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I get that - but I feel Brown and Arians would be a good match. I feel Brown is Ok with a good second fiddle as long as the second fiddle is told he's the second fiddle. Just saying-I think the Arians-Brown combo should not be overlooked as a dark horse for laning him. I don't see Pittsburgh trading him to another AFC team if they can help it.
I was thinking about a trade to the Pats and I don't know how many draft picks / players the Steelers would have to get in order to pull the trigger on this deal. Like if the Pats offered a Ricky Williams type of deal, would the Steelers even do it then?
I was thinking about a trade to TB as well. However, I was thinking about AB for M. Evans straight up - which is crazy and will never happen
Arians just came out and said that Brown isn't the same guy the Steelers drafted and that he needs to cut out the dramatics. It doesn't sound to me that he's interested, unless that's his way of saying "figure things out and we can make this happen."Bankerguy said:
I want them to trade him outside of the AFC. Other than that, I just want them to get the best return possible.
JG's contract was heavily frontloaded. After 2019 it is very team friendly (high base salaries, but little dead money) and he could be cut prior to the new league years starting before more guarantees kick in. They will have paid him $60M if he implodes and they cut him prior to 2020, but they were sitting on over $100M when they extended him. They are still near the top (#11 I think) in current cap space available with moves they can make to get more.tjnc09 said:
You understand that the Patriots don't work this way, right? They will take on problem superstars on the cheap when other teams give up on them but there is zero chance that they will give up a great deal of equity for AB.
Of course! I thought it was obvious I was talking about a hypothetical situation that the Pats would never do. I was talking about, hypothetically, what would the Steelers need to get in return for AB from the Pats.
Wouldn't mind watching Mike Evans punch him in the face, kinda like this.Bankerguy said:
It wouldn't surprise me if Brown is getting it out there that SF is where he really wants to go, and I won't be surprised if he eventually lets it out that he won't play for anyone but them, making the 49ers the only viable option when it comes to trading him.
He's been putting out subtle hints on twitter since end of season about wanting to be a 49'er so in some small way he is putting it out their already.
I'm sure "regular" Le'veon would have helped but he didn't want to be there anymore and appeared to leave the team hanging. Not sure another bad attitude would benefit the club house. I imagine that both sides, if given the same opportunity, might play their cards differently.
I am not sure what AB is saying-- Arians was the Steelers OC when AB was selected.
Yep. Only thing he is doing is driving down his cost and if it gets too low the Steelers might not trade him.
Antonio really has a grasp on the English language lol. Geez , I didnt understand the majority of that mess.
I don't understand how his quote could be perceived as tampering? And are coaches really not allowed to discuss other players? What if they say something positive about another player? I didn't see the interview but I imagine he was asked a question related to AB on the Adam Schefter podcast. Is he not allowed to answer truthfully?
You can decide for yourself but I'd start reading around page 5, number 4, which I cut and pasted below.
I will continue to hold out false hope that AB will make amends. I still think he's the best WR in football at what is now a team friendly contract(and that might be one of his issues). Just don't see how we get better losing our third All-Pro type player in last 13 months. Unfortunately he's just not giving Steelers any choice.
Arians did this right. The key no-no is “expressing interest” as in a desire to have the player on your team.
Once the word gets out among the teams that you are shopping a player the whole league knows you are trying to move him. I don't think that is a big deal.
Unless you're the GM of a team that hasn't had an elite skill position player in years and think he could help you win.
Ha! Says the guy who got mad at me for trying to help someone's grasp of the emglish language.
SF is 30th out of 32 in the standings. That's not bottom dweller enough for your hate? why would someone trade for AB, with 3 years left on his deal, "team friendly as you put it, and then pay him more? they dont have to. AB can hold out, sure, but why would you not only give up a premium pick but also destroy your cap space for a guy who is more about himself than the team?
30th out of 32, but look at the roster they started the season with and the roster they ended with. They are a team likely headed in the right direction. send him to a team that isnt headed in the right direction. raiders are perfect, and maybe even Arizona. two teams that might get worse before they get better. and no, I dont think its possible to be worse than 32nd out of 32 teams
More likely than not, AB wants to freshen up his contract and reset it to market value. Why wouldn’t he?? And the only way to revisit the contract is to force a trade and make somebody else pay him. The teams considering trading for him would be over the moon to have him playing on the cheap for 3 years, but AB won’t be a happy camper playing on a below market deal. Not a chance. AB wants to get paid again and that’s why the Steelers will get a third and not a first
I guess I didn't spell it out well enough. So....don't give the little b@@@@ what he wants (San fran) then send his a@@ to another sorry team. Got it?
Brown uses different phrasing and actually uses punctuation in his tweets. Might be his own sock puppet if he's really created a different persona for it... But that seems like a lot of careful planning...
Funny because when I read that article I had a whole different interpretation then you and did in fact come away thinking his teammates are enamored of him, would welcome him back and in no way is he is some kind of locker room cancer or bad teammate. Seems like his worst sin is running a little late sometimes.
Kind of like he was always pushing the envelope to see how far he could go. I don't think that's good for any locker room long term. I believe it's the coach's job to treat everyone the same, or try and come close. I know there are exceptions with QBs. . That's one thing I respected about Tom Landry, who players hated to play for, but respected him after they retired. Players don't have to like a coach, but he must command the locker room. I think if a coach shows favorites he stands a chance of losing all the players.
I did not get a sense AB was trying to push the envelope at all. Seems his biggest sin before week 17 this past year was tardiness.
I definitely could be wrong about Landry, but my impression of him was a strict disciplinarian for his entire team.
Hard to not find a coach from that era who was not a strict disiplinarian. Players were a lot more inclined to toe the line in those days.
