I almost grabbed Tolbert last round. The departure of Sproles and the scatter back type rookie they drafted (forget his name now) suggested he would be in good position for at least 40% of touches by year end. Also, he may be eligible to be a free agent, would be an interesting pick up for some teams. I guess I got spooked by all the Matthews hype.I think this lockout may be a saving grace for me relative to Pierre Thomas. Rookies need the time and reps to get in NFL shape and pick up the complicated offenses. First rounders often have long delays signing in normal years. have to wonder if there will be some first rounders who miss several weeks of pre-season due to late start with contract negotiations, or increased injuries as conditioning is compressed into fewer days.I understand business is business, but this could jeopardize some players health and hamper rookie integration into game plans.'Sigmund Bloom said:
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Just wanted to comment on some great later round value pickups. James Jones in the 12th and Kevin Walter in the 14th. If these guys play like true WR2s in high output offenses, this is great value. Jacoby Jones went earlier that Walter, hard to say who will emerge there. Need to have the trust of Schaub and the coaching staff and Walter seems to have the edge there.
good WR value in general in this range - Driver too. I preferred to swing for the fences with Avery (who is working with Bradford at UH) and Bennett, who I think could emerge as the closest thing to a #1 in Chicago.
I keep saying to myself. I like the Bloom pick including both of these guys and the RB's you got just before that
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
I was surprised he was still around. My guess is that he'll count for me on more than one occasion.
Reaper
Footballguy
Interesting comparison / discussion....
Haven't seen Walter go before Jacoby yet in these things - Walter went in rounds 16 and 17 in two PDSL's compared to round 10 in those same drafts.
In the last PDSL they both went in round 11, Jacoby 1st.
So, I do think Walter has had some terrific value.
I think Jones has the better upside.
In rounds 13 /14 I like the value of both in that offense.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
smith is a risky QB#2 IMHO and your TEs are subpar...i think you'll be fine at RB
Fiddles
Footballguy
agree on smith. qbs went way too early for me. whats your issue with daniels?
LHUCKS
Footballguy
his ability to stay healthy
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
1.13 Pictus Cat - Steven Jackson, STL, RB9 Considered what was left of the WRs here, but I really like SJax
2.04 Pictus Cat - Frank Gore, SFF, RB11 Gore in the second seemed an value I couldn't pass up on. Who cares if he has two backups now. SF's recieving have to accounted for and he gets the carries.
3.13 Pictus Cat - Jeremy Maclin, PHI, WR16 Flip a coin for who is Philly's fantasy #1
4.04 Pictus Cat - Matt Schaub, HOU, QB11 I think he belongs in the bottom of his tier. The offense is clickin'
5.13 Pictus Cat - Deangelo Williams, CAR, RB24 Has performed in RBBC well in the past
6.04 Pictus Cat - Tony Gonzalez, ATL, TE11 New weapons in Atlanta could provide some more ops
7.13 Pictus Cat - Carson Palmer, ???, QB24 Seems to have some upside...
8.04 Pictus Cat - Mike Thomas, JAX, WR36 Hopefully he can help me catch up after violating the lack of 3 wrs in the first three rounds for SLs
9.13 Pictus Cat - Derrick Mason, BAL, WR47
10.04 Pictus Cat - Andy Dalton, CIN, QB32
11.13 Pictus Cat - New England Patriots, DST6
12.04 Pictus Cat - Chicago Bears, DST8
13.13 Pictus Cat - Donald Driver, GBP, WR66
14.04 Pictus Cat - Kevin Walter, HOU, WR68
15.13 Pictus Cat - Ryan Succup, KCC, PK18
16.04 Pictus Cat - Shaun Suisham, PIT, PK22
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D. Williams (9)
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2.04 Pictus Cat - Frank Gore, SFF, RB11 Gore in the second seemed an value I couldn't pass up on. Who cares if he has two backups now. SF's recieving have to accounted for and he gets the carries.
3.13 Pictus Cat - Jeremy Maclin, PHI, WR16 Flip a coin for who is Philly's fantasy #1
4.04 Pictus Cat - Matt Schaub, HOU, QB11 I think he belongs in the bottom of his tier. The offense is clickin'
5.13 Pictus Cat - Deangelo Williams, CAR, RB24 Has performed in RBBC well in the past
6.04 Pictus Cat - Tony Gonzalez, ATL, TE11 New weapons in Atlanta could provide some more ops
7.13 Pictus Cat - Carson Palmer, ???, QB24 Seems to have some upside...
8.04 Pictus Cat - Mike Thomas, JAX, WR36 Hopefully he can help me catch up after violating the lack of 3 wrs in the first three rounds for SLs
9.13 Pictus Cat - Derrick Mason, BAL, WR47
10.04 Pictus Cat - Andy Dalton, CIN, QB32
11.13 Pictus Cat - New England Patriots, DST6
12.04 Pictus Cat - Chicago Bears, DST8
13.13 Pictus Cat - Donald Driver, GBP, WR66
14.04 Pictus Cat - Kevin Walter, HOU, WR68
15.13 Pictus Cat - Ryan Succup, KCC, PK18
16.04 Pictus Cat - Shaun Suisham, PIT, PK22
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4.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Sam Bradford, STL, QB14
5.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Tim Tebow, DEN, QB15
1.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Adrian Peterson, MIN, RB1
8.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Tashard Choice, DAL, RB38
9.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Danny Woodhead, NEP, RB38
16.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Darren Sproles, ???, RB60
2.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Mike Wallace, PIT, WR8
3.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Wes Welker, NEP, WR9
7.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Chad Ochocinco, ???, WR30
10.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Anthony Armstrong, WAS, WR53
15.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Nate Washington, TEN, WR70
17.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Mohamed Massaquoi, CLE, WR78
6.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Brent Celek, PHI, TE18
11.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Visanthe Shiancoe, MIN, TE25
12.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Stephen Gostkowski,NEP, PK3
13.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Atlanta Falcons, DST15
14.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Miami Dolphins, DST27
3.02 Sigmund Bloom - Tony Romo, DAL, QB7
18.15 Sigmund Bloom - Jon Kitna, DAL, QB36
1.02 Sigmund Bloom - Arian Foster, HOU, RB2
2.15 Sigmund Bloom - Michael Turner, ATL, RB14
10.15 Sigmund Bloom - Mike Tolbert, SDC RB49
11.02 Sigmund Bloom - Montario Hardesty, CLE, RB50
4.15 Sigmund Bloom - Austin Collie, IND, WR23
7.02 Sigmund Bloom - AJ Green, CIN, WR31
8.15 Sigmund Bloom - Jacoby Ford, OAK, WR38
9.02 Sigmund Bloom - Braylon Edwards, NYJ, WR39
12.15 Sigmund Bloom - Earl Bennett, CHI, WR62
13.02 Sigmund Bloom - Donnie Avery, STL, WR63
17.02 Sigmund Bloom - Josh Morgan, SFF, WR79
5.02 Sigmund Bloom - Jimmy Graham, NOS, TE6
6.15 Sigmund Bloom - Aaron Hernandez, NEP, TE17
16.15 Sigmund Bloom - Matt Prater, DEN, PK25
14.15 Sigmund Bloom - Indianapolis Colts, DST26
15.02 Sigmund Bloom - Buffalo Bills, DST28
3.03 Fiddles - Matt Ryan, ATL, QB8
13.03 Fiddles - Alex Smith, SFF, QB33
1.03 Fiddles - Chris Johnson, TEN, RB3
4.14 Fiddles - David Thomas, MIA, RB22
7.03 Fiddles - Ryan Williams, ARZ, RB30
14.14 Fiddles - Jacquizz Rodgers, ATL RB55
2.14 Fiddles - Reggie Wayne, IND, WR7
6.14 Fiddles - Steve Smith, CAR, WR29
9.03 Fiddles - Deion Branch, NEP, WR40
10.14 Fiddles - Emmanuel Sanders, PIT, WR52
17.03 Fiddles - Vincent Brown, SDC, WR80
18.14 Fiddles - Torrey Smith, BAL, WR94
5.03 Fiddles - Owen Daniels, HOU, TE7
8.14 Fiddles - Ben Watson, CLE, TE23
15.03 Fiddles - Josh Scobee, JAC, PK12
16.14 Fiddles - Rian Lindell, BUF, PK24
11.03 Fiddles - New York Jets DST3
12.14 Fiddles - San Fransico Forty Niners, DST14
4.13 Reaper - Joe Flacco, BAL, QB13
5.04 Reaper - Jay Cutler, CHI, QB16
1.04 Reaper - Ray Rice, BAL, RB4
7.04 Reaper - Ryan Grant, GBP, RB31
8.13 Reaper - C.J. Spiller, BUF, RB36
10.13 Reaper - Ronnie Brown, ???, RB48
2.13 Reaper - Greg Jennings, GBP, WR6
3.04 Reaper - Vincent Jackson, SDC, WR10
11.04 Reaper - Lee Evans, BUF, WR54
13.04 Reaper - Jacoby Jones, HOU, WR64
16.13 Reaper - Jordan Shipley, CIN, WR77
18.13 Reaper - Jabar Gaffney, DEN, WR93
6.13 Reaper - Dustin Keller NYJ TE16
9.04 Reaper - Todd Heap. BAL, TE24
14.13 Reaper - Robbie Gould, CHI, PK11
17.04 Reaper - Phil Dawson, CLE, PK26
12.13 Reaper - New Orleans Saints, DST 13
15.04 Reaper - Jacksonville Jaguars, DST29
4.12 Red Zone - Eli Manning, NYG, QB12
7.05 Red Zone - Kyle Orton, DEN, QB21
5.05 Red Zone - Shonn Greene, NYJ, RB23
10.12 Red Zone - Pierre Thomas, NOS, RB47
11.05 Red Zone - Jason Snelling, ATL, RB51
18.12 Red Zone - Tim Hightower, ARI, RB64
1.05 Red Zone - Andre Johnson, HOU, WR1
3.05 Red Zone - Desean Jackson, PHI, WR11
8.12 Red Zone - Davone Bess, MIA, WR37
9.05 Red Zone - Jonathan Baldwin, KCC, WR41
16.12 Red Zone - Titus Young, DET, WR76
17.05 Red Zone - Darrius Heyward-Bey, OAK, WR81
2.12 Red Zone - Dallas Clark, IND, TE4
6.12 Red Zone - Marcedes Lewis JAC TE15
12.12 Red Zone - Mason Crosby, GBP, PK2
15.05 Red Zone - Alex Henery, PHI, PK13
13.05 Red Zone - Arizona Cardinals, DST16
14.12 Red Zone - Cleveland Browns, DST25
5.06 EvilGrin 72 - Matt Cassel, KCC, QB17
9.06 EvilGrin 72 - Christian Ponder, MIN, QB31
18.11 EvilGrin 72 - Ricky Stanzi, KCC, QB35
1.06 EvilGrin 72 - Jamaal Charles, KCC, RB5
2.11 EvilGrin 72 - Peyton Hillis, CLE, RB13
10.11 EvilGrin 72 - Bernard Scott, CIN, RB46
11.06 EvilGrin 72 - Benjarvus Green-Ellis, NEP, RB52
3.06 EvilGrin 72 - Miles Austin, DAL, WR12
4.11 EvilGrin 72 - Brandon Lloyd, DEN, WR22
7.06 EvilGrin 72 - Mario Manningham, NYG WR32
14.11 EvilGrin 72 - Mark Clayton, STL, WR69
17.06 EvilGrin 72 - Golden Tate, SFF, WR82
6.11 EvilGrin 72 - Jermaine Gresham, CIN, TE14
8.11 EvilGrin 72 - Greg Olsen, CHI, TE22
13.06 EvilGrin 72 - Garret Hartley, NOS, PK4
16.11 EvilGrin 72 - Connor Barth, TBB, PK23
12.11 EvilGrin 72 - Minnesota Vikings, DST12
15.06 EvilGrin 72 - Washington Redskins, DST30
2.10 Fullback Fro - Philip Rivers, SDC, QB6
7.07 Fullback Fro - Kevin Kolb, QB22
1.07 Fullback Fro - LeSean McCoy, PHI, RB6
3.07 Fullback Fro - Ryan Mathews, SDC, RB15
10.10 Fullback Fro - Reggie Bush, NOS, RB45
16.10 Fullback Fro - Rashard Jennings, JAX RB59
4.10 Fullback Fro - Steve Johnson, BUF, WR21
5.07 Fullback Fro - Percy Harvin, MIN, WR24
9.07 Fullback Fro - Santana Moss, WAS, WR42
11.07 Fullback Fro - Arrelious Benn, TBB, WR55
17.07 Fullback Fro - Ben Obomanu, SEA, WR83
18.10 Fullback Fro - Blair White, IND, WR92
6.10 Fullback Fro - Rob Gronkowski, NEP, TE13
8.10 Fullback Fro - Heath Miller, PIT, TE21
14.10 Fullback Fro - Adam Vinatieri,IND, PK10
15.07 Fullback Fro - Matt Bryant, ATL, PK14
12.10 Fullback Fro - Detroit Lions, DST11
13.07 Fullback Fro - Cincinnati Bengals, DST17
2.09 Dpease - Tom Brady, NEP, QB5
8.09 Dpease - Cam Newton, CAR, QB30
1.08 Dpease - Maurice Jones-Drew, JAX, RB7
