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Will Roger Goodell create a Civil War in the NFL?

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I think in general the types of changes Goodell has made have been good or at least with good intent. Where he deserves a lot of criticism is in poor explanation, implementation, and consistency....None of that has anything to do with Goodell having no concern for players. He just hasn't been good in rolling things out, and has sucked at being consistent in his punishment rulings. Those aren't character flaws that make him someone to demonize though.

:goodposting: It's entirely possible to make the game less dangerous while still preserving the intent in the game. If you're looking for gladiator-style hits, you're out of luck, but it's entirely possible to make an exciting game that makes a genuine effort to leave its players still functional past the age of 40.

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I think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner, to be honest.

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On a side note: May I ask why some posters feel the need to turn threads personal?

Because, like Tim, you come across as a self-important windbag, in love with the sound of his own voice.I am not saying you are a self-important windbag, I am only answering your question. You often appear condescending, and people are probably wondering why you felt the need to start a thread to repeat a sentiment that has repeated, ad infinitum, in the bounty thread. Then, you make it worse by wondering why people get after you, and talk about writing with "passion", and gosh, if that makes people uncomfortable, I dunno what I can do. Do you have no self-awareness at all? I have told you before, MOP, you are better than 90% of the posters here, in terms of adding to the Pool, but geez.

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I think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner, to be honest.

Really? Goodell could'nt even announce the draft correctly his first year as commish. He started out the draft by saying "with the first pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders take...".

Teams don't "take" players they "select" them, it wasn't until about 15 picks later that someone finally told him he looked like an idiot up there and he switched to the proper way...and BTW I agree with the OP.

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I think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner, to be honest.

Really? Goodell could'nt even announce the draft correctly his first year as commish. He started out the draft by saying "with the first pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders take...".

Teams don't "take" players they "select" them, it wasn't until about 15 picks later that someone finally told him he looked like an idiot up there and he switched to the proper way...and BTW I agree with the OP.

Well, when you raise such a critical point like this, I must reconsider.

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I think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner, to be honest.

Really? Goodell could'nt even announce the draft correctly his first year as commish. He started out the draft by saying "with the first pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders take...".

Teams don't "take" players they "select" them, it wasn't until about 15 picks later that someone finally told him he looked like an idiot up there and he switched to the proper way...and BTW I agree with the OP.

Well, when you raise such a critical point like this, I must reconsider.
Not a critical point, but the point is that for such a job as the stature of running the NFL as commissioner, you would think that person could at least get something like that correct his first draft. If I was running a company and hired a CEO to represent my company, I wouldn't want the guy looking like an idiot the first time he gets in front of a microphone and in front of millions of viewers on TV, that would make me have second thoughts immediately...

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I think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner, to be honest.

Really? Goodell could'nt even announce the draft correctly his first year as commish. He started out the draft by saying "with the first pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders take...".

Teams don't "take" players they "select" them, it wasn't until about 15 picks later that someone finally told him he looked like an idiot up there and he switched to the proper way...and BTW I agree with the OP.

Well, when you raise such a critical point like this, I must reconsider.
Not a critical point, but the point is that for such a job as the stature of running the NFL as commissioner, you would think that person could at least get something like that correct his first draft. If I was running a company and hired a CEO to represent my company, I wouldn't want the guy looking like an idiot the first time he gets in front of a microphone and in front of millions of viewers on TV, that would make me have second thoughts immediately...

just went you thought that this thread had hit rock bottom . . .

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I think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner, to be honest.

Really? Goodell could'nt even announce the draft correctly his first year as commish. He started out the draft by saying "with the first pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders take...".

Teams don't "take" players they "select" them, it wasn't until about 15 picks later that someone finally told him he looked like an idiot up there and he switched to the proper way...and BTW I agree with the OP.

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I think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner, to be honest.

Really? Goodell could'nt even announce the draft correctly his first year as commish. He started out the draft by saying "with the first pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders take...".

Teams don't "take" players they "select" them, it wasn't until about 15 picks later that someone finally told him he looked like an idiot up there and he switched to the proper way...and BTW I agree with the OP.

