similar number of viewers as the show where they talk about what just happened on "The Walking Dead".

I think the bigger thing here is that it blew away expectations in the first episdoe of the last half season.

Oh, I know. Just pointing out it's still a relatively small number of people watching the show.

Though, I do agree that you can't call anything the greatest show ever if you haven't seen BB. Well, not totally, if forced to choose, I'd still take The Wire.

It wasn't that long ago that BB finally got past The Shield for #2 in book. Somehow, the The Shield seems get vastly underrated in all these talks.

Entrenched at #3 for me. :thumbup:

Watching it right now as a matter of fact. Free on Amazon Prime.

Just finished The Shield last week. To me it is second tier by a hair. It is addicting, entertaining and fascinating, but it falls short in a few areas - The writing/characters aren't as tight as BrBa or the Wire, the hyper-reality of the show, and sometimes formulaic way the strike team got intel.

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Very good opening but not great for me. This is the THIRD time we have seen supersad, mopey Jesse and it just drags for me by this point. Although a great point about him figuring out Mike is dead and Walt just stone faced lied to him. I actually liked Skylar for once and loved Hank closing the garage door. But Walt was foolish to threaten Hank IMO, don't back someone like that into a corner or they'll lash out at you.

My guess for how it ends up, someone had a good point about Jesse wanting to do things "his way" and the cycle continuing, maybe he will take over the cook working with Lydia and they will be the ones that out Heisenberg and force Walt into running. I also agree with those who previously posted that someone from Walts family has to die (Skylar IMO, dark horse would be Walter Jr OD'ing.) Otherwise it will just feel like the writers cheated

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on.

You are weird. Why the #### would you care?
I don't really spend a lot of time feeling bad for people I don't know. I was just trying to say I think many shows including this one are substantially better when you have to wait. Some shows are intolerable if you ram through them. I saw an episode of "lie to me" on cable once and thought it was decent. Fired it up on Netflix and it was awful because every show was basically the same thing over and over. Even law and order suffers through too much "sameness" from one episode to the next if you watch them all in a row.
Breaking bad doesn't suffer from that though.

Agreed. In fact I enjoyed it more when I was plowing through episodes on Netflix. You keep the tension and energy from one episode to the next.

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I actually feel bad for people who don't watch great shows when they are on. There is a certain pace that comes with waiting a week between episodes and the pace usually works to the show's advantage. Part of the fun in bb is the anticipation of what #### is how going to happen next.

i didnt watch BB until i ordered netflix this february. I always wanted to see it cuz i heard how good it was and have been blown away. Its even better than i imagined. Best show on tv hands down past or present imo
My friends were talking about the best TV shows of all-time a couple weekends ago. A few people who chimed in admitted that they hadn't seen Breaking Bad. As far as I'm concerned, you're not allowed to have an opinion about the best TV show ever if you've never seen Breaking Bad.

That includes an awful lot of people.

BB had it's best night ever last night. It finally got a similar number of viewers as the show where they talk about what just happened on "The Walking Dead".

I think the bigger thing here is that it blew away expectations in the first episdoe of the last half season.

Oh, I know. Just pointing out it's still a relatively small number of people watching the show.

Though, I do agree that you can't call anything the greatest show ever if you haven't seen BB. Well, not totally, if forced to choose, I'd still take The Wire.

It wasn't that long ago that BB finally got past The Shield for #2 in book. Somehow, the The Shield seems get vastly underrated in all these talks.

Entrenched at #3 for me. :thumbup:

Watching it right now as a matter of fact. Free on Amazon Prime.

Just finished The Shield last week. To me it is second tier by a hair. It is addicting, entertaining and fascinating, but it falls short in a few areas - The writing/characters aren't as tight as BrBa or the Wire, the hyper-reality of the show, and sometimes formulaic way the strike team got intel.

Valid points.

I don't think it's quite in the same league of The Wire and BB either, but for me, that still leaves it in 3rd place (rather comfortably, I might add, though that wouldn't be true if Deadwood had finished).

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Man Men is made for women viewers, why do you guys watch that emo crap?

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Clear something up for me. I've watched a million BB episodes over the past week and one of them just blurs into the next.

In the penultimate episode of 5a ("Say My Name"), Walt, Mike and Jesse meet greaseball Declan in the desert, and Walt convinces him to partner up, explaining that the methylene is more valuable in his hands. They agree that Declan will take over distribution in exchange for 35% and a $5 million dollar finder's fee for Mike.

