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yep got tix this morning, this flash seats thing is kinda of a hassle but whatevAnybody going to the free game Monday?
yep got tix this morning, this flash seats thing is kinda of a hassle but whatevAnybody going to the free game Monday?
Going to be a weird vibe at that game. Sort of like preseason when many STH give away their tickets or sell them cheap. Nobody cares about either team and the fans have nothing invested, either emotionally or financially.yep got tix this morning, this flash seats thing is kinda of a hassle but whatevAnybody going to the free game Monday?
I thought it would be higher.Win Probability: New England Patriots 64.9 percent
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2014/11/20/week-12-nfl-picks-browns-packers-and-ravens-among-this-weeks-best-bets/I thought it would be higher.Win Probability: New England Patriots 64.9 percent
In reality this team should be 4-7 or 5-6. The Lions are a 500 team at best. This is Staffords 6th season and what you see is what your get. Stafford is not an elite QB nor will he ever be. The offense has not scored a TD in 9 quarters. Stafford is a QB that when he avoids the rush and gets outside the pocket he can make some plays. What Stafford can never do is take a team 80 yards and dissect a defense with accurate short timing passes, 3 step drops to avoid the rush. That is just not going to happen. To watch Brady yesterday was a thing of beauty. Brady knew exactly where to put the ball in every situation. I could not even get upset because I was enjoying watching him play.This is where w figured they'd be after we completed the third straight comeback win against the Dolphins. Historically they're not a good road team; Arizona was winnable but the offense let them down. I thought the D was OK yesterday - first back to back 3 n outs all year [for the Pats] - but Stafford was horrible. You could see in the body language of the players the offensive ineptitude took the wind out of everyone's sails.
I don't care how many excuses you want to make for him - there were plenty of drops - 18-46-264-0-1 looks like a rookie QB stat line, not a six year vet. He's 0-16 lifetime v. winning teams on the road. Embarrassing how he continues to come up small when they need him the most.
Next four games are winnable. Probably need three for a playoff spot and a 4 game streak to be in line for a bye. Would be great to have a home playoff game. Winning a playoff game would be a huge step forward.
Defense and ST has to carry the team. Zero sacks the last two games. Prater has been better, we'lll need him down the stretch.
The offensive line has been horrible. Reiff and Waddle won't play Thursday. Lucas and Swanson have to step it up.
Somewhat agree, but let's compare Detroit to actual .500 teams in the NFC. Let's say +/- 1, so anybody with 4-6 wins right now:In reality this team should be 4-7 or 5-6. The Lions are a 500 team at best. This is Staffords 6th season and what you see is what your get. Stafford is not an elite QB nor will he ever be. The offense has not scored a TD in 9 quarters. Stafford is a QB that when he avoids the rush and gets outside the pocket he can make some plays. What Stafford can never do is take a team 80 yards and dissect a defense with accurate short timing passes, 3 step drops to avoid the rush. That is just not going to happen. To watch Brady yesterday was a thing of beauty. Brady knew exactly where to put the ball in every situation. I could not even get upset because I was enjoying watching him play.This is where w figured they'd be after we completed the third straight comeback win against the Dolphins. Historically they're not a good road team; Arizona was winnable but the offense let them down. I thought the D was OK yesterday - first back to back 3 n outs all year [for the Pats] - but Stafford was horrible. You could see in the body language of the players the offensive ineptitude took the wind out of everyone's sails.
I don't care how many excuses you want to make for him - there were plenty of drops - 18-46-264-0-1 looks like a rookie QB stat line, not a six year vet. He's 0-16 lifetime v. winning teams on the road. Embarrassing how he continues to come up small when they need him the most.
Next four games are winnable. Probably need three for a playoff spot and a 4 game streak to be in line for a bye. Would be great to have a home playoff game. Winning a playoff game would be a huge step forward.
Defense and ST has to carry the team. Zero sacks the last two games. Prater has been better, we'lll need him down the stretch.