Well, when you raise such a critical point like this, I must reconsider.
Not a critical point, but the point is that for such a job as the stature of running the NFL as commissioner, you would think that person could at least get something like that correct his first draft. If I was running a company and hired a CEO to represent my company, I wouldn't want the guy looking like an idiot the first time he gets in front of a microphone and in front of millions of viewers on TV, that would make me have second thoughts immediately...
Yeah. I think I got your point the first time. It's really the centerpiece of a good commissioner, one I hadn't quite considered before. Does a team take a player or does a team select a player. Very helpful that you alerted us to this important distinction and amateurish oversight by Mr. Goodell.

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I think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner, to be honest.

Really? Goodell could'nt even announce the draft correctly his first year as commish. He started out the draft by saying "with the first pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders take...".

Teams don't "take" players they "select" them, it wasn't until about 15 picks later that someone finally told him he looked like an idiot up there and he switched to the proper way...and BTW I agree with the OP.

Well, when you raise such a critical point like this, I must reconsider.
Not a critical point, but the point is that for such a job as the stature of running the NFL as commissioner, you would think that person could at least get something like that correct his first draft. If I was running a company and hired a CEO to represent my company, I wouldn't want the guy looking like an idiot the first time he gets in front of a microphone and in front of millions of viewers on TV, that would make me have second thoughts immediately...
:lmao:

This is the first example that came to mind for you?

:lmao:

Goodell is apparently doing an even better job than I had thought.

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I think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner, to be honest.

Really? Goodell could'nt even announce the draft correctly his first year as commish. He started out the draft by saying "with the first pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders take...".

Teams don't "take" players they "select" them, it wasn't until about 15 picks later that someone finally told him he looked like an idiot up there and he switched to the proper way...and BTW I agree with the OP.

Oh really?

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I think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner, to be honest.

Really? Goodell could'nt even announce the draft correctly his first year as commish. He started out the draft by saying "with the first pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders take...".

Teams don't "take" players they "select" them, it wasn't until about 15 picks later that someone finally told him he looked like an idiot up there and he switched to the proper way...and BTW I agree with the OP.

Oh really?

Jake owes everyone an apology.

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Looks like he did say "take" for Calvin Johnson.

Said "select" for Joe Thomas:

"Select" for Ginn:

From just searching YouTube clips, it looks like Goodell said "take" instead of "select" 4, maybe 5, times max. He was obviously a bit nervous and tight to start, but he grew into it fairly quickly and had some great interactions with fans off camera.

If that's what gets your panties in a bunch, then you may be wound a bit too tight.

If there was anything to complain about that draft, it was that the fans that stood in line the longest to get in got screwed, and that draft took WAY WAY WAY too long.

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I think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner, to be honest.

Really? Goodell could'nt even announce the draft correctly his first year as commish. He started out the draft by saying "with the first pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders take...".

Teams don't "take" players they "select" them, it wasn't until about 15 picks later that someone finally told him he looked like an idiot up there and he switched to the proper way...and BTW I agree with the OP.

Oh really?

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I think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner, to be honest.

Really? Goodell could'nt even announce the draft correctly his first year as commish. He started out the draft by saying "with the first pick in the draft, the Oakland Raiders take...".

Teams don't "take" players they "select" them, it wasn't until about 15 picks later that someone finally told him he looked like an idiot up there and he switched to the proper way...and BTW I agree with the OP.

Oh really?

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Ha! The whole premise was idiotic enough, I didn't think to fact check it.

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The President of the Players' Union was very vocal about Goodell seeming like he had already reached some decisions and punishments for players. If Goodell suspended players for a year like he did with Payton, or even half a season...this could really be the tipping point for some of these guys. I do feel like I am in the minority camp these days with a bad taste in my mouth for what Goodell has done. A lot of posters however in the last year have bought in hook line and sinker to what Goodell has done to the game. He really had to take a backseat last year with the lockout and now it seems he is out for blood. Goodell caters to the casual fan and doesn't give 2 spits about the hard core NFL fans and maybe eventually people will get their fill of this and see that Goodell does not care about the players, just the almighty $$$.

I don't like Goodell's heavy handiness and inconsistency over fines and suspensions but the players have no one to blame but themselves. The time to have done something about it was during the last collective bargaining agreement. One team tried to make a stand against Goodell but the others caved in so I have no sympathy for the players that are whining about it now.

