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Tier 1

1.Adrian Peterson RB MIN AGE:26

http://www.nfl.com/players/adrianpeterson/profile?id=PET260705

This wasn't a very difficult choice in my opinion,Peterson has been a stud ever since he put on a vikings uniform and barring some horrible injury, I dont see anything changing. One thing to beware of though is last year when the Viking saw they were out of the hunt,Peterson saw a huge drop in touches toward the end of the year :

weeks 1-8 = 165 carries(20.65per)

weeks 9-17 = 118 carries(13.11per).

Not something you like to see if your contending for a championship.So, my only suggestion is if you think the Vikings are an imploding franchise(which im sure a lot of you do), sell high.

2.Chris Johnson RB TENN AGE:25

http://www.nfl.com/players/chrisjohnson/profile?id=JOH127799

Johnson has an amazing patience/speed combo that really cant be matched by anyone in the league. people considered him a bust last year but im not really sure that is warranted. his YPC took a big drop(5.6 to 4.3) but it seemed that had to do with the fact that the titans (other than britt for a few weeks) didn't really have much around him. The titans were not very subtle about the fact that they were trying to get johnson the ball and it showed in how the defenses schemed against the titans.I do like a bounce back season for johnson this year though. I really like the pick of Jamie harper for depth behind him. Hopefully harper can emerge as a grinder type that can take a few inside carries a game. As much as getting carries taken away is a sensitive subject nowadays, i dont think there is any type of RBBC coming to Tennessee anytime soon. I like Johnson to be a little fresher and bust a few more big runs if everything goes as planned. Johnson is still young and is one of the few studs that can make his situation rather than vise versa. This would definitely be a hold for me in all formats.

3.Jamaal Charles RB KC AGE:24

http://www.nfl.com/players/jamaalcharles/profile?id=CHA561428

I dont think there was any guy last year that did more with the touches they got. His amazing vision seems to guide him quickly through holes in the line , even if the play wasn't meant to go in that direction. If their were any questions about Charles coming into last season, they were answered emphatically. I still think Johnson is a little more talented but with a little luck charles could definitely give johnson a run for his money at any point. I realize most people hate the way todd haley uses Charles, but I really dont see it as that much of a negative. sure, he only got 275 touches,but do you really want a guy with charles build getting 350 touches a year? I would say 300 touches is more than enough for charles to put up fantastic numbers and stay fresh the entire year. Moral of the story is, hes 24, has an up and coming situation and ran for 6.4 freaking YPC last year...Hes one of the few studs thats still being undervalued(rather than overvalued) and can be had in most leagues for a reasonable price. Hes a Buy or a hold for me in any format.

Tier 2:

4.Darren McFadden RB OAK AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/DarrenMcFadden/profile?id=MCF084974

This guy is a MONSTER. The only guy with a better size/speed combo is Peterson. He can take it to the house at any point and can out run most corners. If he gets by the line hes just about unstoppable. The one concern for me is that the raiders fired tom cable at the end of last year and I know he was a big offensive line guru. They seemed to get a solid push for the most part but I have a feeling there might not be as many wide open holes as there were last year. The other concern is that he has proven to be a bit injury prone. The conclusion I came to with that info is that Mcfadden is setting up for a frank gore type of career path. He will miss a few games each year, but, while hes in there you know your going to get consistent, elite production, which is rare these days. Most people are still wary of buying into McFadden because of his first two years,so he can be had for more than a reasonable price in most leagues. Hes another buy/hold for the fact that he hasn't come close to his ceiling (production-wise).

5.Jonathan Stewart RB CAR AGE:24

http://www.nfl.com/players/JonathanStewart/profile?id=STE770966

I see Michael Turner Circa 2008 in Stewart. He has already had two impressive seasons, posting RB2 numbers as the second back in the offense.I think with Deangelo leaving, Stewart has a shot to take stud status and run with it, starting this year.

Tier 3

6.Arian Foster RB HOU AGE:24

http://www.nfl.com/players/ArianFoster/profile?id=FOS107404

The biggest surprise from last year for sure. Foster shocked just about all of us with his stellar fantasy numbers and surprising amount of talent. I realize some people look at this ranking and think im crazy(Stewart and McFadden over him), I would just like you to hear me out.

First, I do think Foster is a solid talent, Just not an elite one. This being the case and the way the NFL is going nowadays(committee),plus the fact they have something invested in Ben Tate,I think he has a much higher bust chance than the guys listed above.

The flip side of this is, if he stays injury free and keeps away from any type of trouble , he has a wonderful situation and could be an elite fantasy back for the next few years. I love him in redraft leagues, I would probably have him ranked second behind Peterson.

The moral of the story is that I like him and his situation(hence why i have him ranked six), but, the way I look at dynasties is that being an elite talent is just about the only way you have a chance to keep your workhorse job even after an injury or a slow start. Steve Slaton had an excellent Rookie year and was kicked to the curb after one year , So Houston already has a track record. Ride him as long as hes in charge in Houston, But, IMO you should temper your enthusiasm on his dynasty prospects.

7.Ray Rice RB BAL AGE:24

http://www.nfl.com/players/RayRice/profile?id=RIC154451

Ray Rice and Arian Foster go hand in hand to me. They both seemingly (barring injury) have a solid hold on the feature back role for there respective teams. I do like Rice a bit better from a talent stand point and I think he is a better overall player (running between tackles, catching out of the backfield blocking, etc). but, I think fosters situations is better from a fantasy perspective. It just seemed like the texans have so effectively ran the ball the past few years, that no matter who is out there he is going to put up solid numbers. Foster being a solid talent makes that a match made in heaven. The Ravens have a better overall team but it seems the run blocking is lacking a bit compared to the texans. I do like Rice more in PPR and would probably swap him and Stewart if this were based purely on that scoring system. Some people may say this is a little low of a ranking for him but this seems to be right where he belongs IMO. Although Rice ended the year with solid stats, he was very inconsistent from week to week , especially with the amount of carries and touches he was getting. I wouldn't put this on all on Rice, I think it mostly has to do with the Ravens run blocking and the fact that Joe Flacco has yet to put fear in opposing defenses eyes. There is good news for this year , which is that the ravens play the NFC west, This might even out some of the tough match ups like the steelers( lowers his value on these weeks quite a bit). I think Rice is a solid RB1 and is in no danger of losing his job. Knowing that also realize Rice may be a little inconsistent for where you have to draft him in a start up dynasty . Dont avoid him , but dont overpay either

8.Lesean Mccoy RB PHI AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=MCC620232

