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***Official Pro Wrestling Thread*** (5 Viewers)

AEW World Heavyweight Title Match:
Jon Moxley (champion) vs. Eddie Kingston

AEW Tag Team Title Match (if Young Bucks don’t win, they can’t challenge for tag titles again, Tully Blanchard banned from ringside):
FTR (champions) vs. The Young Bucks

AEW World Heavyweight Title Tournament Finals (winner gets title shot):
Kenny Omega vs. Adam Page

Singles Match (If MJF wins, he joins Inner Circle):
Chris Jericho vs. MJF

AEW TNT Title Match:
Cody Rhodes (champion) vs. Darby Allin

AEW Women’s Title Match:
Hikaru Shida (champion) vs. Nyla Rose

Elite Deletion Match:
Matt Hardy vs. Sammy Guevara

Singles Match:
Orange Cassidy vs. John Silver

NWA Women’s Championship Match (Buy In Show):
Serena Deeb (champion) vs. Allysin Kay
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4/10  Woof.

 
Paige had a stalker show up at her door.  Her BF kicks the crap out of him and stalker is arrested.

“Scariest thing ever. He told us symbols led him to us. But Ronnie got him in a hold until police got there. Wtf is wrong with people... thank god Ronnie is around to protect our house. Jesus,” Paige said.

Radke shared photos of police arresting the man, alleging that the stalker “got his a** handed to him.”

“A stalker had the audacity to come to my door, got his ### handed to him until police arrived and saved the day. I will f**king kill you. Please don’t make me kill you,” he wrote.
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Can't you losers just jerk off to photos like we did as young men?  Geez.

 
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Tom Servo said:
AEW Tag Team Title Match (if Young Bucks don’t win, they can’t challenge for tag titles again, Tully Blanchard banned from ringside):
FTR (champions) vs. The Young Bucks
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Was this challenging FTR for the titles or any challenge for the titles? It's an interesting gimmick that AEW has used twice now, and for the better. Making The Elite unable to challenge for top belts helps storylines and keeps people from just expecting the guys running the place to get all the wins.

 
Bogart said:
Was this challenging FTR for the titles or any challenge for the titles? It's an interesting gimmick that AEW has used twice now, and for the better. Making The Elite unable to challenge for top belts helps storylines and keeps people from just expecting the guys running the place to get all the wins.
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It was forever, just like Cody.

 
Tom Servo said:
It was forever, just like Cody.
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I wonder what the long play is with The Bucks. Do they just know they don't want to ever have the belts, or do they have a swerve in mind? I still think Cody uses the "that was for Cody, NOW I'm Cody F###### Rhodes!!" card.

 
Bogart said:
I wonder what the long play is with The Bucks. Do they just know they don't want to ever have the belts, or do they have a swerve in mind? I still think Cody uses the "that was for Cody, NOW I'm Cody F###### Rhodes!!" card.
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Considering they won the belts on Saturday night, the stip was probably a way to juice the storyline up.

 
Tom Servo said:
The Montreal Screwjob is 23 today.

I did not know this:

Hart was told prior to the bout from Leon White (aka Vader) and Davey Boy Smith, both of whom had seen similar situations play out in Japan, to look out for a screwjob. Don't stay on the mat too long, kick out quickly, and don't get in a submission hold, they would tell him.
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I knew about Davey Boy Smith warning him, really like Leon saying something as well. The stories from Japan that guy must have had.

That said, still think it was the biggest work of all time. 3D Chess vs. Checkers.

 
WWE will have to leave the Amway Center on 11/24 so that it can be made ready for the Orlando Magic's season which starts in late December.

One of the buildings rumored to be the home of the new Thunderdome is @Capella's favorite place...Tropicana Field. :mellow:

 
Tom Servo said:
WWE will have to leave the Amway Center on 11/24 so that it can be made ready for the Orlando Magic's season which starts in late December.

