cap'n grunge 6,262 Posted September 7 Need an I'm addicted and will never cut the cable thread. I've got DirecTV Xtra with HBO, Netflix, Hulu, Prime Video, DC Universe, and will be adding Disney +. It all adds up but I don't mind paying for entertainment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otis 10,236 Posted September 8 I'm on DirecTVNow/ATTNow. Any way I can get the Red Zone channel? I see it's not on here. Is there an app or something? Hell, I'd pay for the full NFL Sunday Ticket, but the website says it's not available over the app in my area. Super annoying. Any legal/full pay options for me? Any free options? TIA Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osaurus 6,998 Posted September 8 59 minutes ago, Otis said: I'm on DirecTVNow/ATTNow. Any way I can get the Red Zone channel? I see it's not on here. Is there an app or something? Hell, I'd pay for the full NFL Sunday Ticket, but the website says it's not available over the app in my area. Super annoying. Any legal/full pay options for me? Any free options? TIA NFL GamePass International has it as do a couple of other non-NFL services. Reddit might have it somewhere too, but I don’t know. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Walking Boot 7,241 Posted September 8 1 hour ago, Otis said: I'm on DirecTVNow/ATTNow. Any way I can get the Red Zone channel? I see it's not on here. Is there an app or something? Hell, I'd pay for the full NFL Sunday Ticket, but the website says it's not available over the app in my area. Super annoying. Any legal/full pay options for me? Any free options? TIA Enroll in college, then sign up for student access online Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
simsarge 433 Posted September 9 Anyone try the SportzTV app for today's games? I was out all d day and couldn't check Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonydead 4,845 Posted September 9 On 9/8/2019 at 4:09 AM, Otis said: I'm on DirecTVNow/ATTNow. Any way I can get the Red Zone channel? I see it's not on here. Is there an app or something? Hell, I'd pay for the full NFL Sunday Ticket, but the website says it's not available over the app in my area. Super annoying. Any legal/full pay options for me? Any free options? TIA 1- Put a giant antiquated satellite dish on your roof so you can pay Directv. (It is super annoying that Directv is doing everything it can to keep people on this old monopolistic technology). 2- Sling TV, FuboTV, and Playstation Vue have Red Zone. (For 34.99 a month for 4 months ($140) you could get NFL Network and RedZone from Sling TV. Plus the other channels the package comes with.) 3- Find someone in college to lend you their credentials. (NFL Ticket for around $100) 4- VPN your IP address outside of North America and buy it directly from NFL.com (Full NFL Ticket without any of the North America restrictions for around $130-$140). 5- Stream for free from reddit or nflbite. (Free, free, free, ) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonydead 4,845 Posted September 9 Legality of the 5 choices above: 1- Illegal. By definition a monopoly is when a company has exclusive control over a good or service in a particular market. In North America, Directv is the only choice for NFL Sunday Ticket. 2- Perfectly legal as far as I can tell. 3- I'm sure it violates some of the terms and agreements, but, see #1. 4- I don't think there is anything illegal about doing it this way. The NFL still gets their cut and they accept your credit card that has a US address attached to it. I think the NFL is happy to have this loophole in the contract they have with Directv. 5- 50-50. To date it is not illegal to watch a stream and no case law exists where anyone has ever been prosecuted. There is little doubt, however, that the websites that broadcast the streams are illegal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonydead 4,845 Posted September 9 On 9/7/2019 at 9:33 AM, cap'n grunge said: Need an I'm addicted and will never cut the cable thread. I've got DirecTV Xtra with HBO, Netflix, Hulu, Prime Video, DC Universe, and will be adding Disney +. It all adds up but I don't mind paying for entertainment. You know there is already, I'm assuming you came to post this just to make yourself feel better? Quote Can't log in to Directv. Zero effort made to keep me They even made it a bigger hassle My saga continues Based on these stories, and other reasons, I'll be cancelling my DirecTV later this year I'm going to have a controlled burn around my dish and get rid of it that way. Satellite not working Packing up all my equipment and sending it back today Still can't redeem my GC Will also be glad when the ST contract runs out for these clowns I did end up dropping direc tv due to all their nonsense Comments just from the last page alone. Horrible and completely unnecessary experience. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Osaurus 6,998 Posted September 9 8 hours ago, tonydead said: 1- Put a giant antiquated satellite dish on your roof so you can pay Directv. (It is super annoying that Directv is doing everything it can to keep people on this old monopolistic technology). 2- Sling TV, FuboTV, and Playstation Vue have Red Zone. (For 34.99 a month for 4 months ($140) you could get NFL Network and RedZone from Sling TV. Plus the other channels the package comes with.) 3- Find someone in college to lend you their credentials. (NFL Ticket for around $100) 4- VPN your IP address outside of North America and buy it directly from NFL.com (Full NFL Ticket without any of the North America restrictions for around $130-$140). 5- Stream for free from reddit or nflbite. (Free, free, free, ) My favorite option (other than SFU) 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiefD 13,166 Posted September 12 Since HULU doesn't have NFL Network, what are my options for watching this channel? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
stbugs 1,234 Posted September 13 3 hours ago, ChiefD said: Since HULU doesn't have NFL Network, what are my options for watching this channel? Do you have Amazon Prime? I switched to Hulu but I have Prime so I knew I could watch the game on Prime. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChiefD 13,166 Posted September 13 31 minutes ago, stbugs said: Do you have Amazon Prime? I switched to Hulu but I have Prime so I knew I could watch the game on Prime. No, we don’t. I looked at that possibility but didn’t want to spend the dough. Ended up signing up for the trial period of Sling and paid for a month. Been wanting to check it out anyway to compare to hulu, so it cost me $25 for the test. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rustycolts 1,370 Posted September 13 NFLbite worked for me last night. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaVinci 1,426 Posted September 13 30 minutes ago, rustycolts said: NFLbite worked for me last night. I’ve tried SFU for the past few weeks, but I keep having buffering issues. I have better luck with streams from NFLbite. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
pollardsvision 2,409 Posted September 15 Man the streaming world has changed so much over the last couple of years. I'd been using Sling and OTA antennas for the last 6 years. Been pretty happy with it, so I ignored the landscape over the last few years, but Sling raised it's price, and the local CBS tower is being rebuilt and acting up (right at the start of football season). I think I'd be plenty happy with any of the major streamers, but went with YouTubeTV. So awesome. Heck I really didn't even know that locals had become the norm on the major streamers. And it took about 3 clicks to set up the unlimited DVR to record all the NFL and sports I may want watch (I haven't had any DVR at all in 6 years). But the very best part of streaming services.......after 6 years, it took less than 5 minutes to cancel Sling. For the rest of my life, I'm going to everything I can to avoid any arrangement that requires talking to a human being to get out of. I remember the days of dealing with DirecTV and cable companies trying end or adjust contracts. So miserable. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
phowler13 17 Posted September 16 (edited) Been following along in here for a while, finally got rid of directv. Have a Firestick for each tv in the house, each have cinema, Netflix, and I have been casting nflbite site the last two weeks. I have YouTube tv trial. I am looking to get a quick, easy Kodi style install for live tv/sports/ticket etc. I’ve done Kodi and it was a pain to set up and explain to my wife and kids. I know troypoint has a bunch listed but Is there a recommended .apk ?? App that: is easy to install (cinema easy) can work on multiple firesticks easy guide for kids/wife has live sports/nfl/yes/ncaa b-ball i dont mind paying a monthly fee if it’s easy to use and has minimal buffering Edited September 16 by phowler13 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al Czervik 188 Posted September 17 13 hours ago, phowler13 said: Been following along in here for a while, finally got rid of directv. Have a Firestick for each tv in the house, each have cinema, Netflix, and I have been casting nflbite site the last two weeks. I have YouTube tv trial. I am looking to get a quick, easy Kodi style install for live tv/sports/ticket etc. I’ve done Kodi and it was a pain to set up and explain to my wife and kids. I know troypoint has a bunch listed but Is there a recommended .apk ?? App that: is easy to install (cinema easy) can work on multiple firesticks easy guide for kids/wife has live sports/nfl/yes/ncaa b-ball i dont mind paying a monthly fee if it’s easy to use and has minimal buffering Check the Terrarium TV thread. Lots of info in there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewlyRetired 13,589 Posted September 30 (edited) The