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Bye weeks usually aren't an issue for championships teams at QB. There are exceptions, but the top scoring teams for the year generally advance. Those that get tripped up are more likely to be banished before the byes. I'd rather get the upgrade at WR for the entire year then the upgrade for a bye week plus a few other weeks.
The question was who would I rather have if I had to choose between those two set of QB's, too me the simple answer is Schaub and Bradford, they beat out the combo of Rivers and Newton hands down IMO. That being said if I had drafted Schaub I would have waited on my backup and used that pick somewhere else instead of Bradford. But that wasn't the question I was answering I was simply answering that I like the combo of Schaub and Bradford better.
That there is where the problem lies. This isn't about last year. A person has to project out for this year. A person can't look back, a person has to look forward. Most people are looking for a huge leap for Bradford. Bradford on a much better team with much better weapsons with a offensive coordinator that seems to get the most out of his QB's equeals a possible huge leap in production. I have a sneaky feeling that Bradford alone is going to be real close to Rivers production this year. Schaub>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Newton. Yea, give me Bradford,Schaub over Rivers,Newton for this year.
Its a weird year where anything can happen, at the most sacred position in fantasy football with QB, its important to minimize risk when you are taking so much elsewhere in a lockout season.I'll take a superstar in Rivers who plays every game and has been performing every year, and a chump to fill in for one week, over an ok QB that your not sure what you'll get and a second year qb with he same thoughts. I personally think Rivers plays in a weaker division with better weapons. I'll take Rivers/Scrub over Schaub/Bradford.When you watch the games Sunday, and you need points, do you feel better with Rivers and Newton or Schaub and Bradford?I like Rivers, cuz I know he will throw it...A LOT!
Thank you for the critique. This is the first Survivor league that I have participated in ever, so I kinda went into it blind. In retrospect, waiting as long as I did on my QB2 cost me a roster spot, and I think that WR3 may be a problem area as well.Still, definitely a fun process, and hopefully I can finish in the top-12 so that I can stay alive for next season.Is that how it works? The top-4 move up to the next division, the middle 8 stay here, and the bottom 4 drop out?'BassNBrew said:
exactlyIf you want two solid QBs you have to go early...at least I waited until the third when all of the stud RBs/WRs/TEs had gone.
I was giving myself throughout the draft but I hurt myself by waiting too long to get in the run because I was trying to shore up my other positions. K and D are well, K and D. Overall, who knows how this team will turn out if and when football is finally played, but I had a lot of fun doing this and will definitely do it again.
Rodgers is awesome obviously, but the uncertainty of Hasselbeck adds some risk.
Likely one of the worst RB groups in the league. You'll need two of these players to surpass expectations in order to be a contender. A textbook example of the problem you have when you go QB early instead of stud RB.
Pretty good...Josh Morgan may be the savior of your depth. Not a huge fan of Hill or Roy so this team could strugge with depth.
Solid group, I like Kendricks to outperform his draft position.
I would agree this is a middle of the pack team. Grade = C+
just a hip injury and Harbaugh has already used the term workhorse
I think Newton will open up lanes for Stewart the same way Vick and Vince Young open up lanes for their RBs...the opposing defenses cannot just key on the primary back. In almost every situation with an elite running QB the runningbacks see a boost in YPC. I have Stewart with a top 5 ceiling this year if Williams isn't brought back.
I don't really see him as a flyer. I see him as the best North/South RB on Shannahan's team and a player guaranteed to get a lot of touches. He was way too undervalued in these SSLs.
Dude you just said Newton will open up lanes like Vick?You make that statement and claim to know football?Dudes a rookie on the worst team in football, but yup, he'll open up lanes for a guy who is just an average running back at this point with the team around him. He made his name coming in and getting DWills scraps. He has had some good games, but a top 5 ceiling!You give yourself an A when almost everyone gives you a C or less?just a hip injury and Harbaugh has already used the term workhorseI think Newton will open up lanes for Stewart the same way Vick and Vince Young open up lanes for their RBs...the opposing defenses cannot just key on the primary back. In almost every situation with an elite running QB the runningbacks see a boost in YPC. I have Stewart with a top 5 ceiling this year if Williams isn't brought back.I don't really see him as a flyer. I see him as the best North/South RB on Shannahan's team and a player guaranteed to get a lot of touches. He was way too undervalued in these SSLs.
