E Street Brat
Footballguy
The rumors about him went all the way back to his days at Central Catholic.
I went to North Catholic and and the rumors might have started there,
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I went to North Catholic and and the rumors might have started there,
Moe.
Footballguy
Boy was it ever, that thing was terrible. The USFL one wasn't very good either My favorite so is The Birth of Big Air, mainly because Matt Hoffman is from my hometown. The Two Escobars was pretty excellent as well.
Lol at Marquis Dupree. I like the way that sounds,.
General Malaise
Footballguy
Moe. said:
Glad I missed the Rotisserie one. Why doesn't ESPN have these On Demand for DirecTV users?
General Malaise
Footballguy
Yeah, uh...how far we go back, good buddy? My house could be a museum of 1990's technology for the kids to tour through.Most of the series can be streamed through Amazon Prime. Don't know if Netflix or Hulu has them.Glad I missed the Rotisserie one. Why doesn't ESPN have these On Demand for DirecTV users?
Moe.
Footballguy
Netflix does, Hulu does not.Most of the series can be streamed through Amazon Prime. Don't know if Netflix or Hulu has them.Glad I missed the Rotisserie one. Why doesn't ESPN have these On Demand for DirecTV users?
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Fiddles
Footballguy
Thanks!Most of the series can be streamed through Amazon Prime. Don't know if Netflix or Hulu has them.Glad I missed the Rotisserie one. Why doesn't ESPN have these On Demand for DirecTV users?
mr. furley
Footballguy
Marinovich was great. definitely unexpected for me. expected to really dislike the guy. came out just the opposite.General Malaise said:
The Gator
Footballguy
General Malaise
Footballguy
The ending was fantastic. Was not expecting that one...at all. They did a great job hiding it, IMO. Likewise, I had all this pre-conceived notions and expected not to like him; quite the opposite. I really hope he keeps the good life rolling along.
QuizGuy66
Footballguy
Yeah I'm with you on this one. The Two Escobars was amazing.Eephus said:
The Roto Baseball made we want to throttle all of them. Boomers at their most insufferable.
Liked Elway to Marino and they did a really good job with something that very easily could have been very dry in terms of a film. I love to hate on the Jets but calling O'Brien a whiff is completely unfair - his biggest crime is not being Marino and the notorious draft commentary from the Jets fan
Even most of the non-Hall of Famers in this first round were solid. I mean Dave Rimington was solid for the Bengals and even has the trophy for outstanding college center named after him.
-QG
Herren was my favorite as well. Right behind would be Once Brothers and Survive and Advance (Jimmy V). 9.79 and June 17, 1994 were excellent too.The Gator said:
I missed and really want to see Marinovich Project and Two Escobars. Actually looking at the list of 30 for 30s, there are quite a few I have missed.
koby925
Footballguy
Finally saw this last night. I hated Elway when I was a young kid but never really remembered why. Then I liked him as an adult at the end of his career. Watching this, I now remember why I didn't like him as a tike. My God he came off like a smug entitled ##### about the whole Colts situation. A kid acting like that would get crucified in the press and social media today. Geno Smith looks like a nice kid compared to how Elway was in 83.
roadkill1292
Footballguy
When Eli resisted being drafted by San Diego, it brought down the wrath of plenty on this board anyway.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
A 30 for 30 short: The Irrelevant Giant
Hope you guys can find ten minutes to watch that. It's pretty heavy.
Hope you guys can find ten minutes to watch that. It's pretty heavy.
Oof, make sure you done Kleenex at the ready
Rodeojones
Footballguy
Amen....great story. Didn't know that 30 For 30 had "short videos". Bookmarked the page.Steed said:
Johnnymac
Footballguy
mr. furley
Footballguy
saw Herren speak live today at a local'ish high school
pretty ####ing incredible. gmfb that guy.
pretty ####ing incredible. gmfb that guy.
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Smack Tripper
Footballguy
I really love the Two Escobars. Not only the best 30 for 30 IMO opinion, one of the better docs of any sort I've ever seen. Amazing glimpse into a slice of life and wonderful interplay of those two stories coming together
NutterButter
Footballguy
BroncoFreak_2K3
sucker for Orange
Penguin
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
Great one
Bob Magaw
Footballguy
just discovered the series with the great elway to marino episode few weeks ago...
thanx to the thread, started with some of the favorites, and they are mostly on netflix streaming, and youtube has a lot, too...
two escobars and survive and advance (nc state) were EASILY among best sports docs i've ever seen (and probably don't need the sports qualifier, just period, as others have noted upthread)... great subjects, great story telling and great production values (they were interviewing former columbian heads of state for 2 Es!!)...
the marcus dupree one (the best/greatest that never was) was also excellent, i don't recall being aware of him at the time, but he did have a short career... he looked like a pro playing against preps, like a combo of jim brown and eric dickerson...
