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WSL #4: Draft Rap + Roster Discussions (1 Viewer)

6) Abrecher (758)

#06 1.06 Forte, Matt RB-CHI #5

#27 2.11 Colston, Marques WR-NOS #11

#38 3.06 Ocho Cinco, Chad WR-CIN #15

#59 4.11 Daniels, Owen TE-HOU #6

#70 5.06 Johnson, Larry RB-KCC #25

#9091 6.11 Garrard, David QB-JAC #16

#102 7.06 Palmer, Carson QB-CIN #18
Lots of mysteries here.
I hated the Garrard pick but think you made up for with Carson. Nice value and I had his name written down but realized he probably had a good chance to have same bye week as Pittsburgh and switched to Wells.
I think Garrard was a fine pick and I like the QBBC a lot. Carson has the upside with risk, Garrard is a solid QB, but unlikely to put up top stats. Both are good values as the 16/18 QBs. I'm not sure about the 85/Carson combo sue to risk, but if you're willing to take the risk and possible reward... There is no prize for 2nd place, right?
 
9th round and on is what I like. Pretty much all the studs are outta the way and now it's time to search for those diamonds in the rough. Guys nobody's expecting to produce much yet but come outta nowhere and blow up. I'm puttin' together my list of these guys so all you guys should start drafting your kickers now :mellow: That way maybe one of my guys will fall to me.I hear Keyshawn Johnson's gettin' the itch. He says he's dominated the broadcast thing and is lookingto expend some energy other than runnin' his mouth. He likes Carolina and figures he's not too old to fit into their scheme. So ok guys, here we go. Time to put on your thinkin' caps and see who you can pluck outta the later rounds that's gonna help make a difference in your team and keep you in the game.Good luck!!

 
Kinda surprised McGahee lasted to my 9.01 pick. I know he has a ton of question marks, and I'm not his biggest fan, but considering he went @ 5.08, 6.09 & 6.13 (even as one WSL team's RB1)..that is value I can't pass on. I had planned on taking Chester Taylor hear to cuff to ADP, but frankly I think I'd rather have McGahee as my RB4 than Chesta.

 
Up dated through 9.15 choice and the player positions are accurate to there.....pick #143.
 
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Civil Deposits Rule in effect.

I. WSL #4

1) The Sig (960)

#01 1.01 Peterson, Adrian RB-MIN #1

#32 2.16 Jacobs, Brandon RB-NYG #15

#33 3.01 Brees, Drew QB-NOS #1

#64 4:16 Jackson, Vincent WR-SDC #23

#65 5:01 Williams, Roy WR-DAL #24

#96 6.16 White, LenDale RB-TEN #30

#97 7:01 Holt, Torry WR-STL #40

#128 8.16 Quinn, Brady QB-CLE #25

#129 9.01 McGahee, Willis RB-BAL #42

2) Toads (922)

#02 1.02 Fitzgerald, Larry WR-ARI #1

#31 2.15 Clark, Dallas TE-IND #4

#34 3.02 Brown, Ronnie RB-MIA #16

#63 4:15 Moore, Lance WR-NOS #22

#66 5.02 Thigpen, Tyler QB-KCC #12

#95 6:12 Clayton, Mark WR-BAL #40

#98 7.02 Flacco, Joe QB-BAL #17

#127 8:15 Maclin, Jeremy FA-WR #47; ROOKIE WR-#2

#130 9.02 Greene, Shonn FA-RB #43; ROOKIE RB-#4

3) Crippler (838)

#03 1.03 Jackson, Steven RB-STL #2

#30 2.14 Gates, Antonio, Tony TE-SDC #3

#35 3.03 Addai, Joseph RB-IND #17

#62 4.14 Rothlisberger, Ben QB-PIT #11

#67 5:03 Ward, Hines WR-PIT #25

#94 6:12 Ginn, Ted WR-MIA #39

#99 7.03 Wells, Chris "Beanie" FA-RB #31; ROOKIE RB-#2

#126 8:14 Chambers, Chris WR-SDC #46

#131 9.03 Edwards, Trent QB-BUF #26

4) Duke1948 (830)

#04 1.04 Turner, Michael RB-ATL #3

#29 2.13 Bowe, Dwayne WR-KCC #13

#36 3.04 Houshmandzedeh, TJ WR-CIN #14

#61 4.13 Schaub, Matt QB-HOU #10

#68 5.04 Stewart, Jonathan RB-CAR #24

#93 6.13 Moreno, Knowshon FA-RB #29; ROOKIE RB-#1

#100 7.04 Keller, Dustin TE-NYJ #10

#125 8:13 Curtis, Kevin WR-PHI #45

#132 9:04 Gage, Justin WR-TEN #48

5) Road Warriors (808)

#05 1.05 Williams, DeAngelo RB-CAR #4

#28 2.12 Welker, Wes WR-NEP #12

#37 3.05 Bush, Reggie RB-NOS #18

#60 4.12 Winslow, Kellen TE-CLE #7

#69 5:05 Moss, Santana WR-WAS #26

#92 6:12 Coles, Lavernaeus WR-NYJ #38

#101 7.05 Delhomme, Jake QB-CAR #18

#124 8:12 Branch, Deon WR-SEA #44

#133 9.05 Bulger, Mark QB-STL #27

6) Abrecher (758)

#06 1.06 Forte, Matt RB-CHI #5

#27 2.11 Colston, Marques WR-NOS #11

#38 3.06 Ocho Cinco, Chad WR-CIN #15

#59 4.11 Daniels, Owen TE-HOU #6

#70 5.06 Johnson, Larry RB-KCC #25

#91 6.11 Garrard, David QB-JAC #16

#102 7.06 Palmer, Carson QB-CAR #19

#123 8.11 Taylor, Chester RB-MIN #41

#134 9:06 Burleson, Nate WR-SEA #49

7) Gamma1210 (670)

#07 1.07 Westbrook, Brian RB-PHI #6

#26 2.10 Jennings, Greg WR-GBP #10

#39 3.07 Jones, Thomas RB-NYJ #19

#58 4.10 McNabb, Donovan QB-PHI #9

#71 5:07 Cotchery, Jerico WR-NYJ #27

#90 6:10 Burress, Plaxico WR-NYG #37

#103 7.07 Lewis, Jamal RB-CLE #32

#122 8.10 Campbell, Jason QB-WAS #24

#135 9.07 Shockey, Jeremy TE-NOS #15

8) Sigmund Bloom (658)

