Well, I got this on the exact opposite side (this was before Sunday's games also)J. charles and Sidney Rice forCalvin Johnosn (me) another that I have been meaning to postB. Marshall and J. finley (me) ...and this team is weak at QB) , but reallyfor Tony Romo (was before the rib injury)I got offered a 4th round pick and McGahee for Jamaal Charles.I know the guy's hurt...but come on.
I would never send Johnson for those two, but if a guy was very high on Rice and wasn't competitive this year...adding a first and another "future" type could make that deal at least an ok starting point.The 2nd one - lol. I wouldn't trade either for Romo straight up.Well, I got this on the exact opposite side (this was before Sunday's games also)J. charles and Sidney Rice forCalvin Johnosn (me) another that I have been meaning to postB. Marshall and J. finley (me) ...and this team is weak at QB) , but reallyfor Tony Romo (was before the rib injury)I got offered a 4th round pick and McGahee for Jamaal Charles.I know the guy's hurt...but come on.
His Mark Ingram for my James Starks.I took it.
It could be a lottery pick again. That team had the 1.01 last year...Also right after the broncos signed manning yesterday I was offered martellus Bennett and a 2013 first (from one of the best teams in the league) for demaryius Thomas
This is a good point, a low initial "anchoring" point, can be a good opening in a trade negotiation. As generally the discussion will have that as the starting point, hence being first to make an offer tends to be preferred. **Provided** you didn't annoy/offend the other party, and you yourself are flexible in return. Irks me, when someone tries to lowball me, then stoneface me. Lowball me, fine, or stone face me, if not interested, but lowball, followed by a stoneface can be annoying.IMO there are no such things as bad offers. I have made some great trades that I lowballed the other team just to get things going and they accepted.
What is meant by stoneface? I prefer to try to give close to my best offer on the first offer 90% of the time. It makes other owners want to trade with you more often. What I find ridiculous are those who lowball you then follow it up with "Counter?". If you want someone from me and you initiated the proceedings, then it's up to you to give me a good initial offer. That's the way I do business and I trade a lot and I win a lot.This is a good point, a low initial "anchoring" point, can be a good opening in a trade negotiation. As generally the discussion will have that as the starting point, hence being first to make an offer tends to be preferred. **Provided** you didn't annoy/offend the other party, and you yourself are flexible in return. Irks me, when someone tries to lowball me, then stoneface me. Lowball me, fine, or stone face me, if not interested, but lowball, followed by a stoneface can be annoying.IMO there are no such things as bad offers. I have made some great trades that I lowballed the other team just to get things going and they accepted.
I just threw up a little in my mouth.Just had this go down in a dynasty league I am in. I don't usually question trades in dynasty since everyone values players differently, but I think this is quite lopsided.Team A gives:1.01Phillip RiversTeam B gives:RoethlisbergerShonn Greene1.11
Too bad the jets didn't follow suitGuy just tried to trade me Tebow for a 4th.Told that ### clown where to go.
Sorry by "stoneface", I'm implying someone who doesn't blink when you call them on something. They don't budge or flex from their position. IE Me: C'mon guy, I'm not paying a 2nd rounder for a kicker. Stoneface: He's going to be in a massive offensive system, he's an upgrade to your lineup. Me: I could throw a 6th rounder for a kicker, but for a 2nd rounder, I'm more interested in Best or Mike Williams. It's close to "don't BS a BSer", give some respect to your negotiating party. Sometimes followed by the "trying to make you think you're crazy routine." I'll trade with anyone, but people that start with (1) lowball (2) move to stoneface (non-admittance of lowball) (3) imply you are the crazy one for rejecting said low-ball, will move down my priority list trade wise pretty quickly. I always leave the door open, but only engage some owners when I feel I have the patience to deal with their song and dance. For better or worse.What is meant by stoneface? I prefer to try to give close to my best offer on the first offer 90% of the time. It makes other owners want to trade with you more often. What I find ridiculous are those who lowball you then follow it up with "Counter?". If you want someone from me and you initiated the proceedings, then it's up to you to give me a good initial offer. That's the way I do business and I trade a lot and I win a lot.This is a good point, a low initial "anchoring" point, can be a good opening in a trade negotiation. As generally the discussion will have that as the starting point, hence being first to make an offer tends to be preferred. **Provided** you didn't annoy/offend the other party, and you yourself are flexible in return. Irks me, when someone tries to lowball me, then stoneface me. Lowball me, fine, or stone face me, if not interested, but lowball, followed by a stoneface can be annoying.IMO there are no such things as bad offers. I have made some great trades that I lowballed the other team just to get things going and they accepted.