the len bias (without bias) one was maybe my least favorite, maybe a few minutes were interesting in reminding me of how good he was, but didn't add a lot to what i already knew...
just started ali and holmes, most because i like co-director albert mayles, who with his brother, were among best american music documentarians i know of (did gimme shelter and first beatles visit)...
have most of them in netflix queue, looking forward to some of the others...
thanx to the thread, started with some of the favorites, and they are mostly on netflix streaming, and youtube has a lot, too...
two escobars and survive and advance (nc state) were EASILY among best sports docs i've ever seen (and probably don't need the sports qualifier, just period, as others have noted upthread)... great subjects, great story telling and great production values (they were interviewing former columbian heads of state for 2 Es!!)...
the marcus dupree one (the best/greatest that never was) was also excellent, i don't recall being aware of him at the time, but he did have a short career... he looked like a pro playing against preps, like a combo of jim brown and eric dickerson...
the len bias (without bias) one was maybe my least favorite, maybe a few minutes were interesting in reminding me of how good he was, but didn't add a lot to what i already knew...
just started ali and holmes, most because i like co-director albert mayles, who with his brother, were among best american music documentarians i know of (did gimme shelter and first beatles visit)...
have most of them in netflix queue, looking forward to some of the others...
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Big fan of the series and I agree with most of your takes except the first one - I just didnt' find the Elway/Marino draft story that compelling. That, and Elway came off like a total DB during the whole scenario...
roadkill1292
Footballguy
Finally got to see most of Pony Expre$$ last night, which was pretty amusing from a bunch of angles. First, it's amazing to someone from a non-football state to see those boosters lining up to throw money at kids. For what, to talk smack at the country club? Incredible.
Second, I thought "hey, we're almost at a point now where all that stuff would be ok to do." Bobby Collins, who replaced Ron Meyer at SMU, seemed almost blissfully unaware that his recruits were being purchased by the boosters; he just coached whoever showed up. Is that how it will be when players are free to earn income outside of the university? (Oh, yeah, it's coming) Or will the boosters try to take over the whole program? I think the battles for control of the product are gonna be epic.
Second, I thought "hey, we're almost at a point now where all that stuff would be ok to do." Bobby Collins, who replaced Ron Meyer at SMU, seemed almost blissfully unaware that his recruits were being purchased by the boosters; he just coached whoever showed up. Is that how it will be when players are free to earn income outside of the university? (Oh, yeah, it's coming) Or will the boosters try to take over the whole program? I think the battles for control of the product are gonna be epic.
Can't wait
Doctor Detroit
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This John Spano one is incredible. Basically this is an FBG buying a hockey team, awesome. Guy had a couple hundred grand and he bought the Islanders for $165 million. 
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
This guy is the best. He's the George Costanza of NHL owners.
Doctor Detroit
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I was living in Italy at the time, I missed all this. This is so awesome, basically some slightly above average shlub bought the Islanders and he nearly got away with it. Gary Bettman is so ####### stupid, if this doesn't prove it nothing ever will.
The Ref
Footballguy
This story is bleeping awesome.
I can't believe that all it would have took was to come up with ~$17M and he would have got away with it.
Doctor Detroit
Please remove your headgear
Man, all he had to do was get others to invest and give them a piece of the franchise. He couldn't find 8 Chet's at $2milllion a pop? Had I gotten that I far I would have closed the deal, but no way I could have pulled all those faxes off. Those machines hate my guts.
So the guy had to pay 17 million, sends a check for $1700 AND STILL GETS AWAY WITH IT. 
I am amazed that Gary bettman wanted this story to come out given how embarrassing this makes everyone look. I mean nobody looks good on it except the Spanos for getting away with this amazing ponzi scheme
I am amazed that Gary bettman wanted this story to come out given how embarrassing this makes everyone look. I mean nobody looks good on it except the Spanos for getting away with this amazing ponzi scheme
The Ref
Footballguy
Yeah - why couldn't he have gone back to Boston and get someone to loan him another $40M. Then you do everything you can to get more up front money out of the cable deal and start to work the stadium.So the guy had to pay 17 million, sends a check for $1700 AND STILL GETS AWAY WITH IT.
I am amazed that Gary bettman wanted this story to come out given how embarrassing this makes everyone look. I mean nobody looks good on it except the Spanos for getting away with this amazing ponzi scheme
mr roboto
Footballguy
This. In a ####### equipment leasing company in Ohio.He committed fraud again
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
How about Fleet Bank handing him the first $80 million.
Yep, these documents look good to us. Enjoy the team.
Yep, these documents look good to us. Enjoy the team.
Doctor Detroit
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Doctor Detroit
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I watch that show quite a bit, but never seen anything at this level. This is a North American Professional Sports franchise!!!
Doctor Detroit
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The thing is, had he #### the $17 million first payment, it might have been a good loan. I mean it sounds like the guy might have blown it on cocaine and whores, but he might have actually paid them back.
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