#08 1.08 Johnson, Andre WR-HOU #2

#25 2.09 *Gonzales, Tony TE-KCC #2

#40 3.08 Manning, Peyton QB-IND #2

#57 4.09 Smith, Kevin RB-DET #23

#72 5:08 Gonzalez, Anthony WR-IND #28

#89 6:09 Breaston, Steve WR-ARI #36

#104 7.08 Sproules, Darren RB-SDC #33

#121 8.09 Graham, Earnest RB-TBB #40

#136 9:08 Hester, Devin WR-CHI #50

9) Glumpy (544)

#09 1.09 Jones-Drew, Maurice RB-JAC #7

#24 2.08 Boldin, Anquan WR-ARI #9

#41 3.09 Bryant, Antonio WR-TBB #16

#56 4.08 McFadden, Darren RB-OAK #22

#73 5.09 Manning, Eli QB-NYG #13

#88 6.08 Pennington, Chad QB-MIA #15

#105 7.09 McClain, LeRon RB-BAL #34

#120 8.08 Shiancoe, Visanthe TE-MIN #14

#137 9:09 Harrison, Marvin WR-IND #51

10) Nittanylion (509)

#10 1.10 Smith, Steve WR-CAR #3

#23 2.07 Witten, Jason TE-DAL #1

#42 3.10 Warner, Curt QB-ARI #3

#55 4.07 Evans, Lee WR-BUF #21

#74 5:10 Walter, Kevin WR-HOU #29

#87 6.07 Ward, Derrick RB-NYG #28

#106 7.10 Washington, Leon RB-NYJ #35

#119 8:07 Smith, Steve WR-NYG #43

#138 9.10 Jackson, Fred RB-BUF #44

11) Hawkeyes 1972 (XXX)

#11 1.11 Johnson, Chris RB-TEN #8

#22 2.06 Wayne, Reggie WR-IND #8

#43 3.11 Owens, Terrell WR-DAL #17

#54 4.06 Brady, Tom QB-NEP #8

#75 5:11 Jackson DeSean WR-PHI #30

#86 6.06 Parker, Willie RB-PIT #27

#107 7.11 Celeck, Brent TE-PHI #11

#118 8.06 Miller, Heath TE-PIT #13

#139 9.11 TIME OUT

12) Beachbum (280)

#12 1.12 Slaton, Steve RB-HOU #9

#21 2.05 White, Roddy WR-ATL #7

#44 3.12 Royal, Eddie WR-DEN #18

#53 4.05 Romo, Tony QB-DAL #7

#76 5.12 Olsen, Greg TE-CHI #8

#85 6:05 Avery, Donnie WR-STL #35

#108 7.12 Miller, Zach TE-OAK #12

#117 8.05 Cassell, Matt QB-NEP #23

#140 9.12 Rice, Ray RB-BAL #45

13) El Super Gringo (226)

#13 1.13 Gore, Frank RB-SFO #10

#20 2.04 Marshall, Brandon WR-DEN #6

#45 3.13 Thomas, Pierre RB-NOS #20

#52 4.04 Grant, Ryan RB-GBP #21

#77 5:13 Mason, Derrick WR-BAL #31

#84 6:04 Crabtree, Eric WR-FA #34; ROOKIE WR-#1

#109 7.13 Orton, Kyle QB-CHI #20

#116 8.04 Hasselbeck, Matt QB-SEA #22

#141 9.13 Davis, Vernon TE-SFO #16

14) Moe Green (106)

#14 1.14 Barber, Marion III RB-DAL #11

#19 2.03 Johnson, Calvin WR-DET #5

#46 3.14 Cooley, Chris TE-WAS #5

#51 4.03 Cutler, Jay QB-DEN #6

#78 5.14 Hightower, Tim RB-ARI #26

#83 6:03 Driver, Donald WR-GBP #33

#110 7.14 Jones, Felix RB-DAL #36

#115 8.03 Russell, JaMarkus QB-OAK #21

#142 9.14 Choice, Tashard RB-DAL #46

15) Ghost of Bill Walsh (568)

#15 1.15 Portis, Clinton RB-WAS #12

#18 2.02 Lynch, Marshawn RB-BUF #14

#47 3.15 Holmes, Santonio WR-PIT #19

#50 4.02 Rogers, Aaron QB-GBP #5

#79 5.15 Carlson, John TE-SEA #9

#82 6.02 Ryan, Matt QB-ATL #14

#111 7:15 Jones, Matt WR-STL #42

#114 8.02 Mendenhall, Rashard RB-PIT #39

#143 9:15 Muhammed, Mushin WR-CAR #52

#136 10.02 Norwood, Jerious RB-NOS #45

16) FUBAR (98)

#16 1.16 Tomlinson, LaDanian RB-SDC #13

#17 2.01 Moss, Randy WR-NEP #4

#48 3.16 Edwards, Braylon WR-CLE #20

#49 4.01 Rivers, Phillip QB-SDC #4

#80 5.16 Scheffler, Tony TE-DEN #10

#81 6:01 Berrian, Bernard WR-MIN #32

#112 7.16 Benson, Cedric RB-CIN #37

#113 8.01 McCoy, LeSean FA-RB #38 Rookie RB-#3

#144 9.16 Heap, Todd TE-BAL #17

#145 10.01 Hill, Shaun QB-SFO #28
From an outside perspective...Really digging The Sig, Gamma1210, Sigmund Bloom, Glumpy, and Moe Green (like the different combinations).

Really NOT liking Toads, Road Warriors, or Nittanylion (risky or kinda meh combinations).

The rest? Each have potential here and there. Some hits. Some misses.

Of course, now that I have said this, after the 2009 season is done, it will be either Toads, Road Warriors, or Nittanylion that will win. ;)

 
Civil Deposits Rule in effect.

I. WSL #4

1) The Sig (960)

#01 1.01 Peterson, Adrian RB-MIN #1

#32 2.16 Jacobs, Brandon RB-NYG #15

#33 3.01 Brees, Drew QB-NOS #1

#64 4:16 Jackson, Vincent WR-SDC #23

#65 5:01 Williams, Roy WR-DAL #24

#96 6.16 White, LenDale RB-TEN #30

#97 7:01 Holt, Torry WR-STL #40

#128 8.16 Quinn, Brady QB-CLE #25

#129 9.01 McGahee, Willis RB-BAL #42

2) Toads (922)

#02 1.02 Fitzgerald, Larry WR-ARI #1

#31 2.15 Clark, Dallas TE-IND #4

#34 3.02 Brown, Ronnie RB-MIA #16

#63 4:15 Moore, Lance WR-NOS #22

#66 5.02 Thigpen, Tyler QB-KCC #12

#95 6:12 Clayton, Mark WR-BAL #40

#98 7.02 Flacco, Joe QB-BAL #17

#127 8:15 Maclin, Jeremy FA-WR #47; ROOKIE WR-#2

#130 9.02 Greene, Shonn FA-RB #43; ROOKIE RB-#4

3) Crippler (838)