You made your bed now sleep in it. All hail deh fuhrer Goodell. :tebow:

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i dont even think you know what a civil war is go listen to roland the headless tomson gunner and you will have a better idea but until then you are not norways favorite sun and will probably never understand the plight of the congolese so this thread should not throw around the term civil war so lightly take that from here to johannasburg to the bank there brohan

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Someone on Sirius said the other day that "Pete Rozelle built the NFL and now Roger Goodell will save it from itself." The NFL is such an entity of its own that it is not going to flounder but one of the key roles for Goodell's job (and you will hear him make mention of it just about anytime he is being interviewed) is to grow the game and take seriosuly the challenges to player safety that it is facing in increased numbers.

I think the number of lawsuits filed right now against the NFL, just regarding brain/concussion issues is like 70-72 or something like that. As awareness and medical technology improves, people are seeing that safety needs must be addressed. We see it from previous generations with retired players with knees, backs, etc, and now its the brain and things of that nature. Overall, it IS very important and very expensive for the league to be held liable and not address it. While its not the same, it is similar as if your employer didn't offer to provide safety measures to you, knowing that letting the status quo continue would likely lead to injury or medical concerns.

I think Goodell is doing a fine job. I especially liked how he handled the Bountygate situation. I think he sent an exceptionally strong message of deterrence that was very well balanced in that it clearly affected the people responsible but at the same time did NOT send a long term punishment to the fan. Had he taken away tons of draft picks, the responsible people could have left town and the Saints fans would be sitting there for a decade trying to dig out of having no way to field a competitve team. Based on the punishment, I would say people will think twice before lying to the NFL or acting in this way again.

Armani Toomer was interviewed the other day and he said,as a former player, this type of thing sickens him because he said players know that this is a tough game with a lot of natural consequences in it and that players generally understood that no one should be out there trying to end a person's career or negatively impact their quality of life. Paraphrasing here, but he said, for players to try to do these kinds of things for relatively insignificant amounts of money is sickening because players in the NFL are living out their dream and it was terrible that people who should understand how much effort goes into having an NFL job would be willing to take it away like that.

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*Puts MOP on a list*

An alias is born. Oh good.

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Without a list of Goodell's contributions/decisions in front of me, I can safely say that I agree with nearly everything he's done, including the saints bounty program up to the cap penalties imposed on the eve of free agency. However, if the Dallas/Washington penalty and the way it was handled is evidence of a change in his behavior due to feeling invincible, then I could quickly change into a Goodell hater.

EVERYTHING about the cap penalty to those two teams stinks. From the beginning premise, to the way it was 'voted' on, to they timeline in doling out the penalty. I don't think an accurate picture has been composed about what a post-nuclear option NFL landscape would look like if the anti-trust exemption was removed due to a lawsuit, so I can't say I want that to happen. But from a justice perspective, I hope Snyder/Jones spank Goodell and the rest of the owners on this.

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I don't think Goodell has anything to do with the Redskins/Cowboys issue. That's strictly between the owners.

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While I disagree with the OP, which I think is way over the top, you guys who think Goodell "is probably the best commish since Rozelle" and "think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner" have a really low bar for excellence, and are just as off base as the OP.

I think Goodell is doing a very good job with bountygate thus far. He knows he has to protect the NFL from liability from lawsuits. So he gets high marks for that. As far as protecting the league from liability goes, I'd give him an "A."

Then in the same time period, he allows a rogue owner, John Mara, to institute cap penalties against 2 in division foes on the eve of FA, despite the 2 teams literally breaking no rules. This is an unprecedented incident in any pro sports league as far as I can tell. This in itself should be a fireable offense - no competent commissioner should ever allow this type of cheating, sleaziness, and unethical behavior by an owner like Mara to occur. This is a very real chance that Congress will eventually get involved in this and review the nfl's antitrust exemption, due to this debacle. A good commissioner would never allow his league to be put in this type of vulnerable position.

From a marketing standpoint, I think Goodell is doing his job very well, even better than Tags.

