States with the death penalty have higher rates of death penalty crimes than even states they share a border with. It doesn't work and it doesn't matter how fast you throw the switch. Texas never runs out of people to execute.The death penalty has never failed. That person is dead. They won't be coming back. Used correctly, the death penalty is the perfect deterrent. Kill? ok, you die too. Not next year, Not next decade. How about tomorrow.
Yeah!! To hell with due process!!!The death penalty has never failed. That person is dead. They won't be coming back. Used correctly, the death penalty is the perfect deterrent. Kill? ok, you die too. Not next year, Not next decade. How about tomorrow.
Very few would watch and of those that did very few would watch more than one. Those that were multiple watchers should probably be watched themselves.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
I don't think you know what a deterrent is.The death penalty has never failed. That person is dead. They won't be coming back. Used correctly, the death penalty is the perfect deterrent. Kill? ok, you die too. Not next year, Not next decade. How about tomorrow.
They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
Running Man down?Richard Dawson could still host it.If the death penalty is removed, how about making every Friday 'Free Weapon Day' in jail and the guards get the day off.
Shank Saturdays?Kinda rolls off the tongue still pay per right?If the death penalty is removed, how about making every Friday 'Free Weapon Day' in jail and the guards get the day off.
I'd watch a few of these dirtbags die. Those two guys that raped and burned up the doctor's family in Conn? I'd pay to watch them die a horrible death.They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
I didn't realize that we thought of it as a deterrent. I was under the impression it was supposed to be a punishment.![]()
They will run out if they were processing correctly.States with the death penalty have higher rates of death penalty crimes than even states they share a border with. It doesn't work and it doesn't matter how fast you throw the switch. Texas never runs out of people to execute.The death penalty has never failed. That person is dead. They won't be coming back. Used correctly, the death penalty is the perfect deterrent. Kill? ok, you die too. Not next year, Not next decade. How about tomorrow.
It's revenge pure and simple.I didn't realize that we thought of it as a deterrent. I was under the impression it was supposed to be a punishment.![]()
I could whip thru a lot of these cases within a week using common sense. 'oh look, that video shows you killng that other person. I don't need a year to now kill you. I also don't need to negotiate a plea deal.Yeah!! To hell with due process!!!The death penalty has never failed. That person is dead. They won't be coming back. Used correctly, the death penalty is the perfect deterrent. Kill? ok, you die too. Not next year, Not next decade. How about tomorrow.
And what is wrong with sweet, sweet revenge?It's revenge pure and simple.I didn't realize that we thought of it as a deterrent. I was under the impression it was supposed to be a punishment.![]()
I, for one, am 100% okay with that.It's revenge pure and simple.I didn't realize that we thought of it as a deterrent. I was under the impression it was supposed to be a punishment.![]()
Yeah, but the death penalty is a terrible deterrent for that. It's really only good for things like "vengeance", "revenge" and "getting what you deserve".I didn't realize that we thought of it as a deterrent. I was under the impression it was supposed to be a punishment.![]()
don't we want people to not kill in the first place?
I bet you couldn't.I could whip thru a lot of these cases within a week using common sense.Yeah!! To hell with due process!!!The death penalty has never failed. That person is dead. They won't be coming back. Used correctly, the death penalty is the perfect deterrent. Kill? ok, you die too. Not next year, Not next decade. How about tomorrow.
'oh look, that video shows you killng that other person. I don't need a year to now kill you. I also don't need to negotiate a plea deal.
Well it's a sign of an immature society but beyond that we get it wrong too often.And what is wrong with sweet, sweet revenge?It's revenge pure and simple.I didn't realize that we thought of it as a deterrent. I was under the impression it was supposed to be a punishment.![]()
That's the problem IMO, they don't die a horrible death. I think the punishment should be the exact same as they did to their victims.I'd watch a few of these dirtbags die. Those two guys that raped and burned up the doctor's family in Conn? I'd pay to watch them die a horrible death.They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
hence the thread, I thinkYeah, but the death penalty is a terrible deterrent for that.I didn't realize that we thought of it as a deterrent. I was under the impression it was supposed to be a punishment.![]()
don't we want people to not kill in the first place?
It's really only good for things like "vengeance", "revenge" and "getting what you deserve".
Same here though the system that determines guilt needs to be revamped quite a bit first. However, I see no reason why people like the aforementioned guys in the rape/burning or the DC snipers et al being killed immediately.I, for one, am 100% okay with that.It's revenge pure and simple.I didn't realize that we thought of it as a deterrent. I was under the impression it was supposed to be a punishment.![]()
I am curious what you think you would get out of it.I'd watch a few of these dirtbags die. Those two guys that raped and burned up the doctor's family in Conn? I'd pay to watch them die a horrible death.They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
Great. What about the other 99.5% of cases?I could whip thru a lot of these cases within a week using common sense. 'oh look, that video shows you killng that other person. I don't need a year to now kill you. I also don't need to negotiate a plea deal.Yeah!! To hell with due process!!!The death penalty has never failed. That person is dead. They won't be coming back. Used correctly, the death penalty is the perfect deterrent. Kill? ok, you die too. Not next year, Not next decade. How about tomorrow.