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=550877

9.Maurice Jones Drew RB JAC AGE:26

http://www.nfl.com/players/mauricejones-drew/profile?id=DRE527472

tier 4

10.C.J. Spiller RB BUFF AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/C.J.Spiller/profile?id=SPI347627

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=592915

I think spiller is an elite talent. Elite talents do not come along every year and im very hesitant to take an elite talent( that hasn't gotten a real shot yet) out of my top ten. His situation does look dim right now, but, I have faith that Spillers talent will overcome his situation eventually. It may not even be this year. But thats why these are dynasty rankings. In redraft he would probably be in the 20s somewhere because I think hes a big risk/reward guy. I think his ceiling is so sky high still that im willing to look past last year. Tough to keep him that high but tougher for me to drop him a significant amount on a 74 carry season against one of the toughest schedules in the league. My opinion is that this is a similar situation to Darren McFadden early on. People tossed him to the graveyard after one or two years because his numbers were horrible, completely ignoring that the guy was an elite prospect and a top five pick in the draft. Its not like the Bills are going give up on a top ten pick after one year. I have faith when he gets his opportunity he will flourish.

11.Steven Jackson RB STL AGE:27

http://www.nfl.com/players/StevenJackson/profile?id=JAC560875

First things first, Steven jackson is an elite player and the team leader of the St Louis Rams. He is the only guy to run for over a thousand yards in each of the last six years and in those six years he has had over thirty eight catches in all of them(38 catches in 12 games in 2007 and 40 catches in 12 games in 2008). The guy flat out produces no matter the situation and sometimes when he was the only talent on the offense. He has been through the rough times with the Rams and it seems Billy Devaney has finally gotten a solid offense around him. With emerging stud QB Sam Bradford and a much improved offensive line, I see potentially SJax's best season this year, even though he may be declining a bit in talent. He has a lot of miles on his legs, but I think with Spags at the helm and Bradford slinging passes there you can expect a few more solid Rb1 seasons from Jackson. Also, dont be surprised if he gets over 10 TDs this year, I have a feeling hes due. He's a very good goal line runner and hes had an unbelievable TD drought over the past few years. Nice, reliable guy to have on your roster if your competing for a championship this year in all formats.

12.Rashard Mendenhall RB PITT AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/RashardMendenhall/profile?id=MEN393702

13..Mark Ingram RB NO AGE:21

http://www.nfl.com/players/MarkIngram/profile?id=ING656964

14.Matt Forte RB CHI AGE:25

http://www.nfl.com/players/MattForte/profile?id=FOR645404

Tier 5

15.Ryan Mathews RB SD AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/ryanmathews/profile?id=MAT190010

16.Jahvid Best RB DET AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/jahvidbest/profile?id=BES682260

17.Frank Gore RB SF AGE:27

http://www.nfl.com/players/FrankGore/profile?id=GOR411171

18.Knowshon Moreno RB DEN AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/knowshonmoreno/profile?id=MOR120768

19.Deangelo Williams RB F/A AGE:28

http://www.nfl.com/players/deangelowilliams/profile?id=WIL221323

Tier 6

20.Felix Jones RB DAL AGE:24

http://www.nfl.com/players/felixjones/profile?id=JON313929

21.Mikel Leshoure RB DET AGE:21

http://www.nfl.com/players/mikelleshoure/profile?id=LES202930

22.Ryan Williams RB ARZ AGE:21

http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=WIL000004

23.Michael Turner RB ATL AGE:29

http://www.nfl.com/players/michaelturner/profile?id=TUR608668

24.Peyton Hillis RB CLE AGE:25

http://www.nfl.com/p...le?id=HIL734134

25.Ahmad Bradshaw RB NYG:25

http://www.nfl.com/players/AhmadBradshaw/profile?id=BRA254359

26.Chris Wells RB ARZ AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/BeanieWells/profile?id=WEL350689

I will admit, I have liked Beanie's talent ever since college(potentially a little biased) and im not quite sure what about him and his style has kept him from being effective thus far. His career is looking dim right now for Arizona, but, I still hold out complete faith that if this guy 'gets it' he has top 10 Dynasty Rb value. I first became enamored with him in his sophomore year at OSU.

http://espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=280070194

The dude went off on a very talented LSU defense as a true sophomore. I'm also a huge Big Ten guy(being a wisconsin fan) and the guy just ran people over when he was in there. I was happy to see him leave, But I was also very excited to see what he could do in the Pros. I realize a lot of people consider him soft and injury prone, but, I love his talent and think he is still young enough and has enough miles left on his legs to have a strong career. This has reminded of a Thomas Jones type of situation to me since the middle of last year. Just looks like this situation isn't going to work out for Wells. I've been wrong before and I'm sure I will be again, but I think Wells is going to have to find a new team and a fresh start before he emerges. Not saying its out of the question that he lays the hammer down this year, but seems unlikely from what has happend so far. The guy can be had right now (Darren Mcfadden style) for a more than reasonable price and if you are willing to wait a year or two (which most of us are not) hes a great guy to have as your RB3 or RB4.

Tier 7

27.Alex Green RB GB AGE:21

http://www.nfl.com/players/AlexGreen/profile?id=GRE037487

28.Daniel Thomas RB MIA AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/danielthomas/profile?id=THO092066

29Shonn Greene RB NYJ AGE:25

http://www.nfl.com/players/shonngreene/profile?id=GRE510029

30.LaGarrette Blount RB TB AGE:24

http://www.nfl.com/players/legarretteblount/profile?id=BLO626278

31.Shane Vereen RB NE AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/shanevereen/profile?id=VER287449

32.Marshawn Lynch RB SEA AGE:25

http://www.nfl.com/players/marshawnlynch/profile?id=LYN442976

33.James Starks RB GB AGE:

http://www.nfl.com/players/jamesstarks/profile?id=STA583786

Tier 8

34.Bilal Powell RB NYJ AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/bilalpowell/profile?id=POW162772

35.Roy Helu RB WAS AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/royhelu/profile?id=HEL697773

36.Joseph Addai IND AGE:28

http://www.nfl.com/players/josephaddai/profile?id=ADD152616

I think that Addai has a solid shot to have some redraft value this upcoming season and would definitely be moving up my board depending on how training camp works out. Addai is a very reliable blocker and has solid hands, which is always something teams look for in a running back. He also has the advantage of being in Peyton Manning's offense. I dont think he turned out to be as effective of a runner between the tackles as the colts envisioned selecting him in the first round, But, if he can emerge out of training camp and manage to fight off Donald Brown and Delone Carter i see him putting up solid stats. Being a RB in that offense almost promises a top 20 season for Addai if he stays healthy and I think he is being slightly undervalued right now because hes not flashy. If your looking for a guy thats Inexpensive and has the potential to be a solid RB2 the upcoming year, Addai would be a guy to take a look at.

