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I don't envy Elways position.

This year will have the fan base vastly overrating not only the QB but the overall strength of this team. He has to figure out a way to bring in a QB to legitimately challenge Tebow while also filling lots of other holes, all the while fighting a media punditry and fandom that's going to want to annoint "The Great Incompletion."

One way is to bring in a HOF'er.

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I think Elway deserves credit for not double-speaking. He said exactly what he should have said. Tebow has earned the right to be 1st on the depth chart entering training camp. That statement brings with it no guarantee that a rookie or veteran addition can't outplay/outpractice Tebow and grab the job, but it also suggests that if Tebow truly does improve as his vocal supporters maintain is possible, he should start the year as the starter again.Kudos to Elway for speaking honestly.

He never spoke honestly about Tebow. He hated him from jump street.I'm gonna miss this thread.
As a Executive Vice President of an NFL team who wants his team to win a Superbowl, Elway should hate Tebow, as Tebow isn't going to lead any team to a Superbowl ever. What Elway deserves credit for is taking the hard road of getting a new QB when his team's old QB was beloved by the fanbase even though he sucked.
The hard road? Going after Manning was a no-brainer, certainly not the hard road, in my opinion. Elway deserves credit for landing Manning not for the decision to go for him.
Going after Manning should have been a no-brainer for the majority of franchises. Yet only several went after him much effort.

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The Tebow Era, Chapter 2. The potential in JAX is unlimited. WR crew is phenomenal, MJD, TE is an upgrade. This should be exciting if he can land there. :thumbup:

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The Tebow Era, Chapter 2. The potential in JAX is unlimited. WR crew is phenomenal, MJD, TE is an upgrade. This should be exciting if he can land there. :thumbup:

Why would Jax want to put themselves in the position of trying to trade for a QB in the future just so they can get rid of Tebow without the fans rioting? If I'm an owner I don't open that can of worms.

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The Tebow Era, Chapter 2. The potential in JAX is unlimited. WR crew is phenomenal, MJD, TE is an upgrade. This should be exciting if he can land there. :thumbup:

Why would Jax want to put themselves in the position of trying to trade for a QB in the future just so they can get rid of Tebow without the fans rioting? If I'm an owner I don't open that can of worms.
if you are an owner, you care first and foremost about putting butts in seats.

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The Tebow Era, Chapter 2. The potential in JAX is unlimited. WR crew is phenomenal, MJD, TE is an upgrade. This should be exciting if he can land there. :thumbup:

Why would Jax want to put themselves in the position of trying to trade for a QB in the future just so they can get rid of Tebow without the fans rioting? If I'm an owner I don't open that can of worms.
if you are an owner, you care first and foremost about putting butts in seats.
Maybe they should try putting a winning team on the field first. That should fill the seats. You would think he would learn from Denver's mistake and not make the same one. It's not good to be in a situation Elway and Fox were in with Tebow.

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The Tebow Era, Chapter 2. The potential in JAX is unlimited. WR crew is phenomenal, MJD, TE is an upgrade. This should be exciting if he can land there. :thumbup:

Why would Jax want to put themselves in the position of trying to trade for a QB in the future just so they can get rid of Tebow without the fans rioting? If I'm an owner I don't open that can of worms.
if you are an owner, you care first and foremost about putting butts in seats.
:goodposting: Jacksonville is one of the lowest teams in attendance in the NFL. That fact alone makes Tebow a "decent fit". If you're the owner of the Jags, the value of your team has been sinking like a rock lately - Tebowmania could give it a nice shot in the arm.

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The Tebow Era, Chapter 2. The potential in JAX is unlimited. WR crew is phenomenal, MJD, TE is an upgrade. This should be exciting if he can land there. :thumbup:

Why would Jax want to put themselves in the position of trying to trade for a QB in the future just so they can get rid of Tebow without the fans rioting? If I'm an owner I don't open that can of worms.
if you are an owner, you care first and foremost about putting butts in seats.
:goodposting: Jacksonville is one of the lowest teams in attendance in the NFL. That fact alone makes Tebow a "decent fit". If you're the owner of the Jags, the value of your team has been sinking like a rock lately - Tebowmania could give it a nice shot in the arm.
And he COULD help them win. Let's not forget that he took an abysmal 1-4 team and led them to the playoffs and to a victory in the playoffs.

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The Tebow Era, Chapter 2. The potential in JAX is unlimited. WR crew is phenomenal, MJD, TE is an upgrade. This should be exciting if he can land there. :thumbup:

Why would Jax want to put themselves in the position of trying to trade for a QB in the future just so they can get rid of Tebow without the fans rioting? If I'm an owner I don't open that can of worms.
if you are an owner, you care first and foremost about putting butts in seats.
:goodposting: Jacksonville is one of the lowest teams in attendance in the NFL. That fact alone makes Tebow a "decent fit". If you're the owner of the Jags, the value of your team has been sinking like a rock lately - Tebowmania could give it a nice shot in the arm.
And he COULD help them win. Let's not forget that he took an abysmal 1-4 team and led them to the playoffs and to a victory in the playoffs.
When I say win I mean win long term and hopefully win the Super Bowl. I don't see how anyone could seriously say that Tim Tebow is capable of that.

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When I say win I mean win long term and hopefully win the Super Bowl. I don't see how anyone could seriously say that Tim Tebow is capable of that.

A year ago there were people making the same statement about him ever going to the playoffs.

A few months ago there were plenty of people on here still saying that he was obviously not capable of winning a playoff game.

It's not unreasonable to think that Tebow could continue to improve or land on a team that actually has a good defense (rather than one that just fools dolts into thinking they're good while still being in the bottom quarter of the league in points allowed).

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Considering the egos involved with NFL coaches and the success Tebow has had on the field, I imagine there are more than a few teams out there saying, "You know...I bet he'd be even better if I were coaching him..."

The Jags have to be :wall: that they signed Chad Henne or else they could trade for him. People seem to forget that while a player has to be able to make a contribution on the field, the NFL is a business and Tim Tebow is one of its most popular players. Tebow gets headlines, he sells jerseys, he sells tickets and Fatheads and does a lot of community service. Half the teams in the league are below-average and many of them have middling QB play. They could do a lot worse then adding the NFL's most popular player to their squad in exchange for a mid-round pick. Why wouldn't Miami send one of the picks from the MArshall trade (or even a 4th) for him?

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Yea, but the novelty will wear off once he stops performing. So if you sign the guy to a long and lucrative deal, you'd better believe that he's going to perform because no one will be buying those #15 jerseys if he's your backup a year from now.

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Yea, but the novelty will wear off once he stops performing. So if you sign the guy to a long and lucrative deal, you'd better believe that he's going to perform because no one will be buying those #15 jerseys if he's your backup a year from now.

No one said anything about a long term deal. And you assume he wouldn't be able to perform.

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I think several good and bad things are going to happen this year:

1) Peyton is going to soon realize DThomas,EDecker and Fells wouldn't even make the team behind Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark

2) Denver is going to need a backup QB because Peyton's gonna get busted up. He's not going to make it through the entire season with that terrible offensive line, weak RBs and weak receivers.

3) People are going to soon realize that John Elway was a great QB but never proven anything beyond that. He may be beloved in Denver for leading the Super Bowl winning teams but his success is over.

Meanwhile, who knows what happens to Tebow.

1) Backup Cam Newton? Sheesh, Cam couldn't beat out Tebow in college and can't in the pros.

2) Play for Miami or Jax? Talk about a the next 2 worst receiving corps behind Denver. They'd need to revamp their offense like Denver did until they got real receivers.

3) Backup Mike Vick? Look for him to play sooner rather than later. Vick can't stay healthy. It's a pretty good fit actually.

4) Backup Tom Brady? I like it, Belechick likes him as obviously does McDaniels.

5) Stay in Denver to backup/learn from Peyton Manning? Not the worst move Elway could make but he's probably not smart enough.

And so the soap opera continues...

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1) Backup Cam Newton? Sheesh, Cam couldn't beat out Tebow in college and can't in the pros.

lol

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I think several good and bad things are going to happen this year:1) Peyton is going to soon realize DThomas,EDecker and Fells wouldn't even make the team behind Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark

Fells isn't a Bronco anymore and I guess you missed what Thomas did the last half of the season. Right around the time he got healthy....

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1) Backup Cam Newton? Sheesh, Cam couldn't beat out Tebow in college and can't in the pros.

lol
That one was one of the most ridiculous statements ever.

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3.19.12 - Tebow Era Ends.

On life support but not dead yet. I'll let ya know when he flatlines. It's coming, that much we do know. :lmao: Edited by FavreCo

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I think he's going to end up somewhere unexpected, get his chance, and flourish again. Buffalo or Kansas city or Arizona or minny.

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3.19.12 - Tebow Era Ends.

You mean 3/19/01 A.T. 1/1/01 A.T

-QG

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3.19.12 - Tebow Era Ends.

You mean 3/19/01 A.T.-QG
Really, that day should be known as 1 A.T.

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Personally, I'd love to see the Patriots get Tebow and then find a way to put him and Tom Brady on the field at the same time. Obviously, he'd need to accept being some type of H-back hybrid for it to work, but just imagine the offensive flexibility.

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I think he's going to end up somewhere unexpected, get his chance, and flourish again. Buffalo or Kansas city or Arizona or minny.

Flourish. :lmao::lmao::lmao:

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Personally, I'd love to see the Patriots get Tebow and then find a way to put him and Tom Brady on the field at the same time. Obviously, he'd need to accept being some type of H-back hybrid for it to work, but just imagine the offensive flexibility.

Yeah because the offense and QB they have need help.

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The Tebow Era, Chapter 2. The potential in JAX is unlimited. WR crew is phenomenal, MJD, TE is an upgrade. This should be exciting if he can land there. :thumbup:

Why would Jax want to put themselves in the position of trying to trade for a QB in the future just so they can get rid of Tebow without the fans rioting? If I'm an owner I don't open that can of worms.
if you are an owner, you care first and foremost about putting butts in seats.
:goodposting: Jacksonville is one of the lowest teams in attendance in the NFL. That fact alone makes Tebow a "decent fit". If you're the owner of the Jags, the value of your team has been sinking like a rock lately - Tebowmania could give it a nice shot in the arm.
And he COULD help them win. Let's not forget that he took an abysmal 1-4 team and led them to the playoffs and to a victory in the playoffs.
cough, cough....fluke....cough, cough

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cough, cough....fluke....cough, cough

I'm sorry - which was the fluke:Turning in a winning record in the regular season when haters said he couldn't do it.Getting a team that was 1-4 into the playoffs, when a lot of people said he couldn't do it.Beating the Steelers in his first playoff game - while posting a 125.5 passer rating (compared to Big Ben's 75.9) when nobody thought he could do it.

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cough, cough....fluke....cough, cough

I'm sorry - which was the fluke:Turning in a winning record in the regular season when haters said he couldn't do it.Getting a team that was 1-4 into the playoffs, when a lot of people said he couldn't do it.Beating the Steelers in his first playoff game - while posting a 125.5 passer rating (compared to Big Ben's 75.9) when nobody thought he could do it.
I think it's the sucking for 3 quarters weekly and then pulling #### out of his ### with the help of guys like Marion Barber. face it dude, he sucks and is heading for the bench....or a really bad team in need of tebow fans to fill the stadium.

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I think he's going to end up somewhere unexpected, get his chance, and flourish again. Buffalo or Kansas city or Arizona or minny.

Flourish. :lmao::lmao::lmao:
Getting a job as a groundskeeper.

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Tebowmania makes me glad I don't follow college football. I can think he stinks with a clear conscience.

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cough, cough....fluke....cough, cough

I'm sorry - which was the fluke:Turning in a winning record in the regular season when haters said he couldn't do it.Getting a team that was 1-4 into the playoffs, when a lot of people said he couldn't do it.Beating the Steelers in his first playoff game - while posting a 125.5 passer rating (compared to Big Ben's 75.9) when nobody thought he could do it.
A fluke is an odd occurrence that happens and is unlikely to be repeated. So I would say all of the above.

