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Word is thinner, lighter, dual core a5, dual camera, HDMI out and/or USB, 1024 resolution still.
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Footballguy
if that's the case the Xoom is probably my choice. We'll see on price though.
goonsquad
Think different.
Come on, Card. We all know there is no way in hell that you'd buy an iPad. This is all a little show so you can come back in here when iPad2 is announced an act like it's a disappointment. Pretty transparent, bud.
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Footballguy
Not at all, I've considered buying the current iPad too, it's the only viable tablet right now. I told myself I'd hold off for the iPad2 before I decided. If the resolution is still 1024 I'll probably get the Xoom. If they do raise it to at least 1280 and the price is good I will get the iPad2. Even then, if the Xoom is $800 and the iPad2 is $499 for the wifi version I'll get the iPad.I can't justify paying $300 more for slightly better resolutionCome on, Card. We all know there is no way in hell that you'd buy an iPad. This is all a little show so you can come back in here when iPad2 is announced an act like it's a disappointment. Pretty transparent, bud.
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goonsquad
Think different.
Quoted for posterity.Not at all, I've considered buying the current iPad too, it's the only viable tablet right now. I told myself I'd hold off for the iPad2 before I decided. If the resolution is still 1024 I'll probably get the Xoom. If they do raise it to at least 1280 and the price is good I will get the iPad2. Even then, if the Xoom is $800 and the iPad2 is $499 for the wifi version I'll get the iPad.Come on, Card. We all know there is no way in hell that you'd buy an iPad. This is all a little show so you can come back in here when iPad2 is announced an act like it's a disappointment. Pretty transparent, bud.
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Footballguy
GoodQuoted for posterity.
I'm serious. I'm tired of having to have my laptop on the couch with me, for the sole purpose of surfing and watching a few online vids. The apps are an added bonus, but I really felt like an iPad would have enhanced the football season for me.
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I thought this about Abraham and turned out wrong.Come on, Card. We all know there is no way in hell that you'd buy an iPad. This is all a little show so you can come back in here when iPad2 is announced an act like it's a disappointment. Pretty transparent, bud.
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I'll say this... when we have people over for watching games my MacBook usually sits somewhat unused on the coffee table while people wait their turn to pass the iPad around. Playing Words with friends, checking facebook, looking up stats, placing bets, etc. It's the preferred medium...by FAR. The tablet form factor (be it an iPad or Android) is the future.For all the ball busting by naysayers on how there wasn't a need for this device, it's changing the way people interact with data.GoodQuoted for posterity.I'm serious. I'm tired of having to have my laptop on the couch with me, for the sole purpose of surfing and watching a few online vids. The apps are an added bonus, but I really felt like an iPad would have enhanced the football season for me.
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Footballguy
I used the Sunday Ticket app on a couple of iPads I had access to and it was top notch, a seriously great experience. One of the benefits of an Android device is the ability to view Flash, but that won't be a deciding factor for me. Price is first, then specs....since both devices will be nice price will be the biggest thing.I'll say this... when we have people over for watching games my MacBook usually sits somewhat unused on the coffee table while people wait their turn to pass the iPad around. Playing Words with friends, checking facebook, looking up stats, placing bets, etc. It's the preferred medium...by FAR. The tablet form factor (be it an iPad or Android) is the future.For all the ball busting by naysayers on how there wasn't a need for this device, it's changing the way people interact with data.GoodQuoted for posterity.
I'm serious. I'm tired of having to have my laptop on the couch with me, for the sole purpose of surfing and watching a few online vids. The apps are an added bonus, but I really felt like an iPad would have enhanced the football season for me.
goonsquad
Think different.
Turns out there is an iPhone/iPad browser app called SkyFire that allows you to view Flash videos. And it was approved by Apple for the app store. So there's a solution for everyone that thinks they need Flash.ETA: For the nitpickers, the app technically downloads ands converts the Flash video to HTML5, so it doesn't actually "view" Flash.I used the Sunday Ticket app on a couple of iPads I had access to and it was top notch, a seriously great experience. One of the benefits of an Android device is the ability to view Flash, but that won't be a deciding factor for me. Price is first, then specs....since both devices will be nice price will be the biggest thing.I'll say this... when we have people over for watching games my MacBook usually sits somewhat unused on the coffee table while people wait their turn to pass the iPad around. Playing Words with friends, checking facebook, looking up stats, placing bets, etc. It's the preferred medium...by FAR. The tablet form factor (be it an iPad or Android) is the future.For all the ball busting by naysayers on how there wasn't a need for this device, it's changing the way people interact with data.GoodQuoted for posterity.