The offensive line has been horrible. Reiff and Waddle won't play Thursday. Lucas and Swanson have to step it up.
What really hurts in that Mayhew had a Matt Millen type of draft. Lions are getting zero production from last years draft class and Eric Ebron looks lost out there..plus he has hands of stone. There were so many players drafted after Ebron that could have contributed right away.BobbyLayne said:Somewhat agree, but let's compare Detroit to actual .500 teams in the NFC. Let's say +/- 1, so anybody with 4-6 wins right now:Da Guru said:In reality this team should be 4-7 or 5-6. The Lions are a 500 team at best. This is Staffords 6th season and what you see is what your get. Stafford is not an elite QB nor will he ever be. The offense has not scored a TD in 9 quarters. Stafford is a QB that when he avoids the rush and gets outside the pocket he can make some plays. What Stafford can never do is take a team 80 yards and dissect a defense with accurate short timing passes, 3 step drops to avoid the rush. That is just not going to happen. To watch Brady yesterday was a thing of beauty. Brady knew exactly where to put the ball in every situation. I could not even get upset because I was enjoying watching him play.This is where w figured they'd be after we completed the third straight comeback win against the Dolphins. Historically they're not a good road team; Arizona was winnable but the offense let them down. I thought the D was OK yesterday - first back to back 3 n outs all year [for the Pats] - but Stafford was horrible. You could see in the body language of the players the offensive ineptitude took the wind out of everyone's sails.
I don't care how many excuses you want to make for him - there were plenty of drops - 18-46-264-0-1 looks like a rookie QB stat line, not a six year vet. He's 0-16 lifetime v. winning teams on the road. Embarrassing how he continues to come up small when they need him the most.
Next four games are winnable. Probably need three for a playoff spot and a 4 game streak to be in line for a bye. Would be great to have a home playoff game. Winning a playoff game would be a huge step forward.
Defense and ST has to carry the team. Zero sacks the last two games. Prater has been better, we'lll need him down the stretch.
The offensive line has been horrible. Reiff and Waddle won't play Thursday. Lucas and Swanson have to step it up.
We've beaten a couple of those teams and we'll be thumping the Bears and Vikings next. Seriously, unbiased, does anybody think any of those teams are better than Detroit? No way. So I'd say in reality Detroit is a good team, at least in terms of today's parity based NFL.
- CHI 5-6
- MIN 4-7
- NO 4-6
- ATL 4-7
- STL 4-7
NFC Playoff contenders:
Little harder to make the case now. ARI beat us. We beat GB. We're terrible on the road, but at Ford Field, I'd say the Lions are even money to beat any of these teams. These are all squads with weaknesses and warts. Good defense is an equalizer.
- ARI 9-2
- GB 8-3
- PHI 8-3
- DAL 8-3
- SEA 7-4
- SF 7-4
- AFC South
That's why I say if they can put together a little run over the next month, we might win a playoff game for the second time in my lifetime. That would be a huge step forward for the franchise. Baby steps.
Stafford: we won't be getting another $78M franchise QB anytime soon. He's our guy for this run.
[SIZE=13.63px]Megatron: [/SIZE]How many more years does have left? His 8 year, $132M deal runs through 2020? I figure he's good for 2-3 more elite seasons at the most. Its not like he's a smooth operator who doesn't take hits. Constantly takes a beating and is battling injuries every year. Sooner or later it catches up to him.
[SIZE=13.63px]Suh has nine toes out the door. [/SIZE]This D is very good but I have a feeling this is peak. Might be replacing both Fairly and Suh in the off-season. Would rather they invest draft picks in the O-line, maybe we can find a FA. Pretty good front 7 overall, and the safeties are play makers.
O-line needs a serious rebuild. Has to be priority run in the off-season.
