snogger
Footballguy
Depends on what part of Wisconsin you live in.Milwaukee/ Green Bay and Madison..
But over here in the Western part of Wisconsin the Rivalry between the Vikings and Packers is full blown
whereas Packers vs. Bears is 
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But over here in the Western part of Wisconsin the Rivalry between the Vikings and Packers is full blown
whereas Packers vs. Bears is 
jurrassic
Footballguy
I give more credit to Holmgren and McCarthy than I do to Favre.Mark Brunell, Kurt Warner, Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Rodgers have all served under Him as backups to Him. I'd say He's maybe the greatest QB mentor ever.Since when has Favre been a good teacher?Forget about all the emotion or hate between Vikings and Packers fans. From a pure football or FFL standpoint, having Favre around even for one year would teach the younger O-Linemen, WRs and TEs on the roster a great deal if they paid attention...not to mention what Jackson or even Rosenfels could gleen if Favre doesn't mind them following him around all the time.
He hasn't imo.
Man in the yellow hat
Footballguy
I'm with you on the Viking side. It makes a lot of sense. You have a chance to bring in a hall of fame QB, you do it. Especially when the learning curve will be so small. It's basically the same playbook he used most of his career. He could miss most of camp recovering from injury and still have the offense down.And let's all get over this rivalry crap.Rivalry is shaped not only by the teams, but proximity and family ties as well. I have close family in the twin cities, and they are huge Viking fans. You can bet Packer/Viking week takes on a whole new level of rivalry in my family. In fact, my dad and aunt have been betting dinner on those games since I was about five years old. Add to that, I went to college near the border of Wisconsin/Minnesota. A lot of Minnesotans there, and a very healthy rivalry on campus when it came to Packer/Viking week.I do agree that Bear week still holds the top spot, but I have a huge dislike for all things Viking, so it's pretty close for me.Of course, it'd probably be considered more legit if the Vikes actually had a super bowl win (sorry, had to get that jab in).Nicely put. I have that stance as well. From the Vikings perspective it does make sense. I don't think Favre is nearly the qb he used to be, but he is probably better than TJ or Sage. I do think that people who think Bevell or Childress can control him are going to be very disappointed. Favre has a right to do whatever he wants. It's unfortunate this is the way it is going down.I understand that sentiment, and would feel the same way if the tables were turned.And I'm completely serious about how I would view Favre if he does sign with Minnesota.When Favre was a boozed up drug hound, we defended him at all costs. He was ours. When Favre threw 5 ints and cost us playoff games. We defended him. That's just ol' Brett, playing the game. When Favre said he wanted no part of bringing Rodgers along, we defended him. That's not his job.Well, I can't defend this guy anymore, and haven't been able to for a while.What Brett fails to realize is that he's not just 'stickin it' to Ted Thompson, he's stickin it to the folks that drove 600 miles and over paid for preseason tickets just to watch him play a quarter so they could say they watched Favre at Lambeau. Or maybe he gets it and doesn't care. Either way, my opinion of him could not be lower right now.
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sho nuff
Footballguy
Those are not Packer fans.Sorry...if you drop your team because Favre is now a Viking and cheer for them...you are Favre fans first.funny you would say that.. I live in Wisconsin and of relatives and friends that I talked to that are packer fans 100% of them said if he signs with the Vikings they will be Viking fans for one year.. Lot's of
T Bell
Footballguy
Those guys have made careers out of riding Favre's coattails.I give more credit to Holmgren and McCarthy than I do to Favre.Mark Brunell, Kurt Warner, Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Rodgers have all served under Him as backups to Him. I'd say He's maybe the greatest QB mentor ever.Since when has Favre been a good teacher?Forget about all the emotion or hate between Vikings and Packers fans. From a pure football or FFL standpoint, having Favre around even for one year would teach the younger O-Linemen, WRs and TEs on the roster a great deal if they paid attention...not to mention what Jackson or even Rosenfels could gleen if Favre doesn't mind them following him around all the time.
snogger
Footballguy
Sorry, but come over to the western part of Wisconsin and tell me what is the biggest rivalry over here.. bears vs. Packers
or Packers vs. Vikings 
Sure, I'm a viking fan and I see that as our Rivalry.. But from Madison west I'd say the Packer vs. Viking rivalry is just as heated if not more so.
