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Joe Bryant said:
My .02 on this. I live in Knoxville where Jimmy Haslam lives and built his fortune. Along with plenty of help from his Dad but make no mistake - this wasn't a deal where Dad (big Jim) made all the money and silver spoon son came along to inherit everything. Up until the pricing scandal with Pilot / Flying J, Jimmy was thought to be exceptionally gifted in everything related to running a big and successful company.

He has a reputation in the business world (again - up till the pricing scandal) of being outstanding. Even the pricing scandal wasn't entirely shocking as "ruthless" is not a word unfamiliar to how they run things. But it had always been more in a complimentary sense as in ruthlessly competitive and incredibly successful.

SO, he does have a super strong record of being wildly successful in business. Does wild success in the trucking / fuel service industry translate to success in owning an NFL team? That'll be the question we get to find the answer to. But it certainly doesn't hurt.

I will say this, when Haslam bought the team, I thought he'd be Robert Kraft with a Southern accent. Turns out so far, I couldn't be more wrong. So we'll see how this plays out. But my one takeaway from a local perspective is that he's proven to be super successful in running big business. And that's a plus.

J
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Thanks for that perspective Joe. I guess it will come down to how his lawyers perform, like most $$$ defendants.

(and the romanburger(s) were delicious...the weather, not so much)

 
Probably two teams to focus a little bit on. Ward/Byrd could be an interesting scenario. Already hearing Grossman rumblings.

Buffalo FAs:

Jairus Byrd Defensive Back 2014: Free Agent
Dan Carpenter Place Kicker 2014: Free Agent
Alex Carrington Defensive Lineman 2014: Free Agent
Mike Caussin Tight End 2014: Restricted Free Agent
Scott Chandler Tight End 2014: Free Agent
Jim Leonhard Defensive Back 2014: Free Agent
Arthur Moats Linebacker 2014: Free Agent
Mana Silva Defensive Back 2014: Restricted Free Agent
Thomas Welch Tackle 2014: Free Agent

Redskins FA:

Chris Baker Defensive Lineman 2014: Free Agent
Nick Barnett Linebacker 2014: Free Agent
E.J. Biggers Defensive Back 2014: Free Agent
Dezmon Briscoe Wide Receiver 2014: Free Agent
Fred Davis Tight End 2014: Free Agent
Reed Doughty Defensive Back 2014: Free Agent
London Fletcher Linebacker 2014: Free Agent
Rex Grossman Quarterback 2014: Free Agent

Rob Jackson Linebacker 2014: Free Agent

Bryan Kehl Linebacker 2014: Free Agent

Brandon Meriweather Defensive Back 2014: Free Agent

Josh Morgan Wide Receiver 2014: Free Agent

Santana Moss Wide Receiver 2014: Free Agent

Brian Orakpo Linebacker 2014: Free Agent

Perry Riley Linebacker 2014: Free Agent

Darryl Tapp Linebacker 2014: Free Agent

J.D. Walton Center 2014: Free Agent

Josh Wilson Defensive Back 2014: Free Agent

 
Just read that Lomardi is going to indy for the combine with the Pats, sounds like his position with them is a done deal now, no idea what the position is though

 
B-Deep said:
Just read that Lomardi is going to indy for the combine with the Pats, sounds like his position with them is a done deal now, no idea what the position is though
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Who cares. Did he even actually do any work here? Maybe Banner can follow him over there

 
Grossi's first mock.

Don't think the real NFL draft will play-out as he has it in this version but I think its very-possible that the two picks he has for the Browns 'could' be correct.

http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&action=blog&post_id=28971

Tony Grossi's Mock Draft 1.0: Browns tab a quarterback not named Johnny and a cornerback in first roundINDIANAPOLIS

For those who can’t get enough of the NFL draft, this is your year.

Because of a scheduling conflict with Radio City Music Hall in New York City, the NFL draft was moved into May for the first time. The draft will be held May 8-10, rather than in April, as has been custom for dozens of years.

