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According to JS's link, Tim Curley and/or Schultz would become the mandatory reporter, no?ETA: my point with the student was that nothing should have prevented him from simply going to the police.
Even the losers, get lucky sometimes/petty
You are failing to grasp the difference between what you are mandated to do and what you are able to do.Let me give you a comparison.If I found out that our former youth pastor, who is now a volunteer, is molesting one of our kids, I would take that information to our senior pastor. At that point, it would become mandatory for him to report this information.But that doesn't mean that I still can't go to the police on my own and report what I know. And you can be certain that if I'm not sure that he went to the police, I'm going to them.ETA: I'm talking about Paterno here.
How do we know he didn't go to the Police? Remember, Schultz, the other guy accused of perjury, is the head of the University Police Department and this happened on University property, not in State College. Maybe Paterno made sure Schultz was told by him. That's pretty much going to the top. I still want (and hope) to hear that someone lied to JoePa and said it was a joke or a mistake or something. We'll see.
Id rule out joke, GB
Well sure, but I guess I mean they someway convince him that nothing is wrong. Anyway, good night.
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I wish I could just forget everything and be excited again.
I hear ya. As the day goes on and I read more, I find it harder to focus on the season without wondering what the future holds for university and the program. Perhaps I hd my head in the clouds when I posted what I did earlier this morning.
what really makes me mad is it is senior day, and the last home game for our seniors- it should be a memory they can have for the rest of their lives- not overshadowed by sick bastards.. I will attend the game for no other reason than to cheer for each one of these seniors.
this shouldn't be funny.. but I am
i laughed too...this shouldn't be funny.. but I am
if my son was playing football there i would hope he would quit and transfer. does nothing to help the kids who were harmed, but at least shows some dignity of taking a stand against the institution you represent and the culture of child molestation that exists there.hopefully joe pa will be on the sidelines and takes an inadvertant hit by a linebacker.
I wouldn't want my son to quit in the face of adversity. The players, fans, and even some of the staff did nothing wrong. I would want my child to honor his commitment and stay and play. The justice system will take care of those that need to account for the bad that has happened there. I think there is a lot more good at Penn State than there is bad, and I would hope my son would have the character to help turn that bad back into good.
How dignifying of you'bagger said:
Every one of these same rumors were circulating in Columbus in the last few months. I wouldn't put much stock in any of them.
Good to know. This is why I come to the FFA.
Give sPitt credit, the minute they found out their new head coach was an alleged wife beater, he was GONE. Oh that PSU could've done the same.
I think that would have been the issue regardless. HoF coaches set a high standard for the next guy...that he often fails to reach.
at this point, I think people will be happy with a rape-free locker room and won't care much about the football team.
I understand what you are saying but if I'm Urban Meyer and this scandal never happened - I don't worry about replacing Paterno. I've won as many NCAA Championships in 10 years as JoePa did in 45. I certainly won't be intimidated by the legend of Paterno.But now? That's changed. Why would I want to walk into this mess? How am I going to recruit? What's will the fans be like? I'm going to have a MASSIVE trial going on just down the street. Who wants this?
I would. Outside of a year here and there, PSU hasnt been an elite program since the early-mid 90's. If youre a coach like Meyer and come in now, not only do you get credit for returning PSU to an elite program, but turning it around after this hellish scandal.
Pretty sure the trial isnt going on right down the street. Ive been in the State College court room, it could hold like 20 people. Since the PA attorney general is involved, I would assume the trial will be in Harrisburg.
Indeed. If not Meyer, someone else will leap at it. What exactly are the long term ramifications? The dumbasses leave and somebody new comes in and starts grabbing great football players out of Pennsylvania again.
Why wouldn't the great players go to Pitt or a top out-of-state school rather than going to Creepy Valley? I don't think this will be that easy to turn around.Indeed. If not Meyer, someone else will leap at it. What exactly are the long term ramifications? The dumbasses leave and somebody new comes in and starts grabbing great football players out of Pennsylvania again.
Is there any other coach near as good as Meyer that would take this job though (coaching right now or not)? Other coaches whose names have been thrown around in previous years are Golden, Schiano, Ferentz. I dont think any of those guys would make PSU elite again, but Meyer would almost certainly.Indeed. If not Meyer, someone else will leap at it. What exactly are the long term ramifications? The dumbasses leave and somebody new comes in and starts grabbing great football players out of Pennsylvania again.
Yeah, reading that first post now is strange. My favorite line:
More like "Year of Destiny" as these circumstances appear to be what it finally took to get Paterno out of the program.
To be honest, I just don't think I'd want my name associated with Penn State. No offense to fans/alumni. But on top of the recruiting difficulties there would be - I would just stay clear of Penn State altogether if I were Meyer.Indeed. If not Meyer, someone else will leap at it. What exactly are the long term ramifications? The dumbasses leave and somebody new comes in and starts grabbing great football players out of Pennsylvania again.
Does anyone believe that this is a deeply embedded institutional problem at Penn State? Maybe you're right and there are a lot of dumb people who do. I don't think this stuff sticks to institutions as tightly as the media hyperventilators would have us believe.Why wouldn't the great players go to Pitt or a top out-of-state school rather than going to Creepy Valley? I don't think this will be that easy to turn around.Indeed. If not Meyer, someone else will leap at it. What exactly are the long term ramifications? The dumbasses leave and somebody new comes in and starts grabbing great football players out of Pennsylvania again.
They've found the bad guys, who are leaving. What's the worry?To be honest, I just don't think I'd want my name associated with Penn State. No offense to fans/alumni. But on top of the recruiting difficulties there would be - I would just stay clear of Penn State altogether if I were Meyer.Indeed. If not Meyer, someone else will leap at it. What exactly are the long term ramifications? The dumbasses leave and somebody new comes in and starts grabbing great football players out of Pennsylvania again.
I think for the foreseeable future, people will associate Penn State football with child molestation. If I'm a high school senior being recruited by multiple schools, that's enough to send me elsewhere.
Really? Its not like the entire coaching staff were running a train on little boys. 1 sick person was, and someone who hasnt even been coaching for them for over a decade. Once Paterno is gone and the trial is over, I dont see this scandal as something that makes recruits go elsewhere. PSU will always have a great town in State College, Beaver stadium, and smoking hot coeds.
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