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I'm not against giving anyone a shot, even Kolb. The guy did show flashes in Philly. If the contract was right who knows. I am just not a big fan. I mean if you cannot be successful throwing to Fitz, what in the world are you going to do in Cleveland?
If they can move down to 6, 9, or 12 and get Reiff instead (with Martin as plan B) while adding a future 1 + more I think that is the right move for them. They have more needs than just a left tackle. A lot more.
The guy simply can't read the field. He never had to in high school, nor college, and what did he really do to show he made the transition in Philly?
Kolb shouldn't cost much after busting in AZ.
We get it, you like Griffin.
Hyperbole at its finest.
Kolb is a ####### train wreck.
No. Which is why RG3 won't work until Shurmur's gone. The flip side to that is Shurmur probably gets another year if we don't take RG3.Go with the talent, get RG3, watch Shurmur implode, then bring in someone to use him properly.Probably the best method. Which won't happen. We'll have our opportunity, pass, then watch Shurmur continue to be clueless on the sideline until this regime has run its course. Blow it up. Then start over again.Send in..the...Clowns...
By flashes I meant this... 2009-2010 in Philly...in the 7 games where he had over 20 att he had 3 300yd games and 4 with a QB rating of over 100. And to be clear he is not a guy I would prefer them bring in. I was just saying that if the contract was right I would not be upset with them giving him a roster spot.
No kidding. What are you going to do with yourself if RG3 is not a Brown come April? That Jersey you get from China is gonna look funny.
By the time RG3 is a good NFL QB he'll be a free agent and looking to get out of Cleveland. I don't think the Browns will ever have an elite QB and should stop trying to find one.
Or we get a repeat of Cam newton in season 1. Who knows. It could go either way. Why not take that risk when what we have now simply CANNOT get the job done.Yes, I love Griffin, no kidding. But I'm a Browns fan, first and foremost. And as a browns fan, I still think the most important piece to the puzzle is getting an elite, or potentially elite QB. If we pass on Griffin, who are we going to look at as elite QB in next years draft? Barkley, to me, is nowhere near the pedigree of Luck and griffin... nor do I see a QB of their pedigree for a good couple years
Are you kidding?! Losing is the BEST!
Very true. last two drafts have been solid....In Heckert we trust.
The only thing I don't like is intentionally creating holes and then having to fill them.West Coast Offense or not, there was no reason to let Vickers walk and draft Owen Marecic. I'd have much rather signed Vickers and used the 4th on trenches depth.Very true. last two drafts have been solid....In Heckert we trust.
This sounds exactly like a majority of Chargers fans in 2003.
Unfair to criticize Heckert over Hardesty because he got injured. Every GM is terrible by that standard. They all draft players high that suffer major injury.
You're talking about rookies and 2nd year players that are still being developed. They also missed one entire off season of work. Of course they're going to have "warts." Look at it this way...In 2009 the Browns D ranked 31st overall (29th pass, 28th rush) and ranked 21st in points allowed.'MAC_32 said:
I really hope the city gives them a big giant F U! You know how many millions this team is still paying ex-coaches and ex-GMs? So ridiculous.'Bobcat10 said:
We were furious the last time the Browns left. This time, maybe not so much. Let the Browns go to LA and let the Rams come back here. That way we get our franchise QB and a competent coach.'Bobcat10 said:
Yeah let's voluntarily swap our team with one of the three other teams that is worse than us!
I don't think I need to tell you that that comment was completely made in jest. Lighten up, Francis.Yeah let's voluntarily swap our team with one of the three other teams that is worse than us!
EXACTLY! I hope they don't do the same thing with Hillis.The only thing I don't like is intentionally creating holes and then having to fill them.West Coast Offense or not, there was no reason to let Vickers walk and draft Owen Marecic. I'd have much rather signed Vickers and used the 4th on trenches depth.Very true. last two drafts have been solid....In Heckert we trust.
From everything I've read, I think that they are hoping that Jordan Cameron is ready to make enough strides to see significant playing time. He certainly looks the part.
That is the BEST news I've heard all year! Grossi is a bum. If only Brian Windhorst covered the NFL and was still at the PD...
:greatposting: Grossi is a tool. Windhorst is outstanding.
Grossi's an arrogant doosh. Won't miss him at all.
He might be all those things, but he got a raw deal here. Wonder who will replace him? Lord knows it won't just be Cabot.Still, those are some pretty strong words from somebody who is dialed into Berea more than most.
nice. I really miss the local sports radio from up there. It's a pretty sad state of affairs for sports radio here.Oh man, I just listened to Hooley and Brinda on WKNR whine and ##### and moan about this move... that alone makes it worth it.The best part was when they were like, "Who knows who Grossi was talking about?! He never said Randy's name!". So Grossi gets the (bizarre) benefit of the doubt. Then, they talk about how Randy is clearly behind this. Obviously he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt for their fun little conspiracy theory.
iphone or droid gets you all of it back.nice. I really miss the local sports radio from up there. It's a pretty sad state of affairs for sports radio here.Oh man, I just listened to Hooley and Brinda on WKNR whine and ##### and moan about this move... that alone makes it worth it.The best part was when they were like, "Who knows who Grossi was talking about?! He never said Randy's name!". So Grossi gets the (bizarre) benefit of the doubt. Then, they talk about how Randy is clearly behind this. Obviously he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt for their fun little conspiracy theory.
Just type in WKNR and you can listen on the internet.nice. I really miss the local sports radio from up there. It's a pretty sad state of affairs for sports radio here.Oh man, I just listened to Hooley and Brinda on WKNR whine and ##### and moan about this move... that alone makes it worth it.The best part was when they were like, "Who knows who Grossi was talking about?! He never said Randy's name!". So Grossi gets the (bizarre) benefit of the doubt. Then, they talk about how Randy is clearly behind this. Obviously he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt for their fun little conspiracy theory.
agree...but his arrogance finally caught up to him
I'm in SC and that's what I do. Between that and the TuneIn app listen to WKNR or The Fan in Columbus all day longJust type in WKNR and you can listen on the internet.nice. I really miss the local sports radio from up there. It's a pretty sad state of affairs for sports radio here.Oh man, I just listened to Hooley and Brinda on WKNR whine and ##### and moan about this move... that alone makes it worth it.The best part was when they were like, "Who knows who Grossi was talking about?! He never said Randy's name!". So Grossi gets the (bizarre) benefit of the doubt. Then, they talk about how Randy is clearly behind this. Obviously he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt for their fun little conspiracy theory.
Thank you Al Gore
Good deal. Thanks guys. We pretty much just get the syndicated stuff here. Mike&Mike and Cowlherd. 12-3 is great with the David Glenn show but those Donks that come on at 3 are just awful. Thank God Cam Newton is here so we actually get to listen a little talk of football. Otherwise its just UNC/Duke basketball.'beer 30 said:I'm in SC and that's what I do. Between that and the TuneIn app listen to WKNR or The Fan in Columbus all day long'Fensalk said:Just type in WKNR and you can listen on the internet.'eric rymer said:nice. I really miss the local sports radio from up there. It's a pretty sad state of affairs for sports radio here.'nxmehta said:Oh man, I just listened to Hooley and Brinda on WKNR whine and ##### and moan about this move... that alone makes it worth it.The best part was when they were like, "Who knows who Grossi was talking about?! He never said Randy's name!". So Grossi gets the (bizarre) benefit of the doubt. Then, they talk about how Randy is clearly behind this. Obviously he doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt for their fun little conspiracy theory.
Given Hardesty's checkered history coming into the league, no, it's not unfair to criticize him for that pick.