The end result is the draft season has been extended two weeks. That means more speculation, more rumors, more disinformation, and more mock drafts.

Today we kick off draft season with our first mock draft. We will have a new version every Friday and then conclude with our final one on Thursday, May 8 – the day of the first round of the draft. That’s the one that will serve as our official prediction of the first round.

Until then, these mocks will trace the ups and downs of the draft process as the Browns, and other teams, meander their way to the finish line. Our mocks do not consider the possibility of trades. If trades occur prior to May 8, we will react accordingly.

1. Houston: QB Johnny Manziel, Texas A&M

He will win over new coach Bill O’Brien and energize the Texans' fan base.

2. St. Louis: OT Jake Matthews, Texas A&M

First shocker. Jeff Fisher will break in Bruce Matthews’ son at right tackle.

3. Jacksonville: DE Jadeveon Clowney, South Carolina

Second shocker. Jags go defense and plot to take a QB in second round.

4. Cleveland: QB Blake Bortles, Central Florida

In a squeaker, his size wins out. Big Blake joins the AFC North.

5. Oakland: QB Teddy Bridgewater, Louisville

Yes, it would be a big surprise if he slides to this spot.

6. Atlanta: OT Greg Robinson, Auburn

The Falcons couldn’t script this any better.

7. Tampa Bay: WR Sammy Watkins, Clemson

A future No. 1 to complement Vincent Jackson.

8. Minnesota: LB Khalil Mack, Buffalo

Maybe they’ve learned not to reach for a quarterback.

9. Buffalo: TE Eric Ebron, North Carolina

Time to support QB EJ Manuel with an intermediate target.

10. Detroit: CB Darqueze Dennard, Michigan State

This seems like a natural.

11. Tennessee: WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M

Ken Whisenhunt’s Larry Fitzgerald?

12. N.Y. Giants: OLB Anthony Barr, UCLA

Time for the G-men to replenish their defensive front seven.

13. St. Louis: WR Marqise Lee, Southern California

Their receivers are still awful.

14. Chicago: DT Louis Nix, Notre Dame

Don’t they always go for the Golden Domers?

15. Pittsburgh: FS Calvin Pryor, Louisville

Fills the hole left after aging Ryan Clark leaves in free agency.

16. Dallas: DT Timmy Jernigan, Florida State

The Cowboys' defensive front is an affront.

17. Baltimore: ILB C.J. Mosley, Alabama

There is a void in the middle of the Ravens’ defense that needs to be filled.

18. NY Jets: WR Kelvin Benjamin, Florida State

They are so desperate for a play-maker at receiver.

19. Miami: OT Zack Martin, Notre Dame

Let the rebuilding of the offense line – and locker room – commence.

20. Arizona: OT Taylor Lewan, Michigan

This isn’t brain surgery. They need offensive line help.

21. Green Bay: DT Rashede Hageman, Minnesota

Packers have issues on defense.

22. Philadelphia: FS Ha Ha Clinton-Dix, Alabama

What’s so funny?

23. Kansas City: WR Odell Beckham Jr., Louisiana State

Chiefs are desperate for receivers to make plays.

24. Cincinnati: DE Kony Early, Missouri

Bengals probably will lose pass rusher Michael Johnson in free agency.

25. San Diego: OT Cyrus Kouandjio, Alabama

More help needed on the offensive line.

26. Cleveland: CB Justin Gilbert, Oklahoma State

He would allow Buster Skrine to stay exclusively inside.

Feb 21, 2014 -- 9:15am

 
Really good podcast from former Browns scout breaking down the top rated QB prospects from this draft and what his opinion is of the Browns plans.

