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Ok watched episode number 2 tonight! I can't understand a ####### thing other than the poker scenes. The dialogue between Hoffman and his chauffeur is incomprehensible! I want to like the show but the ####### dialogue with the guy from Peru and his accent, and the Irish lady jockey and her accent, and the other jockey who is foreign. And, I know Nick Nolte has a gravely voice, but did he have a stroke? And the stuttering jockey agent guy!

Oh, almost left out the crippled lady from Deadwood is now a character. Even with her paralysis, and speech impediment she can somewhat be understood.

Anyway I think it was a good episode!

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2nd episode? Didnt it premiere tonight?

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2nd episode? Didnt it premiere tonight?

hbo.go 2nd ep

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2nd episode? Didnt it premiere tonight?

hbo.go 2nd ep
So your telling me that it will debut on HBO next week...... after a two month tease...... during the super bowl?WTF is that?

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2nd episode? Didnt it premiere tonight?

hbo.go 2nd ep
So your telling me that it will debut on HBO next week...... after a two month tease...... during the super bowl?WTF is that?
I dunno? But, you can watch it online now. Bring a translator.

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Can we get some ####### subtitles for this show!! WTF is everyone saying? I will have to watch the episode over in CC to see if I even like it. OOF

Ditto! I couldn't understand a frigging thing half the time. My wife has excellent hearing and she said they are mumbling a lot. I watched the repeat and still miss stuff. I like it and the concept, but if I can't hear it. The hell with it or cc from now on.

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2nd episode? Didnt it premiere tonight?

hbo.go 2nd ep

So your telling me that it will debut on HBO next week...... after a two month tease...... during the super bowl?

WTF is that?

I dunno? But, you can watch it online now. Bring a translator.
:lmao:

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2nd episode? Didnt it premiere tonight?

hbo.go 2nd ep
So your telling me that it will debut on HBO next week...... after a two month tease...... during the super bowl?WTF is that?
Good point.As far as I can tell, tonights episode was the "preview" they aired a couple months ago.

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If they just showed the same episode again, SHZINITT must have lost his mind because he's commented on them both

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Thought it was just me with the mumbling, had my wife turn it up more than once. I'm into horse racing (just got back from 2 days of playing 6 tracks in Vegas). Trying to make it real. Showing the degenerate gamblers, issues on the backside with trainers, jockies, even showing a horse breaking down (tough to watch). Still betting that Milch will get this right..

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It's going to be tricky early on for anybody not familiar with horse racing, even though they tried to spoon-feed most of the jargon. This was my second time seeing the pilot, this time with cc, and with a couple quick rewinds I'm pretty sure I got everything. The dialogue is dense, but no more so than Deadwood was.

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It's going to be tricky early on for anybody not familiar with horse racing, even though they tried to spoon-feed most of the jargon. This was my second time seeing the pilot, this time with cc, and with a couple quick rewinds I'm pretty sure I got everything. The dialogue is dense, but no more so than Deadwood was.

The degenerate gamblers are the only ones I understood.

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It's going to be tricky early on for anybody not familiar with horse racing, even though they tried to spoon-feed most of the jargon. This was my second time seeing the pilot, this time with cc, and with a couple quick rewinds I'm pretty sure I got everything. The dialogue is dense, but no more so than Deadwood was.

The degenerate gamblers are the only ones I understood.
In that case I'm all in.

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So it was only a repeat of the pilot 3 times in a row?

Just in case nobody understood it the first 2 times.

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So let me see if I got all the characters from the pilot right so far. Ill double check with wikipedia later.

Hoffman- Just got out of jail, not sure why he was in there but apparently took the fall for someone. He wants to open up a casino either in place of or attached to the track? His 2nd in command owns a horse at Hoffman's bidding and doesnt know or care about horse racing.

Farina- Second in command, owns Hoffmans horse as a front.

Spanish guy- old time horse trainer training Farina's horse and another horse. Apparently, he placed bets on his horse and never told anyone?

Androgyenous male jockey- new jockey for Spanish guy. Hes a hotshot. Also jockey of another horse who breaks his leg.

Kind- stuttering agent of male jockey? I think

Other old guy with Kind- was he another one of Kind's jockeys? Probably just a minor character

Irish girl jockey- rides Nolte's horse, for some reason has a connection with male jockey, its unclear why or if they even know eachother

Nolte- grizzled veteran horse trainer, apparently has a REALLY good horse.

Hennessey- veterenarian.

Gamblers- Jerry has a system but hes an addict, guy in wheelchair kind of runs the operation, guy with mustache along for the ride. They bring in a 4th guy to help with the bankroll. Dumb question #1: Why did they need such a huge bankroll to bet the Pick 6? Do you have to select the Pick 6 all up front and those were all the combinations? Anyway, they won the Pick 6 and 2.6 mil and now plan to keep quiet until they can figure out IRS angle.

