Arsenal of Doom
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Owa to UCLA
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Dexter Manley
Footballguy
And Simek to Arkansas. He said we offered.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I hope he tears both ACLs on his way to the fridge to get his dinner tonight.
fasteddie_21
2006 NM Poker Champ
Dorsey to Michigan is official.
Arsenal of Doom
Footballguy
Yeah, not too broken up about that. At this point I'd rather have the extra scholarship on next year's class. Losing Owa to UCLA hurts a little, but can't blame him for wanting to stay in the Pac 10. He'll get a chance to see up close and personal the kind of physical team Nebraska is putting together in a few years.
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Dexter Manley
Footballguy
Yea, I'm not too high on Simek either. I just thought it was interesting that the Nebraska coaches had been straight up with him all along as he waited for an offer, and then when they finally offer him he signs elsewhere.Best of luck to Owa. I think he would develop faster as a player going to NU, but I definitely understand the allure of going to college in LA.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Aloof
Footballguy
Lache Seastrunk 5* RB commit to Oregon still has not faxed in his LOI. Auburn boards are in a tizzy thinking he wants to sign with AU. Some beat writer out of Mobile claims he called AU asking about a scholarship. I'm 98% sure this is a whole lot of nothing, but the internet thinks it may be true, and the internet is never ever wrong.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
I read a thought somewhere that he was "scared" of going there with Lattimore but now that Lattimore signed with the Gamecocks, he may be interested again.
ConstruxBoy
Kate's Daddy
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Josh Shirley commits to UCLA.
Anthony Jefferson does too.
Anthony Jefferson does too.
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harrycarey
Footballguy
Seems like UT came up short in number of Def. and Off linemen, am I right? Are there guys that redshirted last year or didn't play much that are expected to do good things in the trenches, because heading into recruiting, those are the areas I was most concerned about (along with QB obviously)
Abraham
Footballguy
Got 3 QBs. Added 4 OLs (one 5*, two 4*, and one 3*). Added one DT and 3 DEs. IIRC, they have some big Frsh/Soph Olinemen waiting.
The Kansas Comet
Footballguy
Dietrich Riley to UCLA - the Bruins are doing a great job closing today. 
gump
Footballguy
Yet another reason I've been questioning Kiffin.The cubbard was bare on the lines when he arrived right? At least the OL was thin and full of seniors and walk-ons last year. So Kiff receives all these accolades for signing the #10 class last year....but it only includes 3 OL (1 4-star and 2 3-star)...1 DT (3-star)...and 1 DE (3-star).So only 5 total lineman...and 4/5 were among the lowest ranked kids in the class. I know lineman ranking is a little questionable....but still seems to me like Kiffin doesn't have much of a plan other than signing big names, and Dooley does (among others).He signed a top 5 class today...plenty of WR/RB/Athletes...but I see 2 lineman. He better hope Carroll left depth on the lines...
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Mark Davis
Footballguy
What I've heard is Kiffin recruited the ones with the higher star rankings rather than addressing need. It's great to get a lot of 4 star players and even a 5 star now and then but you have to fill your needs. It appears though that Dooley did a good job of holding it together and even adding a couple of guys in Stone and Rogers at the end.
gump
Footballguy
Current Rivals rankings:
1 Florida 28 4 18 5 3.89 2,938
2 Texas 25 2 19 4 3.92 2,728
3 Auburn 32 3 13 13 3.50 2,485
4 USC 16 4 11 1 4.19 2,348
5 Alabama 26 1 15 9 3.62 2,308
6 LSU 29 1 15 13 3.59 2,255
7 Oklahoma 29 0 16 13 3.55 2,213
8 UCLA 23 1 12 10 3.61 2,105
9 Tennessee 25 1 12 9 3.44 2,048
10 Florida State 24 2 8 14 3.50 1,953
11 California 19 2 7 10 3.58 1,875
12 Penn State 20 0 12 7 3.55 1,852
13 Oregon 22 1 9 9 3.36 1,733
14 Notre Dame 23 0 10 12 3.39 1,618
15 Texas A&M 23 0 9 13 3.35 1,587
16 Georgia 19 0 9 9 3.42 1,581
17 Clemson 23 0 9 13 3.35 1,551