6.09 Dpease - Fred Jackson, BUF, RB29
10.09 Dpease - Donald Brown, IND, RB44
16.09 Dpease - Marion Barber, DAL, RB58
3.08 Dpease - Dwayne Bowe, KCC, WR13
4.09 Dpease - Anquan Boldin, BAL, WR20
7.08 Dpease - Julio Jones, ATL, WR33
9.08 Dpease - Lance Moore, NOS, WR43
11.08 Dpease - Randy Moss, ???, WR56
15.08 Dpease - Eddie Royal, WAS, WR71
18.09 Dpease - Roy Williams, DAL, WR91
5.08 Dpease - Kellen Winslow Jr, TBB, TE8
14.09 Dpease - Lawrence Tynes, NYG, PK9
17.08 Dpease - John Kasay, CAR, PK27
12.09 Dpease - Dallas Cowboys, DST10
13.08 Dpease - Kansas City Chiefs, DST18
5.09 Twilight - Mark Sanchez, NYJ, QB18
7.09 Twilight - Colt McCoy, CLE, QB23
2.08 Twilight - Matt Forte, CHI, RB12
4.08 Twilight - LeGarrette Blount, TBB, RB21
8.08 Twilight - Shane Vereen, NEP, RB35
18.08 Twilight - Toby Gerhart, MIN, RB63
1.09 Twilight - Roddy White, ATL, WR2
6.08 Twilight - Pierre Garcon, IND, WR28
9.09 Twilight - Steve Smith, NYG, WR44
11.09 Twilight - Jason Hill, JAX, WR57
12.08 Twilight - Danny Amendola, STL, WR61
17.09 Twilight - Seyi Ajirotutu, SDC, WR84
3.09 Twilight - Vernon Davis, SFF, TE5
16.08 Twilight - Lance Kendricks, STL, TE30
13.09 Twilight - Rob Bironas, TEN, PK5
15.09 Twilight - Dan Carpenter, MIA, PK15
10.08 Twilight - Philadelphia Eagles, DST2
14.08 Twilight - Denver Broncos, DST24
2.07 RC94 - Drew Brees, NOS, QB4
8.07 RC94 - Chad Henne, MIA, QB29
3.10 RC94 - Knowshon Moreno, DEN, RB16
4.07 RC94 - Jonathan Stewart, CAR, RB20
10.07 RC94 - Brandon Jacobs, NYG, RB43
17.10 RC94 - Mike Goodson, CAR, RB60
1.10 RC94 - Calvin Johnson, DET, WR3
5.10 RC94 - Sidney Rice, MIN, WR25
9.10 RC94 - Jordy Nelson, GBP, WR45
12.07 RC94 - James Jones, ???, WR60
16.07 RC94 - Eric Decker, DEN, WR75
18.07 RC94 - Brandon Tate, NEP, WR90
6.07 RC94 - Brandon Pettigrew, DET, TE12
7.10 RC94 - Jared Cook, TEN, TE19
13.10 RC94 - Nate Kaeding, SDC, PK6
15.10 RC94 - Ryan Longwell, MIN, PK16
11.10 RC94 - New York Giants, DST4
14.07 RC94 - St Louis Rams, DST23
1.11 Norseman - Michael Vick, PHI, QB1
5.11 Norseman - Mathew Stafford, STL, QB19
18.06 Norseman - Shaun Hill, DET, QB34
4.06 Norseman - Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG, RB19
6.06 Norseman - Cedric Benson, CIN, RB28
8.06 Norseman - Mikel LeShoure, DET, RB34
14.06 Norseman - Thomas Jones, KC, RB54
16.06 Norseman - Willis McGahee, ???, RB57
3.11 Norseman - Brandon Marshall, MIA, WR14
7.11 Norseman - Mike Williams, SEA, WR34
9.11 Norseman - Terrell Owens, ???, WR46
10.06 Norseman - Robert Meachem, NOS, WR51
11.11 Norseman - Jerome Simpson, CIN, WR58
13.11 Norseman - Jericho Cotchery, NYJ, WR65
2.06 Norseman - Jermichael Finley, GBP, TE3
17.11 Norseman - Kevin Boss, NYG, TE31
15.11 Norseman - Billy Cundiff, BAL, PK17
12.06 Norseman - San Diego Chargers, DST9
2.05 MenoBrown - Peyton Manning, IND, QB3
8.05 MenoBrown - Matt Hasselbeck, ???, QB28
1.12 MenoBrown - Darren McFadden, OAK, RB8
6.05 MenoBrown - Marshawn Lynch, SEA, RB27
9.12 MenoBrown - Roy Helu, WAS, RB39
10.05 MenoBrown - Ryan Torain, WAS, RB42
3.12 MenoBrown - Mike Williams, TBB, WR15
4.05 MenoBrown - Dez Bryant, DAL, WR19
5.12 MenoBrown - Kenny Britt, TEN, WR26
16.05 MenoBrown - Brandon Lafell, CAR, WR74
18.05 MenoBrown - Roscoe Parrish, BUF, WR89
7.12 MenoBrown - Tony Moeaki, KCC, TE20
12.05 MenoBrown - Jeremy Shockey, CAR, TE28
14.05 MenoBrown - Anthony Fasano, MIA, TE29
13.12 MenoBrown - Josh Brown, STL, PK7
17.12 MenoBrown - Joe Nedney, SFF, PK28
15.12 MenoBrown - Houston Texans, DST30
11.12 MenoBrown - Green Bay Packers, DST5
4.04 Pictus Cat - Matt Schaub, HOU, QB11
7.13 Pictus Cat - Carson Palmer, ???, QB24
10.04 Pictus Cat - Andy Dalton, CIN, QB32
1.13 Pictus Cat - Steven Jackson, STL, RB9
2.04 Pictus Cat - Frank Gore, SFF, RB11
5.13 Pictus Cat - Deangelo Williams, CAR, RB24
3.13 Pictus Cat - Jeremy Maclin, PHI, WR16
8.04 Pictus Cat - Mike Thomas, JAX, WR36
9.13 Pictus Cat - Derrick Mason, BAL, WR47
13.13 Pictus Cat - Donald Driver, GBP, WR66
14.04 Pictus Cat - Kevin Walter, HOU, WR68
18.04 Pictus Cat - Damian Williams, TEN, WR88
6.04 Pictus Cat - Tony Gonzalez, ATL, TE11
17.13 Pictus Cat - Fred Davis, WAS, TE32
15.13 Pictus Cat - Ryan Succup, KCC, PK18
16.04 Pictus Cat - Shaun Suisham, PIT, PK22
11.13 Pictus Cat - New England Patriots, DST6
12.04 Pictus Cat - Chicago Bears, DST8
1.14 Crippler - Aaron Rodgers, GB, QB2
7.14 Crippler - Donovan Mcnabb, ???, QB25
6.03 Crippler - Joseph Addai, IND, RB 26
8.03 Crippler - Chris Wells, ARZ, RB33
10.03 Crippler - LaDainian Tomlinson, NYJ, RB41
12.03 Crippler - Demarco Murray, DAL, RB53
16.03 Crippler - Delone Carter, IND, RB56
3.14 Crippler - Marques Colston, NOS, WR17
4.03 Crippler - Santonio Holmes, NY?, WR18
5.14 Crippler - Michael Crabtree, SFF, WR27
14.03 Crippler - Steve Breaston, ARI/FA, WR67
17.14 Crippler - Devery Henderson, NOS, WR85
2.03 Crippler - Antonio Gates, SDC, TE2
11.14 Crippler - John Carlson, SEA, TE27
15.14 Crippler - Jay Feeley, ARZ, PK19
18.03 Crippler - Ksi Forbath, ???, PK29
9.14 Crippler - Pittsburgh Steelers, DEF1
13.14 Crippler - Tampa Bay Bucs, DST19
3.15 Rudy - Ben Roethlisberger, PIT, QB9
6.02 Rudy - Ryan Fitzpatrick, BUF, QB20
2.02 Rudy - Rashard Mendenhall, PIT, RB10
4.02 Rudy - Jahvid Best, DET, RB18
8.02 Rudy - James Starks, GBP, RB32
18.02 Rudy - Kendall Hunter, SFF, RB62
7.15 Rudy - Johnny Knox, CHI, WR35
9.15 Rudy - Greg Little, CLE, WR48
10.02 Rudy - Malcom Floyd, SDC, WR50
11.15 Rudy - Nate Burleson, DET, WR59
16.02 Rudy - Danario Alexander, STL, WR73
17.15 Rudy - David Nelson, BUF, WR86
1.15 Rudy - Jason Witten, DAL, TE1
5.15 Rudy - Zach Miller, OAK, TE9
13.15 Rudy - Neil Rackers, HOU, PK8
15.15 Rudy - David Akers, ???, PK20
12.02 Rudy - Baltimore Ravens, DST7
14.02 Rudy - Tennessee Titans, DST22
3.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Josh Freeman, TBB, QB10
7.16 Jeff Tefertiller - David Garrard, JAX, QB26
8.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Jason Campbell, OAK, QB27
4.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Mark Ingram, NOS, RB17
5.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Felix Jones, DAL, RB25
9.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Michael Bush, OAK, RB40
18.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Taiwan Jones, OAK, RB61
1.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Larry Fitzgerald, ARZ, WR4
2.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Hakeem Nicks, NYG, WR5
10.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Hines Ward, PIT, WR49
15.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Mike Sims-Walker, ???, WR72
17.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Plaxico Burress, ??? WR87
6.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Chris Cooley, WAS, TE10
11.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Jacob Tamme, IND, TE28
12.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Sebastian Janikowski, OAK, PK1
16.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Olindo Mare, SEA, PK21
13.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Seattle Seahawks, DST20
14.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Oakland Raiders, DST21
5.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Tim Tebow, DEN, QB15
1.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Adrian Peterson, MIN, RB1
8.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Tashard Choice, DAL, RB38
9.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Danny Woodhead, NEP, RB38
16.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Darren Sproles, ???, RB60
2.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Mike Wallace, PIT, WR8
3.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Wes Welker, NEP, WR9
7.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Chad Ochocinco, ???, WR30
10.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Anthony Armstrong, WAS, WR53
15.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Nate Washington, TEN, WR70
17.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Mohamed Massaquoi, CLE, WR78
6.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Brent Celek, PHI, TE18
11.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Visanthe Shiancoe, MIN, TE25
12.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Stephen Gostkowski,NEP, PK3
13.01 AhrnCityPahnder - Atlanta Falcons, DST15
14.16 AhrnCityPahnder - Miami Dolphins, DST27
3.02 Sigmund Bloom - Tony Romo, DAL, QB7
18.15 Sigmund Bloom - Jon Kitna, DAL, QB36
1.02 Sigmund Bloom - Arian Foster, HOU, RB2
2.15 Sigmund Bloom - Michael Turner, ATL, RB14
10.15 Sigmund Bloom - Mike Tolbert, SDC RB49
11.02 Sigmund Bloom - Montario Hardesty, CLE, RB50
4.15 Sigmund Bloom - Austin Collie, IND, WR23
7.02 Sigmund Bloom - AJ Green, CIN, WR31
8.15 Sigmund Bloom - Jacoby Ford, OAK, WR38
9.02 Sigmund Bloom - Braylon Edwards, NYJ, WR39
12.15 Sigmund Bloom - Earl Bennett, CHI, WR62
13.02 Sigmund Bloom - Donnie Avery, STL, WR63
17.02 Sigmund Bloom - Josh Morgan, SFF, WR79
5.02 Sigmund Bloom - Jimmy Graham, NOS, TE6
6.15 Sigmund Bloom - Aaron Hernandez, NEP, TE17
16.15 Sigmund Bloom - Matt Prater, DEN, PK25
14.15 Sigmund Bloom - Indianapolis Colts, DST26
15.02 Sigmund Bloom - Buffalo Bills, DST28
3.03 Fiddles - Matt Ryan, ATL, QB8
13.03 Fiddles - Alex Smith, SFF, QB33
1.03 Fiddles - Chris Johnson, TEN, RB3
4.14 Fiddles - David Thomas, MIA, RB22
7.03 Fiddles - Ryan Williams, ARZ, RB30
14.14 Fiddles - Jacquizz Rodgers, ATL RB55
2.14 Fiddles - Reggie Wayne, IND, WR7
6.14 Fiddles - Steve Smith, CAR, WR29
9.03 Fiddles - Deion Branch, NEP, WR40
10.14 Fiddles - Emmanuel Sanders, PIT, WR52
17.03 Fiddles - Vincent Brown, SDC, WR80
18.14 Fiddles - Torrey Smith, BAL, WR94
5.03 Fiddles - Owen Daniels, HOU, TE7
8.14 Fiddles - Ben Watson, CLE, TE23
15.03 Fiddles - Josh Scobee, JAC, PK12
16.14 Fiddles - Rian Lindell, BUF, PK24
11.03 Fiddles - New York Jets DST3
12.14 Fiddles - San Fransico Forty Niners, DST14
4.13 Reaper - Joe Flacco, BAL, QB13
5.04 Reaper - Jay Cutler, CHI, QB16
1.04 Reaper - Ray Rice, BAL, RB4
7.04 Reaper - Ryan Grant, GBP, RB31
8.13 Reaper - C.J. Spiller, BUF, RB36
10.13 Reaper - Ronnie Brown, ???, RB48
2.13 Reaper - Greg Jennings, GBP, WR6
3.04 Reaper - Vincent Jackson, SDC, WR10
11.04 Reaper - Lee Evans, BUF, WR54
13.04 Reaper - Jacoby Jones, HOU, WR64
16.13 Reaper - Jordan Shipley, CIN, WR77
18.13 Reaper - Jabar Gaffney, DEN, WR93
6.13 Reaper - Dustin Keller NYJ TE16
9.04 Reaper - Todd Heap. BAL, TE24
14.13 Reaper - Robbie Gould, CHI, PK11
17.04 Reaper - Phil Dawson, CLE, PK26
12.13 Reaper - New Orleans Saints, DST 13
15.04 Reaper - Jacksonville Jaguars, DST29
4.12 Red Zone - Eli Manning, NYG, QB12
7.05 Red Zone - Kyle Orton, DEN, QB21
5.05 Red Zone - Shonn Greene, NYJ, RB23
10.12 Red Zone - Pierre Thomas, NOS, RB47
11.05 Red Zone - Jason Snelling, ATL, RB51
18.12 Red Zone - Tim Hightower, ARI, RB64
1.05 Red Zone - Andre Johnson, HOU, WR1
3.05 Red Zone - Desean Jackson, PHI, WR11
8.12 Red Zone - Davone Bess, MIA, WR37
9.05 Red Zone - Jonathan Baldwin, KCC, WR41
16.12 Red Zone - Titus Young, DET, WR76
17.05 Red Zone - Darrius Heyward-Bey, OAK, WR81
2.12 Red Zone - Dallas Clark, IND, TE4
6.12 Red Zone - Marcedes Lewis JAC TE15
12.12 Red Zone - Mason Crosby, GBP, PK2