#03 1.03 Jackson, Steven RB-STL #2

#30 2.14 Gates, Antonio, Tony TE-SDC #3

#35 3.03 Addai, Joseph RB-IND #17

#62 4.14 Rothlisberger, Ben QB-PIT #11

#67 5:03 Ward, Hines WR-PIT #25

#94 6:12 Ginn, Ted WR-MIA #39

#99 7.03 Wells, Chris "Beanie" FA-RB #31; ROOKIE RB-#2

#126 8:14 Chambers, Chris WR-SDC #46

#131 9.03 Edwards, Trent QB-BUF #26

4) Duke1948 (830)

#04 1.04 Turner, Michael RB-ATL #3

#29 2.13 Bowe, Dwayne WR-KCC #13

#36 3.04 Houshmandzedeh, TJ WR-CIN #14

#61 4.13 Schaub, Matt QB-HOU #10

#68 5.04 Stewart, Jonathan RB-CAR #24

#93 6.13 Moreno, Knowshon FA-RB #29; ROOKIE RB-#1

#100 7.04 Keller, Dustin TE-NYJ #10

#125 8:13 Curtis, Kevin WR-PHI #45

#132 9:04 Gage, Justin WR-TEN #48

5) Road Warriors (808)

#05 1.05 Williams, DeAngelo RB-CAR #4

#28 2.12 Welker, Wes WR-NEP #12

#37 3.05 Bush, Reggie RB-NOS #18

#60 4.12 Winslow, Kellen TE-CLE #7

#69 5:05 Moss, Santana WR-WAS #26

#92 6:12 Coles, Lavernaeus WR-NYJ #38

#101 7.05 Delhomme, Jake QB-CAR #18

#124 8:12 Branch, Deon WR-SEA #44

#133 9.05 Bulger, Mark QB-STL #27

6) Abrecher (758)

#06 1.06 Forte, Matt RB-CHI #5

#27 2.11 Colston, Marques WR-NOS #11

#38 3.06 Ocho Cinco, Chad WR-CIN #15

#59 4.11 Daniels, Owen TE-HOU #6

#70 5.06 Johnson, Larry RB-KCC #25

#91 6.11 Garrard, David QB-JAC #16

#102 7.06 Palmer, Carson QB-CAR #19

#123 8.11 Taylor, Chester RB-MIN #41

#134 9:06 Burleson, Nate WR-SEA #49

7) Gamma1210 (670)

#07 1.07 Westbrook, Brian RB-PHI #6

#26 2.10 Jennings, Greg WR-GBP #10

#39 3.07 Jones, Thomas RB-NYJ #19

#58 4.10 McNabb, Donovan QB-PHI #9

#71 5:07 Cotchery, Jerico WR-NYJ #27

#90 6:10 Burress, Plaxico WR-NYG #37

#103 7.07 Lewis, Jamal RB-CLE #32

#122 8.10 Campbell, Jason QB-WAS #24

#135 9.07 Shockey, Jeremy TE-NOS #15

8) Sigmund Bloom (658)

#08 1.08 Johnson, Andre WR-HOU #2

#25 2.09 *Gonzales, Tony TE-KCC #2

#40 3.08 Manning, Peyton QB-IND #2

#57 4.09 Smith, Kevin RB-DET #23

#72 5:08 Gonzalez, Anthony WR-IND #28

#89 6:09 Breaston, Steve WR-ARI #36

#104 7.08 Sproules, Darren RB-SDC #33

#121 8.09 Graham, Earnest RB-TBB #40

#136 9:08 Hester, Devin WR-CHI #50

9) Glumpy (544)

#09 1.09 Jones-Drew, Maurice RB-JAC #7

#24 2.08 Boldin, Anquan WR-ARI #9

#41 3.09 Bryant, Antonio WR-TBB #16

#56 4.08 McFadden, Darren RB-OAK #22

#73 5.09 Manning, Eli QB-NYG #13

#88 6.08 Pennington, Chad QB-MIA #15

#105 7.09 McClain, LeRon RB-BAL #34

#120 8.08 Shiancoe, Visanthe TE-MIN #14

#137 9:09 Harrison, Marvin WR-IND #51

10) Nittanylion (509)

#10 1.10 Smith, Steve WR-CAR #3

#23 2.07 Witten, Jason TE-DAL #1

#42 3.10 Warner, Curt QB-ARI #3

#55 4.07 Evans, Lee WR-BUF #21

#74 5:10 Walter, Kevin WR-HOU #29

#87 6.07 Ward, Derrick RB-NYG #28

#106 7.10 Washington, Leon RB-NYJ #35

#119 8:07 Smith, Steve WR-NYG #43

#138 9.10 Jackson, Fred RB-BUF #44

11) Hawkeyes 1972 (XXX)

#11 1.11 Johnson, Chris RB-TEN #8

#22 2.06 Wayne, Reggie WR-IND #8

#43 3.11 Owens, Terrell WR-DAL #17

#54 4.06 Brady, Tom QB-NEP #8

#75 5:11 Jackson DeSean WR-PHI #30

#86 6.06 Parker, Willie RB-PIT #27

#107 7.11 Celeck, Brent TE-PHI #11

#118 8.06 Miller, Heath TE-PIT #13

#139 9.11 TIME OUT

12) Beachbum (280)

#12 1.12 Slaton, Steve RB-HOU #9

#21 2.05 White, Roddy WR-ATL #7

#44 3.12 Royal, Eddie WR-DEN #18

#53 4.05 Romo, Tony QB-DAL #7

#76 5.12 Olsen, Greg TE-CHI #8

#85 6:05 Avery, Donnie WR-STL #35

#108 7.12 Miller, Zach TE-OAK #12

#117 8.05 Cassell, Matt QB-NEP #23

#140 9.12 Rice, Ray RB-BAL #45

13) El Super Gringo (226)

#13 1.13 Gore, Frank RB-SFO #10

#20 2.04 Marshall, Brandon WR-DEN #6

#45 3.13 Thomas, Pierre RB-NOS #20

#52 4.04 Grant, Ryan RB-GBP #21

#77 5:13 Mason, Derrick WR-BAL #31

#84 6:04 Crabtree, Eric WR-FA #34; ROOKIE WR-#1

#109 7.13 Orton, Kyle QB-CHI #20

#116 8.04 Hasselbeck, Matt QB-SEA #22

#141 9.13 Davis, Vernon TE-SFO #16

14) Moe Green (106)

