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sublimeone
Footballguy
that seems like a good deal and would be a fairly fun car to driveLooking at these now as a "sensible" second car, relegating the wrangler to nice weather / weekend driving.
Pretty well set on the 4.6L 8cyl. Test drove one Sunday and was very impressed. Very good ride and the thing was FAST. Nearly 400HP and 0-60 in 5.5sec is the claimed time and I believe it.
Crossed over 100mph on the on-ramp before I was fully merged onto the freeway. Smooth even at that speed. Interior is pretty well loaded at the price point (power everything, heated/cooled seats, smart cruise control (sensors keep distance), rain sensing wipers,
I'm not big on tying up a ton of cash in a depreciating asset, but I've got a dealership with a formal offer of a 2010 in cherry condition with 55k miles for under $16k ($16,499 off the lot). Car was ~$40k new and KBB is $21ish, as is NADA.
There are a few issues to watch for (2009 rear suspension was a bit rough), Early 2012 V8s "drink" oil, Pre 2013 Nav systems can crap out on occasion, etc.... but overall owners seem to be very happy with them.
AhrnCityPahnder
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Yenrub
Footballguy
The do have the Azera between the Sonata and Genesis but they do a poor job advertising it. It's a really nice car.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Maybe the Koreans are more egalitarianian. The Equus is the car that wealthy SKs have drivers for.
EYLive
Footballguy
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Insoxicated
Sonata has been creeping upmarket as well... it's in the 20's and low 30's range. Genesis is 40's and low 50s range.
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
flapgreen
Footballguy
Looking at a veracruz this weekend. They're no longer in production but have good reviews and are affordable. We need a midsize suv that's dependable.
fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
I test drove a new Genesis about 6 months back. I was shocked at how nice it was. Car had every bell and whistle, drove very nice, and was extremely spacious.
We would've gotten it, but it was just a little too big for what we needed. The lease also wasn't very attractive, but we looked at it right after it was redesigned.
After getting a close look at this car, I view Hyundai in a whole new light, very nice cars.
We would've gotten it, but it was just a little too big for what we needed. The lease also wasn't very attractive, but we looked at it right after it was redesigned.
After getting a close look at this car, I view Hyundai in a whole new light, very nice cars.
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Yeah their leases are terrible given the hard depreciation hits they're still seeing. Lexus is killing the lease game right now in comparison.
AhrnCityPahnder
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Brownsfan
Footballguy
Bought a 2010 Veracruz last March for 15k. Love it. Comfortable ride with lots of room. Not the most agile but it is a land cruiser
Mr. Ected
Footballguy
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
They're still for sale now -- 14s and 15s on the lots. As to if they're actually selling any.... 
It's just essentially the same car it was 10 years ago.
The Maxima's main problem is that it was initially pushed as a really sporty sedan. which, 15 years ago, compared to field, it was. Then they stuck the CVT in it. Then they started putting the same V6 in the Altima which was about $5000 less and you could get almost all the same bells and whistles.
If this next gen is going to have any success, they need to give it a power bump so that it outshines the Altima, I'd say put a manual in it but I know that won't happen -- but at least a dual-clutch auto transmission. Make it AWD.
I always liked the Maxima line -- I hope they do it some justice.
It's just essentially the same car it was 10 years ago.The Maxima's main problem is that it was initially pushed as a really sporty sedan. which, 15 years ago, compared to field, it was. Then they stuck the CVT in it. Then they started putting the same V6 in the Altima which was about $5000 less and you could get almost all the same bells and whistles.
If this next gen is going to have any success, they need to give it a power bump so that it outshines the Altima, I'd say put a manual in it but I know that won't happen -- but at least a dual-clutch auto transmission. Make it AWD.
I always liked the Maxima line -- I hope they do it some justice.
flapgreen
Footballguy
That's great to hear. Seems like the best deal out there.
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Checked out the 2010 today and jumped on it. Got them down to $16,250. Cherry car. Drove it home... Absolute blast to drive. Amenities/features are insane. Holy hell I wish I would have pulled the trigger on this years ago. So much fun. Pulled it up next to pop's LS460 and it's painfully obvious what they were targeting with the Genesis.
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Ted Stickles
Footballguy
My uncle went from an M3 to a Genesis (he was looking at the comparable Benz and 7 Series Beamer) and loves the car. After this, my cousins sold their Infinity and also went with a Genesis.
Both are more than happy with their cars; the value is off the charts.
Both are more than happy with their cars; the value is off the charts.
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Insoxicated
Take a test drive. Don't bring your checkbook though. You'll prob leave with a car if it's a step up from the Genesis.
Chadstroma
Footballguy
Hyundai has been overcoming a lowly reputation and changing minds by delivering value and quality. They seem to do a lot of things differently in order to change those minds. I think offering the Genesis in the Hyundai brand is about that same thing- changing peoples minds about Hyundai. I think it is working.
flapgreen
Footballguy
Getting a 2009 Veracruz this week.