15.05 Red Zone - Alex Henery, PHI, PK13
13.05 Red Zone - Arizona Cardinals, DST16
14.12 Red Zone - Cleveland Browns, DST25
5.06 EvilGrin 72 - Matt Cassel, KCC, QB17
9.06 EvilGrin 72 - Christian Ponder, MIN, QB31
18.11 EvilGrin 72 - Ricky Stanzi, KCC, QB35
1.06 EvilGrin 72 - Jamaal Charles, KCC, RB5
2.11 EvilGrin 72 - Peyton Hillis, CLE, RB13
10.11 EvilGrin 72 - Bernard Scott, CIN, RB46
11.06 EvilGrin 72 - Benjarvus Green-Ellis, NEP, RB52
3.06 EvilGrin 72 - Miles Austin, DAL, WR12
4.11 EvilGrin 72 - Brandon Lloyd, DEN, WR22
7.06 EvilGrin 72 - Mario Manningham, NYG WR32
14.11 EvilGrin 72 - Mark Clayton, STL, WR69
17.06 EvilGrin 72 - Golden Tate, SFF, WR82
6.11 EvilGrin 72 - Jermaine Gresham, CIN, TE14
8.11 EvilGrin 72 - Greg Olsen, CHI, TE22
13.06 EvilGrin 72 - Garret Hartley, NOS, PK4
16.11 EvilGrin 72 - Connor Barth, TBB, PK23
12.11 EvilGrin 72 - Minnesota Vikings, DST12
15.06 EvilGrin 72 - Washington Redskins, DST30
2.10 Fullback Fro - Philip Rivers, SDC, QB6
7.07 Fullback Fro - Kevin Kolb, QB22
1.07 Fullback Fro - LeSean McCoy, PHI, RB6
3.07 Fullback Fro - Ryan Mathews, SDC, RB15
10.10 Fullback Fro - Reggie Bush, NOS, RB45
16.10 Fullback Fro - Rashard Jennings, JAX RB59
4.10 Fullback Fro - Steve Johnson, BUF, WR21
5.07 Fullback Fro - Percy Harvin, MIN, WR24
9.07 Fullback Fro - Santana Moss, WAS, WR42
11.07 Fullback Fro - Arrelious Benn, TBB, WR55
17.07 Fullback Fro - Ben Obomanu, SEA, WR83
18.10 Fullback Fro - Blair White, IND, WR92
6.10 Fullback Fro - Rob Gronkowski, NEP, TE13
8.10 Fullback Fro - Heath Miller, PIT, TE21
14.10 Fullback Fro - Adam Vinatieri,IND, PK10
15.07 Fullback Fro - Matt Bryant, ATL, PK14
12.10 Fullback Fro - Detroit Lions, DST11
13.07 Fullback Fro - Cincinnati Bengals, DST17
2.09 Dpease - Tom Brady, NEP, QB5
8.09 Dpease - Cam Newton, CAR, QB30
1.08 Dpease - Maurice Jones-Drew, JAX, RB7
6.09 Dpease - Fred Jackson, BUF, RB29
10.09 Dpease - Donald Brown, IND, RB44
16.09 Dpease - Marion Barber, DAL, RB58
3.08 Dpease - Dwayne Bowe, KCC, WR13
4.09 Dpease - Anquan Boldin, BAL, WR20
7.08 Dpease - Julio Jones, ATL, WR33
9.08 Dpease - Lance Moore, NOS, WR43
11.08 Dpease - Randy Moss, ???, WR56
15.08 Dpease - Eddie Royal, WAS, WR71
18.09 Dpease - Roy Williams, DAL, WR91
5.08 Dpease - Kellen Winslow Jr, TBB, TE8
14.09 Dpease - Lawrence Tynes, NYG, PK9
17.08 Dpease - John Kasay, CAR, PK27
12.09 Dpease - Dallas Cowboys, DST10
13.08 Dpease - Kansas City Chiefs, DST18
5.09 Twilight - Mark Sanchez, NYJ, QB18
7.09 Twilight - Colt McCoy, CLE, QB23
2.08 Twilight - Matt Forte, CHI, RB12
4.08 Twilight - LeGarrette Blount, TBB, RB21
8.08 Twilight - Shane Vereen, NEP, RB35
18.08 Twilight - Toby Gerhart, MIN, RB63
1.09 Twilight - Roddy White, ATL, WR2
6.08 Twilight - Pierre Garcon, IND, WR28
9.09 Twilight - Steve Smith, NYG, WR44
11.09 Twilight - Jason Hill, JAX, WR57
12.08 Twilight - Danny Amendola, STL, WR61
17.09 Twilight - Seyi Ajirotutu, SDC, WR84
3.09 Twilight - Vernon Davis, SFF, TE5
16.08 Twilight - Lance Kendricks, STL, TE30
13.09 Twilight - Rob Bironas, TEN, PK5
15.09 Twilight - Dan Carpenter, MIA, PK15
10.08 Twilight - Philadelphia Eagles, DST2
14.08 Twilight - Denver Broncos, DST24
2.07 RC94 - Drew Brees, NOS, QB4
8.07 RC94 - Chad Henne, MIA, QB29
3.10 RC94 - Knowshon Moreno, DEN, RB16
4.07 RC94 - Jonathan Stewart, CAR, RB20
10.07 RC94 - Brandon Jacobs, NYG, RB43
17.10 RC94 - Mike Goodson, CAR, RB60
1.10 RC94 - Calvin Johnson, DET, WR3
5.10 RC94 - Sidney Rice, MIN, WR25
9.10 RC94 - Jordy Nelson, GBP, WR45
12.07 RC94 - James Jones, ???, WR60
16.07 RC94 - Eric Decker, DEN, WR75
18.07 RC94 - Brandon Tate, NEP, WR90
6.07 RC94 - Brandon Pettigrew, DET, TE12
7.10 RC94 - Jared Cook, TEN, TE19
13.10 RC94 - Nate Kaeding, SDC, PK6
15.10 RC94 - Ryan Longwell, MIN, PK16
11.10 RC94 - New York Giants, DST4
14.07 RC94 - St Louis Rams, DST23
1.11 Norseman - Michael Vick, PHI, QB1
5.11 Norseman - Mathew Stafford, STL, QB19
18.06 Norseman - Shaun Hill, DET, QB34
4.06 Norseman - Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG, RB19
6.06 Norseman - Cedric Benson, CIN, RB28
8.06 Norseman - Mikel LeShoure, DET, RB34
14.06 Norseman - Thomas Jones, KC, RB54
16.06 Norseman - Willis McGahee, ???, RB57
3.11 Norseman - Brandon Marshall, MIA, WR14
7.11 Norseman - Mike Williams, SEA, WR34
9.11 Norseman - Terrell Owens, ???, WR46
10.06 Norseman - Robert Meachem, NOS, WR51
11.11 Norseman - Jerome Simpson, CIN, WR58
13.11 Norseman - Jericho Cotchery, NYJ, WR65
2.06 Norseman - Jermichael Finley, GBP, TE3
17.11 Norseman - Kevin Boss, NYG, TE31
15.11 Norseman - Billy Cundiff, BAL, PK17
12.06 Norseman - San Diego Chargers, DST9
2.05 MenoBrown - Peyton Manning, IND, QB3
8.05 MenoBrown - Matt Hasselbeck, ???, QB28
1.12 MenoBrown - Darren McFadden, OAK, RB8
6.05 MenoBrown - Marshawn Lynch, SEA, RB27
9.12 MenoBrown - Roy Helu, WAS, RB39
10.05 MenoBrown - Ryan Torain, WAS, RB42
3.12 MenoBrown - Mike Williams, TBB, WR15
4.05 MenoBrown - Dez Bryant, DAL, WR19
5.12 MenoBrown - Kenny Britt, TEN, WR26
16.05 MenoBrown - Brandon Lafell, CAR, WR74
18.05 MenoBrown - Roscoe Parrish, BUF, WR89
7.12 MenoBrown - Tony Moeaki, KCC, TE20
12.05 MenoBrown - Jeremy Shockey, CAR, TE28
14.05 MenoBrown - Anthony Fasano, MIA, TE29
13.12 MenoBrown - Josh Brown, STL, PK7
17.12 MenoBrown - Joe Nedney, SFF, PK28
15.12 MenoBrown - Houston Texans, DST30
11.12 MenoBrown - Green Bay Packers, DST5
4.04 Pictus Cat - Matt Schaub, HOU, QB11
7.13 Pictus Cat - Carson Palmer, ???, QB24
10.04 Pictus Cat - Andy Dalton, CIN, QB32
1.13 Pictus Cat - Steven Jackson, STL, RB9
2.04 Pictus Cat - Frank Gore, SFF, RB11
5.13 Pictus Cat - Deangelo Williams, CAR, RB24
3.13 Pictus Cat - Jeremy Maclin, PHI, WR16
8.04 Pictus Cat - Mike Thomas, JAX, WR36
9.13 Pictus Cat - Derrick Mason, BAL, WR47
13.13 Pictus Cat - Donald Driver, GBP, WR66
14.04 Pictus Cat - Kevin Walter, HOU, WR68
18.04 Pictus Cat - Damian Williams, TEN, WR88
6.04 Pictus Cat - Tony Gonzalez, ATL, TE11
17.13 Pictus Cat - Fred Davis, WAS, TE32
15.13 Pictus Cat - Ryan Succup, KCC, PK18
16.04 Pictus Cat - Shaun Suisham, PIT, PK22
11.13 Pictus Cat - New England Patriots, DST6
12.04 Pictus Cat - Chicago Bears, DST8
1.14 Crippler - Aaron Rodgers, GB, QB2
7.14 Crippler - Donovan Mcnabb, ???, QB25
6.03 Crippler - Joseph Addai, IND, RB 26
8.03 Crippler - Chris Wells, ARZ, RB33
10.03 Crippler - LaDainian Tomlinson, NYJ, RB41
12.03 Crippler - Demarco Murray, DAL, RB53
16.03 Crippler - Delone Carter, IND, RB56
3.14 Crippler - Marques Colston, NOS, WR17
4.03 Crippler - Santonio Holmes, NY?, WR18
5.14 Crippler - Michael Crabtree, SFF, WR27
14.03 Crippler - Steve Breaston, ARI/FA, WR67
17.14 Crippler - Devery Henderson, NOS, WR85
2.03 Crippler - Antonio Gates, SDC, TE2
11.14 Crippler - John Carlson, SEA, TE27
15.14 Crippler - Jay Feeley, ARZ, PK19
18.03 Crippler - Ksi Forbath, ???, PK29
9.14 Crippler - Pittsburgh Steelers, DEF1
13.14 Crippler - Tampa Bay Bucs, DST19
3.15 Rudy - Ben Roethlisberger, PIT, QB9
6.02 Rudy - Ryan Fitzpatrick, BUF, QB20
2.02 Rudy - Rashard Mendenhall, PIT, RB10
4.02 Rudy - Jahvid Best, DET, RB18
8.02 Rudy - James Starks, GBP, RB32
18.02 Rudy - Kendall Hunter, SFF, RB62
7.15 Rudy - Johnny Knox, CHI, WR35
9.15 Rudy - Greg Little, CLE, WR48
10.02 Rudy - Malcom Floyd, SDC, WR50
11.15 Rudy - Nate Burleson, DET, WR59
16.02 Rudy - Danario Alexander, STL, WR73
17.15 Rudy - David Nelson, BUF, WR86
1.15 Rudy - Jason Witten, DAL, TE1
5.15 Rudy - Zach Miller, OAK, TE9
13.15 Rudy - Neil Rackers, HOU, PK8
15.15 Rudy - David Akers, ???, PK20
12.02 Rudy - Baltimore Ravens, DST7
14.02 Rudy - Tennessee Titans, DST22
3.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Josh Freeman, TBB, QB10
7.16 Jeff Tefertiller - David Garrard, JAX, QB26
8.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Jason Campbell, OAK, QB27
4.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Mark Ingram, NOS, RB17
5.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Felix Jones, DAL, RB25
9.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Michael Bush, OAK, RB40
18.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Taiwan Jones, OAK, RB61
1.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Larry Fitzgerald, ARZ, WR4
2.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Hakeem Nicks, NYG, WR5
10.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Hines Ward, PIT, WR49
15.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Mike Sims-Walker, ???, WR72
17.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Plaxico Burress, ??? WR87
6.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Chris Cooley, WAS, TE10
11.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Jacob Tamme, IND, TE28
12.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Sebastian Janikowski, OAK, PK1
16.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Olindo Mare, SEA, PK21
13.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Seattle Seahawks, DST20
14.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Oakland Raiders, DST21
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QB: Rodgers-McNabb
I got one of the best and an okay backup. Just for injury as I dont expect to use Mcnabb often but in the late 7th it is not bad. I probably dont change this at all if I could redo. Hasselbeck would have been the other alternative in the 8th but I got Beanie and very happy with him
RB: Addai-Beanie-LT-D. Murray-Carter
As usual. These suck but I think tons of RB's out there to be had to help the cause. Almost wonder if Beanie drops(doubt it) if I take Leshoure. Now feeling better as last 2 should be PPR guys and LT for TD's also. Not bad overall as I hope to have the Indy RB no matter what and one of the other ones to give me a decent score. Carter went much early in the other drafts so I feel nice getting him in the 16th. I know most will disagree but not much I change here. Maybe go Leshoure in the 8th but I dont think Beanie drops to me and I think you will see a DeAngelo year out of him like when they drafted Stewart who was way better than Williams
WR: Colston-Holmes-Crabtree-Breaston-Henderson
I am liking this trio. Colston will have up and down games but that is okay. I will get some high reward guys later. Holmes will probably end up back in Jets and I like him alot. I expect Crabtree to improve in year 3. Very happy with this. Breaston should start and Arizona is bringing in a QB to help the cause. Boldin was a guy I really like also that I might have taken over Colston or Holmes but he dropped in PDSL and was hoping so here also. The only RB I liked was Daniel Thomas who went after Colston and thought he might drop also but alas no. Some guys I wanted along with Henderson and was tough deciding between the 5 I looked at. Henderson is nice insurance and he does have those big games also. Top 4 is as solid as they come
TE: Gates-Carlson
I got a stud. Would have rather Finley but could not go GB-GB. Got a nice backup for him also that is young. Love this duo and no changes needed. Think waiting on Carlson was very smart move
D- Pittsburgh-TB. Best in the land. Almost went Baltimore in 12th but snagged in front of me. All in all worked out fine taken them early. Tampa adds a nice mix to Pitt.
