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Curious....you think Dorsey left on his own accord? Do you think Dorsey wasn't at fault? I think Haslam was tired of watching a sinking ship. Dorsey was supposed to fix it, and instead he sabotaged it for his own ego.
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Eh. News comes from all areas/outlets these days. Take it for what you will. But it falls in line with Dorsey's previous actions/attitudes reported by the more mainstream outlets, if that is your preference. Do you recall this neat tidbit from Sam Wickersham's ESPN article on the Browns, Haslam, and Dorsey taking the regins?
Or this great quote....
The info has been out there, for awhile. It's now starting to be pieced together. You can color yourself as you will. I'm just bringing some new views/info that tend to get overlooked.
Dorsey got better players than any GM since the return, two decades and he is clearly the best talent evaluator. You can prove me wrong by showing who got a franchise QB, the most talented RB duo and the most talented WR dou.Eh. News comes from all areas/outlets these days. Take it for what you will. But it falls in line with Dorsey's previous actions/attitudes reported by the more mainstream outlets, if that is your preference. Do you recall this neat tidbit from Sam Wickersham's ESPN article on the Browns, Haslam, and Dorsey taking the regins?
Or this great quote....
The info has been out there, for awhile. It's now starting to be pieced together. You can color yourself as you will. I'm just bringing some new views/info that tend to get overlooked.
Dorsey to blame instead of Kitchens for the record and Dorsey to blame for the structure of the organization instead of Haslam. Because Cam from Canada has a twitter account where nearly every post is an attack on Dorsey. I mean come on. The article you linked spells out who to blame for basically everything but especially for the organization because ya know he owns the team and he sets up his organization so he is responsible just like Freddie was responsible for the calls and not OC he refused to listen to.
You keep harping on Dorsey. OK.
Should go well.
Personally, I think the whole entire process was ####ed from the beginning. Dorsey with the ego, Freddie being inexperienced, Monken being shoved on Dorsey....it was all a total ####show that presented itself on the field. We're just now hearing all the stories from different areas. Fully agree that Dorsey brought in a bunch of talent. No doubt or criticism from me on that point. I just don't think he knows how to communicate/manage a team. Great talent evaluator, but not the greatest GM, IMO.
He's saying the right things - it all comes back to letting processes guide decision making. Had they done that before they'd have drafted Bridgewater instead of Manziel. Hired McDermott instead of Hue. Stefanski instead of Freddie. Etc.
1. So you bail on the first interview you have to do a presser. Seems really unprofessional to me but that's me picking nits.
Ha! I'm not sure. Reading his tweets and Robinson's tweets, they are still trying to fit McDaniels into the HC role- yet they are also contradicting themselves. The "everyone reports to Haslam" line has one stating McD won't like that and it would rule him out. Yet follows up with, well if he gets to choose the GM does it matter?
It wouldn’t be a Browns shakeup in 2020 if I didn’t go back to McD-Caserio. Feels to me like that’s where we’re headed this time. Even if McD fails miserably like some think, it would be the best hire since the Haslems bought the team. Worth a shot imo.
I'm only laughing because the Jets basically did B last year. And then the incompetent GM proceeded to essentially blow the draft like every draft he'd ever done with the Jets, leaving the nuggets of gold completely sifted.
Last time I recall this was the Mangini/Kokinis arrangement of 2009. Granted this was just before Haslam came into the picture. So Rich-boy Randy was still running the team then. More concerned with a failing soccer club he bought vs the Browns he inherited. But whatever.
So based on that timeline, I'd come back in 10 years, not 2.
Pettine didnt get hired til February, that fiasco is what led to Banner/Lombardi getting canned then Farmer was elevated.
If any are on OBR, LA is dropping some knowledge on the previous HC. Dorsey had his hands on him for sure, but Kitchens did nothing to help himself.
Brown was appointed immediately upon Pettine/Farmer getting canned. He was a part of the team that wanted McDermott, but was over ruled by Jimmy and we got Hue.
The truth being laid out there this morning justifies paying for the subscription. The crowd carrying the fiery pitchforks in the name of Freddie are right. And so are those that said Dorsey was the bigger problem, he enabled this mess. He went against the rest of the room and said hire this man then despite the disaster happening right in front of him not only stood by his side, sustained his stance that he was going to stick with him. And that's just scratching the surface.
#### who knows with this circus. They have what? 7 scheduled interviews? Most of which will be complete by this weekend...except for McDaniels I think. Everything I've heard is Dee wants McDaniels but if they get blown away by someone before then they can offer them the job. Sounds like they are committed to interview everyone though so I doubt you see anything until McDaniels can interview.
Yea i think so. He has a windows because of playoffs, winning, playoffs, whatever. I think that makes him the last candidate to interview for the Browns.
it could limit the talent pool available for him to select coordinators.
That is two questions.
Amy TraskVerified account @AmyTraskMAC_32 said:
Fair point. That's why Haslem used his final say and total control to get rid of both of them.
Joe BannerVerified account @JoeBanner13Fair point. That's why Haslem used his final say and total control to get rid of both of them.
