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Niles Paul - WR Nebraska (1 Viewer)
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Ketamine Dreams
Footballguy
Good specimen, with good moves. Not a great route runner by any means. He has issues with drops so far in his career and has made a few bone-headed plays. I think he is certainly someone to watch, but he needs to really work on his routes and his hands. Great ability though, and speed to burn.
kremenull
Footballguy
OK! Yeah, I'm not too kind to WRs who can't catch well. I hadn't seen him play aside from some of the Holiday Bowl where he had a nice game. But if he can develop some consistency with the hands, then I'd become more interested. DHB Pt. II is what I want to stay far, far, far away from.Thanks!
Barry Jive and The Uptown Five
Footballguy
as an FYI - He is Ahman Green's cousin. As a SR in high school, he went to live with Ahman and work out with him, Packer style.
Does he have Larry Fitzgerald hands... no
I wouldn't label him DHBD (DHB Deux) quite yet. QB play wasn't great last year, his first full year as a starting WR (& that's being kind to the QBs). I'm not sure what the QB play will be like for Paul's SR either. It will take a critical eye to see whether the incompletions are true drops, or a bad pass that (due to the athleticism) he was able to get a hand on but not secure.
He's got all the physical tools. It's similar to trying to project Eddie Royal or Josh Morgan from their VaTech days. None of these guys are/were playing with Sam Bradford-caliber QBs.
The best evaluation may come at an all-star game.
Does he have Larry Fitzgerald hands... no
I wouldn't label him DHBD (DHB Deux) quite yet. QB play wasn't great last year, his first full year as a starting WR (& that's being kind to the QBs). I'm not sure what the QB play will be like for Paul's SR either. It will take a critical eye to see whether the incompletions are true drops, or a bad pass that (due to the athleticism) he was able to get a hand on but not secure.
He's got all the physical tools. It's similar to trying to project Eddie Royal or Josh Morgan from their VaTech days. None of these guys are/were playing with Sam Bradford-caliber QBs.
The best evaluation may come at an all-star game.
rapidskies
Footballguy
As a husker fan I can say he is definately our best receiver but I'm not sure how well he will transition to the NFL. He has the size and speed but he seems a little stiff in the upper body and not very flexible if that makes any sense. It looks like he has a short wingspan I guess is what I'm trying to say. He set quite a few records in track in Nebraska in highschool and returns kickoff/punts for the huskers and is somewhat elusive with his speed. The biggest thing with watching him play was our passing was pretty horrible last year so while he was the top receiver, he still didn't get alot of balls thrown his way.
He did burn several teams with speed via the deep route for TD's but in the B12 championship game against Texas you could tell the safeties were not going to let that happen and I don't think we busted any big passing plays on them.
So speed good, size good, atheletic ability good, flexibility to go up and grab tough catches not so great, hands OK, route running not sure with our QB play.
Glad we have a player like him this year.
He did burn several teams with speed via the deep route for TD's but in the B12 championship game against Texas you could tell the safeties were not going to let that happen and I don't think we busted any big passing plays on them.
So speed good, size good, atheletic ability good, flexibility to go up and grab tough catches not so great, hands OK, route running not sure with our QB play.
Glad we have a player like him this year.
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
Reportedly the other Packer players thought he was a rookie who had already finished college, lol.As others have said he needs to work on his route running. I though he showed significant improvement through the course of last season, while incidentally many of the other Husker wr's regressed. I don't recall many drops (if any) later in the year. This spring there have been glowing reports about more improvement and him looking like a beast. Paul is very physical and will go hard after every ball, unless it's a lateral hitting the ground behind him on a designed screen then he will just stand and watch a Texas Tech player pick it up and take it to the house. He's a good blocker too.He's also a good kick and punt returner. Nearly took a punt to the house vs. Texas at the end of the game which set up a Nebraska win until the refs put a second back on the clock.IMO, he's a guy that you're going to have to wait and see how he performs this season. He's definitely got big play potential. He has the talent and ability to see his stock rise greatly if he reaches his potential, imo.As others have said, he was difficult to evaluate NU wr's last season due to the mid-season change in NU's offense since their qb play was so wretched.