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Jojo the circus boy
Footballguy
I'm in the same boat or just wait it out for the iPad3 or at least see what the iPhone5 has got.
maxwelledison
Footballguy
This is my experience as well (I don't have a tablet but I've seen it unfold). I'm amazed by how much of total computer usage is consumption, for which tablets seem perfect.I'll say this... when we have people over for watching games my MacBook usually sits somewhat unused on the coffee table while people wait their turn to pass the iPad around. Playing Words with friends, checking facebook, looking up stats, placing bets, etc. It's the preferred medium...by FAR. The tablet form factor (be it an iPad or Android) is the future.For all the ball busting by naysayers on how there wasn't a need for this device, it's changing the way people interact with data.GoodQuoted for posterity.
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Apple to return to dominate educational sector?
Georgia state senator hopes to replace schoolbooks with iPads
By Daniel Eran Dilger
Published: 06:55 PM EST
The state of Georgia is reportedly considering a plan to get rid of conventional textbooks and shift middle school classrooms in the state to wireless iPads built by Apple, following positive iPad trials in place by schools around the US.
Republican Senate President pro tem Tommie Williams told the press earlier this week that the Georgia legislature and educators are considering a proposal by Apple to replace printed books, according to a report by Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
"Last week we met with Apple Computers," Williams said, "and they have a really promising program where they come in and their [sic] recommending to middle schools – for $500 per child per year, they will furnish every child with an iPad, wi-fi the system, provide all the books on the system, all the upgrades, all the teacher training – and the results they’re getting from these kids is phenomenal."
The senator added, "we’re currently spending about $40 million a year on books. And they last about seven years. We have books that don’t even have 9/11. This is the way kids are learning, and we need to be willing to move in that direction.”
Biggest thing since the overhead projector
A report by the New York Times last month described a pilot program at Roslyn High School on Long Island which started with 47 iPads. The school hopes to expand the program to include all of its 1,100 students.
It noted that the iPads "allow students to correspond with teachers and turn in papers and homework assignments, and preserve a record of student work in digital portfolios," citing teacher Larry Reiiff as saying, "It allows us to extend the classroom beyond these four walls."
The school described its initial purchase, which used 32GB iPads combined with a case and a stylus at a $750 each, was a part of an effort to go paperless and cut spending. In addition to just serving as electronic textbooks, the iPad are also described as running math games, begin used to study world maps and interactive sky charting of constellations, and to simulate the keys of a piano.
Roslyn school superintendent Daniel Brenner said Apple's iPad would save money in the long run by reducing printing and textbook costs; estimating that the two iPad classes save $7,200 a year.
"I think this could very well be the biggest thing to hit school technology since the overhead projector," added school principal Scott Wolfe.
Schools around the country go iPad
The report stated that New York's public schools had ordered 2,000 iPads, 300 of which went to Kingsbridge International High School in the Bronx. It also noted that 200 public schools in Chicago have applied for iPad grants.
Apple points out that Chicago public schools, the third largest district in the US, are ecstatically supporting iPad as a learning tool. John Connolly, the technology director for Chicago Public Schools, states in a promotional video that "being able to outfit so many our kids with such a low cost machine could be a real advantage for our district."
The Virginia Department of Education is managing a $150,000 iPad initiative to replace history and Advanced placement biology textbooks at 11 of its schools.
The report also noted the Pinnacle Peak School in Scottsdale, Arizona, which "converted an empty classroom into a lab with 36 iPads — named the iMaginarium," while the private Morristown-Beard School in New Jersey bought 60 iPads for $36,000 and is considering providing iPads to all students next fall.
A number of eduction initiatives related to iPad are taking advantage of President Obama's competitive Race to the Top program designed to back the best ideas in education with federal support.
There's a app for that
Apple lists about 5,400 eduction apps for iPad, about a thousand of which are free. Textbook publishers are eyeing the potential for moving their content to the digital world, enabling them to update material rapidly and include interactivity.
Six middle schools in San Francisco, Long Beach, Fresno and Riverside, California are now teaching the first iPad-only algebra course, developed by publisher Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, which is studying the results of students using its digital program compared to those using conventional textbooks.
In addition to third party apps, Apple's iPad education page touts its own iWorks apps for iPad, which it says "help students and teachers put together professional-looking documents, presentations, and spreadsheets no matter where they are," and "when you finish what you’ve been working on, just tap the AirPrint icon to print it out directly from your iPad."
The company also highlights iTunes U, its listing of more than 350,000 free lectures, videos and other content from institutions including Yale, Stanford, UC Berkeley, Oxford, Cambridge, MIT, Beijing Open University and The University of Tokyo.