wife and daughter seem ready to switch. i am going to go with the following group: Youtubetv, Netflix, Disney+, ESPN+. The only hole I have appears to be PBS. what is the best way for my wife to watch her pbs shows? Antennas do not work great where I live. Edited September 30 by NewlyRetired Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gianmarco 18,933 Posted September 30 27 minutes ago, NewlyRetired said: The wife and daughter seem ready to switch. i am going to go with the following group: Youtubetv, Netflix, Disney+, ESPN+. The only hole I have appears to be PBS. what is the best way for my wife to watch her pbs shows? Antennas do not work great where I live. PBS has an app that I tried on my firestick a long time ago and seemed fine. Not sure what your setup is but maybe check out that option? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewlyRetired 13,589 Posted September 30 1 minute ago, gianmarco said: PBS has an app that I tried on my firestick a long time ago and seemed fine. Not sure what your setup is but maybe check out that option? Does the app require you to receive pbs via another service? or does it work for anyone for free? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uruk-Hai 5,736 Posted September 30 30 minutes ago, NewlyRetired said: Does the app require you to receive pbs via another service? or does it work for anyone for free? It's free, but there are a few things that are behind a member's pay wall Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
East Coast Bias 955 Posted October 5 On 9/30/2019 at 6:15 AM, NewlyRetired said: The wife and daughter seem ready to switch. i am going to go with the following group: Youtubetv, Netflix, Disney+, ESPN+. The only hole I have appears to be PBS. what is the best way for my wife to watch her pbs shows? Antennas do not work great where I live. Saw this today when researching YouTube TV. PBS targeting a Nov 4th launch. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gordo 60 Posted October 6 On 9/30/2019 at 8:15 AM, NewlyRetired said: The wife and daughter seem ready to switch. i am going to go with the following group: Youtubetv, Netflix, Disney+, ESPN+. The only hole I have appears to be PBS. what is the best way for my wife to watch her pbs shows? Antennas do not work great where I live. Should have PBS on YouTubeTV within a month. Looking forward to it myself. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig_MiamiFL 1,791 Posted October 7 American Gladiators channel (and others) now available on Pluto https://www.cordcuttersnews.com/pluto-tv-adds-12-new-channels-including-baywatch-the-addams-family-american-gladiator-more/ 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nysfl2 85 Posted October 10 (edited) What's the best option for a DVR for over-the-air recording? Fire Recast if we have a couple of Fire Sticks already? Would prefer no monthly subscription. Edited October 10 by nysfl2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cubd8 176 Posted October 15 Will the new Disney streaming service allow users to share passwords? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Elliott 745 Posted October 15 On 10/10/2019 at 6:54 PM, nysfl2 said: What's the best option for a DVR for over-the-air recording? Fire Recast if we have a couple of Fire Sticks already? Would prefer no monthly subscription. HDhomerun by silicon dust might be of interest to you. There is a free version or $35 annual fee version with more functionality. Runs on a lot of different platforms. Can select options that include 2-6 tv tuners so you can watch/record different shows at the same time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nysfl2 85 Posted October 16 5 hours ago, Phil Elliott said: HDhomerun by silicon dust might be of interest to you. There is a free version or $35 annual fee version with more functionality. Runs on a lot of different platforms. Can select options that include 2-6 tv tuners so you can watch/record different shows at the same time. This looks pretty interesting. Thanks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 5,800 Posted October 16 On 10/10/2019 at 6:54 PM, nysfl2 said: What's the best option for a DVR for over-the-air recording? Fire Recast if we have a couple of Fire Sticks already? Would prefer no monthly subscription. What do you dvr? You probably will find that once you don't have it you'll wonder why you ever bothered using it. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiddLattimer 264 Posted October 17 17 hours ago, culdeus said: What do you dvr? You probably will find that once you don't have it you'll wonder why you ever bothered using it. That's what happened to us 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Premier 2,279 Posted October 17 Love YouTube tv so much. It’s amazing. Wish it had the red zone channel, so we are keeping our cable until the end of the football season. Fantastic service for 50 bucks though. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
