I think he's looked really good, but he's also been playing against the dregs on the opposing team.Not sure how many of my fellow Eagle fans will agree but this pre-season he has given me a Westbrook feeling when he was a rookie. The way he's looked this pre-season makes you wonder why he fell so far in the draft.
I got that feeling as well. Have to temper it a little because it was 2nd and 3rd string last night but he looked good. He wasn't just trying to burn people. He was patient behind the line and waited forthe hole to open. He angled off the blockers well and turned losses into gains for the times he was caught behind the line. Reminds me a lot of Warrick Dunn. I think he makes the team. Bye bye Eldra Buckley.Not sure how many of my fellow Eagle fans will agree but this pre-season he has given me a Westbrook feeling when he was a rookie. The way he's looked this pre-season makes you wonder why he fell so far in the draft.
Good comparison. Kind of limited in FF though. If he were on the Colts or Some team like that, he would be my 2nd most favorite dynasty rookie RB stash.I got that feeling as well. Have to temper it a little because it was 2nd and 3rd string last night but he looked good. He wasn't just trying to burn people. He was patient behind the line and waited forthe hole to open. He angled off the blockers well and turned losses into gains for the times he was caught behind the line. Reminds me a lot of Warrick Dunn. I think he makes the team. Bye bye Eldra Buckley.Not sure how many of my fellow Eagle fans will agree but this pre-season he has given me a Westbrook feeling when he was a rookie. The way he's looked this pre-season makes you wonder why he fell so far in the draft.
Of course. This year he'll only have limited value if McCoy gets hurt. In the years to come though, Ronnie Brown will be gone and Lewis could start to creep in on an upwards of 30% of the carries. Maybe even more in a few years when Mccoy starts to slow down. In this offense, he's a perfect fit. Didn't seem to have trouble finding the LB's to block either. Again 2nd and 3rd string though.Good comparison. Kind of limited in FF though. If he were on the Colts or Some team like that, he would be my 2nd most favorite dynasty rookie RB stash.I got that feeling as well. Have to temper it a little because it was 2nd and 3rd string last night but he looked good. He wasn't just trying to burn people. He was patient behind the line and waited forthe hole to open. He angled off the blockers well and turned losses into gains for the times he was caught behind the line. Reminds me a lot of Warrick Dunn. I think he makes the team. Bye bye Eldra Buckley.Not sure how many of my fellow Eagle fans will agree but this pre-season he has given me a Westbrook feeling when he was a rookie. The way he's looked this pre-season makes you wonder why he fell so far in the draft.
I wouldn't get too excited unless you are playing in a PPR league. I would think Ronnie would get most of the carries as he will spell McCoy quite a bit I think this year. Lewis has been a very pleasent surprise though. Hope they keep him (i'm sure they will).'ex-ghost said:If McCoy were to go down, any predictions on how the Brown/Lewis split would look?
Guy's a pure talent. I think in 3 years, he might be the guy if shady has worn down. RB shelf lives are very short.I wouldn't get too excited unless you are playing in a PPR league. I would think Ronnie would get most of the carries as he will spell McCoy quite a bit I think this year. Lewis has been a very pleasent surprise though. Hope they keep him (i'm sure they will).'ex-ghost said:If McCoy were to go down, any predictions on how the Brown/Lewis split would look?
He's the perfect high upside mid/late draft dynasty stash. Great team, skill set tailored to that offense. I don't think Scott (who was I believe 25 years old entering the league....with a long criminal record) is the best comparison. He's nowhere near as talented either.Bernard Scott is another Adrian Peterson (old Bears version). The majority of RB stashes aren't going to work out for owners (there's only so many starting RB spots)If Dion is adequate in blitz pickup, he'll be playing on Sundays for awhile.I'd really love to pick him up. Problem is, I don't want to end up with another Bernard Scott sitting on the roster for years. His opportunity with the Eagles is not there yet.
OK, but when? And where? Is he more talented than McCoy? I agree that he is younger, and maybe more talented than Scott. But right now, there is less in Scott's way than Dion.He's the perfect high upside mid/late draft dynasty stash. Great team, skill set tailored to that offense. I don't think Scott (who was I believe 25 years old entering the league....with a long criminal record) is the best comparison. He's nowhere near as talented either.Bernard Scott is another Adrian Peterson (old Bears version). The majority of RB stashes aren't going to work out for owners (there's only so many starting RB spots)If Dion is adequate in blitz pickup, he'll be playing on Sundays for awhile.I'd really love to pick him up. Problem is, I don't want to end up with another Bernard Scott sitting on the roster for years. His opportunity with the Eagles is not there yet.
