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On 9/25/2019 at 3:52 PM, MAC_32 said:

3 weeks in it's show-me, don't tell-me. At this point I need to see it before I believe it. 

:eek: :homer: :suds: :excited: :thumbup: 

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After watching that it's real hard to say Monken wasn't the problem. 

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Huge win today the difference between tied for 1st and a leg up on the tie breaker and being buried down 2 games and losing tie breaker with a tough schedule coming up.

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CLEVELAND, Ohio – We interrupt the Baker Mayfield-Rex Ryan feud – or is it the Baker Mayfield-Antonio Brown feud? – to bring you this breaking news: the Browns defeated the Ravens on Sunday, 40-25.

The offense showed improvement. The defense continued to overcome missing pieces. And now the Browns are tied for first in the AFC North.”

 

Lets be clear:  The Browns are 1-0 in division and have the tie-breaker over the Ravens. 

They are not in a “tie” for first place, they are IN FIRST PLACE IN THE AFC NORTH. 

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this may not last, but let’s enjoy this moment, everyone.  

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if only the playcalling was better even just on that final possession last week... We're 3-1 easily

But I'll take the growing pains. This is real nice. 

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1 minute ago, Soulfly3 said:

if only the playcalling was better even just on that final possession last week... We're 3-1 easily

But I'll take the growing pains. This is real nice. 

if they keep getting better every week... multiple playoff runs over the next ten years.   let’s not worry too much about this season. 

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While obviously I’m stoked we won, I’m really glad the noise will quiet down a bit about the Ravens. 

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I didn’t get to see the game, did anyone notice if Corbett got any playing time and if so how he did?

I keep holding out hope that he will be salvaged but I am losing hope! 

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This was the first game in Browns history they had a 300-yard passer (Baker Mayfield), 150-yard rusher (Nick Chubb) and 150-yard receiver (Jarvis Landry), according to Elias Sports Bureau.

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More later but that was a great team win, everyone came to play yesterday. Does 40 pts count as a curb stomping?

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6 minutes ago, beer 30 said:

More later but that was a great team win, everyone came to play yesterday. Does 40 pts count as a curb stomping?

Edward Norton nods approvingly 

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even obj in a good mood despite only 20yds. he knew what the gameplan was.

choked out in front of a ref (no call)... not much action... still teammating. 

this club has a lot of potential. every one wants to be here.

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1 hour ago, Soulfly3 said:

even obj in a good mood despite only 20yds. he knew what the gameplan was.

choked out in front of a ref (no call)... not much action... still teammating. 

this club has a lot of potential. every one wants to be here.

he was being held almost every play.  

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22 minutes ago, amnesiac said:

he was being held almost every play.  

literally in front of the refs each time. it was an abomination

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Always happy to see the Ravens get clobbered, think Chubb showed the way to win, they need to rally around Chubb and use him to open up explosive down field passes which eventually will appear as defenses try and stop Chubb. 

You don't go from 1-31 to the Super Bowl overnight, they're learning on the fly, give them time, still fun to watch all this young talent and unfortunately they had become a media pile on past couple weeks. 

Dawg Pound should be in full force. 

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3 minutes ago, beer 30 said:

Saw this early on in the game and damned if they weren't spot on. Great observation by the Orange & Brown Report, good follow if you're not.

https://twitter.com/TheOBR/status/1178360927764262912

Its a great tweet, sharing the text.

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Orange and Brown Rpt‏ @TheOBR

Many have noted it but Siebert's kickoffs have been close to perfect. Right at the goal line so instead of them getting the ball at the 25 after a touchback, they are at the 21. Not huge but it is something especially when flags on returns are so prevalent

10:28 AM - 29 Sep 2019

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Four yards per kickoff doesn't seem like much but it adds up and both rookie kickers have made big contributions along with the new ST coach, props.:bow:

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Chubb has Superman vision.  What superpowers does he not have?  Total package RB.  

