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QB Russell Wilson, PIT (6 Viewers)
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ImTheScientist
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Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
I have been posting in here repeatedly good or bad with Wilson. I was of the camp that felt Flynn should have been starting this year. Wilson has now done enough to proven that he was the right choice thus far for sure.
Right now Seattle needs to be way less conservative with Wilson. Someone made mention earlier in this thread about this style of play that Seattle has elected to go with being such a fine line between winning and losing. They need to try to put some of these games away instead of letting inferior teams hang around. Let Wilson throw more and bury some of these teams.
Right now Seattle needs to be way less conservative with Wilson. Someone made mention earlier in this thread about this style of play that Seattle has elected to go with being such a fine line between winning and losing. They need to try to put some of these games away instead of letting inferior teams hang around. Let Wilson throw more and bury some of these teams.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
I'll take that as you have decided to eat crow.
I do agree they need to throw more.
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Carter_Can_Fly
Footballguy
Sure call it eating crow at the moment for sure.However with 5 games left and a playoff berth on the line there is a lot left to the story (still 30% of the season left). Seattle should be in the playoffs. If they fail to make it and Wilson's play faulters down the stretch then call it a push.This is a team that at the moment is not even going to throw for 3,000 yards passing. That goes back to being far too conservative. It appears that Wilson can and should be throwing more. Will Wilson respond when they need him more?He has a couple of tough match ups down the stretch where they will need him to step up vs Chicago and San Fran. He also will need to play better than his last 0 td 3 int game he had against St. Louis when they face them in week 17.I'll take that as you have decided to eat crow.
bigdaddydave
Footballguy
It's good to see that others are on the same page. This offense should not be content going up by a TD and then committing to run and controlling the clock. It is blatantly obvious that our defense is nowhere near what we thought it was. Pete Carroll needs to make it his goal to score 30 points a game, no matter what!
Mario Kart
Footballguy
ROY!
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Nicely done Mr Wilson.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
No. He's damn good though.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Let's not get the anointing oils out just yet...great game for him today.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
23-of-37 passes for 293 yards & 2TDs passing....
He is on pace to break Mannings rookie TD record, he just had his 3rd come from behind vicotry, and last week he broke the all time rookie record for completions in a row w/ 16.
ROY!
Haven't seen the haters return.... they must have all choked on crow.
He is on pace to break Mannings rookie TD record, he just had his 3rd come from behind vicotry, and last week he broke the all time rookie record for completions in a row w/ 16.
ROY!
Haven't seen the haters return.... they must have all choked on crow.
Mario Kart
Footballguy
Then who?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Take a wild guess.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Legatron?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Luck is 8-4 with a team that went 2-14 last season. Wilson has him on passer rating and he's been more efficient, but he has a MUCH better running game and a MUCH better defense. Like... not even close.
Indy is 8-4 completely on the back of Luck. It's his award to lose.
Indy is 8-4 completely on the back of Luck. It's his award to lose.
Probably Andrew Luck since he was 1st overall pick.
Raider Nation
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Scooby1974
Footballguy
The other rookie QB with 4 TD's...and 3 interceptions...that had to come from behind to beat a craptastic Detroit D?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Yeah, the "coming from behind" part had nothing to do with his defense giving up 8,000 yards.The other rookie QB with 4 TD's...and 3 interceptions...that had to come from behind to beat a craptastic Detroit D?
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I also love how you homers get all offended because I think Luck should/will win.
Just because I think he should win it doesn't mean I'm taking anything away from your boy.
Luck has done more with much, much, much less.
Just because I think he should win it doesn't mean I'm taking anything away from your boy.
Luck has done more with much, much, much less.
Hooper31
Footballguy
You often walk into weddings and point out all the hot women that look better than the bride?I also love how you homers get all offended because I think Luck should/will win.Just because I think he should win it doesn't mean I'm taking anything away from your boy.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
No. Why do you ask?You often walk into weddings and point out all the hot women that look better than the bride?I also love how you homers get all offended because I think Luck should/will win.Just because I think he should win it doesn't mean I'm taking anything away from your boy.