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Insoxicated
There's not a month that goes by that I don't mention to the GF how much I love the Genesis while driving around. Such a fun car to drive. Still get compliments every time someone gets in it.
Several road trips under the belt now (3hrs, 4hrs, 6hrs each way) and it's been a dream for longer stretches. Hit 140mph briefly on the way down to NOLA and it was still remarkably stable. Had the cruise at 100 for most of the trip and still got almost 20MPG.
Only issue was a bit of a spat with a local dealer on recall transmission work that was ultimately resolved properly.
Worth every penny at $16k, IMO.
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Still loving this car... had some frustrating traffic this morning and the combination of excellent handling and near 400hp under the hood made short work of advancing through the gaps... all while the insane sound system melted my face 
So much fun to drive for completely opposite reasons than my Jeep....
So much fun to drive for completely opposite reasons than my Jeep....
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Psychopav
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Shopped for a while and pulled the trigger on a 2014 Genesis 5.0L r-spec with 9,500 miles on it. Out the door for $30k was a great deal imo and it is truly a blast to drive. I don't like spending that much for a car but I don't think this deal will be there the next time I'm shopping. It does guzzle gas but I'm very happy with the purchase so far. Thanks for the heads up, [icon]!
James Daulton
Footballguy
Do the miles between 10k and 50k devalue a car that much? I just bought a 2013 Infinity G37x with 32k miles and a 6 year bumper to bumper warranty for $27.5k out the door. Based on the above, I think I got a pretty good deal unless the 22k miles betwen our cars makes a huge difference.
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Psychopav
Help us, Joebi-Wan Brynobi, you're our only ho
I don't know if the infinity is apples to apples with the Genesis r-spec. A very quick Google implies the Genesis wins in engine, ride, sound system, reliability, and handling. The r-spec is around $50k new and suppoesd to be a good value at that price for its class.
James Daulton
Footballguy
I've been out of the car game for a while, so are Hyundai's now on par with Toyota, Nissan, Honda?
mr roboto
Footballguy
Chadstroma
Footballguy
I am a convert to say yes on this and IMO you get much more bang for your buck because you are not buying the brand.
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~15k miles and a little over a year later and I still absolutely LOVE my '10 Genesis 4.6. Fantastic ride, ridiculous sound system, plenty of pep. When I purchased it there was absolutely nothing in the ballpark from Toyota/Nissan/etc at the same price point. I am sold.
My father (Lexus LS400/430 fanboy for the last 20 years or so) loves it as well and has said his next car will likely be a Genesis.
Only downside is the MSRP is creeping up closer to their more comparable models from MB/Lexus/etc.
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Insoxicated
Glad you like it! I am impressed as hell with the power/handling of the '10 4.6L... I hear the newer models and the 5.0 are a nice step up as well. I imagine it's fun as hell. Cheers GB!
Chadstroma
Footballguy
That means the secret has gotten out.
~15k miles and a little over a year later and I still absolutely LOVE my '10 Genesis 4.6. Fantastic ride, ridiculous sound system, plenty of pep. When I purchased it there was absolutely nothing in the ballpark from Toyota/Nissan/etc at the same price point. I am sold.
My father (Lexus LS400/430 fanboy for the last 20 years or so) loves it as well and has said his next car will likely be a Genesis.
Only downside is the MSRP is creeping up closer to their more comparable models from MB/Lexus/etc.
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Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
Anyone have one of the newly named Genesis G80/G90?
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Insoxicated
Not yet but :drool:
Still absolutely loving my old 2010 Genesis 4.6 though. Approaching 90k miles and still SO much fun to drive. Still can't believe I got this thing for like $15k.
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
Base model starts at $41k which is a little 
but fully loaded it's still $10k cheaper than the $$$$ luxury brands it competes with.
but fully loaded it's still $10k cheaper than the $$$$ luxury brands it competes with.
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Yep… Unfortunately the Genesis is no longer the easy SOD ... but for that caliber vehicle is still prevents solid valueBase model starts at $41k which is a little
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
This is the type of vehicle that I think is a great used purchase. More than likely it wont be beat up or abused, it will have been a leased vehicle and have low mileage. I love having someone else eat the deprecation for me
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
In Pa we have places called "Car Sense". They are one of those used car lots that are no haggle and sell a ton of prior leased vehicles. Vehicles in this class much like Volvo, BMW etc that get leased are more often leased by an older crowed and thus treated better.
Bull Dozier
Footballguy
OK, ya, I guess that makes sense. My dad (72) has a leased BMW currently. I'd definitely be happy buying that off lease knowing how he took care of it.
Now, if I leased any sort of sporty vehicle knowing I'd be turning over the keys after a few years, I'd feel sorry for the sucker that bought that next.
Buddy Ball 2K3
Footballguy
Exactly. I know I take much better care of my vehicles now compared to when I was in my twenties. I also would have never wanted to drive a "luxury" sedan back then.
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