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Antonio Brown - Out of his Head - Out of the League

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3 minutes ago, Anarchy99 said:

Clearly we are all getting AB fatigue, but even the intimidating text wasn't going to be investigated by the police and would not be a chargeable offense in Massachusetts. So nothing truly criminal there. Dumb? Shady? Absolutely. I go back to when this all started . . . so far AB has not been investigated by law enforcement to even be considered for a crime. The best thing the league could do is to cite him for conduct detrimental to the league . . . but all the other stuff doesn't have a lot of teeth and will set a pretty rocky precedent. 

If the league investigates and takes action against Brown with regard to the civil suit allegation, that could cause Brown to lose the civil case and have him be found liable to have to pay her a big chunk of change. All her attorneys would need to do would be to say in court his own employer disciplined him over it. I am not sure we want the NFL investigating legal matters and having their decisions used as as a pendulum to swing court cases. And mind you, I never was on Brown's side . . . I only was on the the side of someone having to prove allegations.

What the NFL does or doesn't do won't have any bearing on the civil action.  And visa-versa.

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2 minutes ago, Walking Boot said:

 

I get that the intimidation wasn't a criminal thing. I just think Roger will have a dim view of a player trying to sabotage the NFL's official investigation by threatening witnesses against him. I don't know what the precedent is for that, but the NFL can certainly police itself. The league can definitely take action against someone for doing something not criminal but still interfering with league operations. I think it might not matter that the action isn't technically criminal, the internal integrity of the commissioner's office and the league itself became an injured party.

Was the NFL even intending to interview the artist that received the harassing/intimidating texts?

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3 hours ago, Soulfly3 said:

sooooooooo, has the furniture being thrown into a pool / condo damage case been mentioned yet?

More Trouble.

Somebody needs to upgrade their pool cameras. 

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6 hours ago, Soulfly3 said:

sooooooooo, has the furniture being thrown into a pool / condo damage case been mentioned yet?

More Trouble.

This image appears on the left side of the page when I click that, so thank you.

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I guess AB has a pretty good case to get his signing bonus from the Patriots.  No way the Patriots can say they are not paying AB because he didn’t disclose the civil case against him.  Even though AB didn’t disclose it, the civil case was made public right after the Patriots signed AB and they not only kept him on the team, they even let him play week 2.   So the civil case is a non issue. 

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With all due respect, it all comes down to the language in the contract, and the fact that the Patriots didn’t choose to pursue remedies as soon as they became aware of his breach of contract would have zero impact on their ability to do so at any point in the future.

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Seeing the Patriots get boned out of some money wouldn't hurt my feelings any. But my joy at that happening pales compared to the disgust I'd feel seeing Brown profit from his behavior.

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I wonder when or if Mr. Big Chest is ever going to come to the realization that he should have behaved himself instead of being a repeated jerk.

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6 minutes ago, Godsbrother said:

I wonder when or if Mr. Big Chest is ever going to come to the realization that he should have behaved himself instead of being a repeated jerk.

I think his troubles go a lot deeper than that. He sounds mentally ill.

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5 minutes ago, rockaction said:

I think his troubles go a lot deeper than that. He sounds mentally ill.

:goodposting:

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7 hours ago, Kevrunner said:

I guess AB has a pretty good case to get his signing bonus from the Patriots.  No way the Patriots can say they are not paying AB because he didn’t disclose the civil case against him.  Even though AB didn’t disclose it, the civil case was made public right after the Patriots signed AB and they not only kept him on the team, they even let him play week 2.   So the civil case is a non issue. 

Most contracts have a clause that states something along the lines "Failure to act does not constitute a waiver of rights under the contract..."

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2 hours ago, Godsbrother said:

I wonder when or if Mr. Big Chest is ever going to come to the realization that he should have behaved himself instead of being a repeated jerk.

I think the issue is that he in know way views himself as a jerk. His world view is centered on himself. The concept of him being wrong is just beyond his comprehension. I doubt that changes.

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1 hour ago, Godsbrother said:

I wonder when or if Mr. Big Chest is ever going to come to the realization that he should have behaved himself instead of being a repeated jerk.

In the litany of crazy things about this entire situation, the craziest is how easily fixable it was. 