Nothing to backup his argument, just a gut feeling!Helu, undervalued? Seriously, no need to even discuss any further, lololololololol.I just remember you saying TEs are over valued, lol, and still your TEs are not the best at all.Only 3 Rbs when you have Gore, not very good at risk protection are you? That has to be the worst decision in any survivor league that I have ever seen.LHucks is talking about a late round rookie who is on Washington being undervalued, lol. Gees dude I would pay for your comedy shows, at least you have that going for you.To be honest this is the worst team, with no first round players/performers? gees that is horrible......any person who drafted this team should be ashamed that they even continue an attempt at drafting fantasy football teams. I would take Jason Witten over any player on your team and i got him late in the s2nd round after you had 2 picks.Horrible performance LHucks, with all your talk, I thought you would out perform someone, anyone....but nope!
You cant be average or above average and take 3 RBs with these situations, and not have a stud QB at the helm. Just 3 RBs, just horrible!Schaub and Bradford are servicable, but no stud by any means. They should have a few good games, but they will also have some very bad games, more then you would see with a stud QB. Only 3 RBs and one that has an injury history that worries even KiJana Carter, another that is on the worst team in football with a rookie QB, and another that is a late round rookie....just shocks me. This alone has lost him any shot to last long, let alone a title shot.At WR I like a depth, have no real problems with that, how can you? But with that depth you have cost yourself large at RB as half your WR points will be wasted while its possible you can go without good points for many many weeks.At TE its very simple, this is a 2 ppr for TEs, LHucks has been here long and still has not caught on that that is very valuable, nothing special here at all, so no bonus points.K and Def, blah...they are kickers and defense.No superstuds anywhere, nothing great by any means where points can be made at TE, only 3 RBS and one is Gore and he gets hurt like clock work...so you will be down to 2 at one point...ugh, WRs are ok but with nice depth...would anybody take this team in a league if they gave it to you? prolly not!There is no possible way this team can get anything higher then a D.
I think people are overstating the value of a #4 RB. Take a look at the #4 RBs on every other team, we're talking about longshots for the most part. Sure there is injury risk to your studs, but every team has that risk with their high draft picks. Teams that drafted Vick/Rodgers/Andre Johnson are no different...all injury risks. Drafting a longshot #4 RB is playing for 6th place, not playing for first.You have to admit there is good deal of upside with each of these three players.
Is he really injury prone?
fair enough, we disagree mainly on the importance of a #4 RB and also on winslow, who I have ranked as the #5 TE. Thanks for the objective opinion.
I think your RBs would have looked a lot better had you taken Helu as your swing for the fences #4 running back rather than your #3 or taken another swing for the fences #4 RB. If you don't hit on Helu your team can go up in smoke in a hurry, but if you have 2 RBs you have a better chance of hitting. That is just my .02
Revising for the finished product.QB: B- with limited upside and virtually no downside.'LHUCKS said:
QB's- Not a bad combo. Should do ok for you.RB's- Hope 3 get you through. I'm a Niner fan so I'm looking for Gore to bounce back. Stewart will be the Panthers best player. Helu I picked up in the 2nd round of a rookie draft. Could push Torain out of the starter spot.'LHUCKS said:
Would like to hear what others think of my team.OK, my draft is over so I will give a little more analysis than the
Definitely below average. You need a lot of things to happen in order to not be below average at the position. You need Kolb to go to AZ and you need Vince Young to start somewhere. Kolb alone will likely not be enough, particularly with the lockout.
likely one of the best groups in the league, but the problem with drafting so many good RBs is that it weakens you at other critical positions :foreshadow: Nevertheless a pretty strong group. You probably should have considered going just 3 deep here to bolster your WR group.
I'm not as optomisitic about this group as you are. You have a decent #1 and after that it's pretty shotty. I only count 1 starting WR. It's rare to see an SSl champion with a WR group this weak.
