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There's also a winged spear in the cemetery. I think the big guy is guarding it, but you should be able to grab it before he and his buddies kill you.

Yea, I cheated a bit and looked at the wiki and see the winged spear and shield. Question is, I turned around from the bonfire and went up a narrow path and killed a bunch of dudes, armored undead types. I went through a white shroud in to the next area and killed some more. That bonfre was where I was able to level up and save. Am I free to walk back to the cemetery from there to get those things? Or did I pretty much miss out? After looking at the wiki page, it amazes me how much stuff I missed in that area where the crow drops you. I mean, I thought I looked around, but I barely scratched the surface in there.

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There's also a winged spear in the cemetery. I think the big guy is guarding it, but you should be able to grab it before he and his buddies kill you.

Yea, I cheated a bit and looked at the wiki and see the winged spear and shield. Question is, I turned around from the bonfire and went up a narrow path and killed a bunch of dudes, armored undead types. I went through a white shroud in to the next area and killed some more. That bonfre was where I was able to level up and save. Am I free to walk back to the cemetery from there to get those things? Or did I pretty much miss out? After looking at the wiki page, it amazes me how much stuff I missed in that area where the crow drops you. I mean, I thought I looked around, but I barely scratched the surface in there.

You can return to any area later, even the area you began in where the crow picked you up! ;)

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There's also a winged spear in the cemetery. I think the big guy is guarding it, but you should be able to grab it before he and his buddies kill you.

Yea, I cheated a bit and looked at the wiki .

Just a nit but I would not think of it as cheating. Unlike most games, Dark Souls almost requires that you do some research while you play because so little in game information is provided.

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Yeah, cemetery is rough. I don't usually tackle those guys until I am at least level 20 or so. Definitely always suicide run in to get the claymore and winged spear first thing every game, though. :)

What? Feel free to go in to detail. I went after what I thought was a sword on a suicide run in there. Turns out it was just the sword the skeleton was going to use to kick my ###.

In the cemetery there is a shield, the Claymore and the Zweihander.

All three are decent. I used the Claymore for a bit.

My bad, by Claymore, I meant Zwiehander. Yeah, by the gravestones where the two MONSTER skeletons get up, the first one that is more to the left is the zwiehander, and the one that is more to the right is the winged spear.

Both are pretty good weapons - the winged spear has a 13 STR / 15 DEX requirement, and does fairly decent damage. Good for hiding behind a shield and poking enemies with. The Zwiehander requires like 24 STR and 10 DEX, but it is worth the effort. Once you get used to swinging that bad boy around, it does some serious damage. Just remember that it is EXTREMELY slow.

The claymore you get on the bridge where the red dragon is at. You basically have to entice him to land on the middle of the bridge, then IMMEDIATELY run past his claw and try to make it to the room that he usually stands on top of. Keep by the walls to your immediate right as you come in the room, as he will be breathing fire into the room. But after a little bit, he flies away and you are free to grab the 3 items that are on the bridge (don't stop and try and grab em as you run past...you will have all the time in the world once the dragon leaves). And don't worry...he WILL come back. So you can still use the soul-farming trick with him.

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There's also a winged spear in the cemetery. I think the big guy is guarding it, but you should be able to grab it before he and his buddies kill you.

Yea, I cheated a bit and looked at the wiki .

Just a nit but I would not think of it as cheating. Unlike most games, Dark Souls almost requires that you do some research while you play because so little in game information is provided.

:goodposting:

This game was really designed under the assumption that players would look some stuff up on the wiki. There are entire levels of the game that you would never even find on your own.

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There's also a winged spear in the cemetery. I think the big guy is guarding it, but you should be able to grab it before he and his buddies kill you.

Yea, I cheated a bit and looked at the wiki .
Just a nit but I would not think of it as cheating. Unlike most games, Dark Souls almost requires that you do some research while you play because so little in game information is provided.

:goodposting:

This game was really designed under the assumption that players would look some stuff up on the wiki. There are entire levels of the game that you would never even find on your own.