#14 1.14 Barber, Marion III RB-DAL #11

#19 2.03 Johnson, Calvin WR-DET #5

#46 3.14 Cooley, Chris TE-WAS #5

#51 4.03 Cutler, Jay QB-DEN #6

#78 5.14 Hightower, Tim RB-ARI #26

#83 6:03 Driver, Donald WR-GBP #33

#110 7.14 Jones, Felix RB-DAL #36

#115 8.03 Russell, JaMarkus QB-OAK #21

#142 9.14 Choice, Tashard RB-DAL #46

15) Ghost of Bill Walsh (568)

#15 1.15 Portis, Clinton RB-WAS #12

#18 2.02 Lynch, Marshawn RB-BUF #14

#47 3.15 Holmes, Santonio WR-PIT #19

#50 4.02 Rogers, Aaron QB-GBP #5

#79 5.15 Carlson, John TE-SEA #9

#82 6.02 Ryan, Matt QB-ATL #14

#111 7:15 Jones, Matt WR-STL #42

#114 8.02 Mendenhall, Rashard RB-PIT #39

#143 9:15 Muhammed, Mushin WR-CAR #52

#136 10.02 Norwood, Jerious RB-NOS #45

16) FUBAR (98)

#16 1.16 Tomlinson, LaDanian RB-SDC #13

#17 2.01 Moss, Randy WR-NEP #4

#48 3.16 Edwards, Braylon WR-CLE #20

#49 4.01 Rivers, Phillip QB-SDC #4

#80 5.16 Scheffler, Tony TE-DEN #10

#81 6:01 Berrian, Bernard WR-MIN #32

#112 7.16 Benson, Cedric RB-CIN #37

#113 8.01 McCoy, LeSean FA-RB #38 Rookie RB-#3

#144 9.16 Heap, Todd TE-BAL #17

#145 10.01 Hill, Shaun QB-SFO #28
From an outside perspective...Really digging The Sig, Gamma1210, Sigmund Bloom, Glumpy, and Moe Green (like the different combinations).

Really NOT liking Toads, Road Warriors, or Nittanylion (risky or kinda meh combinations).

The rest? Each have potential here and there. Some hits. Some misses.

Of course, now that I have said this, after the 2009 season is done, it will be either Toads, Road Warriors, or Nittanylion that will win. :P
Based on the teams as of now I'd pick Beachbum to win it. I also like The Sig's team and Sigmund Bloom's team. I'm sure my point of view will change with 10 rounds left to go.The players that get drafted in those rounds could end up being the difference maker/makers on the team that eventually wins it.So study long and study hard guys as these last 10 rounds just might determine if you win it all or not. 20 rounds so do AARP members get their usual 10% overage in the draft? We'll get to draft 22 players(10% overage) :yes: and drop 2 later as our minds aren't as sharp and on the ball like you younger fellows.You must be 50 to be an AARP member and I've been a member in good standing now for 7 years so I was just curious about the 10% overage rule. I'm sure it won't fly but hey might as well ask as some of you might want to try it in the future up :shrug: Ya never know.Just checked and they're are only 20 more picks before I getto pick inthe 11th round :goodposting: That's the only thing I don't like when drafting 16 teamand being near the turn.Yeah, you may get 2 players quickly but a lot of good ones fall before you next picks. I'll deal with it.My team's not too bad but by no means a world beater either. My best hope and chance is to do some savvy drafting and maybe take some chances on players in these later rounds that could pay off for me. 10 rounds to go and I got a couple of guys who could turn out to be pretty good sleepers. Will they be enough to get me over the hump? Don't know, I'll have to wait and see. Got some good sleepers available if you're interested. All donations will go directly to the Bill Walsh Retirement Home for EX NFL and Fantasy Players :clap: , where I plan to be residing at a later date. Bill has given so much to us it's time we give a little back. As I said, I got some gooooood sleepers for the 2009 season so get 'em while they're hot :hophead: Of course I can't give them all to you as I gotta keep some to myself to try and win this thing, but I'll let a few go :thumbup:

 
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Two best teams by far are FUBAR and Bloom's. Everybody else has at least one gaping hole in their team that they'll be hardpressed to make up ground on.

 
If you guys are gettin' a little tired out and hangin' around, I can fix that for you. I;ll just make ecerbody's pick from here on out, I'll make good picks for you. If there's one you don't like after the draft I'll give ya one mulligan.

 
Two best teams by far are FUBAR and Bloom's. Everybody else has at least one gaping hole in their team that they'll be hardpressed to make up ground on.
:no: :shrug: I actually don't know if I agree (haven't looked that closely at the rosters yet), but I like the way you're thinking.
 
Guess I'm not the only one in this league wondering how the old farts might produce--Isaac Bruce picked at WR 61!

In the other WSL's he went 46, 49 & 52...

:goodposting:

 
Guess I'm not the only one in this league wondering how the old farts might produce--Isaac Bruce picked at WR 61! In the other WSL's he went 46, 49 & 52... :shock:
I thought about him long and hard at the 10.16/11.01 turn. Thought he was great value there, just decided to go in a different direction.
 
doo-doo-dee-dee. doo-doo-dee-dee... :twilightzonetheme:

Is it just me, or has Rod Serling taken this Draft and run with it? Started in Round 10, with all the timeouts, confusion and hawkeye being replaced by sinrman, and now this Rd 11 WR run from Hades.

Well, at least in another Time, Space or Dimension I could conceivably roster Kurt Warner and Kerry Collins as my QB's and not just shake my head...

...maybe Huey Lewis was onto something, and it really IS hip to be square!!!

 
Rosters and position picks updated through 12.06 = pick #182:

QB #22, RB #57, WR #71, TE # 22 etc.

 
Toads said:
Rosters and position picks updated through 12.06 = pick #182:

QB #22, RB #57, WR #71, TE # 22 etc.
Thanks for all the work in keeping the teams updated. Much appreciated!the_sig

 
Toads said:
Rosters and position picks updated through 12.06 = pick #182:

QB #22, RB #57, WR #71, TE # 22 etc.
Thanks for all the work in keeping the teams updated. Much appreciated!the_sig
It's a pain in the ### but that's why I'm doing this.....to get an early season handle on where they fall.It would be nice for the other drafts to have employed the pick status #'s but if you don't do it to start, it's a fair amount of pedlin' to go back and re-do it.

It's also nice to see how the WR's went from being about even with the RB's after about 8-1/2 rounds to having a substantial lead after 12 rounds. Makes sense: a PPR League.

What doesn't make sense is that in a 2-PPR TE Scoring format, nobody took advantage of the two TE Stud possibilities. The mathematics point to a significant advantage in this format.