I actually went to Pitt and saw both play live during my time at school...After shady left, i was kinda pissed but then Dion LOOKED and PLAYED as good or better without Jeff Otah IIRC who shady had during his time. Dion broke almost all of shadys records that broke Curtis martin's school records the year before. What's scary is that Ray Graham, backup who was behind dion, looked amazing last year too. (He had 200 and 3 yesterday in his first game as a starter). Dion is legit but a bit undersized. I really didnt think shady would have half of the career he has had already in the nfl.If shady can do it, I think dion is able to as well.OK, but when? And where? Is he more talented than McCoy? I agree that he is younger, and maybe more talented than Scott. But right now, there is less in Scott's way than Dion.He's the perfect high upside mid/late draft dynasty stash. Great team, skill set tailored to that offense. I don't think Scott (who was I believe 25 years old entering the league....with a long criminal record) is the best comparison. He's nowhere near as talented either.Bernard Scott is another Adrian Peterson (old Bears version). The majority of RB stashes aren't going to work out for owners (there's only so many starting RB spots)If Dion is adequate in blitz pickup, he'll be playing on Sundays for awhile.I'd really love to pick him up. Problem is, I don't want to end up with another Bernard Scott sitting on the roster for years. His opportunity with the Eagles is not there yet.
Another guy I like that hasn't been giving a chance is NOEL DEVINE. It's crazy to think the eagles had Dion and NOEL just sittin there on the bench ... wow NOEL is a stud in the making to and I def think Dion could be as good or better then mccoy. he was in college with less talent around him. He broke mccoy and martins records... The reason guys like Dion and hunter, noel got drafted late or not even drafted in noel's case is because here we go again, scouts thinking they knnow talent and because of their size... But we all know size doesn't matter, or at the very least is very overrated.There are a bunch of highlight clips from the last preseason game mixed in with his interview here:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiU0y2ThukcLooks pretty good. Could he be the next MJD/Rice/McCoy? Remember, almost no one thought those guys would be as good as they've been in the NFL. The biggest short term problem is the lack of opportunity. It will be interesting to see if he cuts into McCoy's touches at all. Either way, he's only 20 years old and he's on a four year deal, so he could be a FA when he's 24.
you realize Noel Devine left the team after only a few practices and basically flaked out? http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/01/noel-devine-quit-on-the-eagles/Another guy I like that hasn't been giving a chance is NOEL DEVINE. It's crazy to think the eagles had Dion and NOEL just sittin there on the bench ... wow NOEL is a stud in the making to and I def think Dion could be as good or better then mccoy. he was in college with less talent around him. He broke mccoy and martins records... The reason guys like Dion and hunter, noel got drafted late or not even drafted in noel's case is because here we go again, scouts thinking they knnow talent and because of their size... But we all know size doesn't matter, or at the very least is very overrated.There are a bunch of highlight clips from the last preseason game mixed in with his interview here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiU0y2Thukc
Looks pretty good. Could he be the next MJD/Rice/McCoy? Remember, almost no one thought those guys would be as good as they've been in the NFL.
The biggest short term problem is the lack of opportunity. It will be interesting to see if he cuts into McCoy's touches at all.
Either way, he's only 20 years old and he's on a four year deal, so he could be a FA when he's 24.
Nice call.Another guy I like that hasn't been giving a chance is NOEL DEVINE. It's crazy to think the eagles had Dion and NOEL just sittin there on the bench ... wow NOEL is a stud in the making to and I def think Dion could be as good or better then mccoy. he was in college with less talent around him. He broke mccoy and martins records... The reason guys like Dion and hunter, noel got drafted late or not even drafted in noel's case is because here we go again, scouts thinking they knnow talent and because of their size... But we all know size doesn't matter, or at the very least is very overrated.There are a bunch of highlight clips from the last preseason game mixed in with his interview here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiU0y2Thukc
Looks pretty good. Could he be the next MJD/Rice/McCoy? Remember, almost no one thought those guys would be as good as they've been in the NFL.
The biggest short term problem is the lack of opportunity. It will be interesting to see if he cuts into McCoy's touches at all.
Either way, he's only 20 years old and he's on a four year deal, so he could be a FA when he's 24.
Not sure about punts, but he will be returning kickoffs this coming Sunday... or at least catching the ball and taking a knee in the end zone anyway, as most kickoffs seem to play out now.Is Lewis in the mix to return punts now that Hall is cut?
His 1 carry against NY was when the outcome was still in doubt (Eagles still had the lead). Ronnie Brown has done nothing much so far, so I think it's possible he could move past him (but Brown is technically the main backup right now).His biggest impact is kickoff returns right now.Is he just playing in garbage time or seeing the field in meaningful situations?
