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i see this thread routinely bumped....what the hell are you guys talking about? I guess I could read the previous posts but that sounds like a lotta work.

I'm in the camp that says the finale kind of sucked. For such an epic series, the finale didn't even come close to something like The Wire or SFU.

The Finale of The Wire was good? I thought Season 5 of the Wire as a whole was teh suck and pales in comparison to Season 5 of Breaking Bad.

That said, the rest of the Wire was as good if not better than the rest of BB, IMO.

I think the Wire lost its way after it left the Streets and Docks. I even liked the mayoral - city hall season, it gave some interesting prospective but the newspaper/media segment seemed weak by comparison.

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Armchair QB here.....How I would have done the last 2 episodes:

2nd to last episode

-Feature Walt reading the newspapers and creating the blueprints for the finale revenge.

-Go to the bar, call for a cab, then Walt Jr. at school, same convo, cancel all the plans in his head, call cops, etc.

-End episode thinking Walt has given up

Last episode

-Open with the scene of Walt watching Charlie Rose and him setting plans into motion again

-Cab is there, so he's out in front of police by a decent amount

-Everything else happens the same

Would eliminate alot of the "unrealistic" stuff on him getting form NH to NM :shrug:

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Ending the 2nd to last episode with us thinking Walt had given up wouldn't have had an impact since the two flash forwards told us that he was coming back to ABQ.

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I have avoided this thread for the past week and a half, figuring it would be :deadhorse:

But, it looks like "Better call Saul" will have Cranston and Paul cameos

I'm not sure how they'll work WW into the story....

Maybe we'll see Mike, Fring and Victor too...

Walt in the background coughing and wiping down a car while Saul is getting his car washed.

"Have an A-1 day"

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Call a cab to take him 3000 miles? :confused:

He's got 10 mil in an oil drum, he can swing it.

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Damn this show....it has made everything else seem so meh in comparison.

Yep. I watched the whole thing in a couple of months this year. Then I decided to DVR the Walking Dead. Could not get through the first ep. Deleted the series.

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Ending the 2nd to last episode with us thinking Walt had given up wouldn't have had an impact since the two flash forwards told us that he was coming back to ABQ.

True, but at least we get the drama all week of "what sets him off"

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Call a cab to take him 3000 miles? :confused:

Cab just to get him out of down, then he could hotwire/steal a call.

Sorry, forgot to fill in that detail

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I have avoided this thread for the past week and a half, figuring it would be :deadhorse:

But, it looks like "Better call Saul" will have Cranston and Paul cameos

I'm not sure how they'll work WW into the story....

Maybe we'll see Mike, Fring and Victor too...

I'd be fine with the show ending with Walt and Jesse walking in to his office.

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Any chance you have a link directly to pic? Twitter wants me to login to see but won't accept my credentials...

not sure if you can see it, but here: http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUR3VNrIUAAE5xn.jpg

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i see this thread routinely bumped....what the hell are you guys talking about? I guess I could read the previous posts but that sounds like a lotta work.

I'm in the camp that says the finale kind of sucked. For such an epic series, the finale didn't even come close to something like The Wire or SFU.

The Finale of The Wire was good? I thought Season 5 of the Wire as a whole was teh suck and pales in comparison to Season 5 of Breaking Bad.

That said, the rest of the Wire was as good if not better than the rest of BB, IMO.

I thought the finale of the Wire was great. Honestly, outside of a couple episodes in season 5 of BB I thought it was the worst season by far :shrug:

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i see this thread routinely bumped....what the hell are you guys talking about? I guess I could read the previous posts but that sounds like a lotta work.

I'm in the camp that says the finale kind of sucked. For such an epic series, the finale didn't even come close to something like The Wire or SFU.

The Finale of The Wire was good? I thought Season 5 of the Wire as a whole was teh suck and pales in comparison to Season 5 of Breaking Bad.

That said, the rest of the Wire was as good if not better than the rest of BB, IMO.

I thought the finale of the Wire was great. Honestly, outside of a couple episodes in season 5 of BB I thought it was the worst season by far :shrug:

And you are incorrect.