One of the buildings rumored to be the home of the new Thunderdome is @Capella's favorite place...Tropicana Field. :mellow:
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Ironically the trop’s name used to be.....the thunderdome. Like 93-96 I think. 

 
Zelma Vega has been future endeavored. 

ETA: She tweeted before her release that she favored unionization. 

 
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Zelma Vega has been future endeavored. 

ETA: She tweeted before her release that she favored unionization. 
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🤣 Gee. Wonder why she was released. I do think she's gonna have a taller order to sustain her Twitch following w/o WWE. 

Aleister Black was done anyway after losing his old theme song but now he's gonna get buried or released in short order.

Edit: Apparently she has Onlyfans too. Maybe @DJackson10 can verify this while he's viewing Jesse Buckeye's Onlyfans page. (jk) 😂  i'm sure she's making a lot more outside WWE than in it right now (and likely substantially more). Question is is if she can sustain it.

 
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Wrestlevotes reporting Aleister Black recently requested to go back to NXT and was denied.

He was toast anyway going forward after losing his theme music. Easily one of the best in company 

 
bcdjr1 said:
Ryan Cabrera has dated like 3 different women while they did reality shows, and he’s a friend of the Miz on his reality show.

If Bliss announces that she’s returning for the next season of Total Divas, I call the relationship BS.
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Every Internet Wrestling Virgin in his basement: "so, you are saying there is a chance!!"

 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
🤣 Gee. Wonder why she was released. I do think she's gonna have a taller order to sustain her Twitch following w/o WWE. 

Aleister Black was done anyway after losing his old theme song but now he's gonna get buried or released in short order.

Edit: Apparently she has Onlyfans too. Maybe @DJackson10 can verify this while he's viewing Jesse Buckeye's Onlyfans page. (jk) 😂  i'm sure she's making a lot more outside WWE than in it right now (and likely substantially more). Question is is if she can sustain it.
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Vega was under a sudo name only fans account. WWE I think found out about it. The only stuff I know is from what Meltzer tweeted as it's been hard to confirm anything with anyone these days not going to shows and stuff. My one contact is triple and quadruple checking any and everything he gets now too. My former co-worker is now retired and just don't feel like calling him randomly and see if he has any scoops from his buddies. 

Anyway I did know that she made more from a OnlyFans account and twitch then WWE. Once her 90 days is up I expect her possible in AEW as they need more women and she's very solid in the ring. Her Husband Aliestar Black is not surprisingly UPSET with the whole ordeal and asked to be moved back to NXT. Hunter would like him back there and they could really do a huge program with Kross if they wanted too but Vince denied the request. My guess is we'll see Black being buried and embarrassed by WWE until his contract is up.

No one is happy in WWE about this and when I MEAN NOONE I MEAN NOONE. It's an absolute cesspool environment, depressing and a lot of talent are having second thoughts after having just extended their deals in WWE. WWE is taking money away from talent. I've been telling wrestlers who I personally know if you want to be happy with what you do and get paid try NJPW and AEW. heck at this rate IMPACT doesn't look so bad either. They've talked to friends in the business too and a lot of people are having 2nd thoughts on going to WWE. There's rumors swirling in WWE that  Vince has Lost his SH** at this point and just acting desperate. I've heard It described similar to Trump not conceding the election type thing (ironic since both are great friends) and no-one knows what To do nor who to go to. Hunter/Shane/Steph can only do too much I think they are trying to figure out the right way to go about things. Vince was obviously PO'd too because he knows he lost the Wednesday Night wars which was an utter failure. 

 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
Wrestlevotes reporting Aleister Black recently requested to go back to NXT and was denied.

He was toast anyway going forward after losing his theme music. Easily one of the best in company 
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Black requested that well before this happened. He's wanted to go back for awhile. Numerous talents have asked to be sent back to NXT. Balor took his mini vacation after SummerSlam last year because he said he wouldn't report to the main roster. But being one of Hunter's Guys he had more pull. 

 
bcdjr1 said:
Ryan Cabrera has dated like 3 different women while they did reality shows, and he’s a friend of the Miz on his reality show.

If Bliss announces that she’s returning for the next season of Total Divas, I call the relationship BS.
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Can't say you are wrong here. A lot of these relationships were put up for that show 

 
SO I was sent on a mini "vaca" that I didn't want but the big news beside Vega release is the fact AEW is teaming with THQ and the producer of No Mercy to create a AEW style Video game. It's in the early stages but it will have a No Mercy feel with a GM mode of sorts. They also announced some sort of AEW Casino Royale game on Mobile, A T-shirt of AEWGAMES and much more. Their presentation was incredible and had me laughing. Omega had the Steve Jobs look in the Movie Jobs with the speech he gives when announcing Apple. Omega was interrupted by Codi, Britt and Aubrey who all dressed similar in the JOBs style. For those who didn't see the presentation trust me you'll want to see this 

 
Jon Moxley announced on AEW that his Wife Renee Paquette is expecting. GOOD GOD ALMIGHTY HELP US ALL!!!!! JON MOXLEY IS BECOMING A FATHER!!!!!!!!

 
I already donated some money but if you guys are willing and want to this would be appreciated to myself and many other fans and people who have worked the arena or had a match there. 2300 Arena has been a huge part of my life since childhood. My friends dad use to take us to the ECW matches and I've seen several ROH matches here as well as NJPW's first time in Philly last year here. Even a couple $$ can go a long way to help here. I already tweeted Andrew Yang for some support even just a retweet given he's a huge Wrestling fan 

GoFundme Started to help save The ECW Arena AKA 2300 Arena in Philly on Samson Street. AKA Viking Hall ,lhambra Arena, The Arena, and Asylum Area. 

 
Dude I just Re-subbed to the Network JUST to watch Undertaker retire tonight. I've been subbed for literally 10 minutes and I already regret this.

I just watched New Day come out in some rainbow Halo looking bull#### robot gear, directly followed by these Street Profit guys yelling their way thru a 5 minute promo and having to actively educate me about the Undertaker's career.

This is so bad...

 
ShamrockPride said:
Dude I just Re-subbed to the Network JUST to watch Undertaker retire tonight. I've been subbed for literally 10 minutes and I already regret this.

I just watched New Day come out in some rainbow Halo looking bull#### robot gear, directly followed by these Street Profit guys yelling their way thru a 5 minute promo and having to actively educate me about the Undertaker's career.

This is so bad...
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####'s really unwatchable. 

I'll watch heel Roman and Fiend clips of these shows. That's the extent I can sit through. So much garbage. I'll read the results most weeks and it's just the same match after same match after same match.

Got about 15 minutes into the Austin/Taker Part 2 of the Broken Skull Session this AM. Looking forward to watching the rest of that. Only thing I watch on Network stuff is the older shows / interviews / some docs.

 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
####'s really unwatchable. 

I'll watch heel Roman and Fiend clips of these shows. That's the extent I can sit through. So much garbage. I'll read the results most weeks and it's just the same match after same match after same match.

Got about 15 minutes into the Austin/Taker Part 2 of the Broken Skull Session this AM. Looking forward to watching the rest of that. Only thing I watch on Network stuff is the older shows / interviews / some docs.
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Eh, I've liked the matches themselves up until the woman's Survivor Series match. It was right there to elevate Bianca Belair, someone who could legit be the face of the division down the road, to pay off that stupid Lana storyline. Literally,  no one cares about Lana right now.

Ridiculous. 

 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
####'s really unwatchable. 

I'll watch heel Roman and Fiend clips of these shows. That's the extent I can sit through. So much garbage. I'll read the results most weeks and it's just the same match after same match after same match.