culdeus 5,800 Posted October 17 11 minutes ago, Premier said: Love YouTube tv so much. It’s amazing. Wish it had the red zone channel, so we are keeping our cable until the end of the football season. Fantastic service for 50 bucks though. 50 still seems high to me. Probably as I have solid antenna support and have simply quit giving a #### about any sports that don't happen to air on an antenna. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Premier 2,279 Posted October 17 5 minutes ago, culdeus said: 50 still seems high to me. Probably as I have solid antenna support and have simply quit giving a #### about any sports that don't happen to air on an antenna. Yea at this point I am just paying for sports. We watch 100% of our shows on Netflix/hbo/etc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ned 9,808 Posted October 17 (edited) On 10/10/2019 at 7:54 PM, nysfl2 said: What's the best option for a DVR for over-the-air recording? Fire Recast if we have a couple of Fire Sticks already? Would prefer no monthly subscription. We have the recast - works great. Super easy to use, all amazon devices can wirelessly connect to it, and the app is excellent. ETA: the wireless function is the best part of it, IMO. I have it setup in my office to get the best signal with the antenna - it is flawless when streaming from our fire tv downstairs in the living room. Edited October 17 by Ned Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KiddLattimer 264 Posted October 17 38 minutes ago, Premier said: Love YouTube tv so much. It’s amazing. Wish it had the red zone channel, so we are keeping our cable until the end of the football season. Fantastic service for 50 bucks though. If you happen to have Verizon their "Up" rewards program had Red Zone for $10 for the year. Not sure if its still offered or not. It's phone only as far as I can tell though, cant find a way to cast it unless Im missing it Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewlyRetired 13,589 Posted October 29 Sounds like the market is starting weed out the streaming services. Sony announced today that they are shutting down PS Vue due to lack of growth. Goes dark in January. Also, ATT recently lost 195k subscribers from DTV Now from last quarter. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al Czervik 188 Posted October 29 24 minutes ago, NewlyRetired said: Sony announced today that they are shutting down PS Vue due to lack of growth. Goes dark in January. #### 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peak 1,051 Posted October 29 28 minutes ago, NewlyRetired said: Also, ATT recently lost 195k subscribers from DTV Now from last quarter. Maybe bc it's a horrible service. They dropped channels from the initial package and then raised the prices. On top of that, their Customer Service isn't integrated with normal DTV, so you have to do mainly everything online - yet they aren't as transparent with that information. It's one of the worst services I've tried/used. 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B Maverick 1,812 Posted October 29 7 minutes ago, Peak said: Maybe bc it's a horrible service. They dropped channels from the initial package and then raised the prices. On top of that, their Customer Service isn't integrated with normal DTV, so you have to do mainly everything online - yet they aren't as transparent with that information. It's one of the worst services I've tried/used. It also buffers more then any of the other services I've used and is slow to change channels and bring up the guide. I'm just waiting for Disney+ then I'm cancelling 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewlyRetired 13,589 Posted October 29 9 minutes ago, Peak said: Maybe bc it's a horrible service. They dropped channels from the initial package and then raised the prices. On top of that, their Customer Service isn't integrated with normal DTV, so you have to do mainly everything online - yet they aren't as transparent with that information. It's one of the worst services I've tried/used. This is all part of the weeding process. There is likely to be a couple of winners when this all gets flushed out years from now but something has to give. There are simply too many different services starting up. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewlyRetired 13,589 Posted October 29 1 minute ago, B Maverick said: I'm just waiting for Disney+ then I'm cancelling I don't understand the comparison... Disney+ has no relation to DTV Now from what I understand as they will not have live tv. DTV Now competitors are PS Vue, Hulu Live, YouTube Tv, Fubo etc Disney+ I would think would be competing more with things like Netflix, Amazon etc, who also don't have any live tv. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Craig_MiamiFL 1,791 Posted October 29 (edited) Nothing memorable about Vue. I'd probably have put them 2nd to last as far as streaming services I've tried. Youtube TV interface was an abomination when I tried it. And I'm one that uses the main Youtube app on a daily basis. They'd rank worst on the services I've tried. This was probably 6-12 months ago. DTV Now was pretty good other than it took a ####### eternity for the ### #### channel guide to load. They dropped channels and raised price so not surprising at all they're bleeding customers as well. Philo is far and away my favorite paid streaming service. Paying $16/mo. I think they raised it to $20/mo for new customers but well worth it IMO. If you're a big sports viewer, probably won't be of much help but still cheap enough to use as addition to a sports package. I've had zero issues with Philo since I've started (the better part of a year ago?) Edited October 29 by Craig_MiamiFL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al Czervik 188 Posted October 29 45 minutes ago, Al Czervik said: #### Didn't realize Fire TV will now support YouTube TV. That makes for an easy switch to YouTube TV from VUE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
B Maverick 1,812 Posted October 29 35 minutes ago, NewlyRetired said: I don't understand the comparison... Disney+ has no relation to DTV Now from what I understand as they will not have live tv. DTV Now competitors are PS Vue, Hulu Live, YouTube Tv, Fubo etc Disney+ I would think would be competing more with things like Netflix, Amazon etc, who also don't have any live tv. No, but to add sling or hulu live appears to be less expensive then I'm paying for DTVN, and appears to be a better service. Plus It would surprise me if a Hulu Live package didn't get offered at some point since they are offering D+, Espn + and Hulu packages already. Seems a missed opp if they don't go the next step. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yenrub 541 Posted October 30 6 hours ago, NewlyRetired said: Sounds like the market is starting weed out the streaming services. Sony announced today that they are shutting down PS Vue due to lack of growth. Goes dark in January. Also, ATT recently lost 195k subscribers from DTV Now from last quarter. Piss poor marketing on Sony's part. Most people were/are under the impression that they need an actual playstation in order to use the service. So which of the other streaming services offer NFL network and Redzone? 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
snellman 292 Posted October 30 41 minutes ago, Yenrub said: Piss poor marketing on Sony's part. Most people were/are under the impression that they need an actual playstation in order to use the service. So which of the other streaming services offer NFL network and Redzone? Sling and Futbo are the only 2 other at this time. This sucks because the 3 main channels I watch are ESPN, NFL Network and Fox Sports North. Currently, Futbo has NFL and FSN but no ESPN. Sling has ESPN and NFL network, but are in a spat with Fox sports (was not very impressed with the picture on Sling anyway). Youtube TV has Fox sports and ESPN but no NFL network. PSvue had all of the channels I wanted along with a good picture and dependable service. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Choke 246 Posted October 30 Disney+ free for Verizon (unlimited phone) customers for the first year. A small savings, but cool none-the-less if you already have Verizon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwampDawg 219 Posted October 30 11 hours ago, Choke said: Disney+ free for Verizon (unlimited phone) customers for the first year. A small savings, but cool none-the-less if you already have Verizon. Was happy to see this but disappointed that so far no Disney + app for LG Smart TV WebOS or Vizo Smart TV OS. Now I'm either going to have to streamcast it or buy a Roku or something. Really considering cutting the cord and going all streaming but everything else we would use (YouTubeTV, Netflix, Amazon) are all apps I can load to our TV's and keep it simple for the wife. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SwampDawg 219 Posted October 30 On 9/30/2019 at 9:15 AM, NewlyRetired said: The wife and daughter seem ready to switch. i am going to go with the following group: Youtubetv, Netflix, Disney+, ESPN+. The only hole I have appears to be PBS. what is the best way for my wife to watch her pbs shows? Antennas do not work great where I live. NR did you go down this route yet ? That is the exact combo I am thinking of going with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NewlyRetired 13,589 Posted October 30 3 minutes ago, SwampDawg said: NR did you go down this route yet ? That is the exact combo I am thinking of going with. Not yet. The family is still slow to make the change. Every time my wife sees news like Sony shutting down psvue, the clock seems to reset. If I was on my own, I would have done this by now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites