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Detroit Lions 2016: Well at least we have cheerleaders..

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First line of business is Cliff Avril. Sign him long term? Franchise? Or let him walk? Cliff had 11 sacks last season, but did benefit from having doubles on Suh. If the Lions sign Avril to a long term deal there will be lots of cash invested in the d-line. Someone else may have to go. http://www.freep.com/article/20120224/SPORTS01/120224013/Detroit-Lions-Cliff-Avril-negotiation

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Have to get the extension done with Calvin this off-season.

Luke warm on franchising Cliff Avril.

Rumors of Burleson and Corey Williams getting cut.

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Have to get the extension done with Calvin this off-season.

Luke warm on franchising Cliff Avril.

Rumors of Burleson and Corey Williams getting cut.

Calvin, Titus & the 2 TE's might be their base offense next year, they could use Nate's money elsewhere.

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If Avril stays Vanden Bosch may have to go. Suh, Avril and Fairley will be eating up a good chunk of cash on the d-line.

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What kind of contract is Calvin seeking, Larry Fitzgerald-esque+?

Calvin will get whatever the hell he wants.

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Looking like Backus will be back, would hate to lose Tulloch. Also heard on the radio yesterday that Calvin is ready to get a new deal done ASAP to help with cap space.

The Lions met with the agent for Backus at the NFL Scouting Combine, who described the general discussion as positive, according to the Detroit Free Press. Backus has been a mainstay at left tackle for 11 seasons, starting a team-record 176 straight games.

Tulloch started all 16 games in his first season in Detroit. According to ProFootballTalk.com, the Lions are still talking to Tulloch's representatives but the sides are not close to getting a deal done.

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What kind of contract is Calvin seeking, Larry Fitzgerald-esque+?

Bigger. If he plays out this year and is franchised the next 2,he will have made what Fitzgerald got guaranteed in just 3 years. He is holding all the bargaining chips.

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Lions priorities:

1. Sign Calvin to a long term deal that hopefully doesn't cripple the franchise

2. Re-sign Backus. The price is right. To upgrade the LT position would require too much $$$.

3. Sign Tulloch over Avril. I like Avril, but the guy is a bit overvalued right now. He had a great season and can really rush the passer, but I think he benefits a lot from defenses focusing on blocking the middle. In addition, I think Lawrence Jackson and Willie Young could do an alight job replacing Avril. We don't have any depth at LB and would be painted into a corner with FA/draft as we would have to get a LB.

The Detroit News is reporting Avril is likely to be franchised Monday. As for cutting veteran to free up money, I like Burleson and Corey Williams, but with Titus Young, Sammie Lee Hill, and Nick Fairley there is room to part ways with those guys and reinvest that money into the secondary.

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Avril will go to the highest bidder, so I think it's time to say goodbye. We have 3 #1 or 2 picks that need to be resigned in the next 2 years and all three will command top $$. It will be easier to find a replacement for Avril than Suh, Calvin and Stafford.

What makes these 3 unique is that their rookie contracts are close to what the top rookies now expect to get in their second contract under the new labor agreement. Suh, Stafford and Calvin will expect raises from their already inflated contracts. If the Lions hope to keep all 3, they have very tough decisions to make and it starts now with Avril. They may franchise him, but I doubt a long term deal gets done. Unless they dont expect to resign Suh, or they expect to build around a lot of veteran minimum contracts at other key positions like OT and CB.

I'm no Cap expert, so I'm probably oversimplifying the situation, but It appears Lewand and Mayhew have their work cut out for them.

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Avril will go to the highest bidder, so I think it's time to say goodbye. We have 3 #1 or 2 picks that need to be resigned in the next 2 years and all three will command top $$. It will be easier to find a replacement for Avril than Suh, Calvin and Stafford. What makes these 3 unique is that their rookie contracts are close to what the top rookies now expect to get in their second contract under the new labor agreement. Suh, Stafford and Calvin will expect raises from their already inflated contracts. If the Lions hope to keep all 3, they have very tough decisions to make and it starts now with Avril. They may franchise him, but I doubt a long term deal gets done. Unless they dont expect to resign Suh, or they expect to build around a lot of veteran minimum contracts at other key positions like OT and CB.I'm no Cap expert, so I'm probably oversimplifying the situation, but It appears Lewand and Mayhew have their work cut out for them.

Stafford signed a 6 year rookie deal, Suh was signed for 5 years. So they both have three years left before their deals are up.

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Any chance Det could manipulate the cap and sign Nicks, G from NO?

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Any chance Det could manipulate the cap and sign Nicks, G from NO?

Would be great - just dont see it happening. They have not put a lot of emphasis on the oline over the years and I do not see that changing dramatically. Signing Tulloch will be key. Letting Avril walk is also key - would hate to see them ink him to a huge deal. I think any mediocre talent can benefit from the beef on the inside of the line - on top of that he is a liability versus the run.

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Cliff should go. He is not worth the price. The line makes him better, he doesn't make the line better.

Need to sign Calvin so we know how much money we got. Then Bring back Backus and Tully.

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Any chance Det could manipulate the cap and sign Nicks, G from NO?

Would be great - just dont see it happening. They have not put a lot of emphasis on the oline over the years and I do not see that changing dramatically. Signing Tulloch will be key. Letting Avril walk is also key - would hate to see them ink him to a huge deal. I think any mediocre talent can benefit from the beef on the inside of the line - on top of that he is a liability versus the run.
I think they are going to try and re-sign Avril, I totally agree that Tulloch should be a priority over Avril.