Fast forward to the final episode of 5a. Walt sees the mammoth stack of cash. Skyler makes him realize that it's more money than they could ever spend. Finally, he says to her ..."I'm out." So what ever became of the plan to partner up with Declan? Do we assume he just sold him the remainder of the methylene? Maybe I missed it.

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I find it odd how many of you are annoyed that Jesse is moping and sad. He's racked with guilt right now from the murder of a kid, to the murder of a dozen guys all at the hand of his former partner. When drug addicts are racked with guilt, this is what they do.

I think the throwing of money is the turning point of the show, however. He is actively rejecting everything he's worked for in the first five seasons. I think they've hinted to the "good" in Jesse for years. He's kind of the "redeemable bad guy" that stands in stark contrast to the "good guy that goes bad". While we were all expecting an entire season of Hank vs Walt, it's Jesse vs Walt that will bring the show home, imo.

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Man Men is made for women viewers, why do you guys watch that emo crap?

What are you babbling about?

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Man Men is made for women viewers, why do you guys watch that emo crap?

What are you babbling about?

I happen to like both Breaking Bad and Mad Men. How in the hell is Mad Men emo crap?

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Clear something up for me. I've watched a million BB episodes over the past week and one of them just blurs into the next.

In the penultimate episode of 5a ("Say My Name"), Walt, Mike and Jesse meet greaseball Declan in the desert, and Walt convinces him to partner up, explaining that the methylene is more valuable in his hands. They agree that Declan will take over distribution in exchange for 35% and a $5 million dollar finder's fee for Mike.

Fast forward to the final episode of 5a. Walt sees the mammoth stack of cash. Skyler makes him realize that it's more money than they could ever spend. Finally, he says to her ..."I'm out." So what ever became of the plan to partner up with Declan? Do we assume he just sold him the remainder of the methylene? Maybe I missed it.

Maybe I missed it, but I really don't think they addressed it again.

They made the deal with Declan, Walt starts cooking with Landry, the lawyer and the 9 guys get busted, Mike goes on the run, Walt kills him, Walt gets the names from Lydia and makes the deal with her.

They didn't get anymore methylamine, so we have to assume Walt started making the Czech meth with the train methylamine.

It would seem that Walt made one batch for Declan then told him to piss off, in which case Declan's a real soft gangster or just incredibly scared of Heisenberg (still makes him soft).

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Man Men is made for women viewers, why do you guys watch that emo crap?

Fishing with some pretty stinky bait here.

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Clear something up for me. I've watched a million BB episodes over the past week and one of them just blurs into the next.

In the penultimate episode of 5a ("Say My Name"), Walt, Mike and Jesse meet greaseball Declan in the desert, and Walt convinces him to partner up, explaining that the methylene is more valuable in his hands. They agree that Declan will take over distribution in exchange for 35% and a $5 million dollar finder's fee for Mike.

Fast forward to the final episode of 5a. Walt sees the mammoth stack of cash. Skyler makes him realize that it's more money than they could ever spend. Finally, he says to her ..."I'm out." So what ever became of the plan to partner up with Declan? Do we assume he just sold him the remainder of the methylene? Maybe I missed it.

My assumption is that Declan is Lydia's replacement for Walt. The % on the stuff Declan makes and Lydia's complaints about the purity of the meth she's getting match up.

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Clear something up for me. I've watched a million BB episodes over the past week and one of them just blurs into the next.

In the penultimate episode of 5a ("Say My Name"), Walt, Mike and Jesse meet greaseball Declan in the desert, and Walt convinces him to partner up, explaining that the methylene is more valuable in his hands. They agree that Declan will take over distribution in exchange for 35% and a $5 million dollar finder's fee for Mike.

Fast forward to the final episode of 5a. Walt sees the mammoth stack of cash. Skyler makes him realize that it's more money than they could ever spend. Finally, he says to her ..."I'm out." So what ever became of the plan to partner up with Declan? Do we assume he just sold him the remainder of the methylene? Maybe I missed it.

I think this may come back up. I think he probably continued to give him product, but he was also using the methylene to make stacks of cash in the Czech. At some point Declan is going to do the math and say, wait...what happened to the rest of the methylene.