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Meanwhile, who knows what happens to Tebow.1) Backup Cam Newton? Sheesh, Cam couldn't beat out Tebow in college and can't in the pros.

That may be the stupidest thing ever written in the English language. Do you watch pro football?In post #3441 I said that the Tebow Era Ended yesterday, but apparently Tebow delusion will never die. Never. Sheesh!

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Personally, I'd love to see the Patriots get Tebow and then find a way to put him and Tom Brady on the field at the same time. Obviously, he'd need to accept being some type of H-back hybrid for it to work, but just imagine the offensive flexibility.

Yeah because the offense and QB they have need help.
Of course they need help. I dont care how good they are, they can always be better.

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I think the most interesting option for Tebow is New England which may be able to exploit his strengths more than any other team. However, Tebow's success in N.E. (if he has any) won't be as a QB. It will be as some type of hybrid runner/receiver/passer. Might be the best thing for him.

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I think the most interesting option for Tebow is New England which may be able to exploit his strengths more than any other team. However, Tebow's success in N.E. (if he has any) won't be as a QB. It will be as some type of hybrid runner/receiver/passer. Might be the best thing for him.

Why does anyone think Tebow has receiving skills? How many passes has he caught in his life?

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I think the most interesting option for Tebow is New England which may be able to exploit his strengths more than any other team. However, Tebow's success in N.E. (if he has any) won't be as a QB. It will be as some type of hybrid runner/receiver/passer. Might be the best thing for him.

Why does anyone think Tebow has receiving skills? How many passes has he caught in his life?
Cmon he is as big as a tight end so obviously he has good hands.

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1) Backup Cam Newton? Sheesh, Cam couldn't beat out Tebow in college and can't in the pros.

lol
That one was one of the most ridiculous statements ever.
Most of his post was ridiculous.

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I think the most interesting option for Tebow is New England which may be able to exploit his strengths more than any other team. However, Tebow's success in N.E. (if he has any) won't be as a QB. It will be as some type of hybrid runner/receiver/passer. Might be the best thing for him.

Why does anyone think Tebow has receiving skills? How many passes has he caught in his life?
Cmon he is as big as a tight end so obviously he has good hands.
I realize you're being ironic, but he's listed at 6'3", 236, which isn't TE size. Graham is 6'6", 260, Gronkowski is 6'6", 265, Gates is 6'4", 260, Gonzalez is 6'5", 247.

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cough, cough....fluke....cough, cough

I'm sorry - which was the fluke:Turning in a winning record in the regular season when haters said he couldn't do it.Getting a team that was 1-4 into the playoffs, when a lot of people said he couldn't do it.Beating the Steelers in his first playoff game - while posting a 125.5 passer rating (compared to Big Ben's 75.9) when nobody thought he could do it.
A fluke is an odd occurrence that happens and is unlikely to be repeated. So I would say all of the above.
You are of course correct. He couldn't possibly win his first playoff game...again. He already did. And the chances of taking over a team that is precisely 1-4 are relatively slim. However, I would suggest that, let's say for example, he goes to the 49ers - I'm guessing the odds of him having a winning record are decent. Obviously, if he ends up on a ####hole team, the odds drop somewhat. ;)

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I think the most interesting option for Tebow is New England which may be able to exploit his strengths more than any other team. However, Tebow's success in N.E. (if he has any) won't be as a QB. It will be as some type of hybrid runner/receiver/passer. Might be the best thing for him.

Why does anyone think Tebow has receiving skills? How many passes has he caught in his life?
Cmon he is as big as a tight end so obviously he has good hands.
I realize you're being ironic, but he's listed at 6'3", 236, which isn't TE size. Graham is 6'6", 260, Gronkowski is 6'6", 265, Gates is 6'4", 260, Gonzalez is 6'5", 247.
Looks like the best bet for this shrimp is water boy. The clowns on ESPN were saying the same. Line him up at WR. :lmao: How do these guys get on TV? It wasn't even Bayless although he didn't disagree either.

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I realize you're being ironic, but he's listed at 6'3", 236, which isn't TE size. Graham is 6'6", 260, Gronkowski is 6'6", 265, Gates is 6'4", 260, Gonzalez is 6'5", 247.