Guard- Jerry gives him tip for some cash but he stupidly doesnt place the wager.

I think thats it off the top of my head.

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So let me see if I got all the characters from the pilot right so far. Ill double check with wikipedia later.Hoffman- Just got out of jail, not sure why he was in there but apparently took the fall for someone. He wants to open up a casino either in place of or attached to the track? His 2nd in command owns a horse at Hoffman's bidding and doesnt know or care about horse racing.Farina- Second in command, owns Hoffmans horse as a front.Spanish guy- old time horse trainer training Farina's horse and another horse. Apparently, he placed bets on his horse and never told anyone?Androgyenous male jockey- new jockey for Spanish guy. Hes a hotshot. Also jockey of another horse who breaks his leg.Kind- stuttering agent of male jockey? I thinkOther old guy with Kind- was he another one of Kind's jockeys? Probably just a minor characterIrish girl jockey- rides Nolte's horse, for some reason has a connection with male jockey, its unclear why or if they even know eachotherNolte- grizzled veteran horse trainer, apparently has a REALLY good horse.Hennessey- veterenarian.Gamblers- Jerry has a system but hes an addict, guy in wheelchair kind of runs the operation, guy with mustache along for the ride. They bring in a 4th guy to help with the bankroll. Dumb question #1: Why did they need such a huge bankroll to bet the Pick 6? Do you have to select the Pick 6 all up front and those were all the combinations? Anyway, they won the Pick 6 and 2.6 mil and now plan to keep quiet until they can figure out IRS angle.Guard- Jerry gives him tip for some cash but he stupidly doesnt place the wager.I think thats it off the top of my head.

Looks right to me.I liked it enough. Don't know why everyone was having a problem understanding them :shrug:

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Pick 6 is a $2 wager per combination and yes you need to pick all 6 races prior to the first leg

So combinations gets expensive fast

For example

Just picking 3 horses in each race (81 possible outcomes) is $162

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That's about right. And yes, you have to bet the pick six before the first applicable race goes off and it is so expensive because of all the possible combinations when you involve multiple horses any of the races.

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Pick 6 is a $2 wager per combination and yes you need to pick all 6 races prior to the first legSo combinations gets expensive fastFor exampleJust picking 3 horses in each race (81 possible outcomes) is $162

Actually, 3 horses in each race is 729 possible outcomes and would be $1458.

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Pick 6 is a $2 wager per combination and yes you need to pick all 6 races prior to the first legSo combinations gets expensive fastFor exampleJust picking 3 horses in each race (81 possible outcomes) is $162

Actually, 3 horses in each race is 729 possible outcomes and would be $1458.
Right. Biggest reason most "average" bettors don't bet them.

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Oops

Bad maths on my part today

I thought that seemed low

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OopsBad maths on my part todayI thought that seemed low

Like me, it seems like you are more of a pick 4 player.

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OopsBad maths on my part todayI thought that seemed low

Like me, it seems like you are more of a pick 4 player.
Yeah love me some p4'sWill occasionally partner up and chase a $0.50 P5

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Boy, HBO's putting on the full court press for this one. The pilot was on HBO at 7, 8 & 9 last night. It's on HBO, HBO Signature and HBO Zone at 8 tonight. And it's on HBO2 at 7, 8 & 9 tonight.

I've never seen them push one of their Sunday night shows this hard. What're the odds HBO doesn't have much faith that it's going to grab enough of its regular Sunday night series viewers?

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Boy, HBO's putting on the full court press for this one. The pilot was on HBO at 7, 8 & 9 last night. It's on HBO, HBO Signature and HBO Zone at 8 tonight. And it's on HBO2 at 7, 8 & 9 tonight.I've never seen them push one of their Sunday night shows this hard. What're the odds HBO doesn't have much faith that it's going to grab enough of its regular Sunday night series viewers?

:goodposting: Also showed a bunch of previews for the entire season. I am guessing they are heavily invested given the names in the show.

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Boy, HBO's putting on the full court press for this one. The pilot was on HBO at 7, 8 & 9 last night. It's on HBO, HBO Signature and HBO Zone at 8 tonight. And it's on HBO2 at 7, 8 & 9 tonight.I've never seen them push one of their Sunday night shows this hard. What're the odds HBO doesn't have much faith that it's going to grab enough of its regular Sunday night series viewers?

:goodposting: Also showed a bunch of previews for the entire season. I am guessing they are heavily invested given the names in the show.
Im a big hbo series guy and a gambler (although not horses) and after watching the pilot i am pretty uninterested. I just hope the money they lose on this doesnt impact Thrones or Boardwalk.

