What flaws does he have that aren't correctable?i believe his flaws are not correctable, and are in fact fatal for his NFL career.
he does have a good arm, i'll admit that.
yes, Norv is going to try to make chicken salad the rest of the season, but Weeden is ####.
give me Hoyer on one leg seven days a week over Weeden. .
neck up, won't allow him to fix any of his problems, which is everything except for a big arm. To be fair, with that many problems even a player with a good head on his shoulders probably couldn't fix them all.What flaws does he have that aren't correctable?i believe his flaws are not correctable, and are in fact fatal for his NFL career.
he does have a good arm, i'll admit that.
yes, Norv is going to try to make chicken salad the rest of the season, but Weeden is ####.
give me Hoyer on one leg seven days a week over Weeden. .
Weeden locks on to his primary receiver, he did that again on Thursday. He does not go through the progression well at all, panics and throws it away. No mobility, typically can't teach or correct that. Just not good enough to ever be an elite QB.neck up, won't allow him to fix any of his problems, which is everything except for a big arm. To be fair, with that many problems even a player with a good head on his shoulders probably couldn't fix them all.What flaws does he have that aren't correctable?i believe his flaws are not correctable, and are in fact fatal for his NFL career.
he does have a good arm, i'll admit that.
yes, Norv is going to try to make chicken salad the rest of the season, but Weeden is ####.
give me Hoyer on one leg seven days a week over Weeden. .
For FF redraft purposes there are very few teams he could go to that would place him in a better situation than he is in at Cleveland, so it's not the worst situation either way. Plus, him and Cameron are about the only thing that make the Browns watchable this year--so there's that.interesting that the "trade gordon" rumors are heating up again. hope they don't and josh can keep his head on straight. as a FF owner i'd love to see him in DET or another / better offense, but as a browns fan, we need him.
pretty much, without him focus on bush then make someone else beat you. As long as weeden doesn't #### the bed should win.With Calvin...changes everything. Then I think we rely too much on weeden who cracks vs Detroit's menacing front four.this game p. much hinges on calvin's health imo
reports from the locals are that he is pretty close to playing this week. true GTD thoughWould be nice if Calvin sits this week to heal up and be 100% next week against Cincinnati
depends on Calvin, Cleveland struggles with speed backs but that issue can be masked if it's primarily single coverage outside.I'm trying to believe in Reggie but after he did very little without Calvin in the lineup last week, I see his upside pretty limited against the Browns. Would be dumb to start a Marcel Reece over him but ticks me off that I'm thinking about it. Are the Browns capable of taking Reggie completely out of the game?
I have a gut feeling that Detroit WR Calvin Johnson isn't going to play.I'm trying to believe in Reggie but after he did very little without Calvin in the lineup last week, I see his upside pretty limited against the Browns. Would be dumb to start a Marcel Reece over him but ticks me off that I'm thinking about it. Are the Browns capable of taking Reggie completely out of the game?
Boy, I hope you're right about Calvin not going. That makes this game very winnable. While not an overall great defense, the Lions D-line is going to be a big test for the Browns O-line. I'm hoping the long break helped. Great to have Sheard back.I have a gut feeling that Detroit WR Calvin Johnson isn't going to play.I'm trying to believe in Reggie but after he did very little without Calvin in the lineup last week, I see his upside pretty limited against the Browns. Would be dumb to start a Marcel Reece over him but ticks me off that I'm thinking about it. Are the Browns capable of taking Reggie completely out of the game?
Reports are he was/is having trouble cutting to his left and the Lions have stated they 'won't put him out there as a decoy.'
I have been following everything written on whether or not he'll play.
He's not 100%, he can't cut to his left, this isn't a divisional or conference game and its pretty early in the season for Calvin to risk making this a long(er) term nagging injury. It seems the Lions are putting pressure on the backup WRs to step-up so I just don't see him going Sunday.
Per Lions RB Reggie Bush.
He is explosive and can take it the distance on any play but he faces only six in the box when Calvin plays which opens up things for him but if he gets crowded near the LOS he can be contained.
He is a test for any defense but if Calvin can't go, as I strongly suspect, then the Browns secondary can go zero coverage with the Lions wideouts which frees up a DB to help contain Reggie. Add the Browns are getting back OLB/DE Jabaal Sheard which will greatly help out the run defense.
I like Marcel Reese a lot and always have.
I'd still go Reggie Bush though.
agree 100%. with Hoyer this team is possibly 6-0. this is actually good in the long run. winning with Weeden just ####s our draft position.The difference between Weeden and Hoyer is just amazing. Imagine if we get a legit QB here next year...
This year though, the season is over. Get ready for 10 more weeks of Weeden overthrowing WRs, throwing behind WRs, throwing late, holding onto the ball too long, and putting up desperation INTs. At this point it's just who he is.
This team isn't that bad outside of the QB position.
Anybody with me now? Weeden is awful.i'm going to listen to Holmgren, who had his chance to fix this #### show and failed? riiiighttt...
Mike, if you're so ####### smart why did they go 14-34 when you were there?
Also, I think I'd take the trio of Hoyer, Gordon and McGahee over Weeden, Little and TRich. I think the offense is going to be better this week than the past 2 weeks. Any other Browns fans leaning that way?
nah, weeden is great.Anybody with me now? Weeden is awful.i'm going to listen to Holmgren, who had his chance to fix this #### show and failed? riiiighttt...
Mike, if you're so ####### smart why did they go 14-34 when you were there?
Also, I think I'd take the trio of Hoyer, Gordon and McGahee over Weeden, Little and TRich. I think the offense is going to be better this week than the past 2 weeks. Any other Browns fans leaning that way?
Really, average QB?That flip pass he attempted just might have been. The worst pass I've ever seen. The guys just hasn't progressed at all. Clev is a good team with an average QB. He effectively makes everybody worse.
Read his post again.Really, average QB?That flip pass he attempted just might have been. The worst pass I've ever seen. The guys just hasn't progressed at all. Clev is a good team with an average QB. He effectively makes everybody worse.
I see it now. Yes, they are a good team if they would only have an average QB. Unfortunately, right now they don't.Read his post again.Really, average QB?That flip pass he attempted just might have been. The worst pass I've ever seen. The guys just hasn't progressed at all. Clev is a good team with an average QB. He effectively makes everybody worse.
Unless playing Weeden over Campbell impacts 2014 and beyond I really don't care who plays.could campbell be any worse?? why don't they give him a chance? i know he was brutal in his last start (w/ the bears iirc), but that was w/o practice & prep. weeden is brutal.
Proof they are playing for the first pick now.just announced Weeden is starting this Sunday.
i wasn't buying it at first, but i am now.Proof they are playing for the first pick now.just announced Weeden is starting this Sunday.