Some texts actually split deterrence into "general" and "specific." He's speaking of the latter (also called "incapacitation") so technically he is right.I don't think you know what a deterrent is.The death penalty has never failed. That person is dead. They won't be coming back. Used correctly, the death penalty is the perfect deterrent. Kill? ok, you die too. Not next year, Not next decade. How about tomorrow.
Satisfaction?I am curious what you think you would get out of it.I'd watch a few of these dirtbags die. Those two guys that raped and burned up the doctor's family in Conn? I'd pay to watch them die a horrible death.They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
Knowledge that taxpayer dollars aren't going to feed, clothe and house a multiple murderer?Satisfaction?I am curious what you think you would get out of it.I'd watch a few of these dirtbags die. Those two guys that raped and burned up the doctor's family in Conn? I'd pay to watch them die a horrible death.They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
You should think about slang uses for the term waste hahaETA: and put "not" in front of itI'm mainly sick of hearing such and such got a stay of execution for some procedural reason. Waste of bandwidth. You never hear about lifers even when they get shanked in the liver. I mean does anyone ever think California is going to kill Scott Peterson? Hell no. Why waste all the lawyers?
With what would you be satisfied?The victims are still dead, the families are still suffering and and the perpetrators were already off the streets.Nothing was accomplished except more death.Satisfaction?I am curious what you think you would get out of it.I'd watch a few of these dirtbags die. Those two guys that raped and burned up the doctor's family in Conn? I'd pay to watch them die a horrible death.They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
I am not convinced that life in prison is lesser punishment than dying.And it's not the multiple murderers/death row inmates that are eating up the majority our prison tax dollars. It's all the non-violent drug offenders that our justice keeps cramming into our overcrowded prisons. Reforming mandatory sentencing guidelines for non-violent drug offenders would be a much better way to save your tax dollars.Knowledge that taxpayer dollars aren't going to feed, clothe and house a multiple murderer?Satisfaction?I am curious what you think you would get out of it.I'd watch a few of these dirtbags die. Those two guys that raped and burned up the doctor's family in Conn? I'd pay to watch them die a horrible death.They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
Both the Chinese and Persian cultures are much older than ours yet they're among the top societies to use capital punishment. Does that alone make them more immature societies?Statistically, capital punishment is most prominent in Asian and Arab nations and least prominent in European nations. So what are you trying to say about those societies in relation to each other?Well it's a sign of an immature society but beyond that we get it wrong too often.
Costs twice as much to kill them as it does for them to serve life without parole.Knowledge that taxpayer dollars aren't going to feed, clothe and house a multiple murderer?Satisfaction?I am curious what you think you would get out of it.I'd watch a few of these dirtbags die. Those two guys that raped and burned up the doctor's family in Conn? I'd pay to watch them die a horrible death.They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
It wouldn't if we just shot them.Costs twice as much to kill them as it does for them to serve life without parole.Knowledge that taxpayer dollars aren't going to feed, clothe and house a multiple murderer?Satisfaction?I am curious what you think you would get out of it.I'd watch a few of these dirtbags die. Those two guys that raped and burned up the doctor's family in Conn? I'd pay to watch them die a horrible death.They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
That societies that practice revenge on their citizens have some growing up to do. I thought that was clear. Especially when, at least in our case, we seem somewhat predisposed to killing the wrong guy.Both the Chinese and Persian cultures are much older than ours yet they're among the top societies to use capital punishment. Does that alone make them more immature societies?Statistically, capital punishment is most prominent in Asian and Arab nations and least prominent in European nations. So what are you trying to say about those societies in relation to each other?Well it's a sign of an immature society but beyond that we get it wrong too often.
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And what if those other nations don't look at it as revenge, but instead look at it as a useful deterrent? Seems to work for Singapore.That societies that practice revenge on their citizens have some growing up to do. I thought that was clear. Especially when, at least in our case, we seem somewhat predisposed to killing the wrong guy.Both the Chinese and Persian cultures are much older than ours yet they're among the top societies to use capital punishment. Does that alone make them more immature societies?Statistically, capital punishment is most prominent in Asian and Arab nations and least prominent in European nations. So what are you trying to say about those societies in relation to each other?Well it's a sign of an immature society but beyond that we get it wrong too often.
