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I am not against drafting a Tate replacement. It's very possible this is Tate's last year with Detroit.Yeah.. Miller would be awesome imo but kind of a Tate clone.
Im always about OL/DL..
I am not against drafting a Tate replacement. It's very possible this is Tate's last year with Detroit.Yeah.. Miller would be awesome imo but kind of a Tate clone.
Im always about OL/DL..
MO HURST! MO HURST! MO HURST!Mo Hurst would be on my radar as well.
Yes, a lot of knee jerk negatives I heard/read right after the pick, but according to Mayock's list he went about where he should + it was a position of need. Those are primary considerations for any pick. As always time will tell.I’ve been warming to the selection after doing my research. Seems to happen every draft.
Vikings beat writer said they had him in mind for their pick and Spielman was mad they missed out on him.Yes, a lot of knee jerk negatives I heard/read right after the pick, but according to Mayock's list he went about where he should + it was a position of need. Those are primary considerations for any pick. As always time will tell.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/draft-lions-select-frank-ragnow-20th-overall
Bengals may have been interested as well.Vikings beat writer said they had him in mind for their pick and Spielman was mad they missed out on him.
Pretty athletic dude.
Yeah he’s over 300 pounds but doesn’t look it. I mean that as a compliment, he just looks really strong and athletic.Pretty athletic dude.
I’d put him on the list, but if a quality DL is available I don’t see how you could pass up that area of need. They really are focusing on the guys in the trenches first. He’ll go in 2nd for sure.Anyone else interested in Isaiah Oliver? He's a very long corner, I don't mind that idea at all.
Yes, Lions better be able to run now. I still believe if we can get Ameer into open space in the run game, he can make some plays.Like the pick. There’s no excuse for the line now
Decker/Ragnow/Glasgow/Lang/Wagner
or any combo of, should be a top line, injury permitting. Prince is gone.
Really want us to load up on defensive talent but would love us to take Nick Chubb. A revamped line with Blount for short yardage, Riddick/Abdullah for receptions, and Chubb to potentially come in and start carving out a role, COULD be very good and COULD give Stafford the best line and running game he’s ever had.
Hurst, Settle, Landry can we grab one of them and a good RB as well ?
Ragnow, Chubb, Settle then mine for some raw DE/OLB talent, would that be acceptable to people ?
Im fine with not spending draft capital on TE, just go with what we have, plenty of teams scrape by at TE, and I think Luke Wilson could be sneaky good
Maybe. Rangow was a very popular guy, maybe KJ was too.Not sure why they traded up.
It appears it’s going to take you a bit longer to warm up to this pick. heh. I don’t mind the player per se, even though I wanted defense, just not sure they needed to trade up. That 4th rd pick was our TE.For the love of probability, can the Lions hit on a 2nd round skill player.
No.For the love of probability, can the Lions hit on a 2nd round skill player.
this could be true, they did leap frog them. Washington settled for Guice, time will tell who is the better pick/playerI’m betting they wanted Johnson all along and they knew Washington wanted him. I believe Washington immediately traded back after the Lions pick. Nice pick for them.
Honestly, it feels like Teez Tabor all over again, where the Lions outbid themselves.Okay, you like him and maybe he wouldn't have been there in round 5 (despite some grades suggest just that), But there weren't any D-lineman with a 3rd/4th grade that intrigued you?In just read the write up of the safety they took in the 3rd. He had a late 4th round grade, and they have Quinn and Wilson. Plus Mark Andrews sitting right there with a monster whole at tight end.
I hope the Lions front office are the smartest guys in the room, because that is what their picks are saying. History says they aren't.
well they did deep-six the old Oline coach, who was considered downright terrible. but yes, better health on the oline would be nice too, as wagoner, Decker and TJ all missed time.If we can't run the ball, major changes need to be made to the coaching/management staff. We have the following investments:
1st round LT, 1st round C, 3rd round LG, the 19th highest paid RG the 2nd highest paid RT, two 2nd round RBs
Andrews is a glorified WRIn just read the write up of the safety they took in the 3rd. He had a late 4th round grade, and they have Quinn and Wilson. Plus Mark Andrews sitting right there with a monster hole at tight end.
I hope the Lions front office are the smartest guys in the room, because that is what their picks are saying. History says they aren't.
Agreed, he is basically Ebron but we do need something at that position longterm.Andrews is a glorified WR
Rumor is that Washington wanted Johnson, and the Lions had to trade in front of them to get him.Honestly, it feels like Teez Tabor all over again, where the Lions outbid themselves.Okay, you like him and maybe he wouldn't have been there in round 5 (despite some grades suggest just that), But there weren't any D-lineman with a 3rd/4th grade that intrigued you?
Otherwise, OL is never exciting, but hearing how he was wanted by others (including possibly Cincy, who picked next) makes me feel better. A 2nd round RB isn't exactly stunning. I'm mixed about the trade up, but then again it's quite possible they "stole" a player from the next team up again. At least if it turns out they made a mistake passing up Guice, they're far from the only ones.
Detroit Lions 2014 Draft Grade: A-
1st round:Eric Ebron TE. I know most people wish the Lions had taken Beckham or Aaron Donald here but those guys are really expensive. The Lions were able to save a ton of money by taking Ebron instead.
2nd round: Kyle Van Noy LB. Starting line backer on a Super Bowl team. Nuff said.
3rd round: Travis Swanson C. It was such a good pick taking a center from Arkansas that 4 years later the Lions did it again.
4th round: Nevin Lawson CB. He is still on the team.
4th round: Larry Webster DE. He played football.
6th round: TJ Jones WR. He is probably the 3rd best wide receiver with the last name Jones in the NFL now that James Jones is retied.
7th round: Nate Freese K. Most people think drafting a kicker is a mistake but Freese hasn't missed a kick since the Lions cut him after week 3 of the 2014 season.
Overall: I rarely hand out As because perfect drafts are so rare- that is why it's just an A minus here. They probably could have done better then getting a starting corner in the 4th round and I just wonder if most of TJ Jones success has been because he has the same name as Marvin and sometimes the coaches confuse them. Other than those small gripes, it's hard to find fault here.
5* recruit. Didn’t live up to his potential. I guess one of his former Alabama DL coaches is on the Lions staff now. Ehh. We’ll see. Lions are liking their versatile players.I don’t know much about Hand but I anticipated the Lion’s accumulating picks more so than trading them away. Outside of the first round I am left scratching my head.
Big strong dude, probably just a run stuffer though.I don’t know much about Hand but I anticipated the Lion’s accumulating picks more so than trading them away. Outside of the first round I am left scratching my head.
I read about him yesterday and saw similar remarks. No problem with this selection. Always good to have OL depth.NFLN loves this OT from Oregon- said should have been a round 2 guy.
Some people in the draft-verse on Twitter thinks he will beat out Glasgow and start at guard this year.I read about him yesterday and saw similar remarks. No problem with this selection. Always good to have OL depth.
Let the best man win!Some people in the draft-verse on Twitter thinks he will beat out Glasgow and start at guard this year.
Not sure if anyone good is there but we certainly could use help thereAre we rolling with current TEs or 6th rd possibility?
yes....Roberts, Toilolo and Willson...Are we rolling with current TEs or 6th rd possibility?