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Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
DGB reminds me of a Demaryius Thomas. Both considered physical freaks and both considered raw prospects.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Both had huge drawbacks too.
cstu
Footballguy
Both physical freaks - DGB arguably moreso - but DT showed much more in college, catching 8 of his team's 11 TD's for a ridiculous 25 YPR. On the field DGB never distinguished himself from undrafted receiver L'Damian Washington.
Sabertooth
Footballguy
He's going to be rusty but redshirting for a year would be brutal.
Rookie_Whisperer
Footballguy
There are fantasy football traps laid every year, and DGB is one of them. I love to see guys draft him high since it pushes good NFL talent and productive fantasy contributors down a bit.
If he and/or his presence would push Hunter that would be fantastic.
If that happens and McBride pans out, the Titans suddenly have a nice WR corps.
He could be in Hunter's rookie role and sub in for the TD lobs. They can't double everyone, he across from Hunter with Walker in the middle seems like a tough redzone group of WRs
massraider
Footballguy
TheBottomLine
Footballguy
He's more athletic than Plax IMO. I understand the comparisons but don't see how Plax is his ceiling.
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
It's not close to his ceiling. If he puts in the. Work and stays clean you have a Calvin DT type guy. He's very very talented. He just needs to stay clean and devote time to his craft. If he does many teams will regret passing and so will dynasty owners.
On the flip side he could be Plaxico in the off field sense, perhaps that's what you were referring too. That comparison makes much more sense.
buck naked
Footballguy
Burress was a very good WR. I think you guys are underrating a talented wideout on some run-based offenses. When his teams passed they often had to and was not a case of some nice smooth offense 50% run 50% pass. It was more the ground and pound didn't work so now it's 3rd and long. He's the gem, we're going to double him and take away that pass. He made some real hard catches and seemed rewarded with an easy lob TD.
Whether it be Hines Ward or any of the young Giant WRs opposite him, they were the shorter targets and efficient as can be. Big play though, they went to Plax and the D knew it, and he caught it anyway. That is wayyyy easier said than done.
I don't know how Plax would have been instead of Fitz or if he was on the Rams instead of Holt. Very different style of offense. Zero chance the stats would be comparable. He was never in an O where he could get 100 catches 1500 yards or whatnot.
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Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
DGB isn't a freak athlete. He just isn't. Why do people keep pretending otherwise?cstu said:
Run It Up
Footballguy
Wtf are you basing on this on? Hes much more athletic than his combine performance, much more. Anyone that has watched him for more than a minute can see that.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
His subpar measurables outside of height and 40 time.The "spiderweb analysis" of WR athleticism across multiple dimensions indicates he has the athleticism of an average NFL WR.
What specific measurables - other than your eyes - do you base your assessment on?
Edit to add link to his scores: http://www.mockdraftable.com/player/4796/
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these freaks are pretty common nowadays and the term freak has lost its luster
DGB is better built than Hunter, otherwise there's similarities
Here's an old Hunter article where he's compared to Green who was probably compared to...who was compared to...and it's not so freakish anymore
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1544357-2013-nfl-draft-although-overshadowed-justin-hunter-is-the-real-deal
DGB is better built than Hunter, otherwise there's similarities
Here's an old Hunter article where he's compared to Green who was probably compared to...who was compared to...and it's not so freakish anymore
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1544357-2013-nfl-draft-although-overshadowed-justin-hunter-is-the-real-deal
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Stealthycat
Footballguy
so many DGB types that have no desire to be excellent or can't stay out of drugs/alcohol ..... they are not uncommon
will DGB turn it around? history says no, probably not
will DGB turn it around? history says no, probably not
Run It Up
Footballguy
Seriously watch some tape. He doesn't look quick till you realised he's out pacing DBS smoothly with 6 inches and 50 lbs on them.
Watch him highpoint a ball then tell me his recorded 33 inch vertical is right.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Why would you try to argue about his vertical, when it has been objectively measured?
Xue
Footballguy
If DGB was a real freak, it would have shown up on paper. He's a very good athlete, but freak he is not. If DGB is a freak so is AJ Green. Calvin Johnson and Julio Jones are freaks. DGB's workout numbers are nowhere close. He's not even as freaky as Vincent Jackson.
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I agree. He may be solid, but saying he has that level of talent and that it is just the off the field issues is overstating it. I don't think he is as good as DT if he stays clean. That's a huge assumption.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
People get too caught up in wanting someone to be the next freak. He's freaky enough to be a WR1 if he develops and stays out of trouble, and that's what needs to be kept in perspective. The Calvin comparisons that followed him as a HS recruit were ridiculous then and now.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
2 years?
He took one year off of playing on gameday, which is no different from anyone who suffered a serious injury their last year in college. You know, like Gurley playing two years and then getting suspended a game, and then going down with a season-ending knee injury his first game back. Except that DGB practiced every day on the scout team, all season.
It's really not that big a deal in the big picture.
CR69
Footballguy
msudaisy26
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cstu
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Don't really see the point in putting the time into projections here before the depth chart is nailed down and preseason is well under way, at the earliest. I think well-established offenses are easier to project right now. A total toss-up offense like the Titans with so many young pieces and a rookie QB, I don't see any way you could reliably project right now.Bri said:
And that type of upside is well worth the pick he has been going at in most leagues. If someone thought he had that Calvin/Moss upside, even discounted for the knucklehead factor - shouldn't he be going top 3?
I'll delete my posts and check with you next time before I suggest people do something. You could have simply not done it, but since you didn't...
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
ShamrockPride
Footballguy
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
did they need to with Josh Gordon? Dez Bryant? Terrell Owens? Ben R?
don't confuse being a mensa candidate with being a productive football player. I don't think I'll see Cam Newton on Jeopardy any time soon but I'd gladly trot him out as my QB.
From a sports reporter friend-
Andrew Turzilli was the best WR at rookie minicamp and he said very impressed by Jarrod West.
Me googling-
Turzilli did "nothing" in college and was 133rd ranked WR entering the draft.
His pro day times, with a hamstring injury, are faster than any WR over 6-3.
He worked out with Bengals WR Sanu.
Titans signed this nobody to a three year 1.5 mil contract.
Rookie tryout guys don't usually get three year deals.
This is the perfect camp body for the Titans with questions about work ethic or attitude of DGB and JAG-big fast hungry
It doesn't seem like there's a spot for him on the roster but I guess a three year deal shows enough love so maybe give him a 1% chance.
Andrew Turzilli was the best WR at rookie minicamp and he said very impressed by Jarrod West.
Me googling-
Turzilli did "nothing" in college and was 133rd ranked WR entering the draft.
His pro day times, with a hamstring injury, are faster than any WR over 6-3.
He worked out with Bengals WR Sanu.
Titans signed this nobody to a three year 1.5 mil contract.
Rookie tryout guys don't usually get three year deals.
This is the perfect camp body for the Titans with questions about work ethic or attitude of DGB and JAG-big fast hungry
It doesn't seem like there's a spot for him on the roster but I guess a three year deal shows enough love so maybe give him a 1% chance.
Paul Kuharsky @PaulKuharskyNFL 8h8 hours ago
.@1kendallwright loves @realdgb, says wants rookie to get in shape like he had to do as rookie. Down to 225 or 230 be 'unstoppable' #Titans
.@1kendallwright loves @realdgb, says wants rookie to get in shape like he had to do as rookie. Down to 225 or 230 be 'unstoppable' #Titans