Graham has never done it for an entire year, but I do agree if he stays healthy he has some nice PPR upside.If I'm being brutally hoest, you have below average QB/WR/TE/K/D. Yes you are strong at RB but that is hardly enough to make up for the shortcomings at the other positions. This team is likely out in the first half. Comparing your roster to mine for example, I have you outmanned at every single roster spot except for RBs #2 and #3. That means I outdrafted you at 16 other roster spots.
I wonder if anyone has ever won one of these survivor leagues only drafting 3 RB's?
I finished first or second once...I'll try to find the link.
Solid pair, will finish near the top in QB scoring.OK, my draft is over so I will give a little more analysis than the
Draft Spot 15 - snellman
QB: Tom Brady QB4
QB: Matt Cassel QB19
Two RBs that don't get many receptions, but should be consistent point scorers. And two rookie RBs whose roles are up in the air with likely committees. this group will be about average.
this is an okay group. I see 4 WRs that will contribute, but not much upside after Bryant and Harvin.
Likely below average pair. Hernandez shares targets with Gronkowski and Rudolph has a questionable offense with some TE competition his self.Overall I think this team is about average. Props to Snellman for picking up the team and keeping our draft moving.
exactlyHowever...I think it is important in the survivor format to have two unquestioned, solid starters so that you can avoid low scoring weeks.
Solid. Pretty good strategy here.
Pretty solid here. Not a huge fan of taking a total flyer like Reece, roster spots are too valuable.
This group is pretty solid as well. Not a ton of TD upside here so your WR scoring could end up a bit flat from week to week.
Probably a bit below average...hopefully Vick looks to Celek a bit more this year.
Above average here at both Kicker and DOverall this is a solid survivor team with well managed risk. I do think you could be missing too much upside at WR and TE to compete for the championship but you should definitely see the second half of the season.
Exactly, it's better not to reach. RBs were going too early in this draft, probably because we had a couple of new drafters.
I like it although there is a bit of risk with Vick's injury history and Tebow's lack of security if Orton sticks around.
This group is interesting. I think all 5 should contribute, but you may be missing that guy that can carry the RB spot as I expect modest numbers from Ingram his rookie year. I expect your scoring will be average to slightly below average but consistency should be good which is very important in this format.
This is the position that will eventually lead to your demise. Holmes and Collie should have a lot of competition for balls and neither are consistent redzone threats. Moss and Little are question marks. I do like Jacoby where you drafted him. This group will likely be below average to average although I do like your depth.
Very nice, above average here. Shockey was great value.
Nice job getting two Ds and two solid kickers.Overall I think this team will prove to be average given the lack of punch at RB and WR. You'll need guys like Santana Moss, Ingram and Spiller to surpass expectations.
The longer the lockout lasts the less likely Locker will even play. This is a below average QB group.
You're okay here, I actually really like Rice for this format as I drafted him WSL1...but you should've drafted WR instead of Goodson or McKnight.
This is terrible. Probably a bottom 3 WR group. You can't win in this format with WR groups like this.
You are about average here.
Nice job here.So in summary, you're strong at RB weak at QB and WR, average everywhere else. I suspect this squad will get bounced in the middle of the season...probably when one of your producing WRs is on bye.
About average at TE?
I'll keep it simple Hucks...
Personally I had Cutler ranked high and Palmer higher than most. I wouldn't call Roth under ranked. We knew what we were getting so he was the perfect match for someone taking a stud QB.Last year was kind of flukey for the TEs with Gates/Finley/Clark all missing time down the stretch. Two of the four Gates owners (yourself included) were rolling until he missed week 9.Many ways to skin this cat. You don't need a stud QB or TE to win, but they have also been key components of championship teams in the past.
Be careful unless you want to be called out for not displaying any hardcore football knowledge. Critic is all hardcore like Real Ultimate Power with his thorough analysis and complete objectivity.
Correct. I have Witten projected for a down year. Carlson is an average backup at best.About average at TE?
Average all around. Probably the least polarizing team in the league.