As for being consistent in handing out punishments, suspensions, etc., Goodell is absolutely terrible. I'd be surprised if anyone in the Shark Pool would play in a fantasy league with a commissioner that is so inconsistent. Goodell has suspended players despite not being convicted of any crimes. He's suspended some players for certain actions and not suspended other players for the same type of actions. There needs to be strict guidelines and exact punishments which are clearly defined for every type of misbehavior by nfl players, instead of Goodell seemingly handing down whatever punishment he desires like he's King Joffrey.

His inconsistency carries over to coaches and teams too. He doesn't suspend Belichick for any games despite him blatantly cheating and disrupting competitive balance in the league, yet he suspends Sean Payton an entire year. This does not compute. Harbaugh and Schwarz only receive a verbal scolding for their actions after the Lions-49ers game last season. Does anyone really think if a similar incident involved 2 players instead that they would have only received a verbal scolding.

And then there's the simple common sense stuff that he's screwed up. For example, any knowledgeable nfl fan knew that who got to play the first home game in the new stadium for the Giants and Jets was a pretty big deal. Goodell works for the owners, so he should have had the common sense to know he had to communicate with the 2 teams how it was going to be decided who got to play the first home game in the new stadium. Instead, however, Goodell apparently decided to just flip a coin during his lunch break to make the decision without consulting either team prior?

In conclusion, he's done a lot of really good things. And he's made a lot of mistakes and blunders. He's a mixed bag at best. As far as NFL commissioners in my lifetime go: Rozelle>>>>>>>>>Tags>>>Goodell.

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While I disagree with the OP, which I think is way over the top, you guys who think Goodell "is probably the best commish since Rozelle" and "think it's time to start considering Goodell as a great commissioner" have a really low bar for excellence, and are just as off base as the OP.

I think Goodell is doing a very good job with bountygate thus far. He knows he has to protect the NFL from liability from lawsuits. So he gets high marks for that. As far as protecting the league from liability goes, I'd give him an "A."

Then in the same time period, he allows a rogue owner, John Mara, to institute cap penalties against 2 in division foes on the eve of FA, despite the 2 teams literally breaking no rules. This is an unprecedented incident in any pro sports league as far as I can tell. This in itself should be a fireable offense - no competent commissioner should ever allow this type of cheating, sleaziness, and unethical behavior by an owner like Mara to occur. This is a very real chance that Congress will eventually get involved in this and review the nfl's antitrust exemption, due to this debacle. A good commissioner would never allow his league to be put in this type of vulnerable position.

From a marketing standpoint, I think Goodell is doing his job very well, even better than Tags.

As for being consistent in handing out punishments, suspensions, etc., Goodell is absolutely terrible. I'd be surprised if anyone in the Shark Pool would play in a fantasy league with a commissioner that is so inconsistent. Goodell has suspended players despite not being convicted of any crimes. He's suspended some players for certain actions and not suspended other players for the same type of actions. There needs to be strict guidelines and exact punishments which are clearly defined for every type of misbehavior by nfl players, instead of Goodell seemingly handing down whatever punishment he desires like he's King Joffrey.

His inconsistency carries over to coaches and teams too. He doesn't suspend Belichick for any games despite him blatantly cheating and disrupting competitive balance in the league, yet he suspends Sean Payton an entire year. This does not compute. Harbaugh and Schwarz only receive a verbal scolding for their actions after the Lions-49ers game last season. Does anyone really think if a similar incident involved 2 players instead that they would have only received a verbal scolding.

And then there's the simple common sense stuff that he's screwed up. For example, any knowledgeable nfl fan knew that who got to play the first home game in the new stadium for the Giants and Jets was a pretty big deal. Goodell works for the owners, so he should have had the common sense to know he had to communicate with the 2 teams how it was going to be decided who got to play the first home game in the new stadium. Instead, however, Goodell apparently decided to just flip a coin during his lunch break to make the decision without consulting either team prior?

In conclusion, he's done a lot of really good things. And he's made a lot of mistakes and blunders. He's a mixed bag at best. As far as NFL commissioners in my lifetime go: Rozelle>>>>>>>>>Tags>>>Goodell.

:goodposting: I feel like he is always just trying to save face or avoid something. If there is something that draws more media attention he will come down harder on it to look better. I know I dont have much specifics to back this but I just feel he's not concerned on the offense itself as in so much as the way that offense looks in representing the league.