I'm sorry if I made people uncomfortable / I'm using this to grow as a person / I will cooperate fully with any investigation / duffel bags of money to accusers / NDAs / pay any outstanding bills / attend fake therapy sessions / televised Q&A with a sympathetic reporter / I want to thank the NFL and my teammates for standing by me during this time / Now I just want to concentrate on football and move forward with my life / shut up / play football / sign mega deal in the off-season

If he wanted to get totally nuts he could have worked with the Patriots to match his 7 figure contribution to a charity for women.

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7 minutes ago, Statorama said:

In the litany of crazy things about this entire situation, the craziest is how easily fixable it was. 

I'm sorry if I made people uncomfortable / I'm using this to grow as a person / I will cooperate fully with any investigation / duffel bags of money to accusers / NDAs / pay any outstanding bills / attend fake therapy sessions / televised Q&A with a sympathetic reporter / I want to thank the NFL and my teammates for standing by me during this time / Now I just want to concentrate on football and move forward with my life / shut up / play football / sign mega deal in the off-season

If he wanted to get totally nuts he could have worked with the Patriots to match his 7 figure contribution to a charity for women.

People that are mentally not right don't think rationally about themselves or their situations, really.

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6 minutes ago, rockaction said:

People that are mentally not right don't think rationally about themselves or their situations, really.

I really thought that was his latest angle, get diagnosed as bi-polar and blame everything on that.  Then go on the tour being the spokesman for getting things right.

As a general rule, people are sympathetic when someone caught up in a web of madness (great band name) seeks treatment (seeking treatment is also a great band name). 

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check out @ab to see his twitter battle with other nfl players, specifically eric weddle.

this man is completely losing the plot. no... lost the plot. he is getting DESTROYED in his mentions.

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11 hours ago, rockaction said:

I think his troubles go a lot deeper than that. He sounds mentally ill.

There are some people who come from having very little and then when they finally make it, they go a little overboard with excess.  AB clearly did some of that. Then when you add to it, people begin telling them they are the bee's knees, and they start taking more and more egregious liberties.  AB had been SO good for so long that he literally ran completely unchecked and became a victim of his own success to the point his but can't cash the checks his ego has written.  

I don't think he is mentally ill.  I think he is over the top feeling the impact of feeling privelaged and entitled. He basically had nobody to check himself before he wrecked himself.

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21 hours ago, rockaction said:

People that are mentally not right don't think rationally about themselves or their situations, really.

Not to mention most of his mental energies these days are undoubtedly on his studies.  Mid terms are only weeks away.

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Even if he does play again he's gonna get lit up by someone on Pittsburgh, Oakland, New England, Baltimore or any team Vontez Burfect plays for etc. He'll probably get knocked out by someone he owes money to or a sibling of somebody he's raped. He should just leave the country in a hot air balloon. 

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Brown should have tweeted a picture of his Super Bowl ring to Baker to show him what it means to win something in this league. Oh wait . . .

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2 minutes ago, Faust said:

Just make sure the Raiders and NFL reps have the video of AB celebrating his release. 

This is up to an arbitrator. They have last word and its naive to think they dont have eyes and ears even in something so black and white. 

I see a lot of people always think things are a slam dunk, nothing is a slam dunk here for either side. 

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1 minute ago, Twenty-Four Eighty-Four said:

How the heck do you file a grievance for a 2020 option that clearly wasn't picked up as you couldn't even make it through 2019 with the team?

All about the "brand" here. Fact: For most players, once you're off the field you are NOTHING... irrelevant... cease to exist.

How long do you think AB can live with that? He will do whatever it takes to remain in NFL discussions on a weekly basis.

 

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One should never argue with the village idiot. Onlookers can’t tell the difference between the two. 

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18 minutes ago, Grid71 said:

One should never argue with the village idiot. Onlookers can’t tell the difference between the two. 

Is he really an idiot if he gets all this money and doesnt even need to practice/play?

I mean, yes he is an idiot, but if he is doing this on purpose he is a slick idiot.  

I really dont have a clue what to think cause this is all crazy.  

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On 9/26/2019 at 11:58 AM, Statorama said:

I really thought that was his latest angle, get diagnosed as bi-polar and blame everything on that.  Then go on the tour being the spokesman for getting things right.

