msudaisy26
Footballguy
We heard that about a guy named Drew Henson once to, I am not saying he is him but it wouldn't be the first time they were wrong
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PatsFanCT
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ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Well, we know Mallett can say the right thing when interviewed.
cstu
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Mallet is just a backup. Nothing to see here.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
Pretty sure Brady was drafted before Rogers, so if Rogers was on the Pats, he'd be a backup. Just like he was to Favre.
msudaisy26
Footballguy
Depends on the system, if Brady was in Green Bay I bet he would be the back up, if Rodgers was in New England I bet he would be the back up. The true test would be if they were both free agents and both signed with the same team... but we all know that we will never find out that answer
cstu
Footballguy
Favre held onto his job through age 38 despite having two sub-par seasons (2005 and 2006) in Rodgers' 1st and 2nd years.
Mallett was drafted too early by the Pats (Brady was 34 his rookie year) for him to take over. If the Pats had drafted Rodgers he'd still be holding the clipboard the way Mallett is.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
no he wouldnt
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Rodgers is younger, has won a Super Bowl within the past 3 seasons, and makes more money than Brady. Rodgers is arguably the best player in the NFL. I can't think of a player making more money than him. No way he rides the pine for Brady or anyone else. He forced a legend out the door in Green Bay and he'd have done the same in New England by now. Either that or he'd be playing elsewhere.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Some revisionist history. Favre retired, then Rodgers took over and they didn't want a mess when Favre decided not to retire, as I recall.
Has the Pats drafted Rodgers, he'd be starting for another team after his contract ran out, or he'd still be sitting behind Brady.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Yeah, why do you think the Packers didn't want that mess? Maybe because they had an aging QB who hadn't delivered in over a decade....hmmm.
massraider
Footballguy
Really, really, really stupid argument.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
Seems to me that you're the revisionist. If I'm not mistaken - and I'm not - Favre in fact unretired and was on the roster at the Packers' training camp in August of 2008 when GB chose Rodgers over Favre by trading Favre to the Jets.
Wise Old Owl
Footballguy
Rodgers is likely the best QB in the NFL right now. If the pats had drafted him, he would be on the Bench behind Brady or on another team.
Seems to me that you're the revisionist. If I'm not mistaken - and I'm not - Favre in fact unretired and was on the roster at the Packers' training camp in August of 2008 when GB chose Rodgers over Favre by trading Favre to the Jets.
cstu
Footballguy
Rodgers sat the bench for 3 years before the Packers finally decided to give him a chance. It wasn't until his 4th year when Favre was 39 that they decided to let him start.
Seems to me that you're the revisionist. If I'm not mistaken - and I'm not - Favre in fact unretired and was on the roster at the Packers' training camp in August of 2008 when GB chose Rodgers over Favre by trading Favre to the Jets.
It's pretty delusional to think Rodgers would beat out a 36 yo Brady who is coming off 4 straight Pro Bowl seasons.
Bronco Billy
Footballguy
If you say so. Forgive me if I disagreeRodgers sat the bench for 3 years before the Packers finally decided to give him a chance. It wasn't until his 4th year when Favre was 39 that they decided to let him start.It's pretty delusional to think Rodgers would beat out a 36 yo Brady who is coming off 4 straight Pro Bowl seasons.
Seems to me that you're the revisionist. If I'm not mistaken - and I'm not - Favre in fact unretired and was on the roster at the Packers' training camp in August of 2008 when GB chose Rodgers over Favre by trading Favre to the Jets.
EBF
Footballguy
I think Mallett is a different beast compared to the likes of Hoyer and Cassell.
He was a dominant college player, a relatively high draft pick (despite character concerns), and has a cannon for an arm.
I've been stashing him in several leagues for years under the belief that it's only a matter of time until he gets an opportunity to start somewhere.
A lot solid to good qbs flourished after they left gb. Hasselbeck, Warner, Aaron brooks to an extent.
PatsFanCT
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
this just isn't true,
in 2010 vs Georgia on the road - 380 yards and 3 tds
in 2010 vs LSU - 320 yards and 3tds and a win
in 2010 vs Texas A&M on the road - 310 yards 3td and win
in the bowl games vs ohio state 270 yards and 2tds, a loss
he threw for 357 and 1td and 3int vs bama
not sure you even looked at his stats
ShaHBucks
Footballguy
I was listing his tougher games. In comparison to what he was doing vs Tennessee Tech, Louisiana-Monroe, UTEP, and Vandy (2-10) there was a big drop off when you look at his TD, INTs, and yards/TDs per pass attempt. Great Qb's usually keep up the same pace or see a slight dip. Either way he wasn't dominating the better defenses he faced. I think he's good, but I wouldn't say dominate. If he's been groomed well enough to correct some of his decision making on/off the field he could be great. His size and arm strength made him the perfect developmental QB.bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
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EBF
Footballguy
Any NE homers have any insight on his 2014 outlook? I've got him on the end of my bench in a lot of leagues. 2014 is his last season under contract with the Patriots, so we're getting into put up or shut up time. Either they shift him to a new team in the offseason while they still have him signed or they let him walk in the summer for no compensation. It seems like next season might finally be the year when we see what he can do.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
I'm holding Mallett in a Superflex league and praying he steps into a starting job sometime in the next year.