Yes - And you earn everything in this game. You can watch all the cheats you want - there is no getting out of the work to accomplish the kill.

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Yes - And you earn everything in this game. You can watch all the cheats you want - there is no getting out of the work to accomplish the kill.

Everytime I make my way to Ash Lake I get half way down there and ask myself wtf I was thinking.

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STILL stuck on Smough & Ornstein.

I've since upgraded my Black Knight Sword to +5 which is hitting for 330 +115 ATM. I deal an incredible amount of damage. I also just stumbled upon Havels set of armor so I got that going for me. I'm up to level 61 now.

I'm getting close. Clearly soloing them is the way to go.

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STILL stuck on Smough & Ornstein.

I've since upgraded my Black Knight Sword to +5 which is hitting for 330 +115 ATM. I deal an incredible amount of damage. I also just stumbled upon Havels set of armor so I got that going for me. I'm up to level 61 now.

I'm getting close. Clearly soloing them is the way to go.

Calling in Solaire helps a ton if you are struggling, if you kill Smough first Ornstein is kind of a breeze if you can duck behind pillars reliably, he gets stuck and shoots lightning bolts that can't hit you.

Side note:

Ornstein's Armor and Gloves with Giant Helm and Channelers Leggings looks absolutely sick. 41 Weight with Grass Crest Shield and Greatsword of Artorias and offhand Pyromancy Flame.

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For some reason I keep trying to find a weapon I like as much as the Black Knight Sword but I can't - it simply deals too much damage not to use.

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You can return to any area later, even the area you began in where the crow picked you up! ;)

When you say later, does that imply I just can't walk back now, and I missed out on the spear for early game use? Or next time I load (whenever that may be), I can just walk back immediately? Like I said, I just went through one shrouded area, the one where a dragon landed on a bridge and then immediately flew off after scaring the crap out of me.

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You can return to any area later, even the area you began in where the crow picked you up! ;)

When you say later, does that imply I just can't walk back now, and I missed out on the spear for early game use? Or next time I load (whenever that may be), I can just walk back immediately? Like I said, I just went through one shrouded area, the one where a dragon landed on a bridge and then immediately flew off after scaring the crap out of me.

Yes. You can always just stroll back to Firelink Shrine. You'll have to re-clear the enemies in between there and wherever you are now, but that shouldn't be a big deal.

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Oh and just an FYI - don't attack npc's unless you really want them dead - if you attack them they are forever hostile forwards you until you kill them.

I accidentally attacked the guy at fire link shrine with one of my builds and I could r get away from the dude and I wasn't powerful enough to beat him - I had to start over.

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Oh and just an FYI - don't attack npc's unless you really want them dead - if you attack them they are forever hostile forwards you until you kill them.

I accidentally attacked the guy at fire link shrine with one of my builds and I could r get away from the dude and I wasn't powerful enough to beat him - I had to start over.

Lots of people who played Demon's Souls made the mistake of accidentally attacking Stockpile Thomas -- if you sit the controller down a little too hard while facing him, you'll accidentally initiate an R2 or L2 attack. This was game-breaking because he was the guy in the nexus who stored all of your stuff. I did something similar on one playthrough unintentionally attacking one of the magic trainers, but that was nowhere near as bad a mistake as sinking 40+ hours into the game and aggo-ing the guy who was holding all your equipment.

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Yes. You can always just stroll back to Firelink Shrine. You'll have to re-clear the enemies in between there and wherever you are now, but that shouldn't be a big deal.

Cool. Wife taking a nap after an exasparating day of house hunting. I think I can sneak in a little play time.

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Ill give you a couple of vague hints....

If you're in the Undead Berg, very close by is a hidden merchant who sells bows, arrows and a pretty decent shield. He has another weapon he won't sell you...

There are two ways to get the dragon to move....

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Found a merchant. Didn't see any bows, just arrows and quills. Maybe I was doing the menu wrong. Lost about three thousand souls to the Black Night. Went down some stairs (up was the shroud to the next area) and found something scary looking. Ran away without fighting it, whatever it was. So I was at the shroud to the next boss fight. Didn't do it, saving it for later. I need to go hit that merchant up again.