These kind of trade offers are my favorite. You'll have to throw in Taiwan...you know...just to even things out.I was just offered Mendenhall in exchange for the 1.01 and Taiwan Jones.
WR20 hey?I would prefer the pick side, but that is not a bad offer, especially an initial offer.Crazy talk. A WR20 or so for a legit dynasty WR already ranked in the top 20 PLUS high second and thirds(draft is not serpentine)?Crazy talk i say.This doesn't belong in this thread.Percy Harvin for my 1.03, 2.03 and 3.03 this year.
Both of the ones posted were official. One in a league with a lot of respected owners.i wonder if we need to stipulate that these were "official" offers through the league website... i'm getting some real interesting offers through DMs and email, but nothing too bad that were "official"... and FWIW, JohnnyU has sent two different first offers that were very fair (which I appreciate)
Well deserving of being posted in this thread.I generally don't post in these type of threads, but every once in a while I get a real head scratcher. Got this one during a rookie draft last week:I give: 1.13 + 2.02 + 2.03 + 3.02I get: 2013 2nd + 2013 3rd
Which side is the bad offer?heBranch, Deion NEP WRDavis, Fred WAS TEYear 2014 Round 1 Draft PickmeYear 2012 Draft Pick 1.03Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.11
Some of these you can argue different player valuation, or someone's trying to react to new news with trade offers that don't reflect those changes.This is the first that just relies on you being either bad at math or in a coma.I generally don't post in these type of threads, but every once in a while I get a real head scratcher. Got this one during a rookie draft last week:I give: 1.13 + 2.02 + 2.03 + 3.02I get: 2013 2nd + 2013 3rd
I don't know how I feel about this. RG3 throwing to Garcon for the next 10 year vs Peyton throwing to Thomas for 2 or 3. Definitely not the worst offer on this thread, but I do like how he threw in the fourth rounder, lol.Dynasty Idp Ppr. I give Demaryius Thomas and a 4thForPierre Thomas
Pierre thomas - saints backup running backNot Pierre Garçon - redskins WRI don't know how I feel about this. RG3 throwing to Garcon for the next 10 year vs Peyton throwing to Thomas for 2 or 3. Definitely not the worst offer on this thread, but I do like how he threw in the fourth rounder, lol.Dynasty Idp Ppr. I give Demaryius Thomas and a 4thForPierre Thomas
There are a lot of those types that get sent but in large dynasty leagues where depth is critical and extremely hard to come by, it frustrates me even more when you see a guy NOT take a multi for one deal (assuming the players offered are legit). You know, that guy that has an unhealthy lust for a "name" player and just holds him forever without ever improving his team (I guess its their team and they can do what they want with it but its boring when half your league are annual doormats because they want to take MJD to the prom).'EBF said:The most common kind of horrible offers that I get are those "four nickels for a dollar" type of deals where someone offers you all of their waiver fodder for a useful, or even great player. You know the kind of offers I'm talking about. Something like...
Kevin Kolb
Nate Burleson
John Carlson
2014 3rd round rookie pick
for
Dez Bryant
Yea....
Would you give a top 3 2012 rookie for Fred Davis and some unidentified pick 2 years from now?'Instinctive said:Which side is the bad offer?'coolnerd said:heBranch, Deion NEP WRDavis, Fred WAS TEYear 2014 Round 1 Draft PickmeYear 2012 Draft Pick 1.03Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.11
We must be in the same leagueWe've got a few guys in our leagues who get very insulted by bad offers. They are also the same guys who are amazed that we can pull off deals and they can't. At this point no one trades with them unless we're screwing them over a bit.
Wow - that is bad, lol.Pierre thomas - saints backup running backNot Pierre Garçon - redskins WRI don't know how I feel about this. RG3 throwing to Garcon for the next 10 year vs Peyton throwing to Thomas for 2 or 3. Definitely not the worst offer on this thread, but I do like how he threw in the fourth rounder, lol.Dynasty Idp Ppr. I give Demaryius Thomas and a 4thForPierre Thomas
I don't think I would, but I have Gronk or Graham in most leagues.The point it...that deal isn't even in the realm of this thread, just goes to show that people need not be so touchy...Would you give a top 3 2012 rookie for Fred Davis and some unidentified pick 2 years from now?Which side is the bad offer?heBranch, Deion NEP WRDavis, Fred WAS TEYear 2014 Round 1 Draft PickmeYear 2012 Draft Pick 1.03Year 2012 Draft Pick 2.11