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Great point. Haley ran the WCO and Roethlisberger hated it. I don't know about AB. He seemed to thrive even within its confines, though I totally agree with you about Roethlisberger's holding of the ball while Antonio scrambled to get open. Will Carr do that?
I still can't believe the contract they gave Gruden- talk about a freaking legend. He's the Antonio Brown of coaches.
This is why I think its not a great deal even though the draft pick cost was cheap.
Pretty sure you are taking my statement the wrong way and I probably could have done a better job clarifying. I work and deserve the right to choose where. However, in my job I also have a contract that I agreed upon. If I don’t like that contract later it still holds certain parameters that I previously agreed to. Anyone can dispute anything and that is their right. As a fan I just don’t like the idea of the NFL becoming similar to the NBA where players seemingly pick and choose their destination as I feel like it changes the dynamic of the league as a whole in a negative way. This is strictly from a fan perspective.
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They didn't win very many playoff games with the Ben/Bell/Brown and never made a super bowl so they "pissed away their window" even when all those players were on the team. Over paying two players for not winning playoff games was not something the Steelers wanted to do.
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AB also gathered a ton of YAC on short slants when given a cushion and that is a bread-and-butter of the WC.
They have something like 4 of the top 40 picks. They could completely revolutionize their offense by getting Kyler, Hockensen, AJ Brown and Josh Jacobs.
I get that but didn't they have the team built? With a 37 year old HOF QB, I would think a GM would want to go all in on 1 or 2 more years for a final SB run. You are right that they hadn't won many playoff games but maybe that means a coaching change is needed? Also I think in theory last year and this year would be their prime year as they finally found 2 other players to supplement the offense. Martavis never panned out but Juju looks incredible and Conner is talented too. There was so much potential there that management couldn't harness to it's full potential.
They made Brown the highest paid receiver in the NFL. They made an offer to Bell that would make him the highest paid RB in the NFL. It's not like the Steelers were giving/offering chump change.
It wasn't bad but I think by this point Alshon and Jarvis Landry had bigger deals than AB.
If they did this and used those 4 premium picks on D would everyone still assume the Raiders can't be winners?
That's always going to happen with an expanding cap though. If a player believes he deserves to be the highest paid player, he is going to have to sign a series of one year deals making him the highest paid guy every year. But players aren't going to take the risk of getting hurt. But they want the best of both worlds when it's not realistic. Except in this case where the Steelers gave in of course.
Oh I misread your quote then. I thought you said Oakland was a worse position than those other 3 places.
...the draft??
Not a fan of his game to be honest but with him as QB they did got 12-4 and he finished in top 5 MVP voting so hard to say it's not possible with him as QB.
Elite players at the offensive skill positions doesn't guarantee much. Look at Pittsburgh, who had these guys in their prime.
just 2 weeks ago he was mocked to miami... anything is possible. several years ago it "wasn't possible" for Aaron Rodgers to fall out of the top 5
I think by mid-season Brown is going to miss Big Ben. Ben is a doosh but he knows the game and how to get the ball to his playmakers,
But when he leaves Pitts for Oakland he is criticized for not caring about winning so if you use that as a comp.....
I wouldn't sign Bell if I was them either but you make a good point. They still need a QB......
There would probably be oh, about 31 teams that would be reluctant to deal with the Steelers in the future.
I get what you are saying, and Brown doing it the way he did was awful and completely screwed the Steelers, but player movement is not a bad thing. I hate this idea that any player drafted in the NFL can basically be stuck with that team for like 5 or 6 years (thanks to franchise tagging and whatnot). History has shown that situation and what team you are drafted by does matter more often than not, and it's hard not to feel bad for those great players coming out of college who get drafted into a bad situation and/or an inept franchise and thus have a much lesser chance of succeeding.
Brown is just the latest in a long list of diva WRs. His contract seems reasonable and he did have three years remaining. I think his complaints on that front are unwarranted. Apparently, his relationship with Ben was a big part of the problem and I understand how that could frustrate AB. The one thing that really bothers me is he couldn't share the spotlight with Juju. Tough to win as a team with guys like that...
I keep seeing this narrative in this thread and on Twitter. This a lazy take. Considering the surrounding talent LY Carr had a very good season under Gruden. Carr threw for 4,000 yds and had a career best 7.3 YPA. Granted his TD total was disappointing but again he had very little help at the WR position. Carr also had two rookie tackles protecting him. I doubt many QBs could do much better under those conditions. If AB crashes and burns with Raiders Carr will not be the reason.
I 100% agree about the length of contract in regards to tagging for sure. It is a ludicrous process that gives the team too much power over the player and should be done away with IMO. Again as a fan, I am just hoping we don’t start seeing too much of “I am not happy” and forcing the teams hand under contract (and then being able to dictate where they go by refusing certain options.) IMO there still needs to be a employer-employee hierarchy much like there is in the real world in order to keep the sport interesting and structural enough to keep fans from going bonkers.