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Really? They give you the death penalty for drug use. They still have addicts. They still have people to kill every year. In fact based on their size they are a killing machine and yet they still have more to kill. Not seeing the success here.And what if those other nations don't look at it as revenge, but instead look at it as a useful deterrent? Seems to work for Singapore.That societies that practice revenge on their citizens have some growing up to do. I thought that was clear. Especially when, at least in our case, we seem somewhat predisposed to killing the wrong guy.Both the Chinese and Persian cultures are much older than ours yet they're among the top societies to use capital punishment. Does that alone make them more immature societies?Statistically, capital punishment is most prominent in Asian and Arab nations and least prominent in European nations. So what are you trying to say about those societies in relation to each other?Well it's a sign of an immature society but beyond that we get it wrong too often.
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Here you go...Wiki opening sentence: "The crime rate in Singapore is one of the lowest in the world."Really? They give you the death penalty for drug use. They still have addicts. They still have people to kill every year. In fact based on their size they are a killing machine and yet they still have more to kill. Not seeing the success here.And what if those other nations don't look at it as revenge, but instead look at it as a useful deterrent? Seems to work for Singapore.That societies that practice revenge on their citizens have some growing up to do. I thought that was clear. Especially when, at least in our case, we seem somewhat predisposed to killing the wrong guy.Both the Chinese and Persian cultures are much older than ours yet they're among the top societies to use capital punishment. Does that alone make them more immature societies?Statistically, capital punishment is most prominent in Asian and Arab nations and least prominent in European nations. So what are you trying to say about those societies in relation to each other?Well it's a sign of an immature society but beyond that we get it wrong too often.
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Hopefully some nice toasted marshmallows.I am curious what you think you would get out of it.I'd watch a few of these dirtbags die. Those two guys that raped and burned up the doctor's family in Conn? I'd pay to watch them die a horrible death.They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
They under report. It's well known they have a serious drug problem despite the executions. And they do execute. Several hundred in the last decade. I wouldn't take official figures as gospel.Here you go...Wiki opening sentence: "The crime rate in Singapore is one of the lowest in the world."Really? They give you the death penalty for drug use. They still have addicts. They still have people to kill every year. In fact based on their size they are a killing machine and yet they still have more to kill. Not seeing the success here.And what if those other nations don't look at it as revenge, but instead look at it as a useful deterrent? Seems to work for Singapore.That societies that practice revenge on their citizens have some growing up to do. I thought that was clear. Especially when, at least in our case, we seem somewhat predisposed to killing the wrong guy.Both the Chinese and Persian cultures are much older than ours yet they're among the top societies to use capital punishment. Does that alone make them more immature societies?Statistically, capital punishment is most prominent in Asian and Arab nations and least prominent in European nations. So what are you trying to say about those societies in relation to each other?Well it's a sign of an immature society but beyond that we get it wrong too often.
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Singapore
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Yes, I'm good with that. I want that. I want that yesterday in certain cases, like this one. And I want it done medieval style too. When a pit-bull attacks and kills a baby, we put the dog down immediately. When a man rapes a little girl, pours gas on her and lights her on fire, we give the killer a lengthy trial, appeals and a few more years to live the very life he snuffed through his own heinous actions. I'd prefer he get the same treatment as the pit-bull, only I'd like him to die a savage and painful death. What does that say about me? I don't know. I don't really care. I just happen to like the death penalty and wish it was extended to include child rapers. And I wish in cases where guilt was not in question, that the death was carried out immediately and harshly.With what would you be satisfied?The victims are still dead, the families are still suffering and and the perpetrators were already off the streets.Satisfaction?I am curious what you think you would get out of it.I'd watch a few of these dirtbags die. Those two guys that raped and burned up the doctor's family in Conn? I'd pay to watch them die a horrible death.They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.
Nothing was accomplished except more death.
I pretty much agree with all you say but still see no reason to continue to pay for a murderer to live. I agree a hundredfold about drug offenders (mostly mj) but see no reason why both can't be done. It's also argued that executing a prisoner is more expensive. Dunno about that but I'd be happier with my tax dollars going towards removing from the Earth people who've taken others from it than to keep them alive.I am not convinced that life in prison is lesser punishment than dying.And it's not the multiple murderers/death row inmates that are eating up the majority our prison tax dollars. It's all the non-violent drug offenders that our justice keeps cramming into our overcrowded prisons. Reforming mandatory sentencing guidelines for non-violent drug offenders would be a much better way to save your tax dollars.Knowledge that taxpayer dollars aren't going to feed, clothe and house a multiple murderer?Satisfaction?I am curious what you think you would get out of it.I'd watch a few of these dirtbags die. Those two guys that raped and burned up the doctor's family in Conn? I'd pay to watch them die a horrible death.They could do pay-per-view.You should turn this thread into a poll asking if people would watch an execution.