Very good listen, possibly the best I've come accross so-far pertaining to the Browns taking a QB with the top pick.

http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/2014/02/20/chris-landry-on-qbs-in-draft-none-of-them-are-ready-right-now-need-development/

Chris Landry on QBs in Draft: “None of Them Are Ready Right Now, Need Development”February 20, 2014 6:03 PM
 
B-Deep said:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/02/21/sources-browns-nearly-traded-for-jim-harbaugh/
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"Multiple league sources" tell Profootballtalk the Browns nearly acquired 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh in a trade before hiring Mike Pettine to replace Rob Chudzinski.
That would qualify as a bombshell. Per PFT, a deal that would have sent "multiple" draft picks to San Francisco was "in place" before Harbaugh decided he wanted to remain with the 49ers. If true, it would be a sign that tension between Harbaugh and GM Trent Baalke is worse than previously reported, and that extension talks have been going far from smoothly. Of course, Cleveland's interest could have been the impetus for the sides to get serious about reaching a new deal. PFT reported last week that the 49ers are hoping to extend Harbs' deal this offseason. He's currently signed through 2015. It's a fittingly-bizarre capper to the Browns' magical mystery tour of a coaching search.
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Um unless the NFL changed its rules, it a hoax.

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/01/17/Bucs/NFL_nixes_draft_picks.shtml

NFL nixes draft picks for coaches
Teams no longer can give up picks for compensation, like the Bucs did for Gruden.
By RICK STROUD, Times Staff Writer
© St. Petersburg Times
published January 17, 2003

TAMPA -- Jon Gruden led the Bucs to a franchise-record 12 victories, a division title and a berth in Sunday's NFC Championship Game against the Eagles. You would have to agree the trade Tampa Bay made with the Raiders for the rights to Gruden is an unqualified success.

Now such a deal is against league rules.

The league Thursday banned the type of trade that enabled the Bucs to sign Gruden. The new policy was announced in a memo to all 32 teams by commissioner Paul Tagliabue, league spokesman Greg Aiello said.

Tagliabue acted after the competition committee concluded that such coach-for-picks trades might be undermining the purpose of the draft.

The co-chairman of the competition committee is Bucs general manager Rich McKay, whose team has reaped the benefits of such a trade.

The Bucs ended a 36-day coaching search by trading two first-round picks, two second-round picks and $8-million to the Raiders for the rights to Gruden, who had a year left on his contract.

Three weeks ago, the Bucs attempted to receive compensation from the Cowboys for the rights to hire Bill Parcells, revealing the two-time Super Bowl-winning coach had signed a four-year contract to coach Tampa Bay a year ago.

But the contract never was submitted to the league office for approval and Tagliabue ruled no compensation was owed.

McKay declined comment Thursday.

The league's owners can decide whether to restore the right to trade draft picks for coaches at their annual meeting March 22-26 in Phoenix.

The league's new policy is not restricted to head coaches. It prevents draft picks from being used to sign anyone under contract with another team, including assistants, front-office personnel or scouts.

Gruden is the latest success story for teams that have been bold enough to package draft picks to hire coaches under contract with other teams.

In 1997, the Jets sent draft picks to New England to acquire the rights to Parcells. Two years later, Parcells led the Jets to the AFC Championship Game.

In 2000, the Patriots sent draft picks to the Jets to hire coach Bill Belichick, who was under contract. Last season, Belichick led New England to the Super Bowl XXXVI title.

This is not the first time the competition committee recommended the league reconsider its policy of swapping picks for coaches. Three years ago it presented its concerns to ownership about teams attempting to receive compensation for assistants.

After firing Tony Dungy and having Parcells renege on a deal to coach Tampa Bay and remain retired, Bucs owners targeted coaches under contract.

First, they offered the 49ers a package of undisclosed draft picks for the rights to Steve Mariucci, who ultimately walked away from an offer to become coach and general manager.

That prompted Bucs vice presidents Joel and Bryan Glazer to call Raiders general partner Al Davis and offer a king's ransom of top picks for the rights to Gruden.

Both teams benefited. The Raiders host Tennessee in the AFC Championship Game while the Bucs travel to Philadelphia for the NFC title game.

 
Bracie Smathers said:
Um unless the NFL changed its rules, it a hoax.

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/01/17/Bucs/NFL_nixes_draft_picks.shtml

NFL nixes draft picks for coaches
Teams no longer can give up picks for compensation, like the Bucs did for Gruden.
By RICK STROUD, Times Staff Writer

© St. Petersburg Times

published January 17, 2003

TAMPA -- Jon Gruden led the Bucs to a franchise-record 12 victories, a division title and a berth in Sunday's NFC Championship Game against the Eagles. You would have to agree the trade Tampa Bay made with the Raiders for the rights to Gruden is an unqualified success.

Now such a deal is against league rules.

The league Thursday banned the type of trade that enabled the Bucs to sign Gruden. The new policy was announced in a memo to all 32 teams by commissioner Paul Tagliabue, league spokesman Greg Aiello said.

Tagliabue acted after the competition committee concluded that such coach-for-picks trades might be undermining the purpose of the draft.

The co-chairman of the competition committee is Bucs general manager Rich McKay, whose team has reaped the benefits of such a trade.

The Bucs ended a 36-day coaching search by trading two first-round picks, two second-round picks and $8-million to the Raiders for the rights to Gruden, who had a year left on his contract.

Three weeks ago, the Bucs attempted to receive compensation from the Cowboys for the rights to hire Bill Parcells, revealing the two-time Super Bowl-winning coach had signed a four-year contract to coach Tampa Bay a year ago.

But the contract never was submitted to the league office for approval and Tagliabue ruled no compensation was owed.

McKay declined comment Thursday.

The league's owners can decide whether to restore the right to trade draft picks for coaches at their annual meeting March 22-26 in Phoenix.

The league's new policy is not restricted to head coaches. It prevents draft picks from being used to sign anyone under contract with another team, including assistants, front-office personnel or scouts.

Gruden is the latest success story for teams that have been bold enough to package draft picks to hire coaches under contract with other teams.

In 1997, the Jets sent draft picks to New England to acquire the rights to Parcells. Two years later, Parcells led the Jets to the AFC Championship Game.

In 2000, the Patriots sent draft picks to the Jets to hire coach Bill Belichick, who was under contract. Last season, Belichick led New England to the Super Bowl XXXVI title.

This is not the first time the competition committee recommended the league reconsider its policy of swapping picks for coaches. Three years ago it presented its concerns to ownership about teams attempting to receive compensation for assistants.

After firing Tony Dungy and having Parcells renege on a deal to coach Tampa Bay and remain retired, Bucs owners targeted coaches under contract.

First, they offered the 49ers a package of undisclosed draft picks for the rights to Steve Mariucci, who ultimately walked away from an offer to become coach and general manager.

That prompted Bucs vice presidents Joel and Bryan Glazer to call Raiders general partner Al Davis and offer a king's ransom of top picks for the rights to Gruden.

Both teams benefited. The Raiders host Tennessee in the AFC Championship Game while the Bucs travel to Philadelphia for the NFC title game.
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The league's owners can decide whether to restore the right to trade draft picks for coaches at their annual meeting March 22-26 in Phoenix.

maybe they restored it

:shrug:

 
I'd think if it was simply not allowed someone would point that out, Grossi is tweeting about this as is Rappaport, and neither have said it could not happen

now, the niners said BS:

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 2m
In response to @ProFootballTalk report on #Browns nearly trading for Jim Harbaugh, #Niners source calls it “completely false. Ridiculous.”

and it may be false, i don't think we'll ever know

interesting to think about though

 
B-Deep said:
Bracie Smathers said:
Um unless the NFL changed its rules, it a hoax.

http://www.sptimes.com/2003/01/17/Bucs/NFL_nixes_draft_picks.shtml

NFL nixes draft picks for coaches
Teams no longer can give up picks for compensation, like the Bucs did for Gruden.
By RICK STROUD, Times Staff Writer

© St. Petersburg Times

published January 17, 2003

TAMPA -- Jon Gruden led the Bucs to a franchise-record 12 victories, a division title and a berth in Sunday's NFC Championship Game against the Eagles. You would have to agree the trade Tampa Bay made with the Raiders for the rights to Gruden is an unqualified success.

Now such a deal is against league rules.

The league Thursday banned the type of trade that enabled the Bucs to sign Gruden. The new policy was announced in a memo to all 32 teams by commissioner Paul Tagliabue, league spokesman Greg Aiello said.

Tagliabue acted after the competition committee concluded that such coach-for-picks trades might be undermining the purpose of the draft.

The co-chairman of the competition committee is Bucs general manager Rich McKay, whose team has reaped the benefits of such a trade.

The Bucs ended a 36-day coaching search by trading two first-round picks, two second-round picks and $8-million to the Raiders for the rights to Gruden, who had a year left on his contract.

Three weeks ago, the Bucs attempted to receive compensation from the Cowboys for the rights to hire Bill Parcells, revealing the two-time Super Bowl-winning coach had signed a four-year contract to coach Tampa Bay a year ago.

But the contract never was submitted to the league office for approval and Tagliabue ruled no compensation was owed.

McKay declined comment Thursday.

The league's owners can decide whether to restore the right to trade draft picks for coaches at their annual meeting March 22-26 in Phoenix.

The league's new policy is not restricted to head coaches. It prevents draft picks from being used to sign anyone under contract with another team, including assistants, front-office personnel or scouts.

Gruden is the latest success story for teams that have been bold enough to package draft picks to hire coaches under contract with other teams.

In 1997, the Jets sent draft picks to New England to acquire the rights to Parcells. Two years later, Parcells led the Jets to the AFC Championship Game.

In 2000, the Patriots sent draft picks to the Jets to hire coach Bill Belichick, who was under contract. Last season, Belichick led New England to the Super Bowl XXXVI title.

This is not the first time the competition committee recommended the league reconsider its policy of swapping picks for coaches. Three years ago it presented its concerns to ownership about teams attempting to receive compensation for assistants.

After firing Tony Dungy and having Parcells renege on a deal to coach Tampa Bay and remain retired, Bucs owners targeted coaches under contract.

First, they offered the 49ers a package of undisclosed draft picks for the rights to Steve Mariucci, who ultimately walked away from an offer to become coach and general manager.

That prompted Bucs vice presidents Joel and Bryan Glazer to call Raiders general partner Al Davis and offer a king's ransom of top picks for the rights to Gruden.

Both teams benefited. The Raiders host Tennessee in the AFC Championship Game while the Bucs travel to Philadelphia for the NFC title game.
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The league's owners can decide whether to restore the right to trade draft picks for coaches at their annual meeting March 22-26 in Phoenix.

maybe they restored it

:shrug:
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what players did Oak get for Gruden?

 
B-Deep said:
Faust said:
Twitter:

Matt Maiocco ‏@MaioccoCSN

According to NFL’s Anti-Tampering Policy, clubs ARE permitted to trade draft picks or cash for "head coaches and high-level club employees."
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browns basher
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The rule was implimented after a couple of trades for NFL head coaches where the compensation kept growing to the point it got ridiculous with the Gruden deal.

This is what was referenced in the Matt Maiocco tweet.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2013-01-24/sports/chi-bears-askdan-20120124_1_columnist-answers-questions-bears-mailbag-phil-emery-interview

... Dan, I understand Phil Emery letting Dave Toub interview with other teams once he was eliminated from head-coach consideration. I don't understand letting him leave before announcing the new head coach, or finding out if Trestman might want to keep Toub. Toub is a proven, top-five coach in an area Bears fans know often decides games. The Bears need to get younger, and have only five draft picks this year. At the very least, shouldn't Emery have gotten some kind of compensation, even if just a seventh-round pick, for such a valuable asset? Why are the Bears helping K.C.? -- Mark Early, Arlington, Va.


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Toub did not want to stay in Chicago after being passed over for the head-coaching job. Emery was doing Toub a favor by letting him leave. But he also was protecting the best interests of the organization. Would you really want to force someone to work for you when he didn't want to and risk having a disgruntled employee? Getting compensation from the Chiefs was not an option. The NFL's Anti-Tampering Policy for 2012 says this about trade compensation: "Except for Head Coaches and High-Level Club Employees (club presidents, general managers, and persons with equivalent responsibility and authority), clubs are not permitted to exchange draft choices or cash for the release of individuals who are under contract to another organization."
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I have not been able to find any updates on the rule that was noted in the 2003 Saint Petersburgh Times article because, well it ain't there but Pompei says that he was referencing a copy of the 2012 'Anti-Tampering Policy' which would fly directly in the face of the 2003 rule which was well publicized and no NFL HC has been dealt since the time that rule was publically stated as NFL policy.

And their is the vehement denial by the Niners that Rappaport shared.

But PFT posted an unsubstantiated rumor so... ya know. It must be true right B-Deep? Even though the NFL had a rule in place after teams had raided other team's front offices and coaching staffs. The fact that teams would be talking to other NFL head coaches where this information could leak out and cause instabily seems to be a strong basis for the rule especially since it woudl piss off certain owners if their coaching staff and front offices got raided behind thier backs. Not a good idea to piss off billionaires and cause unrest so that rule made a lot of sense to me when it was announced and that is why I immediately recalled that rule.

I did a few searches to try and find if the rule had been replealed but I couldn't find it and I haven't seen anyone bring up proof that the rule had been replealed so the by-law of the Anti-Tampering Policy may be correct but I don't know what would take precidence if a rule conflicts with a by-law. And I doubt that anyone else would but AFIK that rule was never removed. If it has I can't find proof.

 
MAC_32 said:
Bracie Smathers said:
Um, we know who the Browns bashers are who swallow anything anti-Cleveland hoot-line-and-sinker but how about you drop it before you get more egg on your faces?

Ian Rapoport ‏ @ RapSheet 49s

In response to @ ProFootballTalk report on # Browns nearly trading for Jim Harbaugh, # Niners source calls it completely false. Ridiculous.
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so defensive.
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Great day for you Mac eh? You got to bash the Browns and get a shot in at me. Must be your birthday.

 
Bracie Smathers said:
MAC_32 said:
Bracie Smathers said:
Um, we know who the Browns bashers are who swallow anything anti-Cleveland hoot-line-and-sinker but how about you drop it before you get more egg on your faces?

Ian Rapoport ‏ @ RapSheet 49s

In response to @ ProFootballTalk report on # Browns nearly trading for Jim Harbaugh, # Niners source calls it completely false. Ridiculous.
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so defensive.
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Great day for you Mac eh? You got to bash the Browns and get a shot in at me. Must be your birthday.
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I bashed the browns? I bashed holmgren and heckert, but not the browns. Been pretty consistent on that since about game two of the shurmur era, who we hired instead of harbaugh. Haven't written anything bad about the new guts yet. I don't think anyway.Keep reading what you want to though. It's a goodlook.

 
Why is this story bashing the browns??

and

Did you read where I said this may not be true, and said IF?

you have a complex or something

I think it is an interesting discussion that does not bash the browns at all. If harbugh was possible going after him makes sense. I can go in most threads and have discussions on teams other than mine, but you are making this thread unbearable.

IF IF IF it was true i would expect nothing more than denials from the niners. IF IF IF it was true it was a smart effort by the browns and no shame in not pulling it off

IT MAY NOT BE TRUE NEITHER OF US KNOWS THAT

 
IF lombardi and banner thought they could land Harbaugh and IF they convinced haslam of this it COULD be why they fired chud and failing to gret harbaugh COULD be a major part of why those two jokers are gone

it would all fit

BUT

sometimes what seems to fit is not the truth. As I said, i doubt we will ever know, but it is interesting and fun to speculate about.