Gresham is 6'5", 260Oh, and Tebow's last name does not begin with G!*-QG(*-but God does :unsure:) Edited by QuizGuy66

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I think several good and bad things are going to happen this year:1) Peyton is going to soon realize DThomas,EDecker and Fells wouldn't even make the team behind Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark2) Denver is going to need a backup QB because Peyton's gonna get busted up. He's not going to make it through the entire season with that terrible offensive line, weak RBs and weak receivers.3) People are going to soon realize that John Elway was a great QB but never proven anything beyond that. He may be beloved in Denver for leading the Super Bowl winning teams but his success is over.Meanwhile, who knows what happens to Tebow.1) Backup Cam Newton? Sheesh, Cam couldn't beat out Tebow in college and can't in the pros.2) Play for Miami or Jax? Talk about a the next 2 worst receiving corps behind Denver. They'd need to revamp their offense like Denver did until they got real receivers.3) Backup Mike Vick? Look for him to play sooner rather than later. Vick can't stay healthy. It's a pretty good fit actually.4) Backup Tom Brady? I like it, Belechick likes him as obviously does McDaniels.5) Stay in Denver to backup/learn from Peyton Manning? Not the worst move Elway could make but he's probably not smart enough.And so the soap opera continues...

People keep picking parts of this entire post apart? I'll go out on a limb and say the entire thing is just stupid.

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Personally, I'd love to see the Patriots get Tebow and then find a way to put him and Tom Brady on the field at the same time. Obviously, he'd need to accept being some type of H-back hybrid for it to work, but just imagine the offensive flexibility.

Yeah, Patriots need to find some creative ways to produce some offense.

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I realize you're being ironic, but he's listed at 6'3", 236, which isn't TE size. Graham is 6'6", 260, Gronkowski is 6'6", 265, Gates is 6'4", 260, Gonzalez is 6'5", 247.

Gresham is 6'5", 260Oh, and Tebow's last name does not begin with G!*-QG(*-but God does :unsure:)
:lmao:

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I think several good and bad things are going to happen this year:1) Peyton is going to soon realize DThomas,EDecker and Fells wouldn't even make the team behind Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark2) Denver is going to need a backup QB because Peyton's gonna get busted up. He's not going to make it through the entire season with that terrible offensive line, weak RBs and weak receivers.3) People are going to soon realize that John Elway was a great QB but never proven anything beyond that. He may be beloved in Denver for leading the Super Bowl winning teams but his success is over.Meanwhile, who knows what happens to Tebow.1) Backup Cam Newton? Sheesh, Cam couldn't beat out Tebow in college and can't in the pros.2) Play for Miami or Jax? Talk about a the next 2 worst receiving corps behind Denver. They'd need to revamp their offense like Denver did until they got real receivers.3) Backup Mike Vick? Look for him to play sooner rather than later. Vick can't stay healthy. It's a pretty good fit actually.4) Backup Tom Brady? I like it, Belechick likes him as obviously does McDaniels.5) Stay in Denver to backup/learn from Peyton Manning? Not the worst move Elway could make but he's probably not smart enough.And so the soap opera continues...

People keep picking parts of this entire post apart? I'll go out on a limb and say the entire thing is just stupid.
:goodposting:

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Interest in Tebow increasing

By Mike Freeman | National NFL Insider

The Denver Broncos are drawing moderate trade interest in Tim Tebow. Not spectacular. Not great. But solid.

I'm told five to six teams have called the Broncos and that the number might be higher. The compensation being discussed is a low-round draft pick, a person familiar with the situation said. This source believes Tebow will be traded for a fifth- or sixth-round pick.

For now, no one will say which teams are calling. League speculation -- and it's just general managers chatting -- is that the Jaguars are serious contenders for Tebow. No one would be surprised if he ended up in New England.

The Broncos believe they'll be able to trade Tebow by the end of the week. There remains a distinct possibility that if he isn't traded the team would simply release Tebow. There doesn't seem to be a desire by the Broncos to keep him. At least for the moment there isn't.

All of this is extremely fluid and could change. For the moment, it's a mess.

But we should have clarity very soon.

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