 
16) FUBAR (98)

#16 1.16 Tomlinson, LaDanian RB-SDC #13

#17 2.01 Moss, Randy WR-NEP #4

#48 3.16 Edwards, Braylon WR-CLE #20

#49 4.01 Rivers, Phillip QB-SDC #4

#80 5.16 Scheffler, Tony TE-DEN #10

#81 6:01 Berrian, Bernard WR-MIN #32

#112 7.16 Benson, Cedric RB-CIN #37

#113 8.01 McCoy, LeSean FA-RB #38 Rookie RB-#3

#144 9.16 Heap, Todd TE-BAL #17

#145 10.01 Hill, Shaun QB-SFO #28

#176 11.16 Caldwell, Andre, WR-CIN #68

#177 12.01 Jones, James WR-GBP #69

It appears I may have reached with the last two picks. Caldwell went as the #100 WR in W3, #109 in W2, and in the 20th round in W1. JJ was Hucks pick in the 14th in W1 (always a bad sign), WR76 in W2, and WR75 in W3. Still, I like the picks. There probably isn't much difference between WR68-WR100, and with Housh probably leaving, Caldwell seemed like a good pick. It's just interesting to see the variance in values. Of course, I swung for the fences when some proven WRs are still out there. I like my WR corps though, Moss/Edwards/Berrian/Caldwell/JJ should outscore most other groups.

 
16) FUBAR (98)

#16 1.16 Tomlinson, LaDanian RB-SDC #13

#17 2.01 Moss, Randy WR-NEP #4

#48 3.16 Edwards, Braylon WR-CLE #20

#49 4.01 Rivers, Phillip QB-SDC #4

#80 5.16 Scheffler, Tony TE-DEN #10

#81 6:01 Berrian, Bernard WR-MIN #32

#112 7.16 Benson, Cedric RB-CIN #37

#113 8.01 McCoy, LeSean FA-RB #38 Rookie RB-#3

#144 9.16 Heap, Todd TE-BAL #17

#145 10.01 Hill, Shaun QB-SFO #28

#176 11.16 Caldwell, Andre, WR-CIN #68

#177 12.01 Jones, James WR-GBP #69

It appears I may have reached with the last two picks. Caldwell went as the #100 WR in W3, #109 in W2, and in the 20th round in W1. JJ was Hucks pick in the 14th in W1 (always a bad sign), WR76 in W2, and WR75 in W3. Still, I like the picks. There probably isn't much difference between WR68-WR100, and with Housh probably leaving, Caldwell seemed like a good pick. It's just interesting to see the variance in values. Of course, I swung for the fences when some proven WRs are still out there. I like my WR corps though, Moss/Edwards/Berrian/Caldwell/JJ should outscore most other groups.
Different information leads to differtent awareness curves which yields different results.You are more aware of the situation in CIN now than the other drafters were when they made the same decision in the earlier drafts. Plus, it only takes one guy to make hay out of a situation in the making.

I'd prefer to think of it as the others were sleeping and you correctly called the poker layout. Now, Caldwell can take an injury flop and your best laid plans can go awry but I think that you made an astute call.

Another way to look at it was you're pickin' at the turn: what two WR's do you want from all the WR's that are going to fall in the next 30 some picks? Once you look through that window, it's a lot tougher call than the guys in the middle get to make.

And, as for J.L. Higgins: I'm sure he fell later in other drafts but one thing I never do is to go seek out what other guys thought of in the other drafts. Where a player falls is useful later in the year: you can identify a player and try to target them at certain points in a draft or trade into a spot to draft a targeted player. I just felt that Higgins had the inside track to be the #1 WR in OAK, was the QB's "target of choice" and that he had an upside that far exceeded his pick range (#56 WR).

Once you get that justification thing going, you get to :thumbup: your pick on home.

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James Jones would not have made it back to you Fubar, so good pick. Caldwell might be okay in the end.

Hey I did not go 2 stud TE as one was enough for me but I did with the D's. they are not as consistent and I have the 1/2. Not sure if it will be a big difference or not but I was happy with my other core of players each week. Feel I got 3 solid RB's, 4 solid WR's, stud TE and good QB combo. So why not pile up on one position. Looks like a run might start which is a good thing.

 
Now that RB Marshawn Lynch(arsehole) got himself arrested with a gun and I missed out on Fred Jackson pencil me in for thr bottom feeders this year. Why do these friggin' guys keep doin' this shiot. Makes you afraid to draft anybody for fear they're gonna get arrested. I'm sure the NFL will impose at least a 4 game suspension. So much for my rb's helping my team this year. My only hope now lies in my sleeper picks which are coming up shortly. If I hit on a couple of them I might make to the middle of the pack. I can assure you I won't be drafting Lynch in any of my other leagues. What a buttwipe.

 
Topic continuation: Nittanylion time out.

I've fought this in draft's for year's: rules and clocks and such. It's difficult untill we all understand what drives these things.

The forces at work are those of:

1) Time Zones, and

2) Access patterns....either at work, at home or both.

To understand Nittanylion's problem, you have to understand his limits. It's apparent to me that he checks in before he goes to work and when he get's home.. He checks in again before he hit's the hay. If he can vote at any access time, he does so. If he can't, he's stuck waiting for the next ship to come in.

So, we have to live with our limits. We can understand which time zone he's in and be aware that he's the limit for the draft timing.

We can "set the table" for him and then take into account the limits of the other's that may be a factor.What that means is that when he get's home, he'll vote. He'll vote before he goes to bed. He'll vote before he exits the house in the morning.

So, in order to do the best with what we've got, we need to have everybody be aware of those limits.

To that end, we need to know what time zone Nittanylion resides. Then we need to be aware of getting the table set around his limits:

1) Time to bed,

2) Time to rise....check before morning exit house, and

3) usuall time check in at home.

Ranges for these work but in order to have it make sense, it has to be converted to a time that everybody can reference. IF WE CONVERT TO EST, that seems to work best. I'm in the mountain time zone (MST) and EST has a three hour lead on me....I just add three hours and that's my reference time.

Once we get Nittanylion's schedule down, we work around it and do the best we can with it.

That beat's the heck out of setting an artifical 2 hour limit for this situation....a limit that has no bearing on the solution. :thumbup:

 
Dont care. Luckily we are past the main part of the draft were missing a pick can hurt. Just go on without him and leave it at 4 hours for the rest of the draft. He can come pick whenever he wants. Sending a list at this time is easy also.