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What does the RB situation look like? Any chance that Kevin Smith will be the starter in the motor city next season?

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Interesting piece on Calvin's contracthttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/06/megatrons-mega-contract-looms-large-for-lions/

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will cortlan finnegan be too expensive?

I think so. The general feeling is that the Lions aren't going to be adding any big name players in FA. The focus is on retaining Tulloch and resigning Calvin to a long term contract that doesn't blow the budget.

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will cortlan finnegan be too expensive?

I think so. The general feeling is that the Lions aren't going to be adding any big name players in FA. The focus is on retaining Tulloch and resigning Calvin to a long term contract that doesn't blow the budget.
Just heard on the radio that the Lions are eyeballing RBs Mike Tolbert and Justin Forsett if the price is right.At this point not sure that Best or LaShoure can be counted on for next season.

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Megatron signs an extension 7 more yearshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/14/lions-plan-to-announce-megatron-mega-extension-today/

Thats huge for the Lions, now they can get their FA moves started

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Holy smokes. 7 years $132M with $60M guaranteed!!!

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Megatron signs an extension 7 more yearshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/14/lions-plan-to-announce-megatron-mega-extension-today/

Thats huge for the Lions, now they can get their FA moves started
:pickle: Great move that had to get done this off-season. This should assure that the NFLs best WR will play his whole career as a Detroit Lion. Edited by Da Guru

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Megatron signs an extension 7 more yearshttp://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/03/14/lions-plan-to-announce-megatron-mega-extension-today/

Thats huge for the Lions, now they can get their FA moves started
:pickle: Great move that had to get done this off-season. This should assure that the NFLs best WR will play his whole career as a Detroit Lion.
I keep reading, not in this thread, that no WR is worth that kind of money and the Lions made a mistake by making that kind of long term commitment. All I can say is, they must have a short memory or they didn't see any Lions games this last season! I say great deal!!! It was #1 on my list of things I wanted to see happen this offseason and I'm glad it has been taken care of. Even if it means that in a few years they will be in cap hell and be forced to start over again. I still will get three years of incredibly, amazing, fun #### to watch on Sunday's! :popcorn:

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Locking up Calvin at any price was a must for this team. I don't like the Avril move as I think they could have let him walk and used that money on a veteran corner. I am concerned Tulloch will be leaving for the highest bidder.

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Isn't Jeff Backus a UFA as well?

Yep

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Just heard on The Ticket that the Lions are working out Ted Ginn Jr. Must be for the return game. Can`t see TG2 contributing much at WR.

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I think Detroit is really going to have to find some instant above-average contributors in the draft (particularly on defense) in order to match last years success. They are stretching themselves with the Calvin signing/Avril franchise and will be challenged to add quality starters via free agency. This problem gets amplified if they cannot get Tulloch to stay.

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Isn't Jeff Backus a UFA as well?

Yep
What happens at LT then?
they Brought in Marcus McNeil for a visit.

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Isn't Jeff Backus a UFA as well?

Yep
What happens at LT then?
they Brought in Marcus McNeil for a visit.
TG2 left without getting a contract so the Lions will be looking to add one more depth WR.

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TG2 left without getting a contract so the Lions will be looking to add one more depth WR.

Still some hope for Ted Ginn, who I think would really upgrade the return game and make the offense even more potent. Per the freep:“I enjoyed myself here today,” Ginn said. “A great group of coaches all the way around. As far as a commitment, it’s just a little early right now. I’m going to see my options, but I like the Lions.”Ginn, who played the last two years with the San Francisco 49ers after starting his career with the Miami Dolphins, said he doesn’t know of any other visits he has scheduled, but he plans “to take it slow, take my time and just stick with it.”After playing primarily as a return specialist through his first five NFL seasons, Ginn said he’s looking for a team that will utilize him more as a receiver.The Lions like Ginn’s deep speed and would slot him as their No. 4 receiver, behind Calvin Johnson, Nate Burleson and Titus Young. He likely also would handle return duties.“I want to be known as a receiver, not a specialist guy, not a punt returner, kickoff returner,” Ginn said. “I want to be known as an actual receiver, and that was some of the things that they expressed in here for me today that I enjoyed.“I’m six years in now. I just want to be able to just be a receiver, and special teams is given.”Ginn started three games at receiver for the 49ers last year and had 19 catches for 220 yards. The former Ohio State standout also returned a punt and kick for touchdowns last season, but ankle and knee injuries kept him out of the NFC championship game.The 49ers lost to the New York Giants when Ginn’s replacement, Kyle Williams, botched two punts.Would the 49ers be celebrating a Super Bowl if Ginn had played in that game?“We’d have been in the Super Bowl,” Ginn said. “I don’t know if we’d have won, but we would have fought to win.”

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What kind of numbers do you see Stafford putting up next season? He is my QB and just curious what the Detroit crowd thinks.

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The Lions signed Jeff Backus to a two year deal, and also signed Shawn Hill.

These things needed to get done. With Stanton moving to the Jets the Lions would have been forved to draft a backup QB if Hill left.

Backus leaving would have left a huge hole at left tackle.

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saw an article that says they are working with Tulloch to get a deal done.

A little disappointing FA season for the Leo's so far, they had to get their house in order first but they need to address CB and LB

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