If the lions win the next 3 and lose their last 2, I do not think the lions make the playoffs at 10-6. One WC will probably go to Dallas/Philly and the other to SF/Sea/Ari. If the Lions win their next 4 and then lose to the Pack, they will most likelyThis is where w figured they'd be after we completed the third straight comeback win against the Dolphins. Historically they're not a good road team; Arizona was winnable but the offense let them down. I thought the D was OK yesterday - first back to back 3 n outs all year [for the Pats] - but Stafford was horrible. You could see in the body language of the players the offensive ineptitude took the wind out of everyone's sails.
I don't care how many excuses you want to make for him - there were plenty of drops - 18-46-264-0-1 looks like a rookie QB stat line, not a six year vet. He's 0-16 lifetime v. winning teams on the road. Embarrassing how he continues to come up small when they need him the most.
Next four games are winnable. Probably need three for a playoff spot and a 4 game streak to be in line for a bye. Would be great to have a home playoff game. Winning a playoff game would be a huge step forward.
Defense and ST has to carry the team. Zero sacks the last two games. Prater has been better, we'lll need him down the stretch.
The offensive line has been horrible. Reiff and Waddle won't play Thursday. Lucas and Swanson have to step it up.
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/10/7/4812752/dominic-raiola-obscene-comments-wisconsin-lions-vs-packersZach York
October 6, 2013 ·
Dominic Raiola is literally the worst person I have ever had the fortune to encounter. After marching down the field awaiting the national anthem, He went off on a verbal tirade, among other things, questioning my sexuality (as a band member) and then continued on to bring my sister and my recently deceased mother into the conversation. After I refused to give him the satisfaction of turning to look at him, he switched targets to a trombone ranting at him calling him overweight and saying he can't play a real sport. After our halftime show, the same fine gentleman called a female member of the band the "c" word.
If it makes you feel better, no one here in Detroit likes him either.never heard about this 'til just now after the cheap shots
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/10/7/4812752/dominic-raiola-obscene-comments-wisconsin-lions-vs-packerswhat a pos ---- stay classy, detroitZach York
October 6, 2013 ·
Dominic Raiola is literally the worst person I have ever had the fortune to encounter. After marching down the field awaiting the national anthem, He went off on a verbal tirade, among other things, questioning my sexuality (as a band member) and then continued on to bring my sister and my recently deceased mother into the conversation. After I refused to give him the satisfaction of turning to look at him, he switched targets to a trombone ranting at him calling him overweight and saying he can't play a real sport. After our halftime show, the same fine gentleman called a female member of the band the "c" word.
Good luck this week.never heard about this 'til just now after the cheap shots
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/10/7/4812752/dominic-raiola-obscene-comments-wisconsin-lions-vs-packerswhat a pos ---- stay classy, detroitZach York
October 6, 2013 ·
Dominic Raiola is literally the worst person I have ever had the fortune to encounter. After marching down the field awaiting the national anthem, He went off on a verbal tirade, among other things, questioning my sexuality (as a band member) and then continued on to bring my sister and my recently deceased mother into the conversation. After I refused to give him the satisfaction of turning to look at him, he switched targets to a trombone ranting at him calling him overweight and saying he can't play a real sport. After our halftime show, the same fine gentleman called a female member of the band the "c" word.
The Bears gave up two 100 yard games to Bucs WRs not named Mike Evans yesterday. If Megatron & Tate III can't torch those guys, I don't think we'll score over 20 again this year.Calvin Johnson is the guy I don't understand, I know he was hurt this year, but he doesn't look like he can separate from anyone anymore. I sure since I said this he go off on T G.
yeah, and fuller isn't a sure thing to playThe Bears gave up two 100 yard games to Bucs WRs not named Mike Evans yesterday. If Megatron & Tate III can't torch those guys, I don't think we'll score over 20 again this year.Calvin Johnson is the guy I don't understand, I know he was hurt this year, but he doesn't look like he can separate from anyone anymore. I sure since I said this he go off on T G.