37.Kendall Hunter RB SF AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/kendallhunter/profile?id=HUN719158

38.Montario Hardesty RB CLE AGE:24

http://www.nfl.com/players/montariohardesty/profile?id=HAR051743

39.Demarco Murray RB DAL AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/DeMarcoMurray/profile?id=MUR580353

40.Bernard Scott RB DAL AGE:

http://www.nfl.com/players/bernardscott/profile?id=SCO000000

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=592275

40.Jacquizz Rodgers RB ATL AGE:21

http://www.nfl.com/players/jacquizzrodgers/profile?id=ROD369979

41.Delone Carter RB IND AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/delonecarter/profile?id=CAR642622

42.Cedric Benson RB CIN AGE:28

http://www.nfl.com/players/cedricbenson/profile?id=BEN508718

Tier 9

43.Mike Goodson RB CAL AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/mikegoodson/profile?id=GOO579925

44.Ben Tate RB HOU AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/BenTate/profile?id=TAT137889

45.Jamie Harper RB AGE:21

http://www.nfl.com/players/jamieharper/profile?id=HAR263558

46.Stevan Ridley RB NE AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/stevanridley/profile?id=RID658759

47.Taiwan Jones RB OAK AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/taiwanjones/profile?id=JON731670

48.Allen Bradford RB TB AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/allenbradford/profile?id=BRA094086

The guy to get right now as a sneaky buy low. I realize Blount emerged last year,but, considering he was an undrafted pick up , I'm not sure they have a large amount of loyalty to keep him as a workhorse type of guy. Dont get me wrong either, I dont think Blount is Chopped liver. I fully expect him to take some of the load within the next few years.

Just from seeing what Bradford could do in college, It seems like to me he could potentially be an all purpose back at the next level. AT 5'11" 240 pounds, he seems to run faster than what would seem usual for the type of frame he has. Clocking a 4.59 40 is pretty solid for his playing style and it also seems like he may play a bit faster than that time tells. He was not asked to catch the ball at USC(15,00 other backs in the backfield), but , nothing I've seen from him tells me it isn't possible he could develop into a solid dump off guy. I'm not saying That hes going to emerge this year into a top 20 back, I just think Bradford has a shot to develop into a very solid NFL player and with given a good shot with the Bucs and that emerging offense, It could be a very solid combination for years to come. IMO a nice guy to monitor during training camp and have at the end of your bench just in case things fall his way. Who knows He could be one Blount injury and good preseason away from being the starting guy for TB this year.

49.Michael Bush RB OAK AGE:26

http://www.nfl.com/players/michaelbush/profile?id=BUS277873

50.Donald Brown RB IND AGE:24

http://www.nfl.com/players/donaldbrown/profile?id=BRO398445

51.Johnny White RB BUF AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/johnnywhite/profile?id=WHI311455

52.Ryan Torain RB WAS AGE:24

http://www.nfl.com/players/ryantorain/profile?id=TOR105154

Tier 10

52.Rashad Jennings RB JAC AGE:26

http://www.nfl.com/players/rashadjennings/profile?id=JEN587965

53.Ronnie Brown RB MIA AGE:29

http://www.nfl.com/players/ronniebrown/profile?id=BRO662745

54.Fred Jackson RB BUF AGE:30

http://www.nfl.com/players/fredjackson/profile?id=JAC173789

55.Tashard Choice RB DAL AGE:26

http://www.nfl.com/players/tashardchoice/profile?id=CHO431469

56. Jalene Parmele RB BAL AGE:25

http://www.nfl.com/players/jalenparmele/profile?id=PAR593998

57.Jordan Todman RB SD AGE:21

http://www.nfl.com/players/jordantodman/profile?id=TOD628353

58.Mike Tolbert RB SD AGE:25

http://www.nfl.com/players/miketolbert/profile?id=TOL160452

59.Reggie Bush RB NO AGE:26

http://www.nfl.com/players/reggiebush/profile?id=BUS294963

60.Tim Hightower RB ARZ AGE:24

http://www.nfl.com/players/timhightower/profile?id=HIG784208

Like thomas, The drafting of a running back early in the draft seems to kill all but any value Hightower had left. He can definitely find a spot on a NFL roster even if the Cardinals let him go, But , the chances hes ever fantasy relevant again seems slim to none.

61.Pierre Thomas RB NO AGE:26

http://www.nfl.com/players/pierrethomas/profile?id=THO085535

The drafting of Mark Ingram seems to just about seal Pierre's fate in New Orleans. He is a solid talent and if he lands somewhere nice he could be solid. Unfortunately, guys like this seem to be dime a dozen and most teams are not willing to pay much for them. HIs career seems to be going down a Back up RBBC type of route and I tend to stay away from guys that have limited future upside and limited redraft upside.

62.Ryan Grant RB GB AGE:28

http://www.nfl.com/players/ryangrant/profile?id=GRA497823

I've never really been a big grant fan and now that there are two other RBs competing for carries in GB , The future looks even more dim. I love the situation still and if injuries hit the corps he could still have value for redraft, but, he still has no long term value with the Packers and most likely will be nothing more than a desperate bye week filler this year.

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A few points.

1. Peterson's touches dipped because he was injured - even missing a game during that stretch. They are going to feed him the ball. He is as sure a bet for touches as there is.

2. If you are ranking Spiller #10, you must have watched a lot of Clemson football.

3. Stewart is simply too high. The love for this guy is strong.

4. Bradshaw and Hillis are low. What about watching their games prompted their rankings?

That said, thanks for the rankings. :thumbup:

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Now I've got two threads to discuss Dynasty Rankings in general that's a definite good thing since I don't have the time to do my own.

I'll get into them later, but I really like how you've decided to go about it

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Ryan Mathews not in the top 60?

woops! thats what happens when you dont doublecheck your work...ill fix it...i would be putting him in at 15 right in front of best

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Sell me on Spiller at 10.