ScottyFargo
Footballguy
What a ridiculous simile that couldn't encapsulate your desire to deify your team any better if you tried. Good work, you've reached the next level of delusion.
snogger
Footballguy
Wouldnt that make them Favre fans rather than Packer fans?funny you would say that.. I live in Wisconsin and of relatives and friends that I talked to that are packer fans 100% of them said if he signs with the Vikings they will be Viking fans for one year.. Lot's of
it's jsut that a lot of them were at the way the Thompson forced Favre's hand. A lot of them feel he forced Favre to the Jets rather than Favre leaving to the Jets on his own.
gianmarco
Footballguy
Seriously, could you Packers/Vikings fan keep the pissing match in the other Favre thread you ruined? Discussing who are bigger rivals and whose feelings are gonna get hurt really has little to do with FAVRE MEETING WITH CHILDRESS. One thread was already polluted with the back and forth between some of you guys. I have no problem if you guys wanna duke it out, but can you keep it in one thread so that NFL fans of the other 28 teams not in the NFC North that are involved in fantasy football can actually discuss what's going on here and its future implications? TIA.
jurrassic
Footballguy
If Favre signs with the Vikings3,700 passing yards 24 tds 17 ints
T Bell
Footballguy
How much will Favre have?
Those are not Packer fans.Sorry...if you drop your team because Favre is now a Viking and cheer for them...you are Favre fans first.funny you would say that.. I live in Wisconsin and of relatives and friends that I talked to that are packer fans 100% of them said if he signs with the Vikings they will be Viking fans for one year.. Lot's offor favre still around in Western Wisconsin.
I can understand Packer fans having some allegiance with Favre last year as he was in the AFC. But I agree, you are not truly a Packers fan if you change allegiance in the NFC North so easily.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Warner didn't...he did not even make the team. Was never really his backup.How did Doug Pederson do? Detmer?
T Bell
Footballguy
I didn't say anyone could do it, chief.
simey
Footballguy
It's the Vikings Super Bowl every year to play the Packers??
I think it's obvious by the venom shown in this thread and others, that the Vikings are indeed a big rival of the Packers.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Sure...not everyone can...so maybe its more about the individual than it was Favre?Im sure he helped them on things...would never deny that...they all seem to freely admit it (outside of maybe Warner who should not be on that list)....but I don't think he is any super mentor.I didn't say anyone could do it, chief.
They had a good run of coaches who were pretty good with QBs (Holmgren, Mooch, McCarthy)
sho nuff
Footballguy
Just about the way some of the fans have acted (not necessarily from this board...but from others and it was nearly mentioned in this or the other thread that there are fans out there who don't care about the rest of the record as long as they beat GB). It was a comment that was a bit overboard.My venom is directed squarely upon Vikings fans acting like they know what Packer fans do and will think about this.It's the Vikings Super Bowl every year to play the Packers??
T Bell
Footballguy
I'm still waiting on the first QB that those guys developed without Favre's help . . . wait, are you a big John Kitna fan?Sure...not everyone can...so maybe its more about the individual than it was Favre?Im sure he helped them on things...would never deny that...they all seem to freely admit it (outside of maybe Warner who should not be on that list)....but I don't think he is any super mentor.I didn't say anyone could do it, chief.
They had a good run of coaches who were pretty good with QBs (Holmgren, Mooch, McCarthy)
jurrassic
Footballguy
How about Montana and YoungI'm still waiting on the first QB that those guys developed without Favre's help . . . wait, are you a big John Kitna fan?Sure...not everyone can...so maybe its more about the individual than it was Favre?Im sure he helped them on things...would never deny that...they all seem to freely admit it (outside of maybe Warner who should not be on that list)....but I don't think he is any super mentor.I didn't say anyone could do it, chief.
They had a good run of coaches who were pretty good with QBs (Holmgren, Mooch, McCarthy)
PatsWillWin
Footballguy
This thread turned awesome.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Lets see...While two of the biggest names he has worked with, Favre in Green Bay and Joe Montana in Kansas City, were at or beyond their peak years at the time, McCarthy has played at least a part in the development of signal callers Aaron Brooks, Jake Delhomme, Matt Hasselbeck, Marc Bulger, Rich Gannon and Elvis Grbac.That from his bio on Packers.comI'm still waiting on the first QB that those guys developed without Favre's help . . . wait, are you a big John Kitna fan?Sure...not everyone can...so maybe its more about the individual than it was Favre?Im sure he helped them on things...would never deny that...they all seem to freely admit it (outside of maybe Warner who should not be on that list)....but I don't think he is any super mentor.I didn't say anyone could do it, chief.