PK Feeley-Forbath. My weakest area but it is only PK and the least important position in league
Hoping my great QB, WR, TE and D cores can lead me far into this
I got one of the best and an okay backup. Just for injury as I dont expect to use Mcnabb often but in the late 7th it is not bad. I probably dont change this at all if I could redo. Hasselbeck would have been the other alternative in the 8th but I got Beanie and very happy with him
RB: Addai-Beanie-LT-D. Murray-Carter
As usual. These suck but I think tons of RB's out there to be had to help the cause. Almost wonder if Beanie drops(doubt it) if I take Leshoure. Now feeling better as last 2 should be PPR guys and LT for TD's also. Not bad overall as I hope to have the Indy RB no matter what and one of the other ones to give me a decent score. Carter went much early in the other drafts so I feel nice getting him in the 16th. I know most will disagree but not much I change here. Maybe go Leshoure in the 8th but I dont think Beanie drops to me and I think you will see a DeAngelo year out of him like when they drafted Stewart who was way better than Williams
WR: Colston-Holmes-Crabtree-Breaston-Henderson
I am liking this trio. Colston will have up and down games but that is okay. I will get some high reward guys later. Holmes will probably end up back in Jets and I like him alot. I expect Crabtree to improve in year 3. Very happy with this. Breaston should start and Arizona is bringing in a QB to help the cause. Boldin was a guy I really like also that I might have taken over Colston or Holmes but he dropped in PDSL and was hoping so here also. The only RB I liked was Daniel Thomas who went after Colston and thought he might drop also but alas no. Some guys I wanted along with Henderson and was tough deciding between the 5 I looked at. Henderson is nice insurance and he does have those big games also. Top 4 is as solid as they come
TE: Gates-Carlson
I got a stud. Would have rather Finley but could not go GB-GB. Got a nice backup for him also that is young. Love this duo and no changes needed. Think waiting on Carlson was very smart move
D- Pittsburgh-TB. Best in the land. Almost went Baltimore in 12th but snagged in front of me. All in all worked out fine taken them early. Tampa adds a nice mix to Pitt.
PK Feeley-Forbath. My weakest area but it is only PK and the least important position in league
Hoping my great QB, WR, TE and D cores can lead me far into this
Here's the final product:
QB- Peyton Manning, Matt Hasselbeck
Obviously got a big time durable QB in Peyton. I truly believe if Clark and Collie are healthy he easily has the best set of weapons he's ever had to work with. Also like the emphasis on rebuilding the OL. In the end went with Peyton over the likes of Brees and Rivers because of the bye week. Colts share a week 11 bye with Texans, Saints and Steelers. This is key because all of those teams are very solid at QB and it allowed me to draft a QB like Mcnabb, Hassellbeck, Kolb, etc and be reasonably assured they would not share the same bye week as Peyton. Strategy completed with the drafting of Hassellbeck.
RB- Mcfadden, Lynch, Helu, Torain,
Not a lot in terms of sheer numbers but I'm really fond of the group but of course a lot is going to hinge on Helu or Torain getting getting or splitting Redskin job and good health by DMAC and Lynch. DMAC was the #2 RB in PPG last year. IMO Lynch was the biggest draft day winner among RB's. No comp(so far) brought in and they made rebuilding the OL a priority. Love a big rebound year from contract year Lynch. Helu and Torain means I'm gambling I know Shanny's RB plans. Usually a bad plan but I hedged my bet and hope it hits.
WR- TB-Mike Williams, Dez Bryan, Kenny Britt, Brandon Lafell, Roscoe Parrish
Just love the top 3. All of them have WR1, top 10 potential. I felt Britt in particular was a good bargain which I suppose was due to fear of suspension and QB play. The suspension is up in the air but I think he's going to be OK since the league was locked out and his games when Kerry Collins was the QB was night and day versus when VY was QB. My point being if you can dominate with Collins as your QB I'm not to worried about QB play. I ignored this position for a long time after picking these 3. Ended up with Lafell who had some usable games and has a chance to be Panthers #1WR. Parrish was having a very productive spurt of games before getting injured last year and so far I'm not seeing a reason why he can't pick up from were he left off.
TE- Moeaki, Shockey, Fasano.
The bane of my team but I don't think it's as bad as it looks. Moeaki had 47 grabs in 15 games so close to 50 as a rook and it's not unreasonable at all to think he could take a second year improvement and be a 60+ catch TE. Very worried about him being staying healthy however. Shockey is going to a team that stressed they want to use the TE and frankly don't have a lot of other options and I think he can be a 40-50 catch guy but again am worried about him staying on field. So with my last pick I picked Fasano who by and large has had good healthy albeit with some less than stellar production. Not an impressive group but if all 3 or 2 out of the 3 can stay healthy I think they will contribute enough.
D- Packers and Texans. I think Packers D has chance to be the best this season. Texans have some talented players on D.
K-Josh Brown and Nedney. Brown was a top 5 kicker last year, plays in a dome and if the offense takes another step forward I think he can as well. Just hope Nedney reclaims his job and I have two kickers.
QB- Peyton Manning, Matt Hasselbeck
Obviously got a big time durable QB in Peyton. I truly believe if Clark and Collie are healthy he easily has the best set of weapons he's ever had to work with. Also like the emphasis on rebuilding the OL. In the end went with Peyton over the likes of Brees and Rivers because of the bye week. Colts share a week 11 bye with Texans, Saints and Steelers. This is key because all of those teams are very solid at QB and it allowed me to draft a QB like Mcnabb, Hassellbeck, Kolb, etc and be reasonably assured they would not share the same bye week as Peyton. Strategy completed with the drafting of Hassellbeck.
RB- Mcfadden, Lynch, Helu, Torain,
Not a lot in terms of sheer numbers but I'm really fond of the group but of course a lot is going to hinge on Helu or Torain getting getting or splitting Redskin job and good health by DMAC and Lynch. DMAC was the #2 RB in PPG last year. IMO Lynch was the biggest draft day winner among RB's. No comp(so far) brought in and they made rebuilding the OL a priority. Love a big rebound year from contract year Lynch. Helu and Torain means I'm gambling I know Shanny's RB plans. Usually a bad plan but I hedged my bet and hope it hits.
WR- TB-Mike Williams, Dez Bryan, Kenny Britt, Brandon Lafell, Roscoe Parrish
Just love the top 3. All of them have WR1, top 10 potential. I felt Britt in particular was a good bargain which I suppose was due to fear of suspension and QB play. The suspension is up in the air but I think he's going to be OK since the league was locked out and his games when Kerry Collins was the QB was night and day versus when VY was QB. My point being if you can dominate with Collins as your QB I'm not to worried about QB play. I ignored this position for a long time after picking these 3. Ended up with Lafell who had some usable games and has a chance to be Panthers #1WR. Parrish was having a very productive spurt of games before getting injured last year and so far I'm not seeing a reason why he can't pick up from were he left off.
TE- Moeaki, Shockey, Fasano.
The bane of my team but I don't think it's as bad as it looks. Moeaki had 47 grabs in 15 games so close to 50 as a rook and it's not unreasonable at all to think he could take a second year improvement and be a 60+ catch TE. Very worried about him being staying healthy however. Shockey is going to a team that stressed they want to use the TE and frankly don't have a lot of other options and I think he can be a 40-50 catch guy but again am worried about him staying on field. So with my last pick I picked Fasano who by and large has had good healthy albeit with some less than stellar production. Not an impressive group but if all 3 or 2 out of the 3 can stay healthy I think they will contribute enough.
D- Packers and Texans. I think Packers D has chance to be the best this season. Texans have some talented players on D.
K-Josh Brown and Nedney. Brown was a top 5 kicker last year, plays in a dome and if the offense takes another step forward I think he can as well. Just hope Nedney reclaims his job and I have two kickers.
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The final results:
1.11 Norseman - Michael Vick, PHI, QB1 (7)
5.11 Norseman - Mathew Stafford, STL, QB19 (9)
18.06 Norseman - Shaun Hill, DET, QB (9)
4.06 Norseman - Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG, RB19 (7)
6.06 Norseman - Cedric Benson, CIN, RB28 (7)
8.06 Norseman - Mikel LeShoure, DET, RB34 (9)
14.06 Norseman - Thomas Jones, KC, RB54 (6)
16.06 Norseman - Willis McGahee, ???, RB57 (?)
3.11 Norseman - Brandon Marshall, MIA, WR14 (5)
7.11 Norseman - Mike Williams, SEA, WR34 (6)
9.11 Norseman - Terrell Owens, ???, WR46 (?)
10.06 Norseman - Robert Meachem, NOS, WR51 (11)
11.11 Norseman - Jerome Simpson, CIN, WR58 (7)
13.11 Norseman - Jericho Cotchery, NYJ, WR65 (8)
2.06 Norseman - Jermichael Finley, GBP, TE3 (8)
17.11 Norseman - Kevin Boss, NYG, TE31 (7)
15.11 Norseman - Billy Cundiff, BAL, PK17 (5)
12.06 Norseman - San Diego Chargers, DST9 (6)
If things fall my way, I should be in the final 3, fighting for the championship. But there are too many things that have to fall in place for that to probably happen
1.11 Norseman - Michael Vick, PHI, QB1
5.11 Norseman - Mathew Stafford, STL, QB19
18.06 Norseman - Shaun Hill, DET, QB
Vick on a PPG basis is #1 by a wide margin and should give me an advantage. It just depends on how many games that I can get out of him. Knowing that he will most likely miss several games caused me to need another QB earlier than I would have liked. Hopefully the surgery on Stafford's shoulder fixes his injury problems, because I believe he will finish in the top 10. He should score for me several times besides Vick's bye week. However the concerns of injury forced me to purchase insurance in round 18. I don't like having to take 3 QB's, especially after taking 2 in the first 5 rounds, but felt that it was a neccessity.
Was hoping for Calvin Johnson in the first, but he went the pick before me. Other considerations: Mendenhall. If I had to do it again I might take Rodgers so that I wouldn't have to take a second QB so soon and wouldn't have to take a third. Grade A
4.06 Norseman - Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG, RB19
6.06 Norseman - Cedric Benson, CIN, RB28
8.06 Norseman - Mikel LeShoure, DET, RB34
14.06 Norseman - Thomas Jones, KC, RB54
16.06 Norseman - Willis McGahee, ???, RB57
Felt that I got value with all my RB picks. Bradshaw could sneek into the top ten. Benson (if he returns to CINN) should well out perform RB28. LeShoure should have several big games, especially if Best continues to get injured. Unless KC brings in another RB, T Jones will be the #2 to Charles and should have several good scores for me. I didn't like my round 16 pick. Would definitely change that if I could. I was targeting Delone Carter, but he went a few picks before me. I was considering Sproles and McGahee, or the TE I had been targeting for round 17 (Lance Kendricks), but decided not to take him yet. He went 2 picks later. I felt like I should have taken Sproles instead of McGahee. If Bradshaw and Benson had different bye weeks, I probably would have rolled with 4 RB's.