Im a future teacher and we are told to make sure that rules and consequences are fair and just to all students equally. I dont see that from Goodell. There cannot be favoritism. This is just an example, but if someone hits a no name QB like Jason Cambell in the knees and he gets hurt no one cares. If Tom Brady gets hit below the knees they make a rule out of it. That's favoritism. i know you can say that its protecting the product, but its got to be consistent and with him its not.

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After lsitening to the audio of Gregg Williams wax poetic about taking out Crabtree's ACL and hitting Frank Gore in the head during pileups and "testing" Williams' concussion - does MoP still think Goodell is going to hard on these ###-wipes?

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In a sense, maybe there already is something of a "culture war" going on in the NFL right now. It's not Goodell vs. Owners/Players, though ... I think it's more like the old "football is violence" mindset versus the new "football is lucrative sports entertainment, so how can we clean it up and have more games?" mindset. Bountygate is but one battleground, while the back-&-forth with James Harrison is another.

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His inconsistency carries over to coaches and teams too. He doesn't suspend Belichick for any games despite him blatantly cheating and disrupting competitive balance in the league, yet he suspends Sean Payton an entire year. This does not compute. Harbaugh and Schwarz only receive a verbal scolding for their actions after the Lions-49ers game last season. Does anyone really think if a similar incident involved 2 players instead that they would have only received a verbal scolding.

One coach was warned and told the NFL was investigating and to stop his actions...he didn't...he got suspended.The two situations are far different and the penalties should have been didfferent.Love how you go overboard with the claim of blatant cheating and disrupting competetive balance too.

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After lsitening to the audio of Gregg Williams wax poetic about taking out Crabtree's ACL and hitting Frank Gore in the head during pileups and "testing" Williams' concussion - does MoP still think Goodell is going to hard on these ###-wipes? :popcorn:

I stated I have no issues with the penalties on the coaches. I put up plenty to tear apart, I don't any extra help GG :)

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In a sense, maybe there already is something of a "culture war" going on in the NFL right now. It's not Goodell vs. Owners/Players, though ... I think it's more like the old "football is violence" mindset versus the new "football is lucrative sports entertainment, so how can we clean it up and have more games?" mindset. Bountygate is but one battleground, while the back-&-forth with James Harrison is another.

Good stuff DB

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His inconsistency carries over to coaches and teams too. He doesn't suspend Belichick for any games despite him blatantly cheating and disrupting competitive balance in the league, yet he suspends Sean Payton an entire year. This does not compute. Harbaugh and Schwarz only receive a verbal scolding for their actions after the Lions-49ers game last season. Does anyone really think if a similar incident involved 2 players instead that they would have only received a verbal scolding.

One coach was warned and told the NFL was investigating and to stop his actions...he didn't...he got suspended.The two situations are far different and the penalties should have been didfferent.
Look, I understand that the situations are not exactly the same, but not for the reason you state. The Patriots and every other team were warned to stop what they were doing, just like the Saints were warned to stop the bounties. Goodell obviously had to drop the hammer on Payton to protect the league from existing and future lawsuits. I'm not saying Belichick should have gotten a full year, but he certainly should have gotten at least a 4 game suspension.

Love how you go overboard with the claim of blatant cheating and disrupting competetive balance too.

Well, I've got the facts on my side and you've got just your opinion.

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After lsitening to the audio of Gregg Williams wax poetic about taking out Crabtree's ACL and hitting Frank Gore in the head during pileups and "testing" Williams' concussion - does MoP still think Goodell is going to hard on these ###-wipes?

:popcorn:

I stated I have no issues with the penalties on the coaches. I put up plenty to tear apart, I don't any extra help GG :)
Here's why I don't seperate. How many of his players turned down payments? How many of them disagree with the policy? Heck, how many of them were making deals themselves?

In Williams' rant he says "the first one is on me" (rubbing his fingers together = $) - the point being that if he pays the first one, who pays the other "bounties"? Just the coaches? I'd bet (no pun intended) that many of the bounties are funded "pool style" - everbody throws in some money and whoever knocks people out wins the pot(s). The Lions obviously have confused this "pot" thing - but the point still stands.