Another possibility is that the cooks Declan had are now cooking it for Lydia, and that is why it's down at 68%. The 70% purity figured was thrown around during that confrontation, with Walt even saying they have to dye theirs blue to make it look like his product. Maybe Walt ended up giving the rest of the methylene to Declan and his cooks, along with Todd as a "trainer", after all and that was how he got out.

Either way, I have to figure they play a part in the final seven episodes in one way or another.

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Clear something up for me. I've watched a million BB episodes over the past week and one of them just blurs into the next.

In the penultimate episode of 5a ("Say My Name"), Walt, Mike and Jesse meet greaseball Declan in the desert, and Walt convinces him to partner up, explaining that the methylene is more valuable in his hands. They agree that Declan will take over distribution in exchange for 35% and a $5 million dollar finder's fee for Mike.

Fast forward to the final episode of 5a. Walt sees the mammoth stack of cash. Skyler makes him realize that it's more money than they could ever spend. Finally, he says to her ..."I'm out." So what ever became of the plan to partner up with Declan? Do we assume he just sold him the remainder of the methylene? Maybe I missed it.

I think the assumption is that Todd took over making Walt's recipe, but he obviously ain't doing it right (hence, Lydia coming to see Walt), and I think that is why it won't be so easy for him to just quit. We haven't heard or seen the last of that.

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Clear something up for me. I've watched a million BB episodes over the past week and one of them just blurs into the next.

In the penultimate episode of 5a ("Say My Name"), Walt, Mike and Jesse meet greaseball Declan in the desert, and Walt convinces him to partner up, explaining that the methylene is more valuable in his hands. They agree that Declan will take over distribution in exchange for 35% and a $5 million dollar finder's fee for Mike.

Fast forward to the final episode of 5a. Walt sees the mammoth stack of cash. Skyler makes him realize that it's more money than they could ever spend. Finally, he says to her ..."I'm out." So what ever became of the plan to partner up with Declan? Do we assume he just sold him the remainder of the methylene? Maybe I missed it.

Maybe I missed it, but I really don't think they addressed it again.

They made the deal with Declan, Walt starts cooking with Landry, the lawyer and the 9 guys get busted, Mike goes on the run, Walt kills him, Walt gets the names from Lydia and makes the deal with her.

They didn't get anymore methylamine, so we have to assume Walt started making the Czech meth with the train methylamine.

It would seem that Walt made one batch for Declan then told him to piss off, in which case Declan's a real soft gangster or just incredibly scared of Heisenberg (still makes him soft).

During the scenes where they seem to be making money hand over fist there are numerous scenes where the meth is exchanged in the dessert for money, and numerous orher scenes where the meth is put into drums to be shipped over sees. I understood this to mean Walt was making money from both Declan and Lydia.

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Unless the last 7 are completely horrible, BB clearly overtakes The Wire as the best all-time.

Not possible

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Yeah, that huge batch of methylamine supplying both Czech and Arizona with some combo of Landry and Declan's cook making it makes sense.

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Regardless of who Walt is running from in the flash-forwards, what do we assume has become of Skyler, Flynn and Holly?

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They are living with Hank.

Not sure if Marie is still alive, but Hank's banging Skyler either way. I bet she even lets him do it when she's got the green plaster on her face too.

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They are living with Hank.

Not sure if Marie is still alive, but Hank's banging Skyler either way. I bet she even lets him do it when she's got the green plaster on her face too.

Jokes aside, if Hank pieces everything else together, he'll also realize Skyler is complicit.

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They are living with Hank.

Not sure if Marie is still alive, but Hank's banging Skyler either way. I bet she even lets him do it when she's got the green plaster on her face too.

Jokes aside, if Hank pieces everything else together, he'll also realize Skyler is complicit.

I think that'll be pretty devastating for him (and I think he'll figure it out this Sunday).

But I think he'll get over it, as Skyler will do what Walt wouldn't (have some humility, explain it, and beg for mercy).

And that is my guess as to what becomes of Skyler and the kids (minus the banging part). Separating Walt from the family will become a huge part of Hank's focus, I think.

For whatever reason Walt leaves, I think he's coming back for his family.

Not that I'd be confident in any guess.

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They are living with Hank.

Not sure if Marie is still alive, but Hank's banging Skyler either way. I bet she even lets him do it when she's got the green plaster on her face too.

Jokes aside, if Hank pieces everything else together, he'll also realize Skyler is complicit.

Yep. The bogus gambling story and them owning the car wash with Skylar running it will make it more than obvious.

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