Oh, I did manage to punk most of the skeletons in the cemetary. Even a giant one. Last battle I triggered one giant one and three minions. Couldn't get them to come forward one at a time, so gave up. But I think I cleared the cemetary. Now I just need to level up to use the spear. That's why losing the 3k hurt.

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Found a merchant. Didn't see any bows, just arrows and quills. Maybe I was doing the menu wrong. Lost about three thousand souls to the Black Night. Went down some stairs (up was the shroud to the next area) and found something scary looking. Ran away without fighting it, whatever it was. So I was at the shroud to the next boss fight. Didn't do it, saving it for later. I need to go hit that merchant up again.

Oh, I did manage to punk most of the skeletons in the cemetary. Even a giant one. Last battle I triggered one giant one and three minions. Couldn't get them to come forward one at a time, so gave up. But I think I cleared the cemetary. Now I just need to level up to use the spear. That's why losing the 3k hurt.

The merchant does have a bow, its a shortbow and its in the weapons tab. The guy is also a ####. Once you have everything you need from him I recommend killing him, he has a very nice weapon.

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I did it!!!! I finly beat Smough & Ornstein!!!!!

I bet it's taken me about 25-30 tries.

Now I really don't have a clue where to go next ? Ooooo - the place with the ghosts. I lowered the water a while ago but got my ### handed to me and left for the undead berg.

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That was interesting. Why did the guy from fire link shrine randomly star attacking me in New Londo?

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That was interesting. Why did the guy from fire link shrine randomly star attacking me in New Londo?

He hollowed. If you talk to him throughout the game he will keep revealing that his biggest fear is going hollow and talks about how its inevitable.

Thats the reason he never leaves the shrine is because he is afraid of death.

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That was interesting. Why did the guy from fire link shrine randomly star attacking me in New Londo?

He hollowed. If you talk to him throughout the game he will keep revealing that his biggest fear is going hollow and talks about how its inevitable.

Thats the reason he never leaves the shrine is because he is afraid of death.

Was worried I glitched hit him.

I have now placed the lord vessel and in the library. Enemies hit hard.

I'm shocked but very happy to learn that I can now warp from bonfires now!

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Ok so help me out here veterans...

RaylanGivens

Level 73

Vitality 31

Attunement 10

Endurance 23

Strength 32

Dexterity 27

Resistance 10

Intelligence 10

Faith 11

Currently rocking the Black Knight Sword+5, Havel armor set w/o is his shield.

I know pyromancy is over powered but I could never get used to how slow it is to throw a fireball so I've yet to play with anything other the fireball and my current build uses a soul arrow - only for pulling.

The whole covenant system confuses me too. I'm not sure which one I should be in or why.

Does anybody have any advice or ideas on which way I should start dumping points into? Should I just pour everything into vitality and since I hit for a ton just be a damage dealing damage absorber? It's working so far.

The return on Str & Dex costs double after 27/28 so the return is poor.

Again I know nothing about magic other then int is for sorcery and the other schools you just raise the catalyst, right?

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Ok so help me out here veterans...

RaylanGivens

Level 73

Vitality 31

Attunement 10

Endurance 23

Strength 32

Dexterity 27

Resistance 10

Intelligence 10

Faith 11

Currently rocking the Black Knight Sword+5, Havel armor set w/o is his shield.

I know pyromancy is over powered but I could never get used to how slow it is to throw a fireball so I've yet to play with anything other the fireball and my current build uses a soul arrow - only for pulling.

The whole covenant system confuses me too. I'm not sure which one I should be in or why.

Does anybody have any advice or ideas on which way I should start dumping points into? Should I just pour everything into vitality and since I hit for a ton just be a damage dealing damage absorber? It's working so far.

The return on Str & Dex costs double after 27/28 so the return is poor.

Again I know nothing about magic other then int is for sorcery and the other schools you just raise the catalyst, right?

I would have stopped investing in STR and DEX a while ago and started pouring points into END.