If I hadn't felt the need to take Stafford in the 5th, I would have loved to pick Deangelo Williams. Grade C+
3.11 Norseman - Brandon Marshall, MIA, WR14
7.11 Norseman - Mike Williams, SEA, WR34
9.11 Norseman - Terrell Owens, ???, WR46
10.06 Norseman - Robert Meachem, NOS, WR51
11.11 Norseman - Jerome Simpson, CIN, WR58
13.11 Norseman - Jericho Cotchery, NYJ, WR65
After going QB/TE, was glad to get a WR like Marshall in the 3rd. Just need him to stay out of trouble as he should have several big scores (if they get a better QB to throw him the ball). With another year under coach Carroll, hope for BMW to improve on last years production. As long as he doesn't end up at a place like Buffalo was 2 years ago, T.O. has always produced and should be a steal at WR 46. Meachem should have several big scores with Brees throwing to him, and if he can stay healthy (and Colsten's knee concerns) could be the #1 WR on a pass happy team. Looking for more games out of Simpson like he had at the end of the year. As long as the Jets don't resign both Edwards and Holmes, Cotchery should be starting. If they don't sign either he could be the #1.
Best case for my team, I have 6 #1 or #2 WR's: Worst case (Marshall suspended, Williams reverts to his Detroit ways, Owens doesn't get signed by anyone, Meachem hurt again,...), none.
Would have liked to take one more WR, but had to get the 3rd QB and 5th RB (to cover the week 7 bye). Grade C+ (with upside to be a B+/downside to be a D-)
2.06 Norseman - Jermichael Finley, GBP, TE3
17.11 Norseman - Kevin Boss, NYG, TE31
Loved getting Finley as the 3rd TE off the board, just need him to stay healthy. Was lucky to get Boss in the 17th, as he has gone in the 11th or 12 in the other leagues. Hope that I don't need him more than once though. Grade B+
15.11 Norseman - Billy Cundiff, BAL, PK17 (5)
12.06 Norseman - San Diego Chargers, DST9 (6)
Going with one K and DEF (like I did last year) which will leave me behind most everyone else, but wanted to use the extra spots for a 5th RB, and 3rd QB. The early byes will hopefully let me survive with more teams that can have a bad week. Grade D
Overall, I like my team, but need several things to fall my way to make it to the end.
Enjoyed the draft, guys, it way great.
1.11 Norseman - Michael Vick, PHI, QB1 (7)
5.11 Norseman - Mathew Stafford, STL, QB19 (9)
18.06 Norseman - Shaun Hill, DET, QB (9)
4.06 Norseman - Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG, RB19 (7)
6.06 Norseman - Cedric Benson, CIN, RB28 (7)
8.06 Norseman - Mikel LeShoure, DET, RB34 (9)
14.06 Norseman - Thomas Jones, KC, RB54 (6)
16.06 Norseman - Willis McGahee, ???, RB57 (?)
3.11 Norseman - Brandon Marshall, MIA, WR14 (5)
7.11 Norseman - Mike Williams, SEA, WR34 (6)
9.11 Norseman - Terrell Owens, ???, WR46 (?)
10.06 Norseman - Robert Meachem, NOS, WR51 (11)
11.11 Norseman - Jerome Simpson, CIN, WR58 (7)
13.11 Norseman - Jericho Cotchery, NYJ, WR65 (8)
2.06 Norseman - Jermichael Finley, GBP, TE3 (8)
17.11 Norseman - Kevin Boss, NYG, TE31 (7)
15.11 Norseman - Billy Cundiff, BAL, PK17 (5)
12.06 Norseman - San Diego Chargers, DST9 (6)
If things fall my way, I should be in the final 3, fighting for the championship. But there are too many things that have to fall in place for that to probably happen
1.11 Norseman - Michael Vick, PHI, QB1
5.11 Norseman - Mathew Stafford, STL, QB19
18.06 Norseman - Shaun Hill, DET, QB
Vick on a PPG basis is #1 by a wide margin and should give me an advantage. It just depends on how many games that I can get out of him. Knowing that he will most likely miss several games caused me to need another QB earlier than I would have liked. Hopefully the surgery on Stafford's shoulder fixes his injury problems, because I believe he will finish in the top 10. He should score for me several times besides Vick's bye week. However the concerns of injury forced me to purchase insurance in round 18. I don't like having to take 3 QB's, especially after taking 2 in the first 5 rounds, but felt that it was a neccessity.
Was hoping for Calvin Johnson in the first, but he went the pick before me. Other considerations: Mendenhall. If I had to do it again I might take Rodgers so that I wouldn't have to take a second QB so soon and wouldn't have to take a third. Grade A
4.06 Norseman - Ahmad Bradshaw, NYG, RB19
6.06 Norseman - Cedric Benson, CIN, RB28
8.06 Norseman - Mikel LeShoure, DET, RB34
14.06 Norseman - Thomas Jones, KC, RB54
16.06 Norseman - Willis McGahee, ???, RB57
Felt that I got value with all my RB picks. Bradshaw could sneek into the top ten. Benson (if he returns to CINN) should well out perform RB28. LeShoure should have several big games, especially if Best continues to get injured. Unless KC brings in another RB, T Jones will be the #2 to Charles and should have several good scores for me. I didn't like my round 16 pick. Would definitely change that if I could. I was targeting Delone Carter, but he went a few picks before me. I was considering Sproles and McGahee, or the TE I had been targeting for round 17 (Lance Kendricks), but decided not to take him yet. He went 2 picks later. I felt like I should have taken Sproles instead of McGahee. If Bradshaw and Benson had different bye weeks, I probably would have rolled with 4 RB's.
If I hadn't felt the need to take Stafford in the 5th, I would have loved to pick Deangelo Williams. Grade C+
3.11 Norseman - Brandon Marshall, MIA, WR14
7.11 Norseman - Mike Williams, SEA, WR34
9.11 Norseman - Terrell Owens, ???, WR46
10.06 Norseman - Robert Meachem, NOS, WR51
11.11 Norseman - Jerome Simpson, CIN, WR58
13.11 Norseman - Jericho Cotchery, NYJ, WR65
After going QB/TE, was glad to get a WR like Marshall in the 3rd. Just need him to stay out of trouble as he should have several big scores (if they get a better QB to throw him the ball). With another year under coach Carroll, hope for BMW to improve on last years production. As long as he doesn't end up at a place like Buffalo was 2 years ago, T.O. has always produced and should be a steal at WR 46. Meachem should have several big scores with Brees throwing to him, and if he can stay healthy (and Colsten's knee concerns) could be the #1 WR on a pass happy team. Looking for more games out of Simpson like he had at the end of the year. As long as the Jets don't resign both Edwards and Holmes, Cotchery should be starting. If they don't sign either he could be the #1.
Best case for my team, I have 6 #1 or #2 WR's: Worst case (Marshall suspended, Williams reverts to his Detroit ways, Owens doesn't get signed by anyone, Meachem hurt again,...), none.
Would have liked to take one more WR, but had to get the 3rd QB and 5th RB (to cover the week 7 bye). Grade C+ (with upside to be a B+/downside to be a D-)
2.06 Norseman - Jermichael Finley, GBP, TE3
17.11 Norseman - Kevin Boss, NYG, TE31
Loved getting Finley as the 3rd TE off the board, just need him to stay healthy. Was lucky to get Boss in the 17th, as he has gone in the 11th or 12 in the other leagues. Hope that I don't need him more than once though. Grade B+
15.11 Norseman - Billy Cundiff, BAL, PK17 (5)
12.06 Norseman - San Diego Chargers, DST9 (6)
Going with one K and DEF (like I did last year) which will leave me behind most everyone else, but wanted to use the extra spots for a 5th RB, and 3rd QB. The early byes will hopefully let me survive with more teams that can have a bad week. Grade D
Overall, I like my team, but need several things to fall my way to make it to the end.
Enjoyed the draft, guys, it way great.
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Pictus Cat
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4.04 Pictus Cat - Matt Schaub, HOU, QB11 (11)
7.13 Pictus Cat - Carson Palmer, ???, QB24 (???)
10.04 Pictus Cat - Andy Dalton, CIN, QB32 (7)
Schaub's weapons should be healthier, so at QB 11 he has a lot of upside based on past performance with this group. CIN QB for a by has nice weapons too, plus a shot at 3rd QB. I wish i could have gotten a better value pick on Palmer.
1.13 Pictus Cat - Steven Jackson, STL, RB9 (5)
2.04 Pictus Cat - Frank Gore, SFF, RB11 (7)
5.13 Pictus Cat - Deangelo Williams, CAR, RB24 (9)
SJax hasn't had it this good, Frank Gore should give good PPG, and DWill has performed well in the Carolina commitee with a shot to go improve his situation
3.13 Pictus Cat - Jeremy Maclin, PHI, WR16 (7)
8.04 Pictus Cat - Mike Thomas, JAX, WR36 (9)
9.13 Pictus Cat - Derrick Mason, BAL, WR47 (5)
13.13 Pictus Cat - Donald Driver, GBP, WR66 (8)
14.04 Pictus Cat - Kevin Walter, HOU, WR68 (11)
18.04 Pictus Cat - Damian Williams, TEN, WR88 (6)
I like this group, Damian could be TEN WR1, Kevin Walter has performed in the past, Drivier and Mason don't know they're done, Thomas and Maclin make a servicable 1-2.
6.04 Pictus Cat - Tony Gonzalez, ATL, TE11 (8)
17.13 Pictus Cat - Fred Davis, WAS, TE32 (5)
Gonzo gets to work the seam with Roddy taking a corner and safety, JJ taking a corner and LBs watching for JR & Turner. More ops. Davis seem to have the best ops from what was left.
15.13 Pictus Cat - Ryan Succup, KCC, PK18 (6)
16.04 Pictus Cat - Shaun Suisham, PIT, PK22 (11)
11.13 Pictus Cat - New England Patriots, DST6 (7)
12.04 Pictus Cat - Chicago Bears, DST8 (8)
Overall my team has very good balance on bye weeks and weaknesses (QB2 strength, RB depth, WR punch, TE depth) with upside at each position (Possible 3 QBs, 3 very good RBs rollin', Steady fill for WR 1, 2, 3 #, TE upside.)
7.13 Pictus Cat - Carson Palmer, ???, QB24 (???)
10.04 Pictus Cat - Andy Dalton, CIN, QB32 (7)
Schaub's weapons should be healthier, so at QB 11 he has a lot of upside based on past performance with this group. CIN QB for a by has nice weapons too, plus a shot at 3rd QB. I wish i could have gotten a better value pick on Palmer.
1.13 Pictus Cat - Steven Jackson, STL, RB9 (5)
2.04 Pictus Cat - Frank Gore, SFF, RB11 (7)
5.13 Pictus Cat - Deangelo Williams, CAR, RB24 (9)
SJax hasn't had it this good, Frank Gore should give good PPG, and DWill has performed well in the Carolina commitee with a shot to go improve his situation
3.13 Pictus Cat - Jeremy Maclin, PHI, WR16 (7)
8.04 Pictus Cat - Mike Thomas, JAX, WR36 (9)
9.13 Pictus Cat - Derrick Mason, BAL, WR47 (5)
13.13 Pictus Cat - Donald Driver, GBP, WR66 (8)
14.04 Pictus Cat - Kevin Walter, HOU, WR68 (11)
18.04 Pictus Cat - Damian Williams, TEN, WR88 (6)
I like this group, Damian could be TEN WR1, Kevin Walter has performed in the past, Drivier and Mason don't know they're done, Thomas and Maclin make a servicable 1-2.
6.04 Pictus Cat - Tony Gonzalez, ATL, TE11 (8)
17.13 Pictus Cat - Fred Davis, WAS, TE32 (5)
Gonzo gets to work the seam with Roddy taking a corner and safety, JJ taking a corner and LBs watching for JR & Turner. More ops. Davis seem to have the best ops from what was left.
15.13 Pictus Cat - Ryan Succup, KCC, PK18 (6)
16.04 Pictus Cat - Shaun Suisham, PIT, PK22 (11)
11.13 Pictus Cat - New England Patriots, DST6 (7)
12.04 Pictus Cat - Chicago Bears, DST8 (8)
Overall my team has very good balance on bye weeks and weaknesses (QB2 strength, RB depth, WR punch, TE depth) with upside at each position (Possible 3 QBs, 3 very good RBs rollin', Steady fill for WR 1, 2, 3 #, TE upside.)
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Cmon, you can't possibly like this group. You don't have a single WR1 outside of Thomas who is far from proven. You're going to get killed at the WR position.
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
You really like the 1 PK and 1 D thing. Not sold on this strategy at all. Add in the WR's are 6 but have some issues. See how it goes.