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If the Browns can find a way to win one of the next two games (at SF, vs Sea), they can get to 3-4 (figuring they lose to NE), and then the schedule eases up big time the rest of the way.  Not like any game is a gimme with a team as green as the Browns still are, but they'd likely be favored to win most of their last nine games. 

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4 minutes ago, Ghost Rider said:

If the Browns can find a way to win one of the next two games (at SF, vs Sea), they can get to 3-4 (figuring they lose to NE), and then the schedule eases up big time the rest of the way.  Not like any game is a gimme with a team as green as the Browns still are, but they'd likely be favored to win most of their last nine games. 

San Francisco is 3-0, but two of those wins are against 0-3 Pittsburgh and 0-3 Cincinnati, so they might not be as good as their record.

Seattle is traveling east to play in Cleveland, which is always a challenge for west coast teams. 

so picking up one of those two is not out of the question. 

i would also count a loss at Foxboro.  the Patriots are just too well coached to lose to a young team at home. 

the Browns have a legitimate chance to go 4-2 or better in the AFC North. 

getting a wild card berth and getting some playoff experience in Mayfield’s second year would be huge for this team’s development.  

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if we can't beat SF....  their record means nothing to me, actually. beat teams in complete and total disarray. we just slapped a top 5 team

must win. no excuses.

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SF is not a must win. Build off last week and we will win at least one of the two before the bye. That's all we need. If we get both, great. Not a need though. 

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21 hours ago, Bobcat10 said:

Chubb has Superman vision.  What superpowers does he not have?  Total package RB.  

Before the game started, they were displaying "historical" NFL stuff & I was wondering how Chubb would have fared if he & Jim Brown swapped eras.  Would he have put up the same  numbers?  Better?  #32 is pretty sacred in these parts, but I wonder...

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1 hour ago, Soulfly3 said:

we just slapped a top 5 team

nah

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11 hours ago, amnesiac said:

San Francisco is 3-0, but two of those wins are against 0-3 Pittsburgh and 0-3 Cincinnati, so they might not be as good as their record.

Seattle is traveling east to play in Cleveland, which is always a challenge for west coast teams. 

so picking up one of those two is not out of the question. 

i would also count a loss at Foxboro.  the Patriots are just too well coached to lose to a young team at home. 

the Browns have a legitimate chance to go 4-2 or better in the AFC North. 

getting a wild card berth and getting some playoff experience in Mayfield’s second year would be huge for this team’s development.  

The Browns have the talent to beat SF and Seattle.   If the Browns are patient on O and stick with Chubb, they can beat NE.    NE is a very good team but not unbeatable.  

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2 hours ago, Bobcat10 said:

nah

Nah? The #1 offense in the league headed into the match w us, they were nearly unstoppable

Media was already crowning Lamar the 2nd coming of christ

They were 100% a top 5 team until we clapped them

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5 minutes ago, Soulfly3 said:

Nah? The #1 offense in the league headed into the match w us, they were nearly unstoppable

Media was already crowning Lamar the 2nd coming of christ

They were 100% a top 5 team until we clapped them

Stats don’t always tell the complete story especially at the start of the season playing the dreds of the league. If you want to frame your argument that way and listen to the media (lolz), ok...I’ll just disagree. 

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2 minutes ago, Bobcat10 said:

Stats don’t always tell the complete story especially at the start of the season playing the dreds of the league. If you want to frame your argument that way and listen to the media (lolz), ok...I’ll just disagree. 

The same that media that still gargle garbage like team X is 22-1 when they attempt 30+ rushes in a game.

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40 minutes ago, beer 30 said:

Amazing that people feel the need to defend either one of the players. Forcing both fists into one’s neck while holding the jersey is most definitely a choke. You don’t have to wrap your hands/fingers around someone’s neck to choke them. 

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5 minutes ago, Bobcat10 said:

Amazing that people feel the need to defend either one of the players. 

Most people prefer to talk about drama than actual football. I'll never understand most people.