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Won't read this thread for fear of spoilers. Late band waggoner. Just started in the last two weeks and am half way through Season 3. Big fan.

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Won't read this thread for fear of spoilers. Late band waggoner. Just started in the last two weeks and am half way through Season 3. Big fan.

You aren't even to the good part yet.

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Won't read this thread for fear of spoilers. Late band waggoner. Just started in the last two weeks and am half way through Season 3. Big fan.

You aren't even to the good part yet.

He's almost to the one word where the whole series hits the tipping point: RUN.

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Just watched the whole thing in three weeks. Best show I've ever seen, no question. I was amazed at how the quality started high and stayed high. Most shows seem to have a 'feeling out' phase before they get good, but not this one.

I'm sure every opinion has been beaten to death but I'll give mine anyway. The show was extremely heavy on foreshadowing, so I don't understand why people have questioned the ending. Of course the machine gun and ricin were going to come into play - just like Salamanca's bell and dozens of other plot devices they hammered over and over. By the 3rd season I was having a lot of fun trying to predict how the foreshadowing was going to come into play. Sometimes I was right, sometimes they got me. Helluva three-week ride :cool:

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Won't read this thread for fear of spoilers. Late band waggoner. Just started in the last two weeks and am half way through Season 3. Big fan.

You aren't even to the good part yet.
He's almost to the one word where the whole series hits the tipping point: RUN.

Yup. I think there are a few spots where it ratchets up significantly.

- when crazy 8 gets his it becomes apparent that the show isn't a buddy comedy action thing.

- tuco in the junkyard introduces that some bad people and bad things are coming.

- Jane dying confirms that the protagonist is no hero at all but rather a deeply selfish person.

- one minute which was so tense that it caused my wife to stop watching until just recently.

- run - which was the moment Walter took the full measures speech to heart and went from a player in the drug game to a calculating, empire making person.

I don't feel like it slowed down for a moment after that.

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Just watched the whole thing in three weeks. Best show I've ever seen, no question. I was amazed at how the quality started high and stayed high. Most shows seem to have a 'feeling out' phase before they get good, but not this one.

I'm sure every opinion has been beaten to death but I'll give mine anyway. The show was extremely heavy on foreshadowing, so I don't understand why people have questioned the ending. Of course the machine gun and ricin were going to come into play - just like Salamanca's bell and dozens of other plot devices they hammered over and over. By the 3rd season I was having a lot of fun trying to predict how the foreshadowing was going to come into play. Sometimes I was right, sometimes they got me. Helluva three-week ride :cool:

:goodposting:

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Just watched the whole thing in three weeks. Best show I've ever seen, no question. I was amazed at how the quality started high and stayed high. Most shows seem to have a 'feeling out' phase before they get good, but not this one.

I'm sure every opinion has been beaten to death but I'll give mine anyway. The show was extremely heavy on foreshadowing, so I don't understand why people have questioned the ending. Of course the machine gun and ricin were going to come into play - just like Salamanca's bell and dozens of other plot devices they hammered over and over. By the 3rd season I was having a lot of fun trying to predict how the foreshadowing was going to come into play. Sometimes I was right, sometimes they got me. Helluva three-week ride :cool:

This show was quality from start to end. Not a dull moment :thumbup:

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How do we know Walt is dead?

This is a good point - however the police weren't overly covering him like a live / still potentially dangerous suspect (although they should have been) - but either way that's a clue that they felt he wasn't a threat.

After all the goodbyes Walt said or made, and the final camera pan away from him, I'm pretty confident he's gone.

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I intentionally avoided this thread until I was finished with the series to avoid all spoilers (I was watching it on Netflix, so a multi-month delay for each season), so I haven't yet read a lot of the first 10,000 pages worth of discussion. I do look forward to slowly working my way through it though.

One thing I just read today on Reddit that was probably discussed here previously, but which I hadn't realized yet, was the symbolic link between the burned one-eyed teddy bear from the plane crash, and Gus's ultimate fate.

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How do we know Walt is dead?

This is a good point - however the police weren't overly covering him like a live / still potentially dangerous suspect (although they should have been) - but either way that's a clue that they felt he wasn't a threat.

