tdoss said:
I still feel the island was initially purgatory/limbo...Jack's eye closing was definitely mapped out from the beginning but you can't convince me that the initial intent wasn't that they were all dead all along...but because the entire internet picked up on that vibe early on...the writers had to scramble and come up with something else so they wouldn't be pinned down with their claim that the island was not purgatory and lose the viewers.
Agreed. Which is too bad.
Sorry guys, but I disagree completely. Did you guys watch the pilot again on Saturday? Just watch it again and watch the scene with Locke talking about backgammon as the world's oldest game and as light versus dark. Sure seems to mesh pretty damn well with the second to last episode of the entire series with Jacob/Samuel's ancient game they played which was obviously light versus dark. Throw in the polar bear, Sayid's remark about the compass not working a couple episodes in and Locke's encounter with smokey a couple episodes in and there are so many things they setup early on that didn't get explained until multiple seasons later.
How does Jacob/MIB's game change that island being limbo? I'm not saying everything was changed...they just created that side-step as a way around the island simply being limbo itself. Jacob/MIB was definitely a planned part of the show from the beginning...they were there...on the island as part of their limbo test.
Well, from your posts, you seem very upset with the ending and feel like you were bamboozled and that they completely changed the story line. I don't think that is the case and pointed out many things early in the show (probably filmed and edited before the internet craziness started) that appear to maintain the story with which the show ended.I get that you think that, but I want to know what you think changed. There has to be something you can point to where it seems like the story changed from being limbo all the time to being real life. How about all that season 3 stuff where they got off the island and involved people who were never on the crash, i.e. wouldn't be in purgatory with them? Seems like that would have been setup before the shot season 3, huh? Well, if they changed over, then season 2 would have had to have been the turning point, correct? Seems like the whole introduction of Ethan in season 1 and the rest of the Others kidnapping Walt wouldn't make any sense in purgatory, but make sense in real life. WTF is a Dharma hatch doing in purgatory? Pretty sure they didn't introduce that to start that whole story arc because of internet rumors.Also, I wasn't saying the game wasn't concrete proof, but that Locke's discussion with Walt was pretty solid proof to me (among other things) that they really weren't making things up and changing the entire story to suit rumors on the internet. Do you remember all of the other rumors? Purgatory was a rumor, it wasn't even close to the only one.