18 Ole Miss 25 0 8 16 3.20 1,534
19 West Virginia 21 1 5 13 3.24 1,533
20 Michigan 27 0 6 20 3.19 1,479
21 Missouri 23 0 7 16 3.30 1,446
22 Virginia Tech 21 0 6 15 3.29 1,430
23 Nebraska 21 0 8 10 3.24 1,407
24 Miami 28 0 6 18 3.07 1,347
25 Ohio State 18 0 8 9 3.39 1,334
1 Florida 28 4 18 5 3.89 2,938
2 Texas 25 2 19 4 3.92 2,728
3 Auburn 32 3 13 13 3.50 2,485
4 USC 16 4 11 1 4.19 2,348
5 Alabama 26 1 15 9 3.62 2,308
6 LSU 29 1 15 13 3.59 2,255
7 Oklahoma 29 0 16 13 3.55 2,213
8 UCLA 23 1 12 10 3.61 2,105
9 Tennessee 25 1 12 9 3.44 2,048
10 Florida State 24 2 8 14 3.50 1,953
11 California 19 2 7 10 3.58 1,875
12 Penn State 20 0 12 7 3.55 1,852
13 Oregon 22 1 9 9 3.36 1,733
14 Notre Dame 23 0 10 12 3.39 1,618
15 Texas A&M 23 0 9 13 3.35 1,587
16 Georgia 19 0 9 9 3.42 1,581
17 Clemson 23 0 9 13 3.35 1,551
18 Ole Miss 25 0 8 16 3.20 1,534
19 West Virginia 21 1 5 13 3.24 1,533
20 Michigan 27 0 6 20 3.19 1,479
21 Missouri 23 0 7 16 3.30 1,446
22 Virginia Tech 21 0 6 15 3.29 1,430
23 Nebraska 21 0 8 10 3.24 1,407
24 Miami 28 0 6 18 3.07 1,347
25 Ohio State 18 0 8 9 3.39 1,334
Mark Davis
Footballguy
Seeing Ohio State at 25 surprises me. If they get Henderson later today that ranking should improve, but I would have expected more.
Barry Jive and The Uptown Five
Footballguy
Just as an FYI on Scholarship limits:1. EVERY Conference/school in D-I has a 25 scholie per year limit and a team limit of 852. Teams sign extra when they know that some of the recruits are not going to make grades and will get placed in JUCO or prep schools.*** The 25-limit only takes effect when the recruits enroll @ school in the fall *** That's when they become "official" recipients of a scholarship.So yeah, teams sign 26, 27, 30 kids to Letters of Intent. But they already know that only 25 will be on campus in the fall.
gump
Footballguy
I understand the scholarship limits...but if I understand the SEC situation correctly, they actually put a cap on LOI's of 27 (after Nutt signed a small army last year). I think they are the only conference that actually limits the number of LOI's you can receive...
gump
Footballguy
Agree...and how about Miami? With all the hype they rec'd last season...and with signing 28 kids...and in the talent hotbed they are in...no better than 24th?
Mark Davis
Footballguy
Ironically enough just saw a report that Henderson is going to sign with Miami, a last minute surprise.
Aloof
Footballguy
I thought the SEC cap was 28, could be completely wrong but 28 is the number.....i think.
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
* Tennessee signed a good OL class. 5*, 4*, 4*, 3*. They actually turned down an OG from Texas. Tennessee returns a freshman all american on the line. Let's be honest here. 3/5 of the starting OL last season were way below typical SEC standards.* I'll trade being able to grab Stone (OL) from Bama for losing Ambles any day of the week.* Tennessee signed, I'll verify, the #1 WR class in the nation. 5*, 4*, 4*, 4*, 3*.* Signed very good DEs.* Where they are short is DT and LB. Losing Copeland really hurt. On the other hand, new DC is innovative and word is they may be a little less 4-3 traditional. A couple of the speed DEs can play 3-4 LB. One of the safeties is likely to move to LB.This isn't a one year/class project. It is going to take 2-3 years/classes to get the roster to be able to go head to head with Fl/Bama. Heck, they pretty much did that this year.I think Dooley is the right guy. You have to be uber impressed with what Dooley did in 19 days after the Quittin' Kiffin fiasco.
Mark Davis
Footballguy
I think that's right but I'm not sure. I know Auburn signed 32, 5 were applied to last year's class with early enrollments, leaving 27 counting towards the 2010 class. From my understanding they still had one spot left that wasn't used, meaning they could have taken 28.
Weapon of Mass Instruction
Watch my feet!
Hey, Kiffin, I guess they boys did commit to the "yellow jerseys" after all.
gump
Footballguy
Glad to see you pulling in some talent...l'il bro...
Goldminer1
Footballguy
The Idaho Vandals class coming off of the exciting Humanitarian Bowl victory and an 8 win season:
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http://bit.ly/drPf8S
Aloof
Footballguy
I will gut you like a fish one day.Glad to see you pulling in some talent...l'il bro...