The simple answer is I still think he is an elite talent. Elite talents do not come along every year and im very hesitant to take an elite talent out of my top ten. His situation does look dim right now, but, I have faith that Spillers talent will overcome his situation eventually. It may not even be this year. But thats why these are dynasty rankings. In redraft he would probably be in the 20s somewhere because i think hes a big risk/reward guy. But, I think his ceiling is so sky high still that im willing to look past last year. Tough to keep him that high but tougher for me to drop him a significant amount on a 74 carry season against one of the toughest schedules in the league. My opinion is that this is a similar situation to darren Mcfadden early on. People tossed him to the graveyard after one or two years because his numbers were horrible, completely ignoring that the guy was an elite prospect and a top 5 pick in the draft. Its not like the bills are going give up on a top ten pick after one year. I have faith when he gets his opportunity he will flourish.

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Amazing how Stewart still is considered a Tier above Foster and McCoy by many but I love it as people always overdraft him. Good work and I always enjoy how people rank.

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McFadden at #4 is gutsy. Last year was very impressive, and his upside is huge, but he has a lot of downside as well.

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Baffaling how high you have the rookies.

i dont think its crazy to have one rookie(with a solid situation) to be in the top 19
Ingram, Williams, and Thomas are fine. But Leshoure, Green, Powell, Helu, Hunter, Carter, White, Todman, Jones, Ridley, and Harper aren't.

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Baffaling how high you have the rookies.

i dont think its crazy to have one rookie(with a solid situation) to be in the top 19
Ingram, Williams, and Thomas are fine. But Leshoure, Green, Powell, Helu, Hunter, Carter, White, Todman, Jones, Ridley, and Harper aren't.
LOL...your throwing subjective opinions around like they are facts...how in the world do you know yet if they are worthy or not of the spots I put them in? I think your still angry about greg little :excited:

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A few points.1. Peterson's touches dipped because he was injured - even missing a game during that stretch. They are going to feed him the ball. He is as sure a bet for touches as there is.2. If you are ranking Spiller #10, you must have watched a lot of Clemson football.3. Stewart is simply too high. The love for this guy is strong. 4. Bradshaw and Hillis are low. What about watching their games prompted their rankings?That said, thanks for the rankings. :thumbup:

1.If thats the reason for peterson's drop in touches then thats a solid bit of info, thanks3.I may be wrong, But I see Michael Turner Circa 2008 in Stewart.He has already had two impressive seasons, posting RB2 numbers as the second back in the offense.I think with Deangelo leaving ,Stewart has a shot to take stud status and run with it, starting this year.4. Your right, nothing I've watched has made me move these guys down to the spots they are. Its more the rumblings that the giants are not going to resign Bradshaw and that the Browns are looking to make their RB situation into a committee(with Hardesty). If these guys become feature backs somehow, then I am more than willing to move them up.

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What is your reason behind the Spiller and Stewart rankings?

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What is your reason behind the Spiller and Stewart rankings?

Posts #11 and #16.

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A few points.

1. Peterson's touches dipped because he was injured - even missing a game during that stretch. They are going to feed him the ball. He is as sure a bet for touches as there is.

2. If you are ranking Spiller #10, you must have watched a lot of Clemson football.

3. Stewart is simply too high. The love for this guy is strong.

4. Bradshaw and Hillis are low. What about watching their games prompted their rankings?

That said, thanks for the rankings. :thumbup:

1.If thats the reason for peterson's drop in touches then thats a solid bit of info, thanks

3.I may be wrong, But I see Michael Turner Circa 2008 in Stewart.He has already had two impressive seasons, posting RB2 numbers as the second back in the offense.I think with Deangelo leaving ,Stewart has a shot to take stud status and run with it, starting this year.

4. Your right, nothing I've watched has made me move these guys down to the spots they are. Its more the rumblings that the giants are not going to resign Bradshaw and that the Browns are looking to make their RB situation into a committee(with Hardesty). If these guys become feature backs somehow, then I am more than willing to move them up.

What rumblings. I live in the area and the rumblings are the complete opposite. Every indication is that the Giantas want Bradshaw back and he wants to come back. I'd say there's little chance that it doesn't work out - the team waited until Round 7 to draft a practice squad type back, further indicating that they plan to resign Bradshaw.

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A few points.

1. Peterson's touches dipped because he was injured - even missing a game during that stretch. They are going to feed him the ball. He is as sure a bet for touches as there is.

2. If you are ranking Spiller #10, you must have watched a lot of Clemson football.

3. Stewart is simply too high. The love for this guy is strong.

4. Bradshaw and Hillis are low. What about watching their games prompted their rankings?

That said, thanks for the rankings. :thumbup:

1.If thats the reason for peterson's drop in touches then thats a solid bit of info, thanks

3.I may be wrong, But I see Michael Turner Circa 2008 in Stewart.He has already had two impressive seasons, posting RB2 numbers as the second back in the offense.I think with Deangelo leaving ,Stewart has a shot to take stud status and run with it, starting this year.

4. Your right, nothing I've watched has made me move these guys down to the spots they are. Its more the rumblings that the giants are not going to resign Bradshaw and that the Browns are looking to make their RB situation into a committee(with Hardesty). If these guys become feature backs somehow, then I am more than willing to move them up.

What rumblings. I live in the area and the rumblings are the complete opposite. Every indication is that the Giantas want Bradshaw back and he wants to come back. I'd say there's little chance that it doesn't work out - the team waited until Round 7 to draft a practice squad type back, further indicating that they plan to resign Bradshaw.
I've read on a few threads in here that his status in new york was uncertain...if thats not the case then thats a good thing to know. Do you have any links or articles proving this?

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A few points.

1. Peterson's touches dipped because he was injured - even missing a game during that stretch. They are going to feed him the ball. He is as sure a bet for touches as there is.

2. If you are ranking Spiller #10, you must have watched a lot of Clemson football.

3. Stewart is simply too high. The love for this guy is strong.

4. Bradshaw and Hillis are low. What about watching their games prompted their rankings?

That said, thanks for the rankings. :thumbup:

1.If thats the reason for peterson's drop in touches then thats a solid bit of info, thanks

3.I may be wrong, But I see Michael Turner Circa 2008 in Stewart.He has already had two impressive seasons, posting RB2 numbers as the second back in the offense.I think with Deangelo leaving ,Stewart has a shot to take stud status and run with it, starting this year.

4. Your right, nothing I've watched has made me move these guys down to the spots they are. Its more the rumblings that the giants are not going to resign Bradshaw and that the Browns are looking to make their RB situation into a committee(with Hardesty). If these guys become feature backs somehow, then I am more than willing to move them up.