Plus he cheats at golf. My buddies son caddies at Meadow Brook CC in Northville and he said all the caddies know that Dom is a notorious cheater..foot wedges, has never lost a ball.Good luck this week.never heard about this 'til just now after the cheap shots
http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/10/7/4812752/dominic-raiola-obscene-comments-wisconsin-lions-vs-packerswhat a pos ---- stay classy, detroitZach York
October 6, 2013 ·
Dominic Raiola is literally the worst person I have ever had the fortune to encounter. After marching down the field awaiting the national anthem, He went off on a verbal tirade, among other things, questioning my sexuality (as a band member) and then continued on to bring my sister and my recently deceased mother into the conversation. After I refused to give him the satisfaction of turning to look at him, he switched targets to a trombone ranting at him calling him overweight and saying he can't play a real sport. After our halftime show, the same fine gentleman called a female member of the band the "c" word.
Dominic has been embarrassing the franchise for 14 years. Over 200 starts as a center, zero Pro Bowls. Among other things: flipped off the home crowd one year when they got booed as they were walking off after yet another loss (think this during the 0-16 season), got hit with a paternity suit - he's married with several kids - and has been known to trash teammates in the press. Oh, and after his wife took him back, he stiffed his baby momma on the child support. Got sued for like $170K IIRC.
The Detroit writers gave him the good guy award one year. I don't think that means he's a good guy, just that he has less of a filter than most humans. I used to think he was just a guy who carried his emotions close to the surface, Over the years I've come to the conclusion it's probably not just that he's a weird guy, but probably dealing with a chemical imbalance or mental illness. Dude ain't right.
Not sure why the article you quoted says 2013, I thought the Wisconsin band thing was 2006 or 2008.
Anyway, "Raiola is an #######" ain't exactly news to Lions fans. He's not even a good heel - we're not talking Conrad Dobler here. It's not like Detroit fans are going to stick up for him like, say, Laimbeer/Mahorn. You'll never hear a Lions fan say "Yeah, dirty scumbag player, but he's our dirty scumbag." He's not a good person, he's a suboptimal leader, he's not even very good at his profession. He's retiring at the end of the year, and he won't be missed or fondly remembered.
You think anybody thinks the New England Patriots are a bunch of criminals because of Aaron Henandez? He was a bad dude living a double life. Not sure that guy reflects badly on Craft, Belichick or Brady. He's a thug, whatever.
You think we feel embarrassed about Dom? We know he's a jerk, he's proven that many times over. What he did yesterday was reckless, stupid and wrong. We root for the team and the franchise. If we're talking about most popular Lions Raiola would probably rank close to DFL.
Thanks for playing. Try trolling the Packers thread; pretty easy to get a rise out of them.
Caldwell sounded much stronger before the games started, now he seems weak during his pressers. Caldwell has screwed up a few times this year already with clock management. Caldwell says he is all about discipline and doing the right thing on and off the field. Well the Lions have reverted back to the Schwartz days the last few games and he is doing nothing. The last few weeks Caldwell has had that deer in the headlights look on the sidelines that we saw so often in Indy.BobbyLayne said:Oops! Something went wrong!
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Least surprising news ever, Da Guru. Dom has always been a Class A putz.
I heard the league said no fine. Before that news came out they asked Caldwell (who was uncharacteristically testy in today's presser) what they would do if he missed time due to a suspension ("We'd deal with it. Next Q."). If we weren't so damn thin as it is I'd like to see Raiola sit out Thursday. DNP - Coaches Decision. #### winning, I'd rather we had a coach say "That's not the Lions way. People who try to resort to cheap shots when they're frustrated aren't welcome here." Never happen and I think they defer to his seniority, but honestly, the guys been in losing teams his entire career. If I were the HC he'd be exactly the kind of guy I would run off before he poisons younger players.
Saw a lot of quit yesterday. Disappointing.