You reach maximum stamina at 40 END, should be a bench mark for practically every build as it also gives you 80 total burden capacity, with the Ring of Favor it will boost your burden to 96 and your max stamina to 192 (from 160 which is the soft cap)

STR and DEX scaling is great, but END provides so much more gives survivability by allowing for better dodge as well as the ability to wear better armors, there is also an offensive advantage in that you get more attacks before having to recover.

In general, benchmarks for characters to attain:

-40 End

-15 Res (only if you are having trouble, none if you aren't)

-40 Dex if you are going for scaling (enough to equip your weapon of choice if you aren't)

-40 Str if you are going for scaling (enough to equip your weapon of choice if you aren't)

-50 Int if you are going for spells (none if you are not)

-50 Fai if you are going for miracles (none if you are not)

-Rest into vitality.

The importance of weight class can't be overstated, if your equip burden is less than 25% of the cap you will walk and run much faster and be able to roll incredibly quickly as well as recover. If your burden is less than 50% of the cap but above 25% you will walk and run average speeds and roll much slower. +50%-99% should never be done, your asking to get wrecked by even common enemies, +100% is only good for certain builds that use iron skin and in general are absolutely horrible to play.

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Ok so help me out here veterans...

RaylanGivens

Level 73

Vitality 31

Attunement 10

Endurance 23

Strength 32

Dexterity 27

Resistance 10

Intelligence 10

Faith 11

Currently rocking the Black Knight Sword+5, Havel armor set w/o is his shield.

I know pyromancy is over powered but I could never get used to how slow it is to throw a fireball so I've yet to play with anything other the fireball and my current build uses a soul arrow - only for pulling.

The whole covenant system confuses me too. I'm not sure which one I should be in or why.

Does anybody have any advice or ideas on which way I should start dumping points into? Should I just pour everything into vitality and since I hit for a ton just be a damage dealing damage absorber? It's working so far.

The return on Str & Dex costs double after 27/28 so the return is poor.

Again I know nothing about magic other then int is for sorcery and the other schools you just raise the catalyst, right?

I would have stopped investing in STR and DEX a while ago and started pouring points into END.

You reach maximum stamina at 40 END, should be a bench mark for practically every build as it also gives you 80 total burden capacity, with the Ring of Favor it will boost your burden to 96 and your max stamina to 192 (from 160 which is the soft cap)

STR and DEX scaling is great, but END provides so much more gives survivability by allowing for better dodge as well as the ability to wear better armors, there is also an offensive advantage in that you get more attacks before having to recover.

In general, benchmarks for characters to attain:

-40 End

-15 Res (only if you are having trouble, none if you aren't)

-40 Dex if you are going for scaling (enough to equip your weapon of choice if you aren't)

-40 Str if you are going for scaling (enough to equip your weapon of choice if you aren't)

-50 Int if you are going for spells (none if you are not)

-50 Fai if you are going for miracles (none if you are not)

-Rest into vitality.

The importance of weight class can't be overstated, if your equip burden is less than 25% of the cap you will walk and run much faster and be able to roll incredibly quickly as well as recover. If your burden is less than 50% of the cap but above 25% you will walk and run average speeds and roll much slower. +50%-99% should never be done, your asking to get wrecked by even common enemies, +100% is only good for certain builds that use iron skin and in general are absolutely horrible to play.

Ill get on it Hoss!

I murder everything in just a few hits so manuverbility hasn't been an issue yet. It would be nice to fun faster.

Edited by STEADYMOBBIN 22

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I wanted to add that I only took Dex that high because my I was he'll bent on getting the Great Sythe because I've heard how bad ### it is.

I went through hell and back VERY early in the game to get that thing and it sucks donkey nuts. I have it at +5 fire is it still hits for under 200.

All I read about the Black Knight Sword is how it's not that good and so many other weapons are better. :bs:

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Actually took a day off from house hunting and turned my PS3 on today. Wow was I rusty! Died a ton in the Undead Burg but then warmed up. Got my skills up so I could use the Winged Spear and started tearing it up a bit. Killed the Black Knight (though I lost 3700 souls when I died to him and didn't make it back). Sword is useless to me but still, I killed him! Then I went threw the shroud and killed the Taurus Demon on only my second try. Went ot the merchant and got a bow, though I have yet to use it. So, I haven't really donemuch int he game. But for the most part, I am enjoying it and haven't really minded gettng killed yet. As some of yu have said, each time I die, I realized what I did wrong and that it was my fault.

