Doug Drinen

Another FBG subscriber contest

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Joe mentioned this in an email a few nights ago. He's fascinated by the concept of the Wisdom of Crowds and no one has a wiser crowd than we do. So we're going to see what happens when we let you all build a set of community rankings.

The basics: you answer up to 50 WDIS questions per day. Answer them better than anyone else, you win cash.

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Looks really fun and challenging. Should be a blast.

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In, although I'm guessing my interest will wane over the course of the season (ETA: not because of any flaw in the contest, just that I doubt I'll be able to muster the energy to answer 150+ questions every week).

Is / will there be a link to the contest somewhere on the main FBG site? I didn't see it listed under contests or MyFBG...

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OK, I made my picks and submitted. However, when reviewing my picks it seems like there are several that don't match the picks I made. For example, I'm sure I picked Hernandez over both Heath Miller and Gronkowski, yet when my answers were displayed for review, the opposite was indicated. There also seemed to be at least one answer that I don't even recognize from from the list of questions that I answered, e.g. "Graham Gano - WAS over Sebastian Janikowski - OAK".

It's still early in the day for me, and I may have mis-clicked once or twice, but there seems to be a lot that doesn't match up. There doesn't appear to be any way to edit the answers.

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Fired up for this. Thanks to Doug for making this a reality. :thumbup:

You guys let us know how it's working for you and if we need to fix things and then I'll unveil it to the masses tonight.

J

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OK, I made my picks and submitted. However, when reviewing my picks it seems like there are several that don't match the picks I made. For example, I'm sure I picked Hernandez over both Heath Miller and Gronkowski, yet when my answers were displayed for review, the opposite was indicated. There also seemed to be at least one answer that I don't even recognize from from the list of questions that I answered, e.g. "Graham Gano - WAS over Sebastian Janikowski - OAK".It's still early in the day for me, and I may have mis-clicked once or twice, but there seems to be a lot that doesn't match up. There doesn't appear to be any way to edit the answers.

I submitted mine and had the same thing. I know I did not pick Alex Smith over Sanchez or Percy Harvin over Witten.

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x3 I submitted all 50 picks and the system only recognized 80% of my picks correctly.

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x3 I submitted all 50 picks and the system only recognized 80% of my picks correctly.

I had the same thing happen and thought I was crazy......... There seems to be serious bug issues with this so far.

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I didn't look at my answer summary, but I know that I had the same matchup listed back to back. When I would change the answer in one question, it would eliminate the answer in the other....so I probably only had 49 answers today (didn't count though).

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x3 I submitted all 50 picks and the system only recognized 80% of my picks correctly.

Same here

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x3 I submitted all 50 picks and the system only recognized 80% of my picks correctly.

Same here
Crazy cool contest idea though. Really looking forward to it. Just hope that I actually remember to submit entries frequently enough.

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Had 3 questions that were duplicates so I was only able to answer 47 of them. Looking at the "Submited" answers didn't seem to quite match up with what i put in.

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Answered. Although I did not know that if you don't answer some on the initial list, you cannot go back and get more questions for those that you did not answer.

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I didn't look at my answer summary, but I know that I had the same matchup listed back to back. When I would change the answer in one question, it would eliminate the answer in the other....so I probably only had 49 answers today (didn't count though).

I had the same problem.

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Sorry about this.Will debug shortly....

I had one question repeated and it would only let me answer it once. Made me leave the second question blank.

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Cool Idea. Please take this as constructive criticism and not as whining about a FREE contest but thats ALOT of clicking per week to remain eligible. If the goal is to weed out the casual guy and leave only the hard core clickers you may succeed. If the goal is fun for alot more people you might think about lowering the requirements.

Also I see you can answer questions 4 different days but only 55 questions today. In the future will all the picks be up the first day or will we have to check in and click 3 different days to get the required 125 picks in?

Again thanks for the free contest. Whowever wins this has my respect. :eek:

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I ran into the same issue with several of my picks being reversed on the summary page after hitting submit.

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Bug found.

I'm going to have to delete all answers and start over :bag: :bag: :bag: :bag:

Very sorry. Details to follow....

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Once again, very sorry for the trouble. That's why we did an early morning Pool-only soft launch. Lots of moving parts here and I figured it was likely something would be messed up.

The good news is that the same screw-up was causing both the wrong answers and the duplicate questions. You shouldn't be served dupes anymore. As an added bonus, your answers will now be recorded correctly!

Just to be clear, all answers you submitted prior to 10:52 central time were deleted. So if you want in for today, you've got to re-enter. I apologize, and I greatly appreciate the patience of The Pool.

Now, on to some other comments....

The 50-per-day limit is flexible. If we think we can get more overall clicks by lowering that limit (and hence increasing the number of participants), then we'll do it. You tell me.

The once-per-day thing is so we can get a steady stream of votes throughout the week. If we didn't make you answer questions on Wednesday, then everyone would wait until Saturday (when situations are clearer) to submit their full weekly allotment. But we want to be able to produce rankings earlier in the week.

Finally, the fact that you're not allowed to change your vote... If you could, I think a lot of people would enter randomish picks early in the day (just in case they forget or don't have time to do it later) with the intent of changing them later. We don't want that.

Once again, sorry for the mess-up, and thanks for your patience.

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Had one bad one.

- over James Starks - GB

Unfortunately I can't remember what player was in the group with Starks.

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Had one bad one.- over James Starks - GBUnfortunately I can't remember what player was in the group with Starks.

Had this same problem, but other than that it worked fine.

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Thanks Guys. Anyone else having bug problems?

J

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so the 'comments' section is ungraded, but if you want to leave a comment you can?

Thinking out loud since this is obviously in its gestational stages, maybe a way to add additional weight to the ones you are stronger on as opposed t just clicking and guessing. Like maybe pick 10/50 with an additional click that indicates extreme confidence (maybe like 2x pts? or something) for ones that you have more confidence in vs 'winning a coin flip on gano vs suisham for e.g. I think any weighting of picks would be too labor intensive, but say picking 10/50 that you have a higher level of confidence than others would make for some interesting data, as I would theorize the % correct among the 'sure picks' wouldn't be that much greater than the other picks. But I think it could provide some interesting perspective on how right many of us are with our assumptions. Food for thought.

Nice idea though. :thumbup: I look fwd to doing this as often as I remember :bag:

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Love the idea, but 50 is too much. I'd be happy to do a quick 20.

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Is / will there be a link to the contest somewhere on the main FBG site? I didn't see it listed under contests or MyFBG...

Where do we go to see our picks?

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Love the idea, but 50 is too much. I'd be happy to do a quick 20.

I agree with this. 50 picks a day, three days a week is not something I'm likely to keep up with over the course of the season. Caveat for the conclusions drawn from this crowdsourcing experiment: you might end up with herd mentality on at least some of these. The collected wisdom of the population of FBG subscribers is almost certainly going to reflect some biases towards FBG projections and hyped guys in the Shark Pool, etc.

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One suggestion: Since we are required to answer 150 questions a week, is there somewhere where we could see our running total for how many we've answered in the week so far? Then we would know if we can be more selective with our answers the deeper we get in the week.

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Like some others above I had a couple blanks show up in the answer confirmation page:

James Starks - GB over -

Miles Austin - DAL over -

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2nd time worked 100% perfect!

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