I look at the point here as to win, or at least go very deep, as opposed to just "make a good showing". The inflation of backup QB value is something I haven't been able to get behind. I refuse to believe that not taking a zero in my #1 QB's bye week and maybe getting a 5-10 point bump for a few weeks is going to help me more than AJ Green or Aaron Hernandez can... and the QBs available at the 6/7 turn aren't even assured of giving me that. QB: I think Romo can produce at or close to the pace of the top 6, and Kitna can produce at or close to Romo's level if Romo misses time. I like that Dallas has the earliest bye, that means there are more teams that can stub their toe during my zero week at QB to keep me going. If I get knocked out for having no QB in week 5, it really be due to poor production from my just about full strength RB/WR/TE more than the zero.
RB: I don't usually start RB/RB, but Turner was the easy BPA at 2.15. I think the roles of Tolbert and Hardesty are being underestimated right now and they should be fine bye/upside RBs to fill out this group. The backup roles for both of my #1s are probably going to be split, so handcuffing was not an option.
WR: Collie and Green were swings for the fences with WR1 upside (demonstrated in Collie's case). Edwards and Ford are both big play guys who should give me 4-6 top 10 weeks at worst. Bennett and Avery are potential #1s for their teams who should at least contribute some firewall weeks. Morgan is an underrated starting WR with some big play potential and with no real stud anchor assured of lasting all season, I felt like the extra body at WR would help more than an extra kicker. Potential week 8 bye problem, especially if Edwards returns to the Jets (I don't think he will)
TE: The strength of my team. Graham may end up being a top 5 TE on his own, and Hernandez has the potential to put up 20+ in any given if the matchups dictate it.
K: I wish my single K was a guy who stayed healthy last year, but Prater is still solid, just need him to play 16 games. The few potential points here and there and bye covering of the second kicker wasn't as important as giving my WR a little more depth to give this team a chance of going deep in the competition.
D: I just like to get two late defenses, just about any two will do. I prefer to get my pick of late round RBs (Tolbert/Hardesty) and WRs (Bennett/Avery) as opposed to geting defenses that have a better chance of big weeks. Even the unheralded defenses hit a few big weeks here and there, so I'll take my chances.
AhrnCityPahnder
Yinz-o-riffic
Ocho and Sproles finding jobs and producing will be important to this team. PCat asked above why I went Tebow instead of a TE at 5.01 -- there were only 5 TEs off the board when I came up at 4.16 -- I knew a lot of TEs would go before 6.16, but I figured maybe I'd still have a crack at getting maybe a top 12 guy. My TEs suck here, I know this.
You have to take some risks and you're more of a ##### to the positional runs when you're picking on the end.If I had gone TE at 5.01 and waited until 7.01 to get my QB2, this is the list of people who were left / went that round:7.05 Red Zone - Kyle Orton, DEN, QB217.07 Fullback Fro - Kevin Kolb, QB227.09 Twilight - Colt McCoy, CLE, QB237.13 Pictus Cat - Carson Palmer, ???, QB247.14 Crippler - Donovan Mcnabb, ???, QB257.16 Jeff Tefertiller - David Garrard, JAX, QB268.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Jason Campbell, OAK, QB278.05 MenoBrown - Matt Hasselbeck, ???, QB288.07 RC94 - Chad Henne, MIA, QB298.09 Dpease - Cam Newton, CAR, QB30 :X I like Tebow's upside way better than any of those picks (with the exception of maybe Kolb, assuming he is starting in AZ.) People seem to overlook or don't care that Tebow was putting up 30+ FF point weeks to close out the season last year. My WRs will put up a lot of points for me -- I have 6 guys that will be on the field all the time for their teams and 2 (potentially 3) elite WRs, I have APeterson and enough cobbled pieces behind him to get decent RB2 #s every week, and I think Bradford may be undervalued at this point. Not thrilled with this team, but I don't hate it either.LOL. No one told me 6 WR's were customary.
Answer: I think my top 3 WR's are studs. My top TE is not strong. My top two TE's are players with a good amount of injury history. Feel I'll get more use out of my 3rd TE than 6th WR.
Solid squad but I think the Shaun Hill over a second D or K was a bad move. When you commit to using a #1 and #5 picks on QB's on an 18 team roster you need to be done with the position. I understand Vick and Stafford missed games last year but I know Norseman commented about the few games Vick will miss. This is actually one of the biggest myths going. Vick does not miss games nearly as much as people think. He had a 4 year stretch were he started 15,15,15 and 16 games. He had the one major injury when he broke his leg in the preseason and other than that his missed time is actually pretty minimal. Last year was just the second year he missed more than one game in a season due to injury. Basically except the season he broke his leg in preseason he's missed a whopping total of 6 games. He's not a Manning but he's not exactly missing several games a year either.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
LHUCKS
Footballguy
I really don't likd this squad ACP, it seems like you're weak or average at every position
First off, big thanks to BnB and Twilight for starting and organizing the leagues and season scoring. Second, thanks to Reaper for organizing our league in particular. Third, thanks to Pictus cat for organizing the draft results for discussion with leading questions. Lastly, thanks to all in SSl 1 for an interesting draft in the strangest year yet for pre-season FF.
My thoughts on my team and response to PC comments:
4.12 Red Zone - Eli Manning, NYG, QB12
7.05 Red Zone - Kyle Orton, DEN, QB21
5.05 Red Zone - Shonn Greene, NYJ, RB23
10.12 Red Zone - Pierre Thomas, NOS, RB47
11.05 Red Zone - Jason Snelling, ATL, RB51
18.12 Red Zone - Tim Hightower, ARI, RB64
1.05 Red Zone - Andre Johnson, HOU, WR1
3.05 Red Zone - Desean Jackson, PHI, WR11
8.12 Red Zone - Davone Bess, MIA, WR37
9.05 Red Zone - Jonathan Baldwin, KCC, WR41
16.12 Red Zone - Titus Young, DET, WR76
17.05 Red Zone - Darrius Heyward-Bey, OAK, WR81
2.12 Red Zone - Dallas Clark, IND, TE4
6.12 Red Zone - Marcedes Lewis JAC TE15
12.12 Red Zone - Mason Crosby, GBP, PK2
15.05 Red Zone - Alex Henery, PHI, PK13
13.05 Red Zone - Arizona Cardinals, DST16
14.12 Red Zone - Cleveland Browns, DST25
What are your thoughts on Baldwin vs Young? 2nd TE to Clark at 6.12?
I like the athletic ability and football skills of both Baldwin and Young, as well as the lack of an established WR2 on both teams, with the presence of a dominating (or a head case with potential to dominate) WR1. Also, decent to good QB, fairly solid running game on offenses with potential to score. These kids should be able to perform as high tier WR3, and both should flourish if they can get to practice ever with this danged lockout. My concern with rookies this year is hold outs, lack of time to establish repoire and timing, and conditioning at this level. Plus, none of these kids are drawing a paycheck yet. Isn't campus housing shut down for the summer? I can see problems for all rookies this year.
If you look at Lewis's numbers, his comments regarding the Garrard/Gabbert position "battle" and his presence in the red zone, this is a PPG scoring TE. This league provides value to such, and the probable departure of MSW makes Lewis all the more part of the passing game. If Gabbert gets the start, could be some friction in the team. Odd draft choice for the Jags.
My qbs, I think this is very strong, but only hitch is Orton not being traded yet. Could be a bye week issue maybe with Cin? If he stays in Den, will be a constant threat to/from Tebow. Would love to see him go to Min with Rice there. His name still comes up with AZ.
RBs, this is the weak point. Will Greene be the bell cow? Better be. Will Thomas get 50% of touches? have to hope so. I know Ingram is talented, but he is a rookie and Brees will be needing protection. It would be best for me if Bush goes on elsewhere as Thomas is actually a decent receiving back. Snelling is a free agent unless there is a change, and has had opportunities at Atl where he performed well. Will have near zero weeks, but if Turner has to sit, Snelling performs admirably. Hightower is the forgotten back at AZ and if there is a decent passing game this year, and Beanie is let go/traded, Hightower should get a fair number of touches. Not terrible, but the weak part of the lineup.
WR, a strong point. Except for the shared week 11 bye for my 2 dominant WR1s, should be a producing segment. DJ has injury risk, but is tough and a prominent part of the offense in Philly. AJ is AJ. Bess is actually PPR solid, kinda Welker like. If the Miami offense can solidify, he should be a producer week-to-week. Baldwin, Young are both dynamic rookies, see comment above. DHB, head case with talent, should have picked Edelman.
TE - I like the strength here. My concern with Clark is his concussion history and the likely tightening of the league policy on that. Wanted a strong second TE to go with in case of missed games.
K - Certain to have jobs on potent offenses.
D - no bye week issue and not pathetic
I am competitive, especially in the first half of the season. Will really be depending upon my RBs to produce sufficiently to avoid scoring deficits in that position.
Will post on other teams shortly.
My thoughts on my team and response to PC comments:
4.12 Red Zone - Eli Manning, NYG, QB12
7.05 Red Zone - Kyle Orton, DEN, QB21
5.05 Red Zone - Shonn Greene, NYJ, RB23
10.12 Red Zone - Pierre Thomas, NOS, RB47
11.05 Red Zone - Jason Snelling, ATL, RB51
18.12 Red Zone - Tim Hightower, ARI, RB64
1.05 Red Zone - Andre Johnson, HOU, WR1
3.05 Red Zone - Desean Jackson, PHI, WR11
8.12 Red Zone - Davone Bess, MIA, WR37
9.05 Red Zone - Jonathan Baldwin, KCC, WR41
16.12 Red Zone - Titus Young, DET, WR76
17.05 Red Zone - Darrius Heyward-Bey, OAK, WR81
2.12 Red Zone - Dallas Clark, IND, TE4
6.12 Red Zone - Marcedes Lewis JAC TE15
12.12 Red Zone - Mason Crosby, GBP, PK2
15.05 Red Zone - Alex Henery, PHI, PK13
13.05 Red Zone - Arizona Cardinals, DST16
14.12 Red Zone - Cleveland Browns, DST25
What are your thoughts on Baldwin vs Young? 2nd TE to Clark at 6.12?
I like the athletic ability and football skills of both Baldwin and Young, as well as the lack of an established WR2 on both teams, with the presence of a dominating (or a head case with potential to dominate) WR1. Also, decent to good QB, fairly solid running game on offenses with potential to score. These kids should be able to perform as high tier WR3, and both should flourish if they can get to practice ever with this danged lockout. My concern with rookies this year is hold outs, lack of time to establish repoire and timing, and conditioning at this level. Plus, none of these kids are drawing a paycheck yet. Isn't campus housing shut down for the summer? I can see problems for all rookies this year.
If you look at Lewis's numbers, his comments regarding the Garrard/Gabbert position "battle" and his presence in the red zone, this is a PPG scoring TE. This league provides value to such, and the probable departure of MSW makes Lewis all the more part of the passing game. If Gabbert gets the start, could be some friction in the team. Odd draft choice for the Jags.
My qbs, I think this is very strong, but only hitch is Orton not being traded yet. Could be a bye week issue maybe with Cin? If he stays in Den, will be a constant threat to/from Tebow. Would love to see him go to Min with Rice there. His name still comes up with AZ.
RBs, this is the weak point. Will Greene be the bell cow? Better be. Will Thomas get 50% of touches? have to hope so. I know Ingram is talented, but he is a rookie and Brees will be needing protection. It would be best for me if Bush goes on elsewhere as Thomas is actually a decent receiving back. Snelling is a free agent unless there is a change, and has had opportunities at Atl where he performed well. Will have near zero weeks, but if Turner has to sit, Snelling performs admirably. Hightower is the forgotten back at AZ and if there is a decent passing game this year, and Beanie is let go/traded, Hightower should get a fair number of touches. Not terrible, but the weak part of the lineup.
WR, a strong point. Except for the shared week 11 bye for my 2 dominant WR1s, should be a producing segment. DJ has injury risk, but is tough and a prominent part of the offense in Philly. AJ is AJ. Bess is actually PPR solid, kinda Welker like. If the Miami offense can solidify, he should be a producer week-to-week. Baldwin, Young are both dynamic rookies, see comment above. DHB, head case with talent, should have picked Edelman.
TE - I like the strength here. My concern with Clark is his concussion history and the likely tightening of the league policy on that. Wanted a strong second TE to go with in case of missed games.
K - Certain to have jobs on potent offenses.
D - no bye week issue and not pathetic
I am competitive, especially in the first half of the season. Will really be depending upon my RBs to produce sufficiently to avoid scoring deficits in that position.
Will post on other teams shortly.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Too much risk at RB and your WR depth is risky as well...rookie WRs are going to have a really tough time with the shortened camps...rookie QBs and WRs should be downgraded more than they already are due to the lockout.C
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If 6.12 and 9.5 were RBs, I think you would have been a lot stronger.
Norseman
Footballguy
I believe one defense is a viable strategy. Injury isn't going to take your defense out, only the one bye week (which I will expand upon later), and with an early bye week, there are more options for teams throwing up a bad score that my team can beat. The only team that was available for me to take with my last pick is Carolina. Week 6 they are at Atlanta, not exactly a team that they are likely to get a good defensive score against. In fact, last year their DEF/ST only scored 3 points at Atlanta. I felt the guarantee of locking up a top 10 QB scoring team that averaged over 20 ppg last year was more important than the few points that I would get from a second DEF.