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Don Quixote
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mcintyre1
Footballguy
I wouldn't be overly worried about the alcohol ticket. Lincoln campus police are notorious for going after college students where other cities would let things go. All the evidence you need can be found under "maintaining a disorderly house," the most ridiculous offense ever created by a police force.
Anyways, Niles is an interesting prospect. He's immensely gifted athletically, but he has issues with concentration. To the guy above saying he looked short, I don't agree. I think he's a legitimate 6'1", as he appears slightly larger than CB Prince Amukamara, also listed at 6"1", and doesn't appear out of place next to Nebraska's enormous lineman (all but the center are 6'5" or taller). Paul also broke the long-standing 10 yard dash record at Nebraska this spring, posting a 1.40 flat 10 yard dash and besting his uncle Ahman Green's mark of 1.42 seconds. Obviously, times are subject to errors, but I thought I remembered reading that Jahvid Best and CJ Spiller posted 1.48 times at the combine during their 40 yard dashes. By contrast, Chris Johnson ran a 1.40 flat 10 yard split while putting up his 4.24 forty yard dash.
Anyways, Niles is an interesting prospect. He's immensely gifted athletically, but he has issues with concentration. To the guy above saying he looked short, I don't agree. I think he's a legitimate 6'1", as he appears slightly larger than CB Prince Amukamara, also listed at 6"1", and doesn't appear out of place next to Nebraska's enormous lineman (all but the center are 6'5" or taller). Paul also broke the long-standing 10 yard dash record at Nebraska this spring, posting a 1.40 flat 10 yard dash and besting his uncle Ahman Green's mark of 1.42 seconds. Obviously, times are subject to errors, but I thought I remembered reading that Jahvid Best and CJ Spiller posted 1.48 times at the combine during their 40 yard dashes. By contrast, Chris Johnson ran a 1.40 flat 10 yard split while putting up his 4.24 forty yard dash.
Dexter Manley
Footballguy
If he was caught driving drunk again, then I'd be worried. This is just typical college kid behavior, imo. He just got unlucky.
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
As a husker fan I can say he is definately our best receiver but I'm not sure how well he will transition to the NFL. He has the size and speed but he seems a little stiff in the upper body and not very flexible if that makes any sense. It looks like he has a short wingspan I guess is what I'm trying to say. He set quite a few records in track in Nebraska in highschool and returns kickoff/punts for the huskers and is somewhat elusive with his speed. The biggest thing with watching him play was our passing was pretty horrible last year so while he was the top receiver, he still didn't get alot of balls thrown his way. He did burn several teams with speed via the deep route for TD's but in the B12 championship game against Texas you could tell the safeties were not going to let that happen and I don't think we busted any big passing plays on them. So speed good, size good, atheletic ability good, flexibility to go up and grab tough catches not so great, hands OK, route running not sure with our QB play. Glad we have a player like him this year.
Anyone have any thoughts on Niles Paul as a tight end?
He had a nice little stat line after Reid went out. I think he's up to 240ish now. Supposedly he had trouble with routes, catching, blocking (you know besides that...)... but it's always intriguing when a WR gets a shot at TE. And the Redskins had a season-long gameplan all booked for Reid.
mcintyre1
Footballguy
I'd temper expectations, but I'll admit I haven't kept up with how he's progressed with Washington. I do know that he had an admirable work ethic at Nebraska and was a very team-first guy who did what he was asked to do, so there's potential that he's improved while toiling away at practice. He always had iffy hands at Nebraska, not sure if he turned that around. On the plus side, fantasy-wise, he's pure receiver all the way, so if he gets significant snaps you should get some production.As a husker fan I can say he is definately our best receiver but I'm not sure how well he will transition to the NFL. He has the size and speed but he seems a little stiff in the upper body and not very flexible if that makes any sense. It looks like he has a short wingspan I guess is what I'm trying to say. He set quite a few records in track in Nebraska in highschool and returns kickoff/punts for the huskers and is somewhat elusive with his speed. The biggest thing with watching him play was our passing was pretty horrible last year so while he was the top receiver, he still didn't get alot of balls thrown his way. He did burn several teams with speed via the deep route for TD's but in the B12 championship game against Texas you could tell the safeties were not going to let that happen and I don't think we busted any big passing plays on them. So speed good, size good, atheletic ability good, flexibility to go up and grab tough catches not so great, hands OK, route running not sure with our QB play. Glad we have a player like him this year.