 
#07 1.07 Westbrook, Brian RB-PHI #6

#26 2.10 Jennings, Greg WR-GBP #10

#39 3.07 Jones, Thomas RB-NYJ #19

#58 4.10 McNabb, Donovan QB-PHI #9

#71 5:07 Cotchery, Jerico WR-NYJ #27

#90 6:10 Burress, Plaxico WR-NYG #37

#103 7.07 Lewis, Jamal RB-CLE #32

#122 8.10 Campbell, Jason QB-WAS #24

#135 9.07 Shockey, Jeremy TE-NOS #15

#154 10.10 Mahroney, Lawrence RB-NEP #51

#167 11.07 Bruce, Issac WR-SFO #61

#186 12.10 Harvin, Percy FA-WR #72 ROOKIE WR-#3

#199 13.07 Watson, Ben TE-NEP #24

14.10 BUF DEF

Pretty Happy with my team so far. Obviously weak at TE and DEF, but I like my QBs and RBs a lot. I didn't plan on grabbing my 3rd and 4th RBs so early but I liked the value where I got them. Most of my picks were trying to take BPA at the time. I did target Campbell as my backup QB as I think he is very undervalued. Things will change with FA and the draft but we don't know any of it yet so no use in trying to predict.

 
#07 1.07 Westbrook, Brian RB-PHI #6#26 2.10 Jennings, Greg WR-GBP #10 #39 3.07 Jones, Thomas RB-NYJ #19#58 4.10 McNabb, Donovan QB-PHI #9#71 5:07 Cotchery, Jerico WR-NYJ #27#90 6:10 Burress, Plaxico WR-NYG #37#103 7.07 Lewis, Jamal RB-CLE #32#122 8.10 Campbell, Jason QB-WAS #24#135 9.07 Shockey, Jeremy TE-NOS #15 #154 10.10 Mahroney, Lawrence RB-NEP #51#167 11.07 Bruce, Issac WR-SFO #61 #186 12.10 Harvin, Percy FA-WR #72 ROOKIE WR-#3#199 13.07 Watson, Ben TE-NEP #2414.10 BUF DEFPretty Happy with my team so far. Obviously weak at TE and DEF, but I like my QBs and RBs a lot. I didn't plan on grabbing my 3rd and 4th RBs so early but I liked the value where I got them. Most of my picks were trying to take BPA at the time. I did target Campbell as my backup QB as I think he is very undervalued. Things will change with FA and the draft but we don't know any of it yet so no use in trying to predict.
I like each player, but you seem too heavily invested in the NFC East and in cold weather states in general. Did you actively seek out the combos? Cotch/TJ, McNabb/Westbrook, Maroney/Watson, and both QBs from the same division. Not neccessarily a bad thing, I'm just curious if this was intentional.
 
#07 1.07 Westbrook, Brian RB-PHI #6#26 2.10 Jennings, Greg WR-GBP #10 #39 3.07 Jones, Thomas RB-NYJ #19#58 4.10 McNabb, Donovan QB-PHI #9#71 5:07 Cotchery, Jerico WR-NYJ #27#90 6:10 Burress, Plaxico WR-NYG #37#103 7.07 Lewis, Jamal RB-CLE #32#122 8.10 Campbell, Jason QB-WAS #24#135 9.07 Shockey, Jeremy TE-NOS #15 #154 10.10 Mahroney, Lawrence RB-NEP #51#167 11.07 Bruce, Issac WR-SFO #61 #186 12.10 Harvin, Percy FA-WR #72 ROOKIE WR-#3#199 13.07 Watson, Ben TE-NEP #2414.10 BUF DEFPretty Happy with my team so far. Obviously weak at TE and DEF, but I like my QBs and RBs a lot. I didn't plan on grabbing my 3rd and 4th RBs so early but I liked the value where I got them. Most of my picks were trying to take BPA at the time. I did target Campbell as my backup QB as I think he is very undervalued. Things will change with FA and the draft but we don't know any of it yet so no use in trying to predict.
Kind of funny. I like your TE`s for value and really dont like your RB`s. Lewis is done, Maroney might be okay but Jones is overrated based on last year. I see him going down bigtime after his career year. QB is okay other than I am not a big McNabb fan and think Campbell is just okay. It wont hurt you but wont help either. Not that I like my team either but I do prefer my RB, QB is close, I got the stud TE and best D in the league. My WR is not as good though.
 
This draft reminds me ofthe Pac-man game. You see all the WR's and Defenses running around and all of us chasing to gobble them up as quick as we can trying to get all the good one's first,LOL.Then when it gets thin you see everybody converging on trying to gobble up what's left so you don't get left out without gettin' a couple.

 
This draft reminds me ofthe Pac-man game. You see all the WR's and Defenses running around and all of us chasing to gobble them up as quick as we can trying to get all the good one's first,LOL.Then when it gets thin you see everybody converging on trying to gobble up what's left so you don't get left out without gettin' a couple.
Not true: 1) 13.12 pick = Nelson, Jordy

2) 13.15 pick = Stokley, Brandon

3) 14.03 pick = Miller, Billy

4) 14.09 pick = Floyd, Malcom

Everybody else, from the 13.10 to the 14.11, took a DEF/ST.


 
Auggghhh...whiffed on the D/ST Cowboys selection. Crossed the wrong one off on my list when they were taken, and it wound up costing me - I left the Site briefly, and whaddaya know: Falcons:GONE, Bills:GONE - which were the other two I was mulling over. The Texans are moving in the right direction, though, I think - at the very least I'm going to land a healthy tally of sacks out of them, and there's some potential there for the ever-elusive Special Teams TD.

 
This draft reminds me ofthe Pac-man game. You see all the WR's and Defenses running around and all of us chasing to gobble them up as quick as we can trying to get all the good one's first,LOL.Then when it gets thin you see everybody converging on trying to gobble up what's left so you don't get left out without gettin' a couple.
Not true: 1) 13.12 pick = Nelson, Jordy

2) 13.15 pick = Stokley, Brandon

3) 14.03 pick = Miller, Billy

4) 14.09 pick = Floyd, Malcom

Everybody else, from the 13.10 to the 14.11, took a DEF/ST.

WR's got gobbled up in a coupla rounds. 10 WR's went in round 2 and 14 wr's went in round 11. Then ther's only 32 defenses so 8 def's went in round 13 and 10 Def's went in round 14. Sure wiped out over halfthe D's in 2 rounds.I figured the big name wr's would go early like they did in rd.2 but all but 2 picks were wr's in round 11. Lot of receivers for that deep of round.
 
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Two best teams by far are FUBAR and Bloom's. Everybody else has at least one gaping hole in their team that they'll be hardpressed to make up ground on.
Bloom's had a good draft, but he has a pretty big gaping hole at RB, IMO.
Im counting on one of Graham or Hillis to be "the guy" for their team. I think both could be. I like that all four of my backs are good pass catchers, and three of the four are in position to get goal line carries - the one that isn't can break it from anywhere on the field. I agree that my RBs are dicey, but I didn't invest much either, so as long as my QB/WR/TE come through, my RBs should be able to hold it down.
 