Critics complain that tablet-shaped devices using Android can be sold for $100 and supply basic ebook reader features. However, low priced ereaders are failing to rival iPad in the marketplace, with numbers from IDC indicating that Apple's iPad, starting at $500, continues to outsell low end ereader devices available for as little as $130.
Georgia state senator hopes to replace schoolbooks with iPads
By Daniel Eran Dilger
Published: 06:55 PM EST
The state of Georgia is reportedly considering a plan to get rid of conventional textbooks and shift middle school classrooms in the state to wireless iPads built by Apple, following positive iPad trials in place by schools around the US.
Republican Senate President pro tem Tommie Williams told the press earlier this week that the Georgia legislature and educators are considering a proposal by Apple to replace printed books, according to a report by Atlanta Journal-Constitution.
"Last week we met with Apple Computers," Williams said, "and they have a really promising program where they come in and their [sic] recommending to middle schools – for $500 per child per year, they will furnish every child with an iPad, wi-fi the system, provide all the books on the system, all the upgrades, all the teacher training – and the results they’re getting from these kids is phenomenal."
The senator added, "we’re currently spending about $40 million a year on books. And they last about seven years. We have books that don’t even have 9/11. This is the way kids are learning, and we need to be willing to move in that direction.”
Biggest thing since the overhead projector
A report by the New York Times last month described a pilot program at Roslyn High School on Long Island which started with 47 iPads. The school hopes to expand the program to include all of its 1,100 students.
It noted that the iPads "allow students to correspond with teachers and turn in papers and homework assignments, and preserve a record of student work in digital portfolios," citing teacher Larry Reiiff as saying, "It allows us to extend the classroom beyond these four walls."
The school described its initial purchase, which used 32GB iPads combined with a case and a stylus at a $750 each, was a part of an effort to go paperless and cut spending. In addition to just serving as electronic textbooks, the iPad are also described as running math games, begin used to study world maps and interactive sky charting of constellations, and to simulate the keys of a piano.
Roslyn school superintendent Daniel Brenner said Apple's iPad would save money in the long run by reducing printing and textbook costs; estimating that the two iPad classes save $7,200 a year.
"I think this could very well be the biggest thing to hit school technology since the overhead projector," added school principal Scott Wolfe.
Schools around the country go iPad
The report stated that New York's public schools had ordered 2,000 iPads, 300 of which went to Kingsbridge International High School in the Bronx. It also noted that 200 public schools in Chicago have applied for iPad grants.
Apple points out that Chicago public schools, the third largest district in the US, are ecstatically supporting iPad as a learning tool. John Connolly, the technology director for Chicago Public Schools, states in a promotional video that "being able to outfit so many our kids with such a low cost machine could be a real advantage for our district."
The Virginia Department of Education is managing a $150,000 iPad initiative to replace history and Advanced placement biology textbooks at 11 of its schools.
The report also noted the Pinnacle Peak School in Scottsdale, Arizona, which "converted an empty classroom into a lab with 36 iPads — named the iMaginarium," while the private Morristown-Beard School in New Jersey bought 60 iPads for $36,000 and is considering providing iPads to all students next fall.
A number of eduction initiatives related to iPad are taking advantage of President Obama's competitive Race to the Top program designed to back the best ideas in education with federal support.
There's a app for that
Apple lists about 5,400 eduction apps for iPad, about a thousand of which are free. Textbook publishers are eyeing the potential for moving their content to the digital world, enabling them to update material rapidly and include interactivity.
Six middle schools in San Francisco, Long Beach, Fresno and Riverside, California are now teaching the first iPad-only algebra course, developed by publisher Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, which is studying the results of students using its digital program compared to those using conventional textbooks.
In addition to third party apps, Apple's iPad education page touts its own iWorks apps for iPad, which it says "help students and teachers put together professional-looking documents, presentations, and spreadsheets no matter where they are," and "when you finish what you’ve been working on, just tap the AirPrint icon to print it out directly from your iPad."
The company also highlights iTunes U, its listing of more than 350,000 free lectures, videos and other content from institutions including Yale, Stanford, UC Berkeley, Oxford, Cambridge, MIT, Beijing Open University and The University of Tokyo.
Critics complain that tablet-shaped devices using Android can be sold for $100 and supply basic ebook reader features. However, low priced ereaders are failing to rival iPad in the marketplace, with numbers from IDC indicating that Apple's iPad, starting at $500, continues to outsell low end ereader devices available for as little as $130.
culdeus
Footballguy
nope
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Shtaym Syek
Footballguy
RDP?
I'm with you Cappy... I can't get past not having flash on something I plan on using to replace my laptop.