Why hold only the coaches accountable? Are they the ones aiming for guys "outside ACLs" - or hitting guys in the head - intentionally? No. The worse part from a players perspective is that they (the players) are also at risk themselves - they, more than anyone, should respect the opposing players whose careers are also at risk on every play - even without intentionally seeking to injure/cripple/incapacitate.

I understand what you are saying - I just disagree with it.

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His inconsistency carries over to coaches and teams too. He doesn't suspend Belichick for any games despite him blatantly cheating and disrupting competitive balance in the league, yet he suspends Sean Payton an entire year. This does not compute. Harbaugh and Schwarz only receive a verbal scolding for their actions after the Lions-49ers game last season. Does anyone really think if a similar incident involved 2 players instead that they would have only received a verbal scolding.

One coach was warned and told the NFL was investigating and to stop his actions...he didn't...he got suspended.The two situations are far different and the penalties should have been didfferent.
Look, I understand that the situations are not exactly the same, but not for the reason you state. The Patriots and every other team were warned to stop what they were doing, just like the Saints were warned to stop the bounties. Goodell obviously had to drop the hammer on Payton to protect the league from existing and future lawsuits. I'm not saying Belichick should have gotten a full year, but he certainly should have gotten at least a 4 game suspension.

Love how you go overboard with the claim of blatant cheating and disrupting competetive balance too.

Well, I've got the facts on my side and you've got just your opinion.
What facts...what facts support that anything the Pats did upset any competitive balance or that it was just blatant cheating.Sorry...thats pure opinion.

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In a sense, maybe there already is something of a "culture war" going on in the NFL right now. It's not Goodell vs. Owners/Players, though ... I think it's more like the old "football is violence" mindset versus the new "football is lucrative sports entertainment, so how can we clean it up and have more games?" mindset. Bountygate is but one battleground, while the back-&-forth with James Harrison is another.

Good stuff DB
There are battlegrounds outside of the league, as well. You'll be interested in this: Bill Simmons calling out the sports media for hypocracy (Twitter, earlier today).

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His inconsistency carries over to coaches and teams too. He doesn't suspend Belichick for any games despite him blatantly cheating and disrupting competitive balance in the league, yet he suspends Sean Payton an entire year. This does not compute. Harbaugh and Schwarz only receive a verbal scolding for their actions after the Lions-49ers game last season. Does anyone really think if a similar incident involved 2 players instead that they would have only received a verbal scolding.

One coach was warned and told the NFL was investigating and to stop his actions...he didn't...he got suspended.The two situations are far different and the penalties should have been didfferent.
Look, I understand that the situations are not exactly the same, but not for the reason you state. The Patriots and every other team were warned to stop what they were doing, just like the Saints were warned to stop the bounties. Goodell obviously had to drop the hammer on Payton to protect the league from existing and future lawsuits. I'm not saying Belichick should have gotten a full year, but he certainly should have gotten at least a 4 game suspension.

Love how you go overboard with the claim of blatant cheating and disrupting competetive balance too.

Well, I've got the facts on my side and you've got just your opinion.
What facts...what facts support that anything the Pats did upset any competitive balance or that it was just blatant cheating.Sorry...thats pure opinion.
I'm not going to hijack this thread into a discussion on Spygate, so this will be my last post in this thread with regards to the topic. All the facts are out there which support my previous statements wrt Belichick and Spygate. Feel free to learn them on your own or ask others to elaborate on said facts in another thread.

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In a sense, maybe there already is something of a "culture war" going on in the NFL right now. It's not Goodell vs. Owners/Players, though ... I think it's more like the old "football is violence" mindset versus the new "football is lucrative sports entertainment, so how can we clean it up and have more games?" mindset. Bountygate is but one battleground, while the back-&-forth with James Harrison is another.

Good stuff DB
There are battlegrounds outside of the league, as well. You'll be interested in this: Bill Simmons calling out the sports media for hypocracy (Twitter, earlier today).
Great that you posted this. He's flipping his #### because of how the league handled concussions years ago. WTF does that have to do with anything? They should just let it continue?

As expected, he's getting destroyed on Twitter. The only people agreeing with him or those retweeting it and adding "EXACTLY!".

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