Two best teams by far are FUBAR and Bloom's. Everybody else has at least one gaping hole in their team that they'll be hardpressed to make up ground on.
Bloom's had a good draft, but he has a pretty big gaping hole at RB, IMO.
Even if he ends up with nobody as The Guy other than Kevin Smith as a workhorse, he doesn't really need more than typical RBBC performance by Sproles or Hills to be fine. Last year I basically won off Lynch + random leftovers.
 
This draft reminds me ofthe Pac-man game. You see all the WR's and Defenses running around and all of us chasing to gobble them up as quick as we can trying to get all the good one's first,LOL.Then when it gets thin you see everybody converging on trying to gobble up what's left so you don't get left out without gettin' a couple.
Not true: 1) 13.12 pick = Nelson, Jordy

2) 13.15 pick = Stokley, Brandon

3) 14.03 pick = Miller, Billy

4) 14.09 pick = Floyd, Malcom

Everybody else, from the 13.10 to the 14.11, took a DEF/ST.

It was due, imo.
 
With 4 rounds to go...

#49 4.01 Rivers, Phillip QB-SDC #4

#145 10.01 Hill, Shaun QB-SFO #28

- Stud QB and a local backup. I wanted one of a few heading into the 4th, I figured I'd be left with a big drop off if I waited (the challenge of picking at the turn)

#16 1.16 Tomlinson, LaDanian RB-SDC #13

#112 7.16 Benson, Cedric RB-CIN #37

#113 8.01 McCoy, LeSean FA-RB #38 Rookie RB-#3

- Not in love with the trio, but LT has at least one year of top production left, I was surprised that he fell to me. Benson will probably start next year and McCoy could be this year's Chris Johnson.

#17 2.01 Moss, Randy WR-NEP #4

#48 3.16 Edwards, Braylon WR-CLE #20

#81 6:01 Berrian, Bernard WR-MIN #32

#176 11.16 Caldwell, Andre, WR-CIN #68

#177 12.01 Jones, James WR-GBP #69

#240 15.15 Brown, Reggie WR-PHI #83

- One STUD, one stud coming off a bad year who I think will rebound, Berrian is solid if inconsistent and the other 3 provide decent depth. I'm happy with this group and there won't be many better. (not to say I'm done yet of course)

#80 5.16 Scheffler, Tony TE-DEN #10

#144 9.16 Heap, Todd TE-BAL #17

- Time will tell on Heap, there's good reason for his fall to the 17th TE. Scheffler is going to have some big games and some where he doesn't show up on the stat sheet, hopefully Heap will perform those weeks. Heap was far from a target, but his potential is still top 5 IMO.

#208 13.16 SDC DEF/ST #13

#209 14.01 TBB DEF/ST #14

- Merriman and Special Teams makes SD a playa here, Tampa has a good D as well. I like the DSTBC approach.

#241 16.01 Vinateri, Adam PK-IND #8

- meh, it's a kicker.

Overall, I'm content with the team, but I do have question marks. As we all do.

 
With 4 rounds to go...#49 4.01 Rivers, Phillip QB-SDC #4#145 10.01 Hill, Shaun QB-SFO #28- Stud QB and a local backup. I wanted one of a few heading into the 4th, I figured I'd be left with a big drop off if I waited (the challenge of picking at the turn)#16 1.16 Tomlinson, LaDanian RB-SDC #13#112 7.16 Benson, Cedric RB-CIN #37#113 8.01 McCoy, LeSean FA-RB #38 Rookie RB-#3- Not in love with the trio, but LT has at least one year of top production left, I was surprised that he fell to me. Benson will probably start next year and McCoy could be this year's Chris Johnson. #17 2.01 Moss, Randy WR-NEP #4#48 3.16 Edwards, Braylon WR-CLE #20#81 6:01 Berrian, Bernard WR-MIN #32#176 11.16 Caldwell, Andre, WR-CIN #68#177 12.01 Jones, James WR-GBP #69#240 15.15 Brown, Reggie WR-PHI #83- One STUD, one stud coming off a bad year who I think will rebound, Berrian is solid if inconsistent and the other 3 provide decent depth. I'm happy with this group and there won't be many better. (not to say I'm done yet of course)#80 5.16 Scheffler, Tony TE-DEN #10#144 9.16 Heap, Todd TE-BAL #17- Time will tell on Heap, there's good reason for his fall to the 17th TE. Scheffler is going to have some big games and some where he doesn't show up on the stat sheet, hopefully Heap will perform those weeks. Heap was far from a target, but his potential is still top 5 IMO. #208 13.16 SDC DEF/ST #13#209 14.01 TBB DEF/ST #14- Merriman and Special Teams makes SD a playa here, Tampa has a good D as well. I like the DSTBC approach.#241 16.01 Vinateri, Adam PK-IND #8- meh, it's a kicker.Overall, I'm content with the team, but I do have question marks. As we all do.
Your QBs are solid, Hill was good value where you got him. I think Rivers had a career year, but he'll still a solid top 10.You didn't spend much on RBs and got some upside. LT was a good value, as was Benson, and McCoy is worth it as a swing for the fences - although I don't think his body (he's 20 and he was worked hard at Pitt) is ready for the grind of the NFL, so I look for him to be a role player who breaks some long runs now and then as opposed to being a rook that a team plugs right in.Moss was value at 2.01, and Edwards should bounce back - although Im worried about Quinn limiting Edwards deep game. Berrian is a perfect 3A, although Im not sure who will emerge as a 3B for you - Caldwell is probably ahead in the race to be the #3 (or #2 if Henry messes up in the offseason), and Jones should be better if his knee is better, but Im afraid Jordy will pass him this offseason - although the pack runs enough 4 and 5 wides for Jones to have a handful of good games whether he's the 3 or the 4. Brown was a healthy scratch late, best you can hope for is that he's on a new team this season.Scheffler should benefit from the lack of Shanahanigans, and Heap should benefit from the Ravens taking the shackles off of Flacco. I was talking to Flacco's trainer on the road and he said they focused solely on "safe zones" for Flacco last year - outside and deep - where incompletions are usually the worst that can happen - not many calls to the middle of the field, where Heap does his thing. That should change this year.Nice use of the turn on your D combo.
 
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With events unfolding as they will in the next few days, this Rookie will not be a-round (or oblong) at the next turn: 17.02: Casey, James TE-FA
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shrug:
So as to not be a violator, I'll copy/paste to the Draft Rap thread. :excited: You probably feel about like I did when Bloom, Sigmund snapped up Hillis, Peyton a half round before I could get back to him and a full 20 + picks earlier than he'd been drafted in WSL #1-#3.

I built my whole RB progression on Hillis and was sorely disappointed to have him "snatched from the jaws of victory."