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48 minutes ago, daveR said:

Before the game started, they were displaying "historical" NFL stuff & I was wondering how Chubb would have fared if he & Jim Brown swapped eras.  Would he have put up the same  numbers?  Better?  #32 is pretty sacred in these parts, but I wonder...

Why Jim Brown Matters

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... Brown towered over the league, a physical and intellectual force like none other in American sports history, at the peak of his powers.

Time magazine had featured “Jimmy” Brown on its cover. The accompanying story was burdened by the awkward, race-tinged prose of the time, including the headline—“Pro Football: Look at Me, Man!”—and a description of Brown as “…. a fire-breathing, chocolate-colored monster...” Beneath all that, however, the story pushed forward an earnest agenda: to establish that Brown was the best football player in the world and quite possibly the best in history. 

 

Chubb is fantastic but ...  

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1 hour ago, Soulfly3 said:

Nah? The #1 offense in the league headed into the match w us, they were nearly unstoppable

Media was already crowning Lamar the 2nd coming of christ

They were 100% a top 5 team until we clapped them

It's comical how they touted him as the next great thing after he got to play the 2 worst pass defenses in the league.

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So are we to sit here and believe that Jim Brown, using 1950s nutrition and training techniques, most likely not training anywhere near as much as modern athletes, was just such a freak of nature that he would step into the league today and just dominate?  And that some of the guys today couldnt go back in time and dominate just as much?

Wake up people

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3 hours ago, ghostguy123 said:

So are we to sit here and believe that Jim Brown, using 1950s nutrition and training techniques, most likely not training anywhere near as much as modern athletes, was just such a freak of nature that he would step into the league today and just dominate?  And that some of the guys today couldnt go back in time and dominate just as much?

Wake up people

He was a phenomenal athlete at 6'1", 232 lbs. -- a generational talent without question.  I'm not sure why he wouldn't train like modern athletes today.  Imagine him with advanced training!  WoW!!!  He was one of the few I've seen that was dominant.  Lawrence Taylor was another.

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8 hours ago, Bobcat10 said:

Stats don’t always tell the complete story especially at the start of the season playing the dreds of the league.

Not sure why the other team's hair styles matter?

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16 hours ago, daveR said:

He was a phenomenal athlete at 6'1", 232 lbs. -- a generational talent without question.  I'm not sure why he wouldn't train like modern athletes today.  Imagine him with advanced training!  WoW!!!  He was one of the few I've seen that was dominant.  Lawrence Taylor was another.

He was what LeBron was to the NBA in his day. Jim Brown was as big as most lineman and ran as fast as WR.

14 hours ago, DallasDMac said:

Not sure why the other team's hair styles matter?

We are very cognizant of opposing team's hair styles, it's a "new" Browns thing.

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Browns face off against a unique passer in Jimmy Garoppolo

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...Jimmy Garoppolo. Since being traded to the 49ers, Garoppolo has played in 12 regular season games ...

...Garoppolo stands out because he's a remarkably accurate quarterback, near the top of the league in completion percentage and yards per attempt, but he also throws interceptions at a high rate. Despite completing 67.9 percent of his passes in the second half of 2017 and the first three games of 2019, his interception rate has gotten worse each season, going from 2.8 percent in 2017 to 3.4 percent in the three games he played in 2018 to now 4.8 percent so far in 2019.

No other quarterback over the past three seasons quite has those kind of numbers. For all of his accuracy, which is terrific, he has just 17 touchdowns to 12 interceptions. ...Pressure could certainly tilt that more in the Browns favor, but Garoppolo doesn't take a ton of sacks. The presence of Myles Garrett over an undrafted rookie tackle might have him get the ball out quicker, but he's only taken two sacks this season.

...The winner of the turnover battle likely goes on to win the game.

 

Jimmy looks right for the pick'n and we 'might' get CB Denzel Ward and CB Greedy Williams back for this one.

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1 hour ago, beer 30 said:

 

We are very cognizant of opposing team's hair styles, it's a "new" Browns thing.

advanced analytics. 

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