For this year maybe, but I'm not sure I'd really say Brown is in front of him. Both are used in limited roles. If something happened to McCoy, Lewis would be heavily involved and from what I've seen likely outplay Brown.Nobody is saying to go pick the guy up and use him as your RB in redrafts. This thread is more about the potential he's shown which can mean he's a good buy low in dynasty leagues if teams share your perspectiveDont count on much from him. He has Brown in front of him & Brown is gettng maybe 3-5 touches a game
Can anybody confirm this? FBG write up mentioned this as well.looks like he's passed Ronnie Brown up and is now Lesean's back-up? Haven't seen Brown at all today...
Lewis had two carries and Brown had none. I'm also guessing Brown is in the doghouse for his boneheaded fumble the week prior. Official depth chart on nfl.com still has Brown 2nd string, but I think it's Lewis.Can anybody confirm this? FBG write up mentioned this as well.looks like he's passed Ronnie Brown up and is now Lesean's back-up? Haven't seen Brown at all today...
not sure why you need confirmation. I'm an Eagle fan with all 3 of these guys on one of my rosters so i'm interested on how it plays out and watched intently. Brown barely played if at all. I'd suggest that Lewis is his handcuff at this point, but it would likely be RBBC anywaysCan anybody confirm this? FBG write up mentioned this as well.looks like he's passed Ronnie Brown up and is now Lesean's back-up? Haven't seen Brown at all today...
those depth charts are anything but officialLewis had two carries and Brown had none. I'm also guessing Brown is in the doghouse for his boneheaded fumble the week prior. Official depth chart on nfl.com still has Brown 2nd string, but I think it's Lewis.Can anybody confirm this? FBG write up mentioned this as well.looks like he's passed Ronnie Brown up and is now Lesean's back-up? Haven't seen Brown at all today...
This offense won't be there in 2013... can't imagine Andy Reid lasting that longBrown has a different role from Lewis. Dion is the same as McCoy. Brown is supposed to be the bewteen the tackles back. Lewis has tremendous value in dynasty because we've seen what Westbrook and now McCoy can do in this offense. By 2013, Lewis should have a prominent role in the offense.
Definitely a guy those in dynasties should target. Clear backup to McCoy, but his talent is evident. Opportunities always arise when it appears there is no shot (Shaun Alexander w. Ricky Waters, Duece McAllister behind Ricky Williams).Dion's only value is as a handcuff. McCoy is one of the best RB's in the league, and is far younger than anyone thinks. Dion will need an injury to McCoy see any significant action any time soon.That said....in deep dynasties where you can stash him for 2 or 3 years....his value is much higher...I'd buy!
Maybe 6 or 7 yrs considering that McCoy is 23 yrs oldThat said....in deep dynasties where you can stash him for 2 or 3 years....his value is much higher...I'd buy!
You don't think they will want a good coach in 2 years or you think he will retire?This offense won't be there in 2013... can't imagine Andy Reid lasting that longBrown has a different role from Lewis. Dion is the same as McCoy. Brown is supposed to be the bewteen the tackles back. Lewis has tremendous value in dynasty because we've seen what Westbrook and now McCoy can do in this offense. By 2013, Lewis should have a prominent role in the offense.
Yep...that's why his value is highest only where you can hold him a while. Unless McCoy were to suffer a career-threatening injury, someones contract would have to expire and then that someone moves on.Maybe 6 or 7 yrs considering that McCoy is 23 yrs oldThat said....in deep dynasties where you can stash him for 2 or 3 years....his value is much higher...I'd buy!
I see alot of Ray Rice in him. Small back, but can run between the tackles. I think the Eagles got a good one in Lewis.He looks tiny out there. Very quick though.
I don't know how long Dion's deal is, but another possibility is that the Eagles could decide to trade McCoy at some point. It's not a likely scenario, but it has happened to guys like Portis and Ricky. I tend to agree with the general sentiment that talent finds opportunity, but it doesn't always work out that way (see: Jonathan Stewart). I still like Lewis as a dynasty buy because he's dirt cheap and I think he might be a legit NFL talent. A lot can happen from an opportunity standpoint. Injuries are very common at the RB position. If McCoy goes down, you might suddenly have a top 5 ppr back on your hands. Nevermind the fact that Lewis is young in his own right. He's young enough to go the Michael Turner route of riding out his rookie contract and still emerging as a starter at a young age.Yep...that's why his value is highest only where you can hold him a while. Unless McCoy were to suffer a career-threatening injury, someones contract would have to expire and then that someone moves on.Maybe 6 or 7 yrs considering that McCoy is 23 yrs oldThat said....in deep dynasties where you can stash him for 2 or 3 years....his value is much higher...I'd buy!