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Actually took a day off from house hunting and turned my PS3 on today. Wow was I rusty! Died a ton in the Undead Burg but then warmed up. Got my skills up so I could use the Winged Spear and started tearing it up a bit. Killed the Black Knight (though I lost 3700 souls when I died to him and didn't make it back). Sword is useless to me but still, I killed him! Then I went threw the shroud and killed the Taurus Demon on only my second try. Went ot the merchant and got a bow, though I have yet to use it. So, I haven't really donemuch int he game. But for the most part, I am enjoying it and haven't really minded gettng killed yet. As some of yu have said, each time I die, I realized what I did wrong and that it was my fault.

:thumbup:

Yea, that dude at the bottom of those stair near where you fought the Black Knight - Likely gonna be awhile before you can beat him.

The Merchant does sell bows - which reminds me....

Bows can be aimed (RB draws the bow - LB goes to first person view).

Crossbows cannot be aimed. (Uses bolts, not arrows)

HINT - You can get a lot of cool weapons in this game by chopping off the tails of bosses. There are two ways to get the tail (and a really cool item) from that red dragon, but one of the methods is pretty underhanded. :whistle:

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Oh - I found Frampt the other day. Pretty freaking weird. - I love this game. Might rank above Bioshock. :jawdrop:

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I second the recommendation to get all builds up to 40 END. That's my very first priority for every character.

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So, still very early on for me. Just made it to whatever area comes after the Undead Berg. Just wondering, I have some resins and stuff for upgrading weapons. When do I get to use them? I tried equiping and using them but that doesn't work. So I am assuming I need to find someone or something to do the upgrades?

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So, still very early on for me. Just made it to whatever area comes after the Undead Berg. Just wondering, I have some resins and stuff for upgrading weapons. When do I get to use them? I tried equiping and using them but that doesn't work. So I am assuming I need to find someone or something to do the upgrades?

Try this link. It gives a good run down on upgrading both weapons and armor

http://darksoulswiki.wikispaces.com/Upgrades

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I second the recommendation to get all builds up to 40 END. That's my very first priority for every character.

Despite making through many many tough areas and bosses I rerolled. I realized by raising both my str and dex to almost 40 I was crippling my character. Having an extra 30-50 points to distribute elsewhere was to much to pass up.

I've got a ways to go to catch up to my old toon but I'm rolling along and even Blightown has been (kinda) easy.

I ####### love this game.

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It's been probably three weeks now since my PS3 was turned on. I fear by the time I get back to the game, I'll be forced to start over. I won't remember anything. :-(

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It's been probably three weeks now since my PS3 was turned on. I fear by the time I get back to the game, I'll be forced to start over. I won't remember anything. :-(

It wont be the first time that you have to do that.

I'm almost back to where I was in my original character who logged a whopping 89 hours. My new guys time? 13 hours.

Somebody else said it earlier but you'll be shocked at how "easy" the game is once you know what you're doing.

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So I planned on tinkering with Sorcery so I rolled a noob to check out the spells- HOLY overpowered batman.

With only 23 Int I can dole out 30 shots at 133 per, from a distance.

The next spell up hits for nearly 300. :eek:

Sure it's boring as hell to spam the soul arrow but shocked here.

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Finally got to turn the PS3 on for the first time in over a month. As expected, I started a new character, figuring I would play it long enough to remember controls, then go back to my other character. Well, in about three hours, I was caught up. VERY early in the game. Killed the Taurus Demon first try this round, and just took out some armor plated bull thing. That's as far as I got. But was nice to play again. Unfortunately, that's probably it until next weekend. This whole new job, new place to live thing has pretty much robbed me of my weekday play time. Will take me forever to get through a game anymore.

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