Got about 15 minutes into the Austin/Taker Part 2 of the Broken Skull Session this AM. Looking forward to watching the rest of that. Only thing I watch on Network stuff is the older shows / interviews / some docs.
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I worked most of the show. I told a buddy to alert me when the Taker stuff starts. Only reason I have the network still is for NXT and NXTUK and old stuff. Current product is embarrassingly unwatchable 

 
Didn't see tonight but he's looked like death for awhile. I think he knows it and tries at all possible to stay off camera nowadays. Imagine he was on for Undertaker (?).

Greatest character in wrestling history. There's never going to be another. There's so few gimmicks in wrestling to begin with anymore. Big part of what's wrong with wrestling today. No characters. No stories. And waaaaaaay too oversaturated.

 
WWE tried to sign Ricky Starks...the day he was scheduled to wrestle Cody for the TNT championship. 
Starks said he listened, but he thought the timing was extremely suspicious. He doesn’t regret his decision to become All Elite.  

 
So I’m watching OVW TV on a satellite channel I didn’t know I had. It’s a highlight show. The host segments are a local level of cheesy bad.  
They did introduce a “National” title on this show, implying its to be defended across WWE’s developmental territories. 
interesting concept.  

 
One weird thing about last night’s Dynamite. In 30 year career of Chris Jericho and over 27 years of Christopher Daniels, they had never wrestled each other until last night! :shock:   I mean, it’s not like they didn’t have plenty of chances; they were just never put together in a program. 

 
Craig_MiamiFL said:
Didn't see tonight but he's looked like death for awhile. I think he knows it and tries at all possible to stay off camera nowadays. Imagine he was on for Undertaker (?).

Greatest character in wrestling history. There's never going to be another. There's so few gimmicks in wrestling to begin with anymore. Big part of what's wrong with wrestling today. No characters. No stories. And waaaaaaay too oversaturated.
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This. A great match tells a story.  Heck, go back and watch Hogan/Andre from WM3.  Not a great match by any stretch of the imagination, but the story it told was incredible and it's still a great watch.  

You can't expect another Hogan or Flair or Austin or Rock to show up because those guys are legends who were getting over sooner or later no matter what, but there has been no new star for a long time who is even close to being a legit legend on a level even close to those guys.  Aside from dragging out a tired Undertaker or another mostly-retired aging star like HHH, is there anyone currently on the roster whose name would make a casual fan want to watch?  The answer is no. 

 
Ghost Rider said:
Aside from dragging out a tired Undertaker or another mostly-retired aging star like HHH, is there anyone currently on the roster whose name would make a casual fan want to watch?  The answer is no. 
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Nope. Great comparison with Hogan/Andre. We'll never see that again with how oversaturated the product is. Today, we'd have seen Hogan-Andre matches 25 times (with no story of course).......in 2020 alone. Imagine 10-15 years from now...."OMG Kevin Owens has returned!!" :lmao: .

No one is sitting through hours of complete garbage to see MAYBE one good segment. Reigns is good as a heel but as you mentioned he's not mainstream. WWE doesn't want them to be. It's no different than what the UFC does..... emphasis on UFC brand over any individual by all means necessary.

AEW isnt any different. It's Jericho/MJF.......then a bunch of spot monkey wrestling trash and/or bunch of guys that aren't over. 

I don't know how one (if they even still watch), watches it any other way than clips. I really don't.

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I did watch the "undertaker farewell" at survivor series a day or two ago......and Jesus was it underwhelming. They bring his friends/legends out there. None of them say a word.....then poof they're gone :lmao:

Then you see Vince in the ring....and you realize a guy that truly looks ill is heading this disaster. I have to believe whoever did his brows was ribbing him. As bad and unplanned as all these shows are, I refuse to believe Vince was made to look like someone you'd see in a casket by design  You can tell this undertaker segment was just thrown together.

I get they'll likely have a future doc of this night with Taker. And it'll likely be well done.  But that survivor series segment was every bit as bad as these shows are.

Had to laugh at Taker's slights on today's product on the Austin podcast. He knows by and large today's stuff is horse manure.

 
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