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GOB
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Keith R
The Don
At Welterweight after tonight, I favor Spence over Crawford, probably 2-1. So I would have to rank Spence higher
furleybaby
Footballguy
Spence/Crawford still a tough call for me, size advantage not as pronounced in that one.
Spence is a helluva boxer. Nevermind the power (which is hellacious), but the guy just doesn't put many punches wrong. He's extremely responsible defensively, he sets up well with the jab and varies his attack, and his defensive anticipation is really good. He looks good inside, he makes excellent adjustments, etc. etc. It's a joy to watch him fight. That and the size advantage, Mikey was just up against a wall.
Spence is a helluva boxer. Nevermind the power (which is hellacious), but the guy just doesn't put many punches wrong. He's extremely responsible defensively, he sets up well with the jab and varies his attack, and his defensive anticipation is really good. He looks good inside, he makes excellent adjustments, etc. etc. It's a joy to watch him fight. That and the size advantage, Mikey was just up against a wall.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
True but Mikey is a beast. He also did a decent job rolling a lot of those punches. He did say he is going back down to 140 so i think he recognized the power.
but no doubt folks are gonna say “he didn’t put down a lightweight so he’s not strong”
Ilov80s
Footballguy
It raises some questions for me about how much power Spence will have when he inevitably moves up
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I can see that but I think Crawford is more versatile and creative. It would make a great fight.
Keith R
The Don
It certainly would, and it's far from a sure thing. But other than being more battle-tested (at lighter weights), there's not much Crawford brings that Spence doesn't match or exceed. Speed, power, stamina, technique, strategy. Spence's chin hasn't been truly tested so there's that possibly.
Credit to Mikey's Chuvalo-like chin but he was beaten up.
Spence/Paq in July seems like the next fight. Bigger payday for Spence and a HOF scalp but I don't see Manny as much of a threat at this point.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
Mikey too a ton of punches but he was never hurt or deterred. Mikey was just too short/small to be able fight back. Spence was almost always out of reach. I’m a huge Spence fan and think he cruises through Manny as well. I’m just saying the win over Mikey wasn’t impressive. It wasn’t unimpressive either.
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GOB
Footballguy
You're correct about him not having much in the way of opponents.
Teofimo would be interesting but he has a lot of big money fights ahead of him as he keeps piling up these highlight KOs.
I think Loma's next fight will be critical to see where he goes.
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Footballguy
Lopez is supposedly going to move up to 140 next year, and that'll close the window on a fight, as Lomachenko's already smallish for 135 and is unlikely to ever go up any further. My guess is that even though a fight would possibly elevate both (Canelo's loss to Floyd ultimately didn't harm his career), Arum's not going to let them fight.
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Footballguy
I don't think a b-side's won a round all night.
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PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Looking forward to this. They have an all access for it as well.Keith R said:
also munguia is fighting tonight on DAZN.
next week Khan Crawford. Giggity.
GOB
Footballguy
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
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Footballguy
They're all free if you look in the right places and have a good ad-blocker.Ilov80s said:
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Footballguy
Really enjoy the shtick of him going to Lomachenko/Crolla and staying on his phone the whole time.im looking forward to both. Will be sitting ringside as well.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
Sure and so were the previous models but I am not opposed to paying for things....this is just ridiculous thoughThey're all free if you look in the right places and have a good ad-blocker.
Keith R
The Don
Also, even if you can find free methods of watching fights, such a split-up marketplace means great fights aren't being made. I'm with you
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Footballguy
Agree, that part's always been an issue. One can only hope that the money becomes so attractive at some point that people are willing to cross lines to make it happen. But from the PBC's perspective, is a Spence/Crawford fight more profitable than a Spence/Porter one?
Keith R
The Don
Keith R
The Don
How are others feeling about Crawford-Khan as a PPV ME? I would certainly watch if on a regular channel, might finally pull the trigger on ESPN+ if it was on that, but I'm not planning on ordering this. I've always liked Khan as well as Crawford but this is not a PPV-worthy fight for me. A stronger undercard could have made it more of a debate IMO.
shadrap
Footballguy
agree 100%. Kahn has failed in all his big fights. Good fighter with a glass jaw. IMO
Won't be paying for this one. Good luck to both though. My hat is off to anyone who enters the ring.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Tickets to the fight are basically the same price as the ppv. And there are still tons of tickets left. Im going to the fight so looking forward to it but ppv is tough. The undercard isnt bad however. Lopez and stevenson.
Keith R
The Don
Yeah, going to the fight is a different question altogether, though not an option for me.
Good talent on the undercard but not expecting them to be challenged. Say what you will about Don King but he put together amazing undercards.
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Footballguy
Stevenson and Teofimo have good matchups for where they are in their career, Bob's moving them both pretty aggressively. Lopez looks like he's going to run out of viable non-Lomachenko opponents very soon.
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Heard kell brook will be in attendance to challenge the winner. 
wonder if Spence will show up just because.
also I’m surprised Stevenson is fighting after his incident.
wonder if Spence will show up just because.
also I’m surprised Stevenson is fighting after his incident.
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Footballguy
Dan Rafael made exactly zero mention of the Shakur Stevenson tape. Kinda lets you know which way the wind's blowing on that one.Heard kell brook will be in attendance to challenge the winner.
wonder if Spence will show up just because.
also I’m surprised Stevenson is fighting after his incident.
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Ilov80s
Footballguy
PinkydaPimp
Footballguy
Im a Khan fan and i think the first half of the fight should be very interesting and a great fight. Worth watching. However, i dont have confidence that Khan wont expose his chin at some point and Bud is patient and very smart. But Khan does have a chance. Just has to be perfect for 12 rounds which we havent really seen in these big fights. im looking forward to this fight.
Kenny Powers
Footballguy
Looks like a good card to me
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