Back home, and playing MUCH easier defenses than they faced the last two weeks, I think they'll right the ship. But the lack of competitiveness yesterday was sad. Hell, JAX has like half a team that are 2nd year or younger, awful team, and they pushed IND around the first half. Forced two 3 and outs, couple stalled DET drives, then the flood gates opened up. Other than Iggy's interception, nobody made any meaningful plays the last three quarters.
You are exactly right. If one of them gets swept and finishes tied with the Lion at 10-6 then the Lions will automatically have a better conference record then them (the most conference losses the Lions could have at 10-6 is 4 and the swept team will have at least 5 conference losses, both have 3 now and getting swept would give them 5).We may be struggling for the wildcard at 10-6 if we manage to get to that record, but if one of the Cowboys or Eagles can sweep the 2 game series against each other then that would help.
QUARTERBACK A+ Matthew Stafford was sharp, start to finish. He had one of the best halves of his career, completing 22 of 26 passes for 275 yards and two touchdowns in the first two quarters. From there, he put it in cruise control to seal the victory down the stretch.
Stafford completed passes to nine different receivers, which is an important component to the New Orleans Saints' success with this offensive scheme that's been transplanted to Detroit.
RUNNING BACKS: A-
Early on, there was little daylight for the ball carriers. But Joique Bell found openings down the stretch to help seal the victory. Two important things to take away from the performance were the conversion of a pair of short touchdown runs by Bell, including a leaping effort on fourth-and-1 in the second quarter, and an impactful presence in the passing game, which included six receptions for 54 yards by Theo Riddick.
WIDE RECEIVERS: A
Was someone saying something about Calvin Johnson maybe losing a step? That was seriously a conversation this week, but Megatron made his return in a big way, catching 11 passes for 146 yards and two touchdowns.
Golden Tate chipped in eight grabs for 89 yards and Jeremy Ross and Corey Fuller each had an explosive gainer (20 or more yards) to round out the attack.
TIGHT ENDS: B
Stafford targeted Eric Ebron early, connecting with the tight end three times in the early going. That forced the Bears to account for him, which opened some stuff up on the outside.
Joseph Fauria and Brandon Pettigrew each chipped in a catch, with Fauria's grab setting up a touchdown after he was hauled down inside the 1-yard line.
OFFENSIVE LINE: C+
It was rough in the early going as Stafford was under heavy pressure in the opening quarter. Jared Allen ripped by guard Rob Sims, forcing the quarterback to fumble deep in his own territory, setting up Chicago's second touchdown.
But the group, which was missing starting left tackle Riley Reiff, settled down the rest of the way, allowing Stafford to get hit just five times.
The run blocking also struggled early, but opened some lanes late as Bell finished with 91 yards on 23 carries.
DEFENSIVE LINE: A
The front four rebounded after two subpar performances, completely shutting down the Bears run game and dropping Jay Cutler in the backfield three times.
The defensive ends -- Jason Jones, Ezekiel Ansah and George Johnson -- had particularly strong performances, combining for two sacks, two quarterback hits, two pass deflections and a crucial stop on third-and-1 in the third quarter when Johnson filled the lane and dropped Matt Forte at the line of scrimmage.
LINEBACKERS: B
There were some leaks in coverage and missed tackles early, but the group settled down nicely. DeAndre Levy made up for a missed tackle in the backfield with 10 stops, including one for a loss and a pass breakup.
DEFENSIVE BACKS: A-
The coverage played off early and paid for it as Chicago drove for an early score with quick passes to the outside. But the group found a groove nicely in the final three quarters, especially cornerback Darius Slay, who broke up three passes -- including one that was intercepted by safety Glover Quin playing over the top in coverage.
SPECIAL TEAMS: B
Matt Prater made both of his field-goal attempts, both from 40 yards and beyond. Punter Sam Martin averaged better than 50 yards on his punts, including one where he pinned the Bears inside their 5-yard line.