The one kicker strategy is more risky, as an injury would guarantee a zero for every week he didn't play. I didn't play the strategy quite as well this year, as I don't expect Baltimore to be as high scoring as Green Bay was last year, although Crosby averaged only a little over half a point more than Cundiff last year. Obviously I will need some luck to get scoring from Cundiff all year (except for the first week of byes, when there will still be 11 other teams that could have a worse week than I will). And there is no guarantee that any kicker that I get in the 18th round will have a job. Hopefully the advantage that I have at QB and some of the other positions will carry me through the no kicker and defense weeks.
Finally, another reason that I feel good about the 1 K/1DEF strategy is that I believe that there is better than a 50% chance that there won't be any bye weeks this year. If the lockout continues through training camp (which I believe is a very likely) several weeks at the beginning of the season could be missed. All the teams scheduled to play in week 3 have the same bye weeks. The NFL has plans in place in case some of the season is missed, including I believe playing those missed week 3 games during their sceduled bye week.
If that scenario plays out, I will not be as badly effected by my 1K/1DEF strategy as some of you may think.
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Jeff Tefertiller
Footballguy
Drafting from the 16 holes makes things a little difficult so there are a few reaches.
3.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Josh Freeman, TBB, QB10
7.16 Jeff Tefertiller - David Garrard, JAX, QB26
8.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Jason Campbell, OAK, QB27
I like Freeman and felt I could not wait until the 5/6 turn for QB1. The other two are risky, but they were decent values considering the ways QBs were running. Campbell and Garrard as QB26/QB27 were worth the risk. I should have at least one good score each week from the position.
4.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Mark Ingram, NOS, RB17
5.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Felix Jones, DAL, RB25
9.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Michael Bush, OAK, RB40
18.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Taiwan Jones, OAK, RB61
I waited on RB1 and admit this is a weak position with crowded backfields. I like Ingram and thought Jones as RB25 was a steal in PPR. I paired Bush and Jones due to McFadden's injury history. Overall, I like this group ok, but not great.
1.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Larry Fitzgerald, ARZ, WR4
2.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Hakeem Nicks, NYG, WR5
10.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Hines Ward, PIT, WR49
15.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Mike Sims-Walker, ???, WR72
17.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Plaxico Burress, ??? WR87
After going WR/WR at the 1/2 turn, I waited for the rest. I like Ward as a solid WR3. The other two were upside guys who are proven but have hurdles to overcome. I like this WR corps a lot, especially the values of the last three.
6.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Chris Cooley, WAS, TE10
11.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Jacob Tamme, IND, TE28
Cooley was TE5 last year with only a few TDs. With Clark's injury, I like Tamme for a late season surge.
12.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Sebastian Janikowski, OAK, PK1
16.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Olindo Mare, SEA, PK21
13.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Seattle Seahawks, DST20
14.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Oakland Raiders, DST21
Two matching kickers and defenses hoping to catch big games here and there.
3.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Josh Freeman, TBB, QB10
7.16 Jeff Tefertiller - David Garrard, JAX, QB26
8.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Jason Campbell, OAK, QB27
I like Freeman and felt I could not wait until the 5/6 turn for QB1. The other two are risky, but they were decent values considering the ways QBs were running. Campbell and Garrard as QB26/QB27 were worth the risk. I should have at least one good score each week from the position.
4.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Mark Ingram, NOS, RB17
5.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Felix Jones, DAL, RB25
9.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Michael Bush, OAK, RB40
18.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Taiwan Jones, OAK, RB61
I waited on RB1 and admit this is a weak position with crowded backfields. I like Ingram and thought Jones as RB25 was a steal in PPR. I paired Bush and Jones due to McFadden's injury history. Overall, I like this group ok, but not great.
1.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Larry Fitzgerald, ARZ, WR4
2.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Hakeem Nicks, NYG, WR5
10.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Hines Ward, PIT, WR49
15.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Mike Sims-Walker, ???, WR72
17.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Plaxico Burress, ??? WR87
After going WR/WR at the 1/2 turn, I waited for the rest. I like Ward as a solid WR3. The other two were upside guys who are proven but have hurdles to overcome. I like this WR corps a lot, especially the values of the last three.
6.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Chris Cooley, WAS, TE10
11.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Jacob Tamme, IND, TE28
Cooley was TE5 last year with only a few TDs. With Clark's injury, I like Tamme for a late season surge.
12.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Sebastian Janikowski, OAK, PK1
16.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Olindo Mare, SEA, PK21
13.16 Jeff Tefertiller - Seattle Seahawks, DST20
14.01 Jeff Tefertiller - Oakland Raiders, DST21
Two matching kickers and defenses hoping to catch big games here and there.
LHUCKS
Footballguy
Below average QBs and TEs.A lot of risk/reward RB plays.
Strong but shallow at WR.
Don't like it Tefertiller, although I will admit drafting out of the 16 hole is a definitely a disadvantage.
I would have drafted more WRs and a more surefire RB1, but then again I'm not as high on Ingram as most.
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LHUCKS
Footballguy
this
Well, went through the draft log and the only RB that I wanted was Woodhead, maybe Tolbert. Not real hip on the GBP or AZ running backs at that point. Got Hightower in the 18th who will probably will be 30% or more of AZ ground game.I stated it was my weak point, but I think for most teams that are balanced or strong in WR that is the case.Interested in who you would have picked from available RBs and is it worth having a weak TE2? The week 11 byes for AJ and DJ kinda forced my hand at WR. If this wasn't a lockout year, I would be more comfortable with Baldwin (and young).
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
I had my eye on Tamme and SimsW when you took them. Could be one of those things that pays off.I noticed you are heavily invested in Oakland. How are you valuing da Raiders?
I join this group with another weaker RB core even if I am happy waiting on them
Reaper
Footballguy
4.13 Reaper - Joe Flacco, BAL, QB13
5.04 Reaper - Jay Cutler, CHI, QB16
I went the opposite way of Bloom, I bought into the QB rush 100%. As I said, I just hated my QB2 in the past 2 drafts so, my whole draft here was either get lucky and get a top 6 QB to fall to me in round 2 or grab 2 at the 4/5 turn....
I see in at least 1 other draft Rivers did fall to this spot.
Romo is the next QB IMO, and the fact that you can back him up with Kitna helps as we have seen ina few drafts now.
Just maybe my "top 6 QB's" should be "Top 7" ??????
But, I'm a big fan this year of both Flacco and Cutler, maybe I paid too much but, I think this combo is a strength of the team.
1.04 Reaper - Ray Rice, BAL, RB4
7.04 Reaper - Ryan Grant, GBP, RB31
8.13 Reaper - C.J. Spiller, BUF, RB36
10.13 Reaper - Ronnie Brown, ???, RB48
Also figured early on I would wind up with "only" four RB's. In that case it's nice to start off with Ray Rice as an anchor. I liked the value of Spiller and Grant in this format. Ronnie Brown I wasn't sure of. Talent wise I think he still has to give but, my other option was Mike Tolbert who I think I'm sold a little more on thanks to Bloom. At the time I thought Brown was the swing for the fence pick who could land in a better situation but, at this point I feel more like that s a pipe dream.
Overall again, different ways to go but, a solid overall group IMO.
2.13 Reaper - Greg Jennings, GBP, WR6
3.04 Reaper - Vincent Jackson, SDC, WR10
11.04 Reaper - Lee Evans, BUF, WR54
13.04 Reaper - Jacoby Jones, HOU, WR64
16.13 Reaper - Jordan Shipley, CIN, WR77
18.13 Reaper - Jabar Gaffney, DEN, WR93
I like this group a lot.... Solid top two and then 4 decent contributors. I was surprised to see Gaffney there for my last pick. I think he just went in SSL2 in round 13.
Again, no issues IMO, a solid group.
6.13 Reaper - Dustin Keller NYJ TE16
9.04 Reaper - Todd Heap. BAL, TE24
Well. Every Survivor team probably has a weakness somewhere - I like Keller a lot this year. Not a fan of Heap though.... At that point in the draft I wish I just would have waited and used this pick om something else.. Was hoping for Ben Watson to make it around the bend.
Overall I like this team. I think it's pretty sold other than TE2.
I don't feel super excited about it yet... Ronnie Brown situation would help things.
5.04 Reaper - Jay Cutler, CHI, QB16
I went the opposite way of Bloom, I bought into the QB rush 100%. As I said, I just hated my QB2 in the past 2 drafts so, my whole draft here was either get lucky and get a top 6 QB to fall to me in round 2 or grab 2 at the 4/5 turn....
I see in at least 1 other draft Rivers did fall to this spot.
Romo is the next QB IMO, and the fact that you can back him up with Kitna helps as we have seen ina few drafts now.
Just maybe my "top 6 QB's" should be "Top 7" ??????
But, I'm a big fan this year of both Flacco and Cutler, maybe I paid too much but, I think this combo is a strength of the team.
1.04 Reaper - Ray Rice, BAL, RB4
7.04 Reaper - Ryan Grant, GBP, RB31
8.13 Reaper - C.J. Spiller, BUF, RB36
10.13 Reaper - Ronnie Brown, ???, RB48
Also figured early on I would wind up with "only" four RB's. In that case it's nice to start off with Ray Rice as an anchor. I liked the value of Spiller and Grant in this format. Ronnie Brown I wasn't sure of. Talent wise I think he still has to give but, my other option was Mike Tolbert who I think I'm sold a little more on thanks to Bloom. At the time I thought Brown was the swing for the fence pick who could land in a better situation but, at this point I feel more like that s a pipe dream.
Overall again, different ways to go but, a solid overall group IMO.
2.13 Reaper - Greg Jennings, GBP, WR6
3.04 Reaper - Vincent Jackson, SDC, WR10
11.04 Reaper - Lee Evans, BUF, WR54
13.04 Reaper - Jacoby Jones, HOU, WR64
16.13 Reaper - Jordan Shipley, CIN, WR77
18.13 Reaper - Jabar Gaffney, DEN, WR93
I like this group a lot.... Solid top two and then 4 decent contributors. I was surprised to see Gaffney there for my last pick. I think he just went in SSL2 in round 13.
Again, no issues IMO, a solid group.
6.13 Reaper - Dustin Keller NYJ TE16
9.04 Reaper - Todd Heap. BAL, TE24
Well. Every Survivor team probably has a weakness somewhere - I like Keller a lot this year. Not a fan of Heap though.... At that point in the draft I wish I just would have waited and used this pick om something else.. Was hoping for Ben Watson to make it around the bend.
Overall I like this team. I think it's pretty sold other than TE2.
I don't feel super excited about it yet... Ronnie Brown situation would help things.
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I probably like this team the most out of those posting so far. I like your TE crew for where you got them. I see your only weakness maybe being RB2 as you have a stud(I dont) but your 2 is looking a little more iffy but I see how you looked at things and I would be happy with this type of draft out of your spot. Flacco is a guy to me that is underrated. I still dont see Matt Ryan as better despite how much higher he always gets drafted.
Pictus Cat
Footballguy
Reaper - What picks would you repick in retrospect? Who would you take instead?
Reaper
Footballguy
Hard to say... I haven't had a lot of time to look back and let this sink in yet.. You make a move at one point and lose out on another...So far, Tolbert over Ronnie Brown...At the 2/3 turn my TE tier was done, and my QB tier was done so, my plan was WR"s but, Bloom made out well with Michael Turner at that turn who I really had to think about - I just tried to stick to my guns and felt like In the RB market I could get value later on. Turner is a sweet #2 though.We all probably have to look back and see where/If we could have fit Deangelo Williams in - For me, it would have meant abandoning my QB plan at 4/5...Hmmm, maybe, that would probably net me a Colt McCoy type QB which would meanMcCoy/ Deangelo WilliamsOverCutler / Ryan GrantNot bad....And again, the Heap pick is not sitting well with me. I like the WR value late and my plan was to take 2 top WR's and then wait thinking the drop for the 24 round draft to this would mean a lot of WR"s to choose from late and that turned out for me to be Gaffney.
Evilgrin 72
Distributor of Pain
5.06 EvilGrin 72 - Matt Cassel, KCC, QB17
9.06 EvilGrin 72 - Christian Ponder, MIN, QB31
18.11 EvilGrin 72 - Ricky Stanzi, KCC, QB35
QB run was not something I expected to the extent that it went down. QB17 early in round 5 was shocking. Unfortunately, the only QB with upside left was on the same team as my RB1. I had to draft Stanzi in the last round in case Cassel gets hurt. I can't be 100% sure Ponder is going to be starting all season.
1.06 EvilGrin 72 - Jamaal Charles, KCC, RB5
2.11 EvilGrin 72 - Peyton Hillis, CLE, RB13
10.11 EvilGrin 72 - Bernard Scott, CIN, RB46
11.06 EvilGrin 72 - Benjarvus Green-Ellis, NEP, RB52
One position I like. My top 2 guys are probably both a little overvalued this year, but they should both fare well in PPR formats and I like them as much as any tandem. I think they caught 100+ balls between them last year. Scott is supposed to have a larger role and as far as I know, BJGE is still the 1s2/2nd down back in NE and represented huge value in the 11th.