What rumblings. I live in the area and the rumblings are the complete opposite. Every indication is that the Giantas want Bradshaw back and he wants to come back. I'd say there's little chance that it doesn't work out - the team waited until Round 7 to draft a practice squad type back, further indicating that they plan to resign Bradshaw.
I've read on a few threads in here that his status in new york was uncertain...if thats not the case then thats a good thing to know. Do you have any links or articles proving this?
It's uncertain because there's no CBA- we don't know if he's going to be restricted or unrestricted, they can't negotiate with him now, etc. The prevailing thought is that he'll be back however, and the fact that the Giants didn't select a RB until the 7th round tells me that they fully plan on re-signing him.

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A few points.

1. Peterson's touches dipped because he was injured - even missing a game during that stretch. They are going to feed him the ball. He is as sure a bet for touches as there is.

2. If you are ranking Spiller #10, you must have watched a lot of Clemson football.

3. Stewart is simply too high. The love for this guy is strong.

4. Bradshaw and Hillis are low. What about watching their games prompted their rankings?

That said, thanks for the rankings. :thumbup:

1.If thats the reason for peterson's drop in touches then thats a solid bit of info, thanks

3.I may be wrong, But I see Michael Turner Circa 2008 in Stewart.He has already had two impressive seasons, posting RB2 numbers as the second back in the offense.I think with Deangelo leaving ,Stewart has a shot to take stud status and run with it, starting this year.

4. Your right, nothing I've watched has made me move these guys down to the spots they are. Its more the rumblings that the giants are not going to resign Bradshaw and that the Browns are looking to make their RB situation into a committee(with Hardesty). If these guys become feature backs somehow, then I am more than willing to move them up.

What rumblings. I live in the area and the rumblings are the complete opposite. Every indication is that the Giantas want Bradshaw back and he wants to come back. I'd say there's little chance that it doesn't work out - the team waited until Round 7 to draft a practice squad type back, further indicating that they plan to resign Bradshaw.
I've read on a few threads in here that his status in new york was uncertain...if thats not the case then thats a good thing to know. Do you have any links or articles proving this?
Alot of crazy stuff is said on these boards.

I'm not going to go back and provide links (some stuff was in the local papers), you can do that yourself if interested. Not trying to be a jerk about it, but you could just as easily do an internet search as I can and we both made "unsupported" statements, but I know mine is true.

I'm was just letting you know that those "rumblings" are not what the local buzz is. Take it for what its worth.

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Tier 1

1. Calvin Johnson WR DET AGE:25

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Tier 2

2.Larry Fitzgerald WR ARI AGE:27

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3.Andre Johnson WR HOU AGE:29

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Tier 3

4. Greg Jennings WR GB AGE:27

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5. Roddy White WR ATL AGE:29

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6. Hakeem Nicks WR NYG AGE:23

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7. Mike Wallace WR PITT AGE:24

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Tier 4

8. Dez Bryant WR DAL AGE:22

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9. AJ Green WR CIN AGE:22

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11. Julio Jones WR ATL AGE:22

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12. Dwayne Bowe WR KC AGE:26

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Tier 5

13. Brandon Marshall WR MIA AGE:27

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14. Kenny Britt WR TEN AGE:22

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15. Miles Austin WR DAL AGE:26

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Tier 6

16. Jeremy Maclin WR PHI AGE:23

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17. Reggie Wayne WR IND AGE:32

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18. Sidney Rice WR MIN AGE:24

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20. Greg Little WR CLE AGE:21

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21. Santonio Holmes NYJ AGE:27

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22. Michael Crabtree WR SF AGE:23

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23. Percy Harvin WR MIN AGE:22

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Tier 7

24. Marques Colston WR NO AGE:27

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25. Mike Williams WR TB AGE:23

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27. Steve Johnson WR BUFF AGE:24

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28. Arrelious Benn WR TB AGE:22

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Tier 8

29. Steve Smith WR CAR AGE:31

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30. Demaryius Thomas WR DEN AGE:23

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31. Jonathan Baldwin WR KC AGE:21

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32. Austin Collie WR IND AGE:25

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33. Wes Welker WR NE AGE:30

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34. Steve Smith WR NYG AGE:26

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Tier 9

35. Braylon Edwards WR NYJ AGE:28

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36. Mike Thomas WR JAC AGE:23

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37. Johnny Knox WR CHI AGE:24

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38. Anquan Boldin WR BAL AGE:30

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39. Donnie Avery WR STL AGE:26

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40. Greg Salas WR STL AGE:22

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41. Randall Cobb WR GB AGE:20

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42. Torrey Smith WR BAL AGE:22

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Tier 10

43. Pierre Garcon WR IND AGE:24

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44. Leonard Hankerson WR WAS AGE:23

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45. Denario Alexander WR STL AGE:22

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46. Titus Young WR DET AGE:21

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47. Vincent Brown WR SD AGE:22

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Tier 11

48. Mario Manningham WR NYG AGE:24

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49. Malcom Floyd WR SD AGE:29

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50. Edmund Gates WR MIA AGE:24

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51. Josh Cribbs WR CLE AGE:27

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52. Brandon Lafell WR CAR AGE:24

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53. Emmanuel Sanders WR PITT AGE:24

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54. Steve Breaston WR ARI AGE:27

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55. Jacoby Ford WR OAK AGE:23

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56. Jerome simpson WR CIN AGE:25

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Tier 12

57. Dexter McCluster WR KC AGE:22

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59. MIke Sims-Walker WR JAX AGE:26

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Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

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Really excellent, excellent work. I disagree with much of it, but you are thinking for yourself. Something that's still surprisingly lacking given how saturated the FF analysis game is these days.

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Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him. It's just that I think Benn is better talent, So my dynasty rankings Reflect the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If I'm wrong,I'm wrong, but, from watching what I saw, its at least worth a shot to go with my own opinion.

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Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him lol....its just that I think Benn is better talent... So my dynasty rankings show the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If im wrong,im wrong...but from watching what i saw...its at least worth a shot
What came first, the chicken or the egg?I bet if someone offered you Tampa Mike for Benn straight up you'd insta-accept with glee.

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Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him lol....its just that I think Benn is better talent... So my dynasty rankings show the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If im wrong,im wrong...but from watching what i saw...its at least worth a shot
What came first, the chicken or the egg?I bet if someone offered you Tampa Mike for Benn straight up you'd insta-accept with glee.
That wouldn't necessarily mean that he doesn't like Benn better personally though. TB Mike has much more trade value and he could always flip him for much better value and then get Benn back cheaply.I actually agree with wisc to some extent. While it's hard to argue that Benn will be the better player right now, I do think they are a lot closer in talent than most think after their respective rookie seasons. If Benn recovers in time for the season I think their numbers will end up being fairly close by season's end.