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
I'm pretty sure the NCAA annual limit is 25. Also, you can sign however many guys you want. All that matters is how many end up on scholarships. Someone can play while not on scholarship, a la Ricky Williams at Texas, and they won't count against the total.
Aloof
Footballguy
What we're saying here is that the SEC has put a cap on LOI's. An SEC school can only receive 28 LOI's for a given year. 25 is the amount of schollies a school can award. So Auburn who signed 32 total worked out as follows: 5 enrolled in January which counted towards 2009, leaving 27. 25 of those 27 will sign scholarships, the other 2 will either be placed or grey shirt, or not enroll, or whatever.
Mark Davis
Footballguy
Right. From what I'm hearing those 2 are Richardson and Delaine.
Aloof
Footballguy
yeah, I heard Richardson, but had no idea who the other one was.
the hairy scotsman
Footballguy
Gotcha.Thanks.
Mark Davis
Footballguy
Henderson now official to USC. Appeared to be between OSU, Miami, and USC. Late push by Miami comes up short. Should vault USC up to the consensus #3 slot.
gump
Footballguy
Nice pull on the big lineman from San Dimas....
gump
Footballguy
of 18 total....Kiff's second OL, and 1 DL.
gump
Footballguy
I compared this to Carroll's great classes from '03 - '05...he averaged about 8-9 lineman per 20 signees.Saban's great classes from '07 - '09 averaged about 10-11 lineman per 25 signees.
Goldminer1
Footballguy
Yeah he looks like a good one. The fan base is pretty excited about getting Maxx Forde who originally committed to WAZZU (where his Dad played) (just 8 miles away). The Bass kid was a 4-star coming out of high school. Those are the kind of kids the WAC programs really have to focus on getting, the overlooked, the kids with potential and who maybe have had a bad year at a big school and are looking to get out. Akey also brought in a lot of JC kids who can help in the trenches right away next season. The Vandals play at Nebraska and have Boise at home, in a 13 game schedule. That means the Vandals will probably have to go 7-4 in their other games, which also include a trip to Fresno St. and long trips @ Hawaii and @ LA-Tech. The Vandals will probably be a better team than they were last year, but it will be much tougher for them to go bowling in 2010. I'm sure hoping we get back there though. An 8 win season and the national press we got after that crazy miracle win in the Humanitarian Bowl seemed totally impossible for about the last 10 years. 2009 felt pretty damn good after all the losing the program has done over the last 10-12 years.
Mark Davis
Footballguy
I hadn't noticed that. Looks like 3 TE, 2 RB, 2 WR, a QB, whole lotta skill guys and very light on the linemen and only 1 LB that I see. Of course they have an ATH that appears to be destined for LB as well.
Steve Tasker
Footballguy
Allen must be something really, really, really special for Cal to spend a scholarship on a mediocre QB who struggled mightily for 3/4 of the season in the MAC.
The Real Hipster Doofus
Footballguy
As a Michigan fan, that commit rates as one of the biggest shockers I have seen in the 10+ years I have been following recruiting.
Abraham
Footballguy
Vols:
3 QBs (A 4*, a 3*, and a 2* - and I'm willing to bet the 2* Nash Nance is going to end up as the guy.)
4 WRs (one 5* and three 4*)
1 RB (a 4*, already a position of strength for the Vols)
1 TE
4 OL (two 4*, two 3*)
2 "Athletes" (is that just code for running QBs and receivers taht can't catch?)
4 DL
2 LBs (big area of need)
3 DBs (another area of need)
1 K (Rivals has him as #1 at the position)
Pretty good work by dooley. i was honestly thinking they might lose most everyone once Kiffin bolted. Adding Hunter and Rodgers was great work by the new guy.
3 QBs (A 4*, a 3*, and a 2* - and I'm willing to bet the 2* Nash Nance is going to end up as the guy.)
4 WRs (one 5* and three 4*)
1 RB (a 4*, already a position of strength for the Vols)
1 TE
4 OL (two 4*, two 3*)
2 "Athletes" (is that just code for running QBs and receivers taht can't catch?)
4 DL
2 LBs (big area of need)
3 DBs (another area of need)
1 K (Rivals has him as #1 at the position)
Pretty good work by dooley. i was honestly thinking they might lose most everyone once Kiffin bolted. Adding Hunter and Rodgers was great work by the new guy.
Moe.
Footballguy
How the hell is Chizik pulling in a top 5 recruiting class? Kids really like that Malzahn offense or what?
edit: Apparently the theatre department is doing major work.
edit: Apparently the theatre department is doing major work.
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