This could be nothing more than false leads or even Harbaugh's people leaking junk...it is impossible to know, unless you have already made up your mind that one thing paints the browns a certain way so the other must be true,.

 
I truly find it interesting for a number of reasons, none of which are for Brown's bashing.

I think it speaks to Harbaugh's relationship with the Niners brass/ownership.

It speaks to what lengths the Browns would go to land a guy they like.

It would be one of the biggest stories of the offseason.

I would absolutely expect the Niners to deny the story, since Harbaugh's still there and all.

 
B-Deep said:
IF lombardi and banner thought they could land Harbaugh and IF they convinced haslam of this it COULD be why they fired chud and failing to gret harbaugh COULD be a major part of why those two jokers are gone

it would all fit

BUT

sometimes what seems to fit is not the truth. As I said, i doubt we will ever know, but it is interesting and fun to speculate about.

This could be nothing more than false leads or even Harbaugh's people leaking junk...it is impossible to know, unless you have already made up your mind that one thing paints the browns a certain way so the other must be true,.
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I guess this timing may not work out, as they fired Chud before the playoffs, so there was still a chance the niners win it all, and then there is no way Harbaugh leaves

 
Hey Mac,

Go to the Shark Pool mock draft thread.

We're up and Soulfly3 can't make the pick.

I voted for Skov.

If you can bury the hatchet for a minute.

Skov can't cover but I can't find a ILB who fits so step-up and make the pick.

I've never seen you make any real supportive posts or want to so I'd like to see you join-in and participate for a change.

Fourth round, the picks already made in the first four rounds for the Browns are:

102 Browns

- WR Sammy Watkins, OG David Yankey, QB Jimmy Garoppolo, CB Marcus Roberson, RB Bishop Sankey

 
Dr. Octopus said:
I truly find it interesting for a number of reasons, none of which are for Brown's bashing.

I think it speaks to Harbaugh's relationship with the Niners brass/ownership.

It speaks to what lengths the Browns would go to land a guy they like.

It would be one of the biggest stories of the offseason.

I would absolutely expect the Niners to deny the story, since Harbaugh's still there and all.
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Perhaps he saw the "harbaugh did not want to go to cleveland" as bashing, but #### i assume there are not many places harbaugh wants to go (if any) as he has been a game away from the super bowl multiple times with his current team. That doesn't reflect poorly on the browns at all, if he gave it a moments thought at all it would reflect positively on them.

 
Of course the 49ers deny it.

You would think we would, too, but at this point........F it. We say what we want cause we cant look worse.

Haha, since I have said we couldn't look worse we have fumbled our coaching search, found out bess was crazy, and fired out GM and president. Though the last part helped.

 
I still haven't fond where they repleaded that well publicized 2003 rule and it made too much sense for them to reneg on that rule.

Could be the 'Anti-Tampering Policy' was never updated to reflect that rule and Pompei noted that it was only a 'by-law' within the 'Anti-Tampering Policy' so maybe it was just an editorial oversight.

I'm pretty sure the NFL rule is still in effect and that it would over-ride the by-law.

Also great pick in the Shark Pool mock Mac. :thumbup:

 
This sounds like something that a disgruntled Michael Lombardi planted in the media.

Why the hell would Haslam try to trade draft picks for a coach...

 
Bracie Smathers said:
I still haven't fond where they repleaded that well publicized 2003 rule and it made too much sense for them to reneg on that rule.

Could be the 'Anti-Tampering Policy' was never updated to reflect that rule and Pompei noted that it was only a 'by-law' within the 'Anti-Tampering Policy' so maybe it was just an editorial oversight.

I'm pretty sure the NFL rule is still in effect and that it would over-ride the by-law.

Also great pick in the Shark Pool mock Mac. :thumbup:
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just doesn't seem right, trading picks (players) for staff members. so you have a good position coach on the last yr of his deal and trade him off?

 
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