 
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Toads said:
el super gringo said:
Toads said:
With events unfolding as they will in the next few days, this Rookie will not be a-round (or oblong) at the next turn: 17.02: Casey, James TE-FA
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :shrug:
So as to not be a violator, I'll copy/paste to the Draft Rap thread. :excited: You probably feel about like I did when Bloom, Sigmund snapped up Hillis, Peyton a half round before I could get back to him and a full 20 + picks earlier than he'd been drafted in WSL #1-#3.

I built my whole RB progression on Hillis and was sorely disappointed to have him "snatched from the jaws of victory."
It's not my fault WSL1-3 terribly underrated Hillis :suds:
 
...and about as perturbed as I was when you took Warrick Dunn at 16.15, Toads. I was patiently watching him fall, planning on scooping him up as my RB5 at the 17.10 or 18.07. You're going to be pleasantly surprised out of the amount of production you get out of Dunn this Season, as he's the closest there is to a 'sure thing' in the Bucs Offensive Backfield (IMO) - I predict a minimum 32 Receptions, minimum 600 Total Yards and minimum 4 Total TD's - he'll help you stay on the island at least one week, I'd wager.

 
My team. I hate it

QB: I like the combo of Big Ben and Trent. Looking back I almost wish I had taken Peyton at round 3 instead of Addai but it was not terrible in the end. I like Leftwich as I think he gets a nice job somewhere and if not he will be back in Pitt playing a key role. Trent is a guy who I think will progress this year. Health is only concern

RB: I really like my RB's. I hated drawing the 3 spot and wanted like the 7 where I was going to take Fitz. That would have not worked here. LT was a guy I would have loved to have had later on but at this spot, it was Jackson I like the best. If he is healthy, he is the best. Addai should put up better numbers this year. One thing about Indy is they will score points and he also catches the ball. Took a chance on Beanie as I think he could have a successful campaign. I am pretty sure alot of owners that took rookies last year had the most success. Lets hope lightning strikes again. In PPR, I like Jackson,.He looked much better last year and I think he can split more carries with Grant this year

WR: In PPR, I love WR. But this format is 2-3 and RB still has emphasis. I really wanted Boldin or Jennings in round 2 but both went earlier than the other drafts as you guys all suck :goodposting: . I dont mind my core in the end. Holmes SB really hurt me as I had him in my predraft preparatioins for the 4.14 but that changed. I like Ward. Ginn should get more looks and will be okay. Chambers was the first pick that made me happy to see drop. I think Jackson will miss time with the personal conduct code and Chambers will step up. I thought he looked really good last year when healthy. Heres hoping Rice is a 3rd year breakout as he has talent. Hill could see more time in SF and Clayton is a guy I think might go to a nice situation. Kind of surprised at not hearing more. Maybe I am still living in the past. Arrington was my last pick. Austin Miles was thought about but went for the gusto with the top passing attack in the league. Meachum sucks, Henderson is gone so Arrington has a chance to shine.

TE: Gates is a stud. I guess I still better get a 2nd one. Some ideas in mind. I took Finley. Came on at last year. Gates goes down and so do I

PK: Hartley plays indoors on a high powered O. I have read some good stuff about him. I would have taken him like 10th overall. See guys that went ahead that I would never have touched. Need a 2nd. Ummm love taking a risk right here. Now which risk. I ended up with Dan Carpenter. Scobee was a good pick right afterwards I thought about also. Was going to take a rookie but could find no info.

D: Okay. I got the BEST D in all of WSL. Not much to say about 2 of the best ones out there.

Overall who knows how one does. I like my team despite nothing going the way I had planned for the 1st 5 rounds. I think it is an interesting team with alot of players who underperformed last year due to injury and hoping they all rebound. Well maybe not since I only own Edwards on my dynasty roster. I might own Beanie but it depends as I have rookie #3 and will have one of Crab, Beanie or Moreno. Just dont know which one :thumbdown:

 
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and about as perturbed as I was when you took Warrick Dunn at 16.15, Toads. ...I was patiently watching him fall, planning on scooping him up as my RB5 at the 17.10 or 18.07. You're going to be pleasantly surprised out of the amount of production you get out of Dunn this Season, as he's the closest there is to a 'sure thing' in the Bucs Offensive Backfield (IMO) - I predict a minimum 32 Receptions, minimum 600 Total Yards and minimum 4 Total TD's - he'll help you stay on the island at least one week, I'd wager.
For Dunn to fall to that point in the draft was a real gift. Not too many gifts in this deal.I agree with you about the unexpected. Leaving the 2-3 turn with out a top QB (as in Manning) was a mistake. I wanted to learn what was going to happen and that's a good way to do it.

Being on any turn in a 16 rounder is tough. You get to pick what player you want out of the next 30 players.....and, that's an interesting exercise in relativity.

:goodposting:
 
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I was "thisclose" to taking Dunn instead of Reggie Brown. Just couldn't pull the trigger. Should have.

 
Well, having missed on Dunn, I got me an oldie but goodie of my own - Freddy T. In the right situation (NE?), he's got value, and depending on how things shake out, there have to be at least 8-12 Teams that would benefit from an infusion of Fred to improve their lot. In Round 17, I'll take what he's got to offer.

 
Well, having missed on Dunn, I got me an oldie but goodie of my own - Freddy T. In the right situation (NE?), he's got value, and depending on how things shake out, there have to be at least 8-12 Teams that would benefit from an infusion of Fred to improve their lot. In Round 17, I'll take what he's got to offer.
That's a fantastic pickup. I was eyeing him, but have other needs...
 
Fubar'd again. Next draft I'm stayin' away from him,lol. I took Jennings to keep him away from some rb's and in particulary TJ Duckett and what does he do, takes Duckett. I was gonna take him coming back. Fooled again, he took Harrison as well. He must hate me ;) Since he's had the turn he's taken a lot of players I was planning on getting coming back. Foiled that strategy.Thanks a lot. ####ed my team up to hell and back. Just kiddin' ya Fubar. Good job of drafting at the turns buddy. Hats off to ya.

Took a chance on 2 rookies.Maybe one of 'em will play.

 
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Fubar'd again. Next draft I'm stayin' away from him,lol. I took Jennings to keep him away from some rb's and in particulary TJ Duckett and what does he do, takes Duckett. I was gonna take him coming back. Fooled again, he took Harrison as well. He must hate me :( Since he's had the turn he's taken a lot of players I was planning on getting coming back. Foiled that strategy.Thanks a lot. ####ed my team up to hell and back. Just kiddin' ya Fubar. Good job of drafting at the turns buddy. Hats off to ya.

Took a chance on 2 rookies.Maybe one of 'em will play.
:lol: The English teachers around here would slap you with a ruler. FWIW, I had Jennings pegged as my pick since Dunn was taken. You snatched him. :goodposting:

 

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