massraider
Footballguy
Yes, I am sure teams are lining up to sign an unproven QB with a college coke habit, in the last year of his deal, and sign him to starter money.
Is one #1 draft pick enough????
Is one #1 draft pick enough????
Teams (including NE) won't know until he plays. I think NE has the most to lose by playing him. ( and giving Brady a week off with a hurt pinky or whatever they come up with. If they were to clinch and have a "free" game)
I don't see his value being more than a late second or third. Getting a specific player to fill a specific position might be better here.
If he plays and does well, the sky's the limit for what some former fan of his that's a GM will pay.
If he stinks, they probably struggle to even move him at all.
Trying to remember stats from Bob's thread with Bradford...I don't think many QBs in 4th or later have done well. This year is like the year of the undrafted free agent QB so we might be amidst a new trend in the NFL. This will totally mess up the QB market. I don't think backup QBs are properly thought of in value so I think this was inevitable. Vince Young kicking around, Seneca joining and starting....there's guys that should have been out of the league, still around just so they can get the chance to play poorly. Compare that to the energy an unknown FA brings this year and I think change is in the air. We'll see.
I don't see his value being more than a late second or third. Getting a specific player to fill a specific position might be better here.
If he plays and does well, the sky's the limit for what some former fan of his that's a GM will pay.
If he stinks, they probably struggle to even move him at all.
Trying to remember stats from Bob's thread with Bradford...I don't think many QBs in 4th or later have done well. This year is like the year of the undrafted free agent QB so we might be amidst a new trend in the NFL. This will totally mess up the QB market. I don't think backup QBs are properly thought of in value so I think this was inevitable. Vince Young kicking around, Seneca joining and starting....there's guys that should have been out of the league, still around just so they can get the chance to play poorly. Compare that to the energy an unknown FA brings this year and I think change is in the air. We'll see.
EBF
Footballguy
Yeah, that's kinda my take as well. I don't think they could get a 1 for him. He hasn't shown enough. A 2 could be possible. There are always teams with QB needs. It might make more sense to spend your 2nd on Mallett and hope you can plug him in right away than to burn a 1st on a rookie.
If for some reason NE doesn't move him then I think he will sign somewhere with a chance to start in 2015.
loose circuits
Footballguy
Was thinking he would be perfect candidate to run bill O'brien offense in Houston. Anyone agree?
MAC_32
Footballguy
Lombardi will do like he did with hoyer. Wait til he's cut and sign him to a two year deal.
MAC_32
Footballguy
if O'Brien goes to Houston I think manziel is his play.
loose circuits
Footballguy
why? O'brien runs patriot style offense, he came up in that system
MAC_32
Footballguy
why can't manziel run a patriots-like system?
PatsFanCT
Footballguy
Deamon
Footballguy
No way Houston drafts Manziel #1 overall.
He will definitely go after a QB right away I think, but with O'Brien there Bridgewater should be the guy. He plays a typical pro style offense
JFS171
Footballguy
There's been a lot of local talk in Houston about taking Clowney and finding a QB that's ready to step in immediately, whether a veteran they sign or trading for a guy in-waiting.
The thought being that Houston isn't far away. Clowney and getting their guys back healthy can make the D borderline elite again. The running game can still be there again, and the passing game has weapons in place.
Mallet could make a lot of sense for the Texans...
The thought being that Houston isn't far away. Clowney and getting their guys back healthy can make the D borderline elite again. The running game can still be there again, and the passing game has weapons in place.
Mallet could make a lot of sense for the Texans...
loose circuits
Footballguy
Clowney and Watt rushing passer= trouble for AFC South
MAC_32
Footballguy
I doubt he is going to run the exact same system. He took elements of the attack to Penn St and adjusted to his personnel. He'll do the same in Houston.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I'd vote no on that one. O'Brien came to NE in 2007 as an Assistant and took over as OC in 2011 after McDaniels left. If anyone restructured or modernized the Pats offense, it would be McDaniels. Plus they still have plays and formations they use from the Charlie Weis era. Not sure O'Brien is really the mastermind here (although he did do well when handed the keys to the offense).