Anyone have any thoughts on Niles Paul as a tight end?
He had a nice little stat line after Reid went out. I think he's up to 240ish now. Supposedly he had trouble with routes, catching, blocking (you know besides that...)... but it's always intriguing when a WR gets a shot at TE. And the Redskins had a season-long gameplan all booked for Reid.
Skins fan here. It always seems like Paul is the guy with "potential." He's definitely a very hard worker, has a good attitude, plays Special Teams, etc. Shanahan actually said he wanted him to be like S Sharpe but he just never has been that true TE who would get you loads of production. I think he may be a serviceable backup from a FFL perspective, but I also wouldn't be surprised for him to put up games of catching one or two balls (remember they have lots of other weapons and well, Griffin is the one delivering the ball...)I'd temper expectations, but I'll admit I haven't kept up with how he's progressed with Washington. I do know that he had an admirable work ethic at Nebraska and was a very team-first guy who did what he was asked to do, so there's potential that he's improved while toiling away at practice. He always had iffy hands at Nebraska, not sure if he turned that around. On the plus side, fantasy-wise, he's pure receiver all the way, so if he gets significant snaps you should get some production.As a husker fan I can say he is definately our best receiver but I'm not sure how well he will transition to the NFL. He has the size and speed but he seems a little stiff in the upper body and not very flexible if that makes any sense. It looks like he has a short wingspan I guess is what I'm trying to say. He set quite a few records in track in Nebraska in highschool and returns kickoff/punts for the huskers and is somewhat elusive with his speed. The biggest thing with watching him play was our passing was pretty horrible last year so while he was the top receiver, he still didn't get alot of balls thrown his way. He did burn several teams with speed via the deep route for TD's but in the B12 championship game against Texas you could tell the safeties were not going to let that happen and I don't think we busted any big passing plays on them. So speed good, size good, atheletic ability good, flexibility to go up and grab tough catches not so great, hands OK, route running not sure with our QB play. Glad we have a player like him this year.
Anyone have any thoughts on Niles Paul as a tight end?
He had a nice little stat line after Reid went out. I think he's up to 240ish now. Supposedly he had trouble with routes, catching, blocking (you know besides that...)... but it's always intriguing when a WR gets a shot at TE. And the Redskins had a season-long gameplan all booked for Reid.
I would say regard him as a backup FFL prospect in the sense that he probably won't give you a gooseegg, but he's not likely to put up good FFL numbers...
The other thing to keep in mind is that the Redskins also have Logan Paulsen, who, while more of a blocking TE, can definitely catch...so Paul is not gonna be the only TE getting playing time -- Paulsen might even get more snaps when all is said and done.Skins fan here. It always seems like Paul is the guy with "potential." He's definitely a very hard worker, has a good attitude, plays Special Teams, etc. Shanahan actually said he wanted him to be like S Sharpe but he just never has been that true TE who would get you loads of production. I think he may be a serviceable backup from a FFL perspective, but I also wouldn't be surprised for him to put up games of catching one or two balls (remember they have lots of other weapons and well, Griffin is the one delivering the ball...)I'd temper expectations, but I'll admit I haven't kept up with how he's progressed with Washington. I do know that he had an admirable work ethic at Nebraska and was a very team-first guy who did what he was asked to do, so there's potential that he's improved while toiling away at practice. He always had iffy hands at Nebraska, not sure if he turned that around. On the plus side, fantasy-wise, he's pure receiver all the way, so if he gets significant snaps you should get some production.As a husker fan I can say he is definately our best receiver but I'm not sure how well he will transition to the NFL. He has the size and speed but he seems a little stiff in the upper body and not very flexible if that makes any sense. It looks like he has a short wingspan I guess is what I'm trying to say. He set quite a few records in track in Nebraska in highschool and returns kickoff/punts for the huskers and is somewhat elusive with his speed. The biggest thing with watching him play was our passing was pretty horrible last year so while he was the top receiver, he still didn't get alot of balls thrown his way. He did burn several teams with speed via the deep route for TD's but in the B12 championship game against Texas you could tell the safeties were not going to let that happen and I don't think we busted any big passing plays on them. So speed good, size good, atheletic ability good, flexibility to go up and grab tough catches not so great, hands OK, route running not sure with our QB play. Glad we have a player like him this year.