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You only rank Jennings and Cobb from GB?

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Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him lol....its just that I think Benn is better talent... So my dynasty rankings show the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If im wrong,im wrong...but from watching what i saw...its at least worth a shot
What came first, the chicken or the egg?I bet if someone offered you Tampa Mike for Benn straight up you'd insta-accept with glee.
That wouldn't necessarily mean that he doesn't like Benn better personally though. TB Mike has much more trade value and he could always flip him for much better value and then get Benn back cheaply.I actually agree with wisc to some extent. While it's hard to argue that Benn will be the better player right now, I do think they are a lot closer in talent than most think after their respective rookie seasons. If Benn recovers in time for the season I think their numbers will end up being fairly close by season's end.
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Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him lol....its just that I think Benn is better talent... So my dynasty rankings show the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If im wrong,im wrong...but from watching what i saw...its at least worth a shot
What came first, the chicken or the egg?

I bet if someone offered you Tampa Mike for Benn straight up you'd insta-accept with glee.

That wouldn't necessarily mean that he doesn't like Benn better personally though. TB Mike has much more trade value and he could always flip him for much better value and then get Benn back cheaply.

I actually agree with wisc to some extent. While it's hard to argue that Benn will be the better player right now, I do think they are a lot closer in talent than most think after their respective rookie seasons. If Benn recovers in time for the season I think their numbers will end up being fairly close by season's end.

Bingo
Kind of flawed logic though. If Team A is paying good Mike Williams for Benn then they either are really down on Williams or really high on Benn or both. Mostly likely value Benn higher than his market value. It's all hypothetical, but it seems relatively very low chance you buy Benn back, unless you mean in a separate league. If you think Benn's upside is top 20 instead of top 10, it doesn't matter. But if you think Benn's upside is top 10, it makes it cloudier.

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Really excellent, excellent work. I disagree with much of it, but you are thinking for yourself. Something that's still surprisingly lacking given how saturated the FF analysis game is these days.

This!!! This is exactly my point and thank you. :thumbup: You can disagree with every ranking and I'm totally ok with that. If anyone gives a good enough reason as to why a guy should be moved up or down then I would be fine with moving them accordingly. I dont claim to know everything and I'm sure I probably have some false reasoning in there somewhere. If any of you catch something like that then dont hold back. Perfect example is the Ahmad Bradshaw post, That is great stuff to know.

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Nice work. It's always interesting to see people's dynasty rankings. :thumbup:

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Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him lol....its just that I think Benn is better talent... So my dynasty rankings show the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If im wrong,im wrong...but from watching what i saw...its at least worth a shot
What came first, the chicken or the egg?I bet if someone offered you Tampa Mike for Benn straight up you'd insta-accept with glee.
That wouldn't necessarily mean that he doesn't like Benn better personally though. TB Mike has much more trade value and he could always flip him for much better value and then get Benn back cheaply.I actually agree with wisc to some extent. While it's hard to argue that Benn will be the better player right now, I do think they are a lot closer in talent than most think after their respective rookie seasons. If Benn recovers in time for the season I think their numbers will end up being fairly close by season's end.
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So you admit that that you'd instaclick accept on that trade?

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Nice work man!

I would probably swap most players in tier 6 with tier 4 in the wr rankings.

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Stuck to your guns with your hate for Tampa Mike, I will give you credit for that. What did you see from his film that you disliked? Maybe it's the name you dislike because Big Mike Williams is pretty low too.

I dont hate him lol....its just that I think Benn is better talent... So my dynasty rankings show the fact that I like Benn more than Williams. If im wrong,im wrong...but from watching what i saw...its at least worth a shot
What came first, the chicken or the egg?I bet if someone offered you Tampa Mike for Benn straight up you'd insta-accept with glee.
That wouldn't necessarily mean that he doesn't like Benn better personally though. TB Mike has much more trade value and he could always flip him for much better value and then get Benn back cheaply.I actually agree with wisc to some extent. While it's hard to argue that Benn will be the better player right now, I do think they are a lot closer in talent than most think after their respective rookie seasons. If Benn recovers in time for the season I think their numbers will end up being fairly close by season's end.
Bingo
So you admit that that you'd instaclick accept on that trade?
I do admit that...but, the point is I would go after Benn this offseason and get him for less than half the price. For redraft I definitely agree that williams is the better selection, But, long term I gotta go with Benn. I still have Williams Ranked ahead of him based on his value to a team for the upcoming year. Also, if Benn doesn't emerge or he busts in general, then Williams value will go up quite a bit. WIth Freeman and nobody to compete with for targets he could be a low end WR1 for years to come.

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Tier 1:

1. Jermichael Finley TE GB AGE:24

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2.Vernon Davis TE SF AGE:27

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3.Antonio Gates TE SD AGE:30

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4.Dallas Clark TE IND AGE:31

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5. Jason Witten TE DAL AGE:29

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Tier 2:

6. Jimmy Graham TE NO AGE:24

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7.Jermaine Gresham TE CIN AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/jermainegresham/profile?id=GRE819895

8.Marcedes Lewis TE JAX AGE:27

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Tier 3:

9.Zach Miller TE OAK AGE:25

http://www.nfl.com/players/zachmiller/profile?id=MIL625718

10. Rob Gronkowsk TE NE AGE:22

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11.Owen Daniels TE HOU AGE:28

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12.Chris Cooley TE WSH AGE:28

http://www.nfl.com/players/owendaniels/profile?id=DAN576298

13.Brandon Pettigrew TE DET AGE:26

http://www.nfl.com/players/brandonpettigrew/profile?id=PET710823

Tier 4:

14.Lance Kendricks TE STL AGE:23

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15. Kellen Winslow TE TB AGE:27

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16. Aaron Hernandez TE NE AGE:21

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17. Dustin Keller TE NYJ AGE:26

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18. Greg Olsen TE CHI AGE:26

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19.Brent Celek TE PHI AGE:26

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20. Tony Gonzalez TE ATL AGE:35

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Tier 5:

21. Jared Cook TE TEN AGE:24

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22.Jordan Cameron TE CLE AGE:22

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23.Kyle Rudolph TE MIN AGE:21

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24.John Carlson TE SEA AGE:27

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25.Tont Moeaki TE KC AGE:23

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26.Heath Miller TE PIT AGE:28

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Tier 6:

27. Visante Shiancoe TE MIN AGE:30

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28. Jeremy Shockey TE NO AGE:30

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29.Travis Beckum TE NYG AGE: 24

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30.DJ Williams TE GB AGE:22

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31.Fred Davis TE WSH AGE:25

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32.Todd Heap TE BAL AGE:31

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33 Anthony Fasano TE MIA AGE:27

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34.Robert Housler TE ARI AGE:23

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35.Ben Watson TE CLE AGE:30

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Tier 7:

36.Ed Dickson TE BAL AGE:23

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37.Virgil Green TE DEN AGE:22

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38.Julius Thomas TE DEN AGE:22

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39.James Casey TE HOU AGE:26

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40.Kevin Boss TE NYG AGE:27

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41.Tony Scheffler TE DET AGE:28

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42.Delanie Walker TE SF AGE:26

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Nice job on the rankings OP. A couple thoughts....

1. I would probably sacrifice one of the DAL/GB/NO/BUF or SD running backs to get Turner's back up and/or third down back on the list.

2. If Danario Alexander is healthy at camp time? he needs to be on the list of WRs, maybe as high if not higher than Avery/Salas.

3. A year removed from his injury, Owen Daniels could probably flip spots with M.Lewis; and I'd put Jared Cook somewhere near the top of tier 4.

Keep up the good work.

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Nice job on the rankings OP. A couple thoughts....1. I would probably sacrifice one of the DAL/GB/NO/BUF or SD running backs to get Turner's back up and/or third down back on the list.2. If Danario Alexander is healthy at camp time? he needs to be on the list of WRs, maybe as high if not higher than Avery/Salas.3. A year removed from his injury, Owen Daniels could probably flip spots with M.Lewis; and I'd put Jared Cook somewhere near the top of tier 4.Keep up the good work.

1.Good call on cook, I knew I forgot somebody in that range. I remember being impressed when I caught a live Titans game last year. But, I'm a little skeptical of the situation hes in. Definitely has the talent to make noise this year, does he get the opportunity? 21 seems like the right spot for him in my mind , right in front of Jodan Cameron and Kyle Rudolph(who I consider to have similar situations and skill level)2. As a Rams fan I'm embarrassed I missed this one. He seemed to work well with Bradford when he was in there, playing very well as the role of big target/deep threat. When the Rams went Kendricks over Greg Little in the second round I was extremely shocked at first and a little upset. But, when I really thought about it, its more encouraging than discouraging. This could mean a couple different things to me, all of them pointing to The Rams organization perceiving there passing game as a non weakness in general. Potential senarios:1. They are happy with what they have at WR. The drafting of Salas and Pettis tells me they are looking for a solid NO.2 WR to go alongside Avery or Alexander. Which guy is it? I'm not completely sure. It could go either way but im leaning towards avery as having a higher probability at this point. 2. They are so high on bradford they think he can do well regardless of who they throw out there. If this is the case, I would be a bit higher on Salas and Amendola to have some solid PPR games. This could end up like the New orleans situation real quick if no guy emerges.All things seem positive offensively as a whole for the Rams , But WR as a fantasy whole, is a very cloudy situation. Training camp would be extremely interesting and helpful to figure this group out, unfortunately that may not even happen :angry:3. Yea, Rodgers needs to be on the list as well. I'll put him in there in the 30s-40s range when I get a chance.

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Tier 1

1. Aaron Rodgers QB GB AGE:27

http://www.nfl.com/players/aaronrodgers/profile?id=ROD339293

Tier 2

2. Phillip Rivers QB SD AGE:29

http://www.nfl.com/players/philiprivers/profile?id=RIV651634

Tier 3

3. Tom Brady QB NE AGE:33

http://www.nfl.com/players/tombrady/profile?id=BRA371156

4. Peyton Manning QB IND AGE: 35

http://www.nfl.com/players/peytonmanning/profile?id=MAN515097

5. Michael Vick QB PHI AGE:30

http://www.nfl.com/players/michaelvick/profile?id=VIC311467

6. Drew Brees QB NO AGE:32

http://www.nfl.com/players/drewbrees/profile?id=BRE229498

Tier 4

7. Sam Bradford QB STL AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/sambradford/profile?id=BRA101548

8. Matt Ryan QB ATL AGE:26

http://www.nfl.com/players/mattryan/profile?id=RYA238179

9. Ben Roethlisberger QB PIT AGE:29

http://www.nfl.com/players/benroethlisberger/profile?id=ROE750381

10. Tony Romo QB DAL AGE:31

http://www.nfl.com/players/tonyromo/profile?id=ROM787981

11. Josh Freeman QB TB AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/joshfreeman/profile?id=FRE183259

Tier 5

12. Joe Flacco QB BAL AGE:26

http://www.nfl.com/players/joeflacco/profile?id=FLA009602

13. Eli Manning QB NYG AGE:30

http://www.nfl.com/players/elimanning/profile?id=MAN473170

14. Matt Schaub QB HOU AGE:29

http://www.nfl.com/players/mattschaub/profile?id=SCH085186

15. Jay Cutler QB CHI AGE:28

http://www.nfl.com/players/jaycutler/profile?id=CUT288111

16. Matthew Stafford QB DET AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/matthewstafford/profile?id=STA134157

Tier 6

17. Cam Newton QB CAR AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/camnewton/profile?id=NEW693984

18. Blaine Gabbert QB JAX AGE:21

http://www.nfl.com/players/blainegabbert/profile?id=GAB221145

19. Mark Sanchez QB NYJ AGE:24

http://www.nfl.com/players/marksanchez/profile?id=SAN091667

20.Kevin Kolb QB PHI AGE:26

http://www.nfl.com/players/kevinkolb/profile?id=KOL105037

21. Matt Cassel QB KC AGE:29

http://www.nfl.com/players/mattcassel/profile?id=CAS541133

22. Tim Tebow QB DEN AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/timtebow/profile?id=TEB603856

23. Kyle Orton QB DEN AGE:28

http://www.nfl.com/players/kyleorton/profile?id=ORT716150

Tier 7

24.Colt McCoy QB CLE AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/coltmccoy/profile?id=MCC603149