3.06 EvilGrin 72 - Miles Austin, DAL, WR12
4.11 EvilGrin 72 - Brandon Lloyd, DEN, WR22
7.06 EvilGrin 72 - Mario Manningham, NYG WR32
14.11 EvilGrin 72 - Mark Clayton, STL, WR69
17.06 EvilGrin 72 - Golden Tate, SFF, WR82
We'll see. Austin should rebound huge if Romo stays healthy and with Dez drawing coverage on the other side. I like him to finish top 10 this year with top 5 upside if Bryant doesn't leech too many TDs. Lloyd is a bit of a gamble with the ? as to who the opening day QB is in Denver, but at WR22, he clearly provides the ability to outscore his draft slot. Manningham, I believe, will lead NYG is catches and yards this year. Clayton and Tate are fliers with upside. Clayton in particular, has a real chance to score for me and was a 0 risk pick at 14.11
6.11 EvilGrin 72 - Jermaine Gresham, CIN, TE14
8.11 EvilGrin 72 - Greg Olsen, CHI, TE22
Got timed out here and ended up with TE19 (I think) drafted in the TE14 spot. No one to blame but my own dumb ###.
13.06 EvilGrin 72 - Garret Hartley, NOS, PK4
16.11 EvilGrin 72 - Connor Barth, TBB, PK23
Above average, IMO.
12.11 EvilGrin 72 - Minnesota Vikings, DST12
15.06 EvilGrin 72 - Washington Redskins, DST30
Whatever.
9.06 EvilGrin 72 - Christian Ponder, MIN, QB31
18.11 EvilGrin 72 - Ricky Stanzi, KCC, QB35
QB run was not something I expected to the extent that it went down. QB17 early in round 5 was shocking. Unfortunately, the only QB with upside left was on the same team as my RB1. I had to draft Stanzi in the last round in case Cassel gets hurt. I can't be 100% sure Ponder is going to be starting all season.
1.06 EvilGrin 72 - Jamaal Charles, KCC, RB5
2.11 EvilGrin 72 - Peyton Hillis, CLE, RB13
10.11 EvilGrin 72 - Bernard Scott, CIN, RB46
11.06 EvilGrin 72 - Benjarvus Green-Ellis, NEP, RB52
One position I like. My top 2 guys are probably both a little overvalued this year, but they should both fare well in PPR formats and I like them as much as any tandem. I think they caught 100+ balls between them last year. Scott is supposed to have a larger role and as far as I know, BJGE is still the 1s2/2nd down back in NE and represented huge value in the 11th.
3.06 EvilGrin 72 - Miles Austin, DAL, WR12
4.11 EvilGrin 72 - Brandon Lloyd, DEN, WR22
7.06 EvilGrin 72 - Mario Manningham, NYG WR32
14.11 EvilGrin 72 - Mark Clayton, STL, WR69
17.06 EvilGrin 72 - Golden Tate, SFF, WR82
We'll see. Austin should rebound huge if Romo stays healthy and with Dez drawing coverage on the other side. I like him to finish top 10 this year with top 5 upside if Bryant doesn't leech too many TDs. Lloyd is a bit of a gamble with the ? as to who the opening day QB is in Denver, but at WR22, he clearly provides the ability to outscore his draft slot. Manningham, I believe, will lead NYG is catches and yards this year. Clayton and Tate are fliers with upside. Clayton in particular, has a real chance to score for me and was a 0 risk pick at 14.11
6.11 EvilGrin 72 - Jermaine Gresham, CIN, TE14
8.11 EvilGrin 72 - Greg Olsen, CHI, TE22
Got timed out here and ended up with TE19 (I think) drafted in the TE14 spot. No one to blame but my own dumb ###.
13.06 EvilGrin 72 - Garret Hartley, NOS, PK4
16.11 EvilGrin 72 - Connor Barth, TBB, PK23
Above average, IMO.
12.11 EvilGrin 72 - Minnesota Vikings, DST12
15.06 EvilGrin 72 - Washington Redskins, DST30
Whatever.
Bloom is always excellent about commenting on drafts, so here I am returning the favor.Picking from the 2 spot is nearly as hard as the 1st round turn. Have a long wait for second pick.
QB - I don't like this strategy. The Cowboys weren't pounding 40+ points per game, in fact, they exceeded 28 offensive points just three times last year. They drafted a strong running back, signalling perhaps a more balanced offense. There are three, maybe five strong receiving options on the Cowboys, but Bryant appears to have a maturity issue, maybe overblown by media, and Jones did have some durability issues. I drafted Romo in the PDSL, but am not so sure the team is strong enough to make a handcuff as the only qb2 appropriate. Nice QB1, but aside from the bye week deficit of 10 - 15 points, it gives no buffer for a week where the Cowboys falter as a team or the running game dominates. I don't know, Bloom is very smart, but this doesn't feel sharkish. 1/4th of Cowboys TDs were rushing last year, and I feel that will rise this year.
RB - Very strong, top two are fantastic players that get a lot of touches in the red zone. Foster obvious ppr strength, Turner not so much. Tolbert's role will be interesting to watch. Hardesty, hard to say, especially as Cleveland is incorporating a new offense and the lock out will affect Browns a lot. Turner's injury risk due to style and amount of use will be something to consider. He is one situation that may be worthwile handcuffing.
WR - I am not super excited by this. Collie has not been overly durable, Garcon, despite having little trust from Manning seems to get the nod, so many targets in that offense. Hard to pin him as a WR1. Green will suffer as all rookie WR will this year, in addition to the QB uncertainty in Cin, and the harmony of the Bengals seems really disruptive. Strong running game if Benson returns (can't believe I am saying that) will detract from short yardage/red zone opps. Jacoby Ford and Avery are potential home run WR3s but the Rams have a full pantry of WR, and Kendricks, Alexander, Amendola, SJax, etc. How many targets can he get? He was my favorite WR to watch in pre-season camp before his injury. Runs very hard on his frame, so will be interested to see how his rehab has gone. Edwards and Morgan have talent. Better depth than talent in this group.
TE - Graham is the TE honey, but so was Finley last year. While on the field will be very good, but have to see what effect the running game has on NO this year. Was hampered repeatedly last year, and with three or four starting caliber backs, you have to think that Brees will depend on his RB more this year. Ingram may be the short yardage/red zone mule. I hope Graham stays healthy and performs to potential. Seems like a quality person and player. Hernandez, also good, but Brady spreads it around, they also addressed the running game a bit, and Gronk is also fair as a receiving TE. This is a very strong TE group. I like it very well. It will be interesting to see whose TE2 drafted in the sixth, mine (Lewis) or Bloom's (Hernandez) ends up the better value.
K - same thing, I don't like strategizing a known deficit by underdrafting. Prater is solid, but I wonder if place kickers will avoid injury with more touchbacks or strain trying to drive out of the end zone on most kicks? Also, if they try to coffin corner it, the hang time will be less, so kick offs may become chaotic.
D - ok.
Overall, when all gears are turning, Bloom will do well, but he has taken out two teeth by design (QB and K) and his WR lack a true WR1. Green is rookie WR stud at biggest risk for lock out disruption in development.
Definitely far from ideal at QB - would have been a lot better strategy in the late first/early second with Rodgers or Peyton anchoring, but Romo has been extremely strong since Austin broke out in 2009, and Kitna only had one real down game last year - against GB when the whole team was draggin. Bradford and Cutler/Stafford at the 4/5 turn might have been a better strategy, but I was afraid that no one of Bradford's caliber would fall to the turn.If Turner had a clear handcuff like he did pre-draft, I would have taken him (Snelling), but I also really liked the value in Tolbert and Hardesty and wanted to spread out my byes.'RedZone said:
Collie was a top 10 WR easy before he got hurt, bordering on #1 overall. Im perfectly fine with his risk of injury because of the upside he presents at that draft position. Green might be hurt by the lockout, but his game is pretty instinctive and natural. I dont think you take a WR #4 to bring him along slowly, regardless of the amount of work he gets. Gruden will be installing a new offense anyway, so all the WRs will be equally inexperienced.
I expect Lewis to have more points than Hernandez on the year and more scoring level weeks, but with Graham as my #1, I am more interested in getting higher peaks than getting consistent production from my TE2. Hoping for 4-5 games where the Pats find that Hernandez is the key matchup to exploit and they feed him to the tune of 6-7+ catches.
I know the K strategy is also not ideal, but the scoring is depressed without distance bonuses and I just felt that getting a seventh WR who is liable to score or have a 10-15 point game from time to time was more likely to save my bacon than increasing the chances of getting that 4-8 points from my K assured most every week.
thanks for the feedback, not the exact draft I was envisioning, but I'll take it.
The only concern I would have about Collie, if he gets the starts over Garcon, is that defenses will adjust to him if he repeats his performances. When the D coordinators (who thankfully didn't have to worry about the RB out of the backfield) focus on Wayne and Clark, then Garcon/Collie get plenty of opportunities. However, as they respond to the presence of Collie, then Manning will revert back to Wayne, Clark, or whoever is getting open. Tamme allows for 2 TE sets this year, and they drafted a pretty decent rookie WR didn't they?
Just questions about his role as a WR1, also wonder if league policy on concussions and injury will make more difficult for a player to return to the field within a game or X number of weeks. So many questions.
Just questions about his role as a WR1, also wonder if league policy on concussions and injury will make more difficult for a player to return to the field within a game or X number of weeks. So many questions.
Stinkin Ref
IBL Representative
just wanted to comment real quick on the bolded part....Collie....your WR1 is coming off a year where he suffered 3 concussions....granted he may have been having a decent year up until he got hurt, but I would say he is actually more "risk" than "upside" at that draft postion (your WR1 WR23 overall/ 4th round)....and I would almost feel better about guys coming off of a different injury besides concussions......very easy to keep getting your head redinged and in today's NFL, even a small "redinging" could mean some substantial time out with the new concerns around concussions being highlighted.....I know many guys have gotten them (Rodgers, etc) but 3 in one year is a pattern and it may be easier for him to get more than most other players....add to that that some could argue he is maybe the 4th receiving option (Wayne/Garcon/Clark) and the fact that White and Tamme both proved that they can handle/deserve more time.....I think Collie as a #1 is more risk than upside....
I think I would give best team to Fro, followed by Fiddles.
2.10 Fullback Fro - Philip Rivers, SDC, QB6
7.07 Fullback Fro - Kevin Kolb, QB22
1.07 Fullback Fro - LeSean McCoy, PHI, RB6
3.07 Fullback Fro - Ryan Mathews, SDC, RB15
10.10 Fullback Fro - Reggie Bush, NOS, RB45
16.10 Fullback Fro - Rashard Jennings, JAX RB59
4.10 Fullback Fro - Steve Johnson, BUF, WR21
5.07 Fullback Fro - Percy Harvin, MIN, WR24
9.07 Fullback Fro - Santana Moss, WAS, WR42
11.07 Fullback Fro - Arrelious Benn, TBB, WR55
17.07 Fullback Fro - Ben Obomanu, SEA, WR83
18.10 Fullback Fro - Blair White, IND, WR92
6.10 Fullback Fro - Rob Gronkowski, NEP, TE13
8.10 Fullback Fro - Heath Miller, PIT, TE21
14.10 Fullback Fro - Adam Vinatieri,IND, PK10
15.07 Fullback Fro - Matt Bryant, ATL, PK14
12.10 Fullback Fro - Detroit Lions, DST11
13.07 Fullback Fro - Cincinnati Bengals, DST17
No glaring weakness and some nice strength. QBs and Ks are guaranteed players, unless Philly gets silly with demands or lockout goes until Labor Day.
2.10 Fullback Fro - Philip Rivers, SDC, QB6
7.07 Fullback Fro - Kevin Kolb, QB22
1.07 Fullback Fro - LeSean McCoy, PHI, RB6
3.07 Fullback Fro - Ryan Mathews, SDC, RB15
10.10 Fullback Fro - Reggie Bush, NOS, RB45
16.10 Fullback Fro - Rashard Jennings, JAX RB59
4.10 Fullback Fro - Steve Johnson, BUF, WR21
5.07 Fullback Fro - Percy Harvin, MIN, WR24
9.07 Fullback Fro - Santana Moss, WAS, WR42
11.07 Fullback Fro - Arrelious Benn, TBB, WR55
17.07 Fullback Fro - Ben Obomanu, SEA, WR83
18.10 Fullback Fro - Blair White, IND, WR92
6.10 Fullback Fro - Rob Gronkowski, NEP, TE13
8.10 Fullback Fro - Heath Miller, PIT, TE21
14.10 Fullback Fro - Adam Vinatieri,IND, PK10
15.07 Fullback Fro - Matt Bryant, ATL, PK14
12.10 Fullback Fro - Detroit Lions, DST11
13.07 Fullback Fro - Cincinnati Bengals, DST17
No glaring weakness and some nice strength. QBs and Ks are guaranteed players, unless Philly gets silly with demands or lockout goes until Labor Day.
I really dont see Kolb being traded because of as you said demands. Teams are going to want to give Matt Schuabb prices and Philly wants way more. Plus I dont see him as a QB that will lead you to the promise land. Hate the WR core also. Not as big on Steve JOhnson as most but lets say he is that good. Harvin is not a huge fantasy force and who is Minny QB. Moss is FA and who is Wash QB. Rest is guys I would not even looked at drafting myself. The last 2 I dont consider rosterable. If Kolb is not traded, than one bad QB week and bye bye. SD having bad week period could lead to end. NOt even close to one of my favourites. IN fact probably in the 2nd half for teams as I see it