After all the goodbyes Walt said or made, and the final camera pan away from him, I'm pretty confident he's gone.

That, and Vince Gilligan has said he is dead.

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How do we know Walt is dead?

This is a good point - however the police weren't overly covering him like a live / still potentially dangerous suspect (although they should have been) - but either way that's a clue that they felt he wasn't a threat.

After all the goodbyes Walt said or made, and the final camera pan away from him, I'm pretty confident he's gone.

That, and Vince Gilligan has said he is dead.

Vince could be in on the cover up.

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Netflix has a row labeled "More like Breaking Bad" which includes things like The Walking Dead and Sons of Anarchy. Which makes Netflix's recommendation engine look really good, until you look to the right and see that "More like Breaking Bad" also includes How I Met Your Mother, Super Troopers, Bob's Burgers and Zack & Miri Make a Porno.

I'm also trying to figure out how the movie White Chicks can be classified under "More like The Hunger Games", too.

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15 minutes until Flynn eats breakfast!

:river in Egypt:

:cry:

:tips40forbreakfast:

"Guuuuuuuuuuus! Like, what are supposed to do now?"

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I can't believe they didn't show the part where Walt wakes up and realizes this was all a dream. :bs:

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Highly unusual script format. Very surprising to see. I wonder if they were all like that, that's very interesting. I mean, detailing specific camera angles, moves, cranes, etc., is considered offensive in the industry. Even in TV. In a show that was this stylistic, though, I wonder how often it occurred and if there was some kind of understanding between Vince and the directors to smooth it over.

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Highly unusual script format. Very surprising to see. I wonder if they were all like that, that's very interesting. I mean, detailing specific camera angles, moves, cranes, etc., is considered offensive in the industry. Even in TV. In a show that was this stylistic, though, I wonder how often it occurred and if there was some kind of understanding between Vince and the directors to smooth it over.

I was thinking that myself, but you see similar things with the Coen Bros. and a few others. I assume that when you have a team that's been together for that long with a specific stylistic vision, you work it out.

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Just watched the whole thing in three weeks. Best show I've ever seen, no question. I was amazed at how the quality started high and stayed high. Most shows seem to have a 'feeling out' phase before they get good, but not this one.

I'm sure every opinion has been beaten to death but I'll give mine anyway. The show was extremely heavy on foreshadowing, so I don't understand why people have questioned the ending. Of course the machine gun and ricin were going to come into play - just like Salamanca's bell and dozens of other plot devices they hammered over and over. By the 3rd season I was having a lot of fun trying to predict how the foreshadowing was going to come into play. Sometimes I was right, sometimes they got me. Helluva three-week ride :cool:

This show was quality from start to end. Not a dull moment :thumbup:

Of all the great shows I've watched it's the only one that didn't have a lull. Every season was terrific. Some episodes weren't as good as others obviously but the overall level of quality was amazing.

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*********Major spoilers here*********

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnCYavlj5Eg&feature=youtu.be (evolution of jesse) - great stuff here.

ETA: and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6eSrcfqEtY&list=UU0ZNCsM4HzgDf2BUMCufYuQ (evolution of walt)

and here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiLP898yZvA&feature=c4-overview&list=UU0ZNCsM4HzgDf2BUMCufYuQ (evolution of mike)

####in A. These are some of the most in depth put together glimpses of these guys you'll see. i need to rewatch this show asap. as soon as i finish six feet under again.

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So, it is customary for someone in the Witness Protection Program or who has been "disappeared" like Walt was, to use their actual birthdate with their new identity? I ask because Walt obviously did, which is why his ID as Mr. Lambert has his real birthdate on it when he showed it to the gal at Denny's on his 52nd.

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Season 5 of The Wire as a whole wasn't as good as the other seasons, but the finale itself was great, IMO.

Yes. But to add to this: saying that season 5 isn't as good as the rest of the seasons is true about practically every season of every series. Almost nothing holds up to the best of The Wire.

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Thinking about the greatness of Breaking Bad has me more convinced that network TV is kind of dead in the water. Modern network television has been eclipsed by cable - and I don't see this changing.

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