They had a good run of coaches who were pretty good with QBs (Holmgren, Mooch, McCarthy)
T Bell
Footballguy
coattails
Man in the yellow hat
Footballguy
Delhomme and Gannon are on record disagreeing with your comments. Here's some from Jake.http://www.620wtmj.com/internal?st=print&a...mp;path=/sports
While Delhomme had shown promise as an undrafted free agent out of Louisiana-Lafayette, he was reaching a critical juncture in his career after spending 1997 on the Saints' practice squad and the next two seasons as the team's third quarterback.
He'd also gone to NFL Europe during the '97 and '98 offseasons. Then McCarthy arrived and opened an offseason "quarterback school" in which he broke Delhomme down and rebuilt him into the quarterback who led the Panthers to Super Bowl XXXVIII in 2003 and made the Pro Bowl in 2005.
"I learned a ton from Mike. He was fantastic, an absolutely wonderful teacher," Delhomme said as he prepared to face McCarthy and the Packers at Lambeau Field on Sunday. "When he got there in 2000, I was football illiterate. ... He just made it to where that you just gained a bunch of knowledge so when you went out on the practice field or game field, you always felt extremely prepared."
millertyme1
Footballguy
Thread:
T Bell
Footballguy
Dead giveaway.Anyway, Delhomme said for himself that he was "illiterate", so I suppose any amount of knowledge was a step up for him.
Not convinced.
greggorymac
Footballguy
That's a pretty one-sided trade.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Phurfur
Footballguy
I have to agree with you on this.Depends on what part of Wisconsin you live in.Milwaukee/ Green Bay and Madison..
But over here in the Western part of Wisconsin the Rivalry between the Vikings and Packers is full blown
Phurfur
Footballguy
Mark Brunell, Kurt Warner, Matt Hasselbeck and Aaron Rodgers have all served under Him as backups to Him. I'd say He's maybe the greatest QB mentor ever.Since when has Favre been a good teacher?Forget about all the emotion or hate between Vikings and Packers fans. From a pure football or FFL standpoint, having Favre around even for one year would teach the younger O-Linemen, WRs and TEs on the roster a great deal if they paid attention...not to mention what Jackson or even Rosenfels could gleen if Favre doesn't mind them following him around all the time.
And the legend grows!
T Bell
Footballguy
Should we throw in one of the Dakotas? We've got some depth there.
T Bell
Footballguy
Not if you carve Gordy Howe and Peter Jennings into it.
tombonneau
Footballguy
JMon348
Footballguy
PlayoffsVikings vs Packers (Vikings lead series 1-0) IN GREENBAY
sho nuff
Footballguy
Biggest rivalary evah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
Arizona Ron
Footballguy
He plays the game the way it's suppose to be played.
T Bell
Footballguy
Intermittently?
JMon348
Footballguy
How many times have the Packers beat the Vikings in the playoffs?It rhymes with hero.
Biggest rivalary evah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
foxco
Footballguy
Is that the same number of SB trophies the Vikings have hoisted?How many times have the Packers beat the Vikings in the playoffs?
It rhymes with hero.
sho nuff
Footballguy
Maybe I wasn't going overboard with the talk of the Packer game being the Viking fan's Super Bowl.How many times have the Packers beat the Vikings in the playoffs?It rhymes with hero.
bonesman
Footballguy
Like when he went down for Strahan to hand him the single season sack record?! (though I still recognize M. Gastineau as #1 there)I'm a big Packer fan and even felt the organization did him wrong last offseason... but that one play soured me on Favre more than any of his un-retirement charades.
sho nuff
Footballguy
http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/44471057.html
Chilly headed south?
And will Booty give up the #4 for Brett?
Chilly headed south?
And will Booty give up the #4 for Brett?
ScottyFargo
Footballguy
He will if they give him the option to stick around.
millertyme1
Footballguy
sho nuff
Footballguy
JDB: Brett, it will cost you $xxxxx to get the #4.(Favre nods in Childress' direction)
BC: John, please clean out your locker and leave the facility.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Yes - the day I was mooned by Randy Moss. I think Favre threw more than his share to the purple guys that day. Overall I think they are both great rivalries and I am happy that all three teams have playoff aspirations this year. I wonder who Bear and Viking fans consider to be their most hated rival.I was discussing tickets with a friend this morning (having lost my season tickets last year after 15 years). When asked which game I wanted, there was no hesitation for me in taking the season opener against the Bears, but its a close call.
JMon348
Footballguy
If Kobe Bryant played for the Celtics I would be heartbroken too.Maybe I wasn't going overboard with the talk of the Packer game being the Viking fan's Super Bowl.How many times have the Packers beat the Vikings in the playoffs?It rhymes with hero.