CrossEyed
Footballguy
I think this is great. By the time my boy is in school there's a good possibility that textbooks will be obsolete. That's crazy.
culdeus
Footballguy
Well that's a lot of trouble to to through. But yeah I guess that would work.
cstu
Footballguy
I think books in general are becoming obsolete. Just as people has slowly stopped buying CD's, the same will happen with books. With textbooks I think we will see a lot of innovations on tablet devices that make them more interactive, such as making notes using a stylus and hyperlinks to relevant websites.
cstu
Footballguy
I would not want to buy a tablet that was limited in what it can do. This is why I still think Microsoft wins in the end with Windows 7 tablets.
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
Yea, I am still holding out here. Your tablet needs to be able to interact or easily transfer data to/from your work computer or home computer to be really functional. You don't need full laptop power, but the no USB thing needs to be rectified ASAP.I want to be able to take the tablet everywhere and use it as a minimal laptop/iPhone on steroids.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Have any of you guys tried SkyFire? I want to get an IPAD but not being able to view sites like ESPN3 are stopping me.Would SkyFire help me view a site like ESPN3?Turns out there is an iPhone/iPad browser app called SkyFire that allows you to view Flash videos. And it was approved by Apple for the app store. So there's a solution for everyone that thinks they need Flash.ETA: For the nitpickers, the app technically downloads ands converts the Flash video to HTML5, so it doesn't actually "view" Flash.I used the Sunday Ticket app on a couple of iPads I had access to and it was top notch, a seriously great experience. One of the benefits of an Android device is the ability to view Flash, but that won't be a deciding factor for me. Price is first, then specs....since both devices will be nice price will be the biggest thing.I'll say this... when we have people over for watching games my MacBook usually sits somewhat unused on the coffee table while people wait their turn to pass the iPad around. Playing Words with friends, checking facebook, looking up stats, placing bets, etc. It's the preferred medium...by FAR. The tablet form factor (be it an iPad or Android) is the future.For all the ball busting by naysayers on how there wasn't a need for this device, it's changing the way people interact with data.GoodQuoted for posterity.
Otis
Footballguy
It only fails to work the first time you click on a thread since the upgrade. Once you "catch up" in that particular thread, it works normally again. The upgrade reset all the "read to" points.
gmbacm
Footballguy
Thats not the issue im having. It literally takes 3-4 attempts most times to tap that sucker properly. Tap it too light and nothing happens. Tap it a fraction off and it just highlights the thread title. Tap it a touch too hard and it opens the thread link, not last unread think. And i dont have Otis mitts either - my hands are normal size. Never an issue with the last version of software, but its painful now. I usually end up zooming first which is a pain too.Fwiw i prefer atomic vs safari, but notice it in both.
pigskinliquors
Dr. Parrothead
Anybody standing in line for one of these today? Our local Apple Store will be selling theirs from 5-8:30 and expect them to be gone pretty quickly, with a second batch coming in a week. I'm waiting for round 2.
Foosball God
Foos
I ordered one for my in-laws online this morning. I am going to try and get one today at 5:00 but I'm going to try a Target or a Best Buy, not an Apple store.
Gianni Verscotchie
Footballguy
I ordered two online this morning. Apple says it will ship in 5-7 business days
-fish-
Footballguy
full version is .$99, but it works great. watching Miami/NC at work on ESPN3.
chet
Footballguy
2-3 weeks for me.
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No kidding. With 3G you've got every game with you everywhere you go. Kitchen, Work, Office, Park, John, In-Car...etc. Use headphone jack to hook into your car stereo = listen to any game while driving. 
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Joe T
Footballguy
Serious question: what do you guys use flash for?
gmbacm
Footballguy
A number of sites - mostly video. Nothing critical but annoying nontheless...For example clicked on this thread to check it out - but no dice on ipad...http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=586566
Gianni Verscotchie
Footballguy
i can't figure out how to buy the full version
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
me neither, but have not had any trouble with the free version. Could it be that they are offering it free for a period?i can't figure out how to buy the full version
-fish-
Footballguy
the option to buy is supposed to just pop up after 30 seconds. you probably need to authorize notifications. they just put up an update that they're donating all profits from the app to aid Japanese tsunami relief efforts.me neither, but have not had any trouble with the free version. Could it be that they are offering it free for a period?i can't figure out how to buy the full version
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gmbacm
Footballguy
Auto correction sucks. I spend more time correcting auto correction then my spelling so i turn it off. But why cant I leave check spelling on with auto correction off? Is there a way to have unknown words underlined or something without the device making up words/phrases to fill in?
cstu
Footballguy
Figured it would since a refurb is $429 plus tax from Apple.SOLD! That was quick