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Boy, HBO's putting on the full court press for this one. The pilot was on HBO at 7, 8 & 9 last night. It's on HBO, HBO Signature and HBO Zone at 8 tonight. And it's on HBO2 at 7, 8 & 9 tonight.I've never seen them push one of their Sunday night shows this hard. What're the odds HBO doesn't have much faith that it's going to grab enough of its regular Sunday night series viewers?

:goodposting: Also showed a bunch of previews for the entire season. I am guessing they are heavily invested given the names in the show.
:goodposting: I think HBO knows they are in trouble with this show. I see a lot more JFC then Deadwood in this so far. Fact of the matter is HBO needs something because all they really have going right now is Thrones and Boardwalk.

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Boy, HBO's putting on the full court press for this one. The pilot was on HBO at 7, 8 & 9 last night. It's on HBO, HBO Signature and HBO Zone at 8 tonight. And it's on HBO2 at 7, 8 & 9 tonight.I've never seen them push one of their Sunday night shows this hard. What're the odds HBO doesn't have much faith that it's going to grab enough of its regular Sunday night series viewers?

:goodposting: Also showed a bunch of previews for the entire season. I am guessing they are heavily invested given the names in the show.
:goodposting: I think HBO knows they are in trouble with this show. I see a lot more JFC then Deadwood in this so far. Fact of the matter is HBO needs something because all they really have going right now is Thrones and Boardwalk.
But those are the 2 best shows on tv so

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Other old guy with Kind- was he another one of Kind's jockeys? Probably just a minor character

That was Gary Stevens - so he may not be a minor character.

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The show started off very slow but after the pilot when they showed the season preview it looked intense and full of action. I really think that this show has potential to be good.

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Boy, HBO's putting on the full court press for this one. The pilot was on HBO at 7, 8 & 9 last night. It's on HBO, HBO Signature and HBO Zone at 8 tonight. And it's on HBO2 at 7, 8 & 9 tonight.I've never seen them push one of their Sunday night shows this hard. What're the odds HBO doesn't have much faith that it's going to grab enough of its regular Sunday night series viewers?

:goodposting: Also showed a bunch of previews for the entire season. I am guessing they are heavily invested given the names in the show.
:goodposting: I think HBO knows they are in trouble with this show. I see a lot more JFC then Deadwood in this so far. Fact of the matter is HBO needs something because all they really have going right now is Thrones and Boardwalk.
Curb and Eastbound....down?!

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Santa Anita may be the most idyllic track setting in the world ... they should've centered this around the Aqueduct winter "inner track" meet ... now THAT is about as degenerate/down and dirty as it gets at the track, folks :boxing:

That being said, I thought the pilot was decent ... there is no "bettor" live sports venue than the track. Love it. :wub:

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So let me see if I got all the characters from the pilot right so far. Ill double check with wikipedia later.Hoffman- Just got out of jail, not sure why he was in there but apparently took the fall for someone. He wants to open up a casino either in place of or attached to the track? His 2nd in command owns a horse at Hoffman's bidding and doesnt know or care about horse racing.Farina- Second in command, owns Hoffmans horse as a front.Spanish guy- old time horse trainer training Farina's horse and another horse. Apparently, he placed bets on his horse and never told anyone?Androgyenous male jockey- new jockey for Spanish guy. Hes a hotshot. Also jockey of another horse who breaks his leg.Kind- stuttering agent of male jockey? I thinkOther old guy with Kind- was he another one of Kind's jockeys? Probably just a minor characterIrish girl jockey- rides Nolte's horse, for some reason has a connection with male jockey, its unclear why or if they even know eachotherNolte- grizzled veteran horse trainer, apparently has a REALLY good horse.Hennessey- veterenarian.Gamblers- Jerry has a system but hes an addict, guy in wheelchair kind of runs the operation, guy with mustache along for the ride. They bring in a 4th guy to help with the bankroll. Dumb question #1: Why did they need such a huge bankroll to bet the Pick 6? Do you have to select the Pick 6 all up front and those were all the combinations? Anyway, they won the Pick 6 and 2.6 mil and now plan to keep quiet until they can figure out IRS angle.Guard- Jerry gives him tip for some cash but he stupidly doesnt place the wager.I think thats it off the top of my head.

Looks right to me.I liked it enough. Don't know why everyone was having a problem understanding them :shrug:
I had some problems in the 1st episode, but no issues whatsoever with the 2nd episode. After 2 episodes, I'm in.

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I thought this show was horrible. Way too much going on and too many little side plots. I will give it another couple shows but it doesnt look promising as it stands today.

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I thought this show was horrible. Way too much going on and too many little side plots. I will give it another couple shows but it doesnt look promising as it stands today.

I disagree and feel it's pretty easy to follow, so can you unpack this a little bit?

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