Jeremy Ross didn't have his best day, bringing three kickoffs out of the end zone, but finding minimal room and getting dropped behind the 20-yard line twice.
COACHING: A
While the defensive game plan wasn't crisp to start, adjustments were made quickly, which limited the Bears to minimal yards and points after the opening quarter.
While the offense butted its head into a brick wall a few times with early-down runs, the overall play-calling was sharp and created plenty of opportunities for the team's playmakers.
Jim Caldwell did a nice job managing the clock at the end of the first half, leading to a touchdown, and flashed some aggressiveness early, going for it on fourth-and-goal at the 1-yard line. The gamble paid off with a touchdown that sliced an early deficit to three points.
I would have bet my life savings NE was going to win that game even with 3-1 odds against. There was. I way they were going to win that game. The GB game is almost the same, but GB does not have the defense so Det could keep that a bit interesting.I thought it would be higher.Win Probability: New England Patriots 64.9 percent
The Lions match up pretty well against the pack and already beat them once. Granted the pack seem to be playing better now.I would have bet my life savings NE was going to win that game even with 3-1 odds against. There was. I way they were going to win that game. The GB game is almost the same, but GB does not have the defense so Det could keep that a bit interesting.I thought it would be higher.Win Probability: New England Patriots 64.9 percent
You forgot Pistons over Spurs in the NBA Finals.I got the Pack losing this week and in Buffalo in a couple weeks. Lions win out, take the two seed behind Philly.
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Also, Michigan beats Ohio Stete today,
Red wings - StanleyYou forgot Pistons over Spurs in the NBA Finals.I got the Pack losing this week and in Buffalo in a couple weeks. Lions win out, take the two seed behind Philly.
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Also, Michigan beats Ohio Stete today,
Those are bigger locks than any of LHucks picks.Red wings - Stanleytigers - world seriesYou forgot Pistons over Spurs in the NBA Finals.I got the Pack losing this week and in Buffalo in a couple weeks. Lions win out, take the two seed behind Philly.
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that should almost cover it
Those two are plausible.Helluva comeback last night.Red wings - Stanleytigers - world seriesYou forgot Pistons over Spurs in the NBA Finals.I got the Pack losing this week and in Buffalo in a couple weeks. Lions win out, take the two seed behind Philly.
Completely sober.
Also, Michigan beats Ohio Stete today,
that should almost cover it
Box store near me sells only 9 & 81. Golden Tate is making himself the new fan favorite.TIL - the #1 selling NFL jersey in Miichigan is 15. Would have guessed 81, 9 or 90.
I would only use Tate in a playoff game or maybe against GB if it is for the division. He is too important to risk otherwise.silly phone...
Ebron getting more involved but still a long ways off from justifying his draft position. Just remember Mike Evans was three before him and OBJ two picks later. He's nowhere close to being a force, but he could still develop I suppose.
Incredible play by the safeties this year. It all starts up front (six sacks yesterday) but Quinn and Iggy have been awesome.
Prater has settled down. Disappointed they passed on two chances to let him try 55-56 yarders.
Wonder why they don't let Tate return punts? Guy was the best PR in the league last year per PFF. Ross is garbage. I can remember lots of guys who played every down during regular season but then moved to PR for the playoffs. They should put him back there.
They would have taken Evans over him if he was still there but "Baby Steps" Ebron at least seems to finally becoming a part of the offense. I'd like to see some more 3 TE formations inside the redzone with Fauria & BP.Ebron getting more involved but still a long ways off from justifying his draft position. Just remember Mike Evans was three before him and OBJ two picks later. He's nowhere close to being a force, but he could still develop I suppose.
Incredible play by the safeties this year. It all starts up front (six sacks yesterday) but Quinn and Iggy have been awesome.
Prater has settled down. Disappointed they passed on two chances to let him try 55-56 yarders.