25. Colin Kaepernick QB SF AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/colinkaepernick/profile?id=KAE371576

26. Jake Locker QB TEN AGE:22

http://www.nfl.com/players/jakelocker/profile?id=LOC066933

27. Andy Dalton QB CIN AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/andydalton/profile?id=DAL659900

28. Christian Ponder QB MIN AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/christianponder/profile?id=PON404041

29. Ryan Fitzpatrick QB BUFF AGE:28

http://www.nfl.com/players/ryanfitzpatrick/profile?id=FIT792915

Tier 8

30. Carson Palmer QB CIN AGE:31

http://www.nfl.com/players/carsonpalmer/profile?id=PAL249055

31. Chad Henne QB MIA AGE:25

http://www.nfl.com/players/chadhenne/profile?id=HEN507580

32. Alex Smith QB SF AGE:27

http://www.nfl.com/players/alexsmith/profile?id=SMI031126

33. Jason Campbell QB OAK AGE:29

http://www.nfl.com/players/jasoncampbell/profile?id=CAM375235

34. Matt Hasselbeck QB SEA AGE:35

http://www.nfl.com/players/matthasselbeck/profile?id=HAS536799

35. David Garrard QB JAX AGE:33

http://www.nfl.com/players/davidgarrard/profile?id=GAR371604

36. Donvovan McNabb QB WASH AGE:34

http://www.nfl.com/players/donovanmcnabb/profile?id=MCN017517

Tier 9

37. Jimmy Clausen QB CAR AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/jimmyclausen/profile?id=CLA709185

38. Charlie Whitehurst QB SEA AGE:28

http://www.nfl.com/players/charliewhitehurst/profile?id=WHI646241

39. Bruce Gradkowski QB OAK AGE:28

http://www.nfl.com/players/brucegradkowski/profile?id=GRA068015

40. Shaun Hill QB DET AGE:31

http://www.nfl.com/players/shaunhill/profile?id=HIL586565

41. John Beck QB WASH AGE:29

http://www.nfl.com/players/johnbeck/profile?id=BEC177695

42. Greg McElroy QB NYJ AGE:23

http://www.nfl.com/players/gregmcelroy/profile?id=MCE147449

43. John Kitna QB DAL AGE:38

http://www.nfl.com/players/jonkitna/profile?id=KIT155733

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Nice job with the Qb rankings. :thumbup:

Romo and Fitzpatrick are low and Vick, Freeman are too high, but thats all i really see.

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Nice job with the Qb rankings. :thumbup: Romo and Fitzpatrick are low and Vick, Freeman are too high, but thats all i really see.

Thanks man, all I gotta say is, we shall see sir :football: ...lol

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Guys on the rise since the last RB rankings:

Felix Jones- All reports have been that Felix is back to his old, quicker self. All the talent and the essentially a feature role to himself. If he can stay healthy I like him this year and in the future.

Beanie Wells- The reason for the bump dynasty-wise is that now he has a shot to prove himself this year. With Ryan Williams out of the way, There is no more excuses for Mr. Wells

Reggie Bush- Love the way Miami has been using him so far in the preseason. Could be a great buy low in PPR leagues.

Downward spiral:

Jonathan Stewart- Well this is frustrating. Cant Be an elite fantasy RB without the touches. Stewart owners are going to have to bank on Deangelo Williams injuries until he becomes a free agent.

Mikel Leshoure/ Ryan Williams - talk about unfortunate. Not sure how these injuries will affect them in the future and with no value in redraft this year...had to drop them

Tier 1

1.Adrian Peterson RB MIN AGE:26

2.Chris Johnson RB TENN AGE:25

3. Jamaal Charles RB KC AGE:24

Tier 2

4.Darren McFadden RB OAK AGE:23

5.Arian Foster RB HOU AGE:24

6.Ray Rice RB BAL AGE:24

Tier 3

7. Lesean Mccoy RB PHI AGE:22

8.Maurice Jones Drew RB JAC AGE:26

9. Rashard Mendenhall RB PITT AGE:23

Tier 4

10.C.J. Spiller RB BUFF AGE:23

11.Steven Jackson RB STL AGE:27

12..Mark Ingram RB NO AGE:21

13.Matt Forte RB CHI AGE:25

Tier 5

14.Felix Jones RB DAL AGE:24

15.Ryan Mathews RB SD AGE:23

16. Jahvid Best RB DET AGE:22

17.Frank Gore RB SF AGE:27

Tier 6

18. Knowshon Moreno RB DEN AGE:23

19. Deangelo Williams RB F/A AGE:28

20.Chris Wells RB ARZ AGE:22

21.Jonathan Stewart RB CAR AGE:24

22.Michael Turner RB ATL AGE:29

23.Peyton Hillis RB CLE AGE:25

24.Ahmad Bradshaw RB NYG:25

25. Shonn Greene RB NYJ AGE:25

26. LaGarrette Blount RB TB AGE:24

Tier 7

27.Daniel Thomas RB MIA AGE:23

28. Marshawn Lynch RB SEA AGE:25

29.Reggie Bush RB MIA AGE:26

30.Alex Green RB GB AGE:21

31.Shane Vereen RB NE AGE:22

32.Mikel Leshoure RB DET AGE:21

33.Ryan Williams RB ARZ AGE:21

Tier 8

34.James Starks RB GB AGE:

35.Roy Helu RB WAS AGE:22

36.Joseph Addai IND AGE:28

37.Tim Hightower RB WAS AGE:24

38.Ben Tate RB HOU AGE:22

39.Kendall Hunter RB SF AGE:22

40. Montario Hardesty RB CLE AGE:24

41.Demarco Murray RB DAL AGE:23

42.Bernard Scott RB DAL AGE:

Tier 9

43.Jacquizz Rodgers RB ATL AGE:21

44.Jamie Harper RB TEN AGE:21

45.Delone Carter RB IND AGE:23

46.Cedric Benson RB CIN AGE:28

47.Pierre Thomas RB NO AGE:26

48.Mike Goodson RB CAL AGE:23

49.Fred Jackson RB BUF AGE:30

50.Stevan Ridley RB NE AGE:22

51.Mike Tolbert RB SD AGE:25

52.Ryan Grant RB GB AGE:28

Tier 10

53.Bilal Powell RB NYJ AGE:22

54.Taiwan Jones RB OAK AGE:22

55.Allen Bradford RB TB AGE:22

56.Michael Bush RB OAK AGE:26

57.Donald Brown RB IND AGE:24

58.Johnny White RB BUF AGE:23

59.Ryan Torain RB WAS AGE:24

60.Rashad Jennings RB JAC AGE:26

61.Ronnie Brown RB MIA AGE:29

62.Tashard Choice RB DAL AGE:26

63. Jalene Parmele RB BAL AGE:25

64.Jordan Todman RB SD AGE:21

65. Jerimiah Johnson RB DEN AGE:24

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