As a general rule, people are sympathetic when someone caught up in a web of madness (great band name) seeks treatment (seeking treatment is also a great band name). 

As someone who has Aspergers (Autism at a highly functional level) it just really bothers me when people use a neurological or mental illness as a reason for not acting like a good human and not being accountable for themselves. Now I'm sure you are talking about the other of AB get diagnosed and they can say because it wasn't known already he was not on proper treatment that could've helped curtail or prevent his behavior. 

I really hate when people use the race card or mental handicap as a reason to not take accountability for themselves. I've seen it at my job first hand people doing these things. AB can still come out and say hey I'm now diagnosed with "X" but also I do take accountability for my past transgressions as well. In now way does my diagnoses defend me from some of my actions 

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29 minutes ago, DJackson10 said:

As someone who has Aspergers (Autism at a highly functional level) it just really bothers me when people use a neurological or mental illness as a reason for not acting like a good human and not being accountable for themselves. Now I'm sure you are talking about the other of AB get diagnosed and they can say because it wasn't known already he was not on proper treatment that could've helped curtail or prevent his behavior. 

I really hate when people use the race card or mental handicap as a reason to not take accountability for themselves. I've seen it at my job first hand people doing these things. AB can still come out and say hey I'm now diagnosed with "X" but also I do take accountability for my past transgressions as well. In now way does my diagnoses defend me from some of my actions 

Good on you DJ, I totally agree.  AB has the kind of money that buys any diagnosis he wants, and I'm glad he didn't go that way.

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1 minute ago, Statorama said:

Good on you DJ, I totally agree.  AB has the kind of money that buys any diagnosis he wants, and I'm glad he didn't go that way.

I was diagnosed in 2010 about 5 months before my pop-pop died. I've gone out of my way to read and research on my diagnosis and finding others athletes and such who also have it. To not get too political This girl Greta who's fighting for Climate change is autistic too. We develop interest in certain passions at a young age and will usually become so called "experts" or very knowledgeable on said topic. SO it really aggravates me when people say her parents are using her, she shouldn't be around big crowds etc. People with autism all react to situations different. Some of us can't take loud noises where others like myself it's something that soothes us. My passion has always been History (American, WW2, Civil War, Ancient Greece and Rome, Crusades, Native American, Viking, etc) as well as sports. Hers is Climate change and how the earth works. Wouldn't be surprised if she becomes some sort of scientist eventually with her passion. 

Whats my point? Basically we don't let our diagnosis effect us in the long run. We adapt to our situations as best we can. Sometimes we might need to relay to people hey I have this so they can accommodate us better and work easier with us and make their job easier too. After some recent reading I thought I was terrible at math. I use to be able to do multiplecation tables in my head fast among other things. I changed schools and was given a whole need Math program where we literally had to show our work. That isn't me. When we think of stuff it just comes to us. Trying to explain how we figured out an equation or this formula "showing our work" is like you trying to read the license plate of a car going 90 on the highway compared to maybe 20 or being parked. I didn't go use my issues as a reason I was bad at math. In college I went to a community and graduated within 4 yrs. I did everything I could math wise to get better tutors, individual learn on my own pace, class room, I had a professor who had a son in Special Ed so took the extra time with me to study and figure it all out. I could go to his office and put the answers down in no time when it came to doing the actual test It went out of my head completely. Not sure how to explain it but I didn't just say well I have this its why I suck at math  

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1 hour ago, RandyDB said:

Does AB know this thread has dropped off the 1st page?

Fire up the "Definitely NOT Antonio Brown" alias 

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Peter King says he's seen the language in AB's contract and he will definitely not being getting his $$ however he has a case on Garanteed Signing Bonus as the League and NFL PA counts that as money already owned. Add to it the Patriots allowed him to play after the allegations and AB should get his 9M 

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Patriots are going to use the incident of A Brown releasing the pictures of the Women's kids on Twitter(?)
as the reason for the release. He's not getting paid another dime. 

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1 hour ago, nightmare said:

Patriots are going to use the incident of A Brown releasing the pictures of the Women's kids on Twitter(?)
as the reason for the release. He's not getting paid another dime. 

He won’t get another dime other than his $9,000,000 signing bonus, no way the Patriots will be able to get away from that.   They took a big risk in signing AB and they will pay for it.

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