Anyone have any thoughts on Niles Paul as a tight end?
He had a nice little stat line after Reid went out. I think he's up to 240ish now. Supposedly he had trouble with routes, catching, blocking (you know besides that...)... but it's always intriguing when a WR gets a shot at TE. And the Redskins had a season-long gameplan all booked for Reid.
I would say regard him as a backup FFL prospect in the sense that he probably won't give you a gooseegg, but he's not likely to put up good FFL numbers...
SaintsInDome2006
Footballguy
What becomes of Niles Paul now with the concussion? Next game vs Seattle, nothing easy there (if he can even play), then @AZ, and Reed could be coming back somewhere around then.
Any hope of a split moving forward? The hit semed like a sudden end to a great run, but I get he has earned his way into the gameplan somehow, which affects Reed's prospects when he comes back too. He sure as hell held on to that ball though, tough guy.
Any hope of a split moving forward? The hit semed like a sudden end to a great run, but I get he has earned his way into the gameplan somehow, which affects Reed's prospects when he comes back too. He sure as hell held on to that ball though, tough guy.
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Ever Present Lurker
Footballguy
That's ok! He be back!
KellysHeroes
Footballguy
Casting Couch
Footballguy
Fireinside
Footballguy
This thread will never sleep as long the injuries keep on pilling to Jordan Reed.
I have positive feeling about Niles Paul... he's doing what he can to make himself respected TE.
buck naked
Footballguy
loose circuits
Footballguy
is it a coincidence he wears Shannon Sharpe's 84? Similar type of players IMO
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Doubt it's a coincidence. That was the comparison Shanahan made when he drafted him.
People do need to realize that a ton of the value he brings to the Skins is on ST's. They like him as a receiver, but he was paid pretty well because he's an absolute stud on ST's. Just in case anyone was using the contract they gave him to project a larger role on offense in the future.
His best bet to take more playing time from Reed (when healthy) is to become a better blocker. He gained weight this offseason for that purpose, and Reed can't block anything. But McCloughan and Gruden want to pound the ball (and, I would guess, allow Griffin to pass off of PA, which is something he destroyed defenses with as a rookie) and the more Paul can help with that, the more he'll be on the field.
Faust
MVP
Niles Paul stands out in spring workouts:
http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/17904/niles-paul-stands-out-in-spring-workouts
http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/17904/niles-paul-stands-out-in-spring-workouts
Fireinside
Footballguy
Nice, have owned the guy for some time and I have to say it's looking good.
Tight end position is the most difficult to learn in NFL (if you don't count QB)
and Niles is still work in progress, but so far so good.
Tight end position is the most difficult to learn in NFL (if you don't count QB)
and Niles is still work in progress, but so far so good.
Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Apparently he injured his shoulder in practice today. Hopefully it is nothing serious.
(HULK)
(Smash)
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/18845/redskins-te-niles-pauls-shoulder-ok
Niles Paul's shoulder ok
Niles Paul's shoulder ok
Stealthycat
Footballguy
bump Finley ?
I mean bump Reed ?
I mean bump Reed ?
squistion
Footballguy
Raiderfan32904
Footballguy
@RapSheet: #Redskins starting TE Niles Paul has suffered a dislocated ankle, source said. MRI to see if the ligaments are intact. Crushing blow.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Out for the year.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Man, feel bad for him. And the Skins TE situation, of course. But he's been the ultimate team guy since being drafted, changing positions, working on his hands and blocking and route running, putting on 25 lbs and earning the starting job over a very talented Reed due to his health, hard work, and well-roundedness...not to mention that he has continued to be a ST's beast all along and a leader.
Terrible timing just as he's peaking.
Terrible timing just as he's peaking.
Faust
MVP