Neofight
Footballguy
When you say Luck has done more, what exactly are you referring to? And that he has done it with much (...) less, have you seen Seattle's WR's throughout the entire season? They have not exactly been consistent. Wayne is hands down the best WR of the lot.I also love how you homers get all offended because I think Luck should/will win.Just because I think he should win it doesn't mean I'm taking anything away from your boy.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Over Andrew Luck? No way in hell.23-of-37 passes for 293 yards & 2TDs passing....He is on pace to break Mannings rookie TD record, he just had his 3rd come from behind vicotry, and last week he broke the all time rookie record for completions in a row w/ 16.ROY!
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Hater!Over Andrew Luck? No way in hell.23-of-37 passes for 293 yards & 2TDs passing....He is on pace to break Mannings rookie TD record, he just had his 3rd come from behind vicotry, and last week he broke the all time rookie record for completions in a row w/ 16.ROY!
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
I know the media won't let it happen....doesn't mean Wilson shouldn't win it.Over Andrew Luck? No way in hell.23-of-37 passes for 293 yards & 2TDs passing....He is on pace to break Mannings rookie TD record, he just had his 3rd come from behind vicotry, and last week he broke the all time rookie record for completions in a row w/ 16.ROY!
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Good job pointing out one receiver.You left out their respective running games and defenses.When you say Luck has done more, what exactly are you referring to? And that he has done it with much (...) less, have you seen Seattle's WR's throughout the entire season? They have not exactly been consistent. Wayne is hands down the best WR of the lot.I also love how you homers get all offended because I think Luck should/will win.
Just because I think he should win it doesn't mean I'm taking anything away from your boy.
Luck has done more with much, much, much less.
GO!
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Same here RN, Luck deserves the honor and he is going to win it. Wilson has been a good story but there is no comparison between the 2 QBs right now. We could fire up a thread though.I also love how you homers get all offended because I think Luck should/will win.Just because I think he should win it doesn't mean I'm taking anything away from your boy.
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I don't think you are supposed to say that in this thread.(Something about pretty girls and weddings)
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
LOLIndianapolis... media capital of the world!I know the media won't let it happen....Over Andrew Luck? No way in hell.23-of-37 passes for 293 yards & 2TDs passing....
He is on pace to break Mannings rookie TD record, he just had his 3rd come from behind vicotry, and last week he broke the all time rookie record for completions in a row w/ 16.
ROY!
Haven't seen the haters return.... they must have all choked on crow.
Scooby1974
Footballguy
And Wilson has All-Pro receivers akin to Reggie Wayne to throw to? Last year's Colts team was 2-14 because they had the Scientist at QB rather than Peyton Manning. That team last year struggled, but looked FAR WORSE than they are on offense with a bad QB. A BAD D only serves up more opportunity for Luck to HAVE to put up more numbers. I'd guess Luck wins ROY as well, so I'm not trying to rail on you too bad. Just pointing out that each one is held back/pushed forward by the situation dealt to them by their team.Yeah, the "coming from behind" part had nothing to do with his defense giving up 8,000 yards.The other rookie QB with 4 TD's...and 3 interceptions...that had to come from behind to beat a craptastic Detroit D?
Neofight
Footballguy
I assumed you were talking about offensive weapons, since neither QB is responsible for the play of the D. If you've been watching, Seattle's D has been soft up the middle and prone to giving up big plays. Their corners are getting beat repeatedly and even Earl Thomas has looked pedestrian today. Seattle's D hasn't been very good as a unit since the San Francisco loss.So how has Luck done more?Good job pointing out one receiver.You left out their respective running games and defenses.When you say Luck has done more, what exactly are you referring to? And that he has done it with much (...) less, have you seen Seattle's WR's throughout the entire season? They have not exactly been consistent. Wayne is hands down the best WR of the lot.I also love how you homers get all offended because I think Luck should/will win.
Just because I think he should win it doesn't mean I'm taking anything away from your boy.
Luck has done more with much, much, much less.
GO!
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Neofight
Footballguy
Right now is a good time to compare, and I think the comparison is very close. 5 weeks ago, perhaps not.Same here RN, Luck deserves the honor and he is going to win it. Wilson has been a good story but there is no comparison between the 2 QBs right now. We could fire up a thread though.I also love how you homers get all offended because I think Luck should/will win.Just because I think he should win it doesn't mean I'm taking anything away from your boy.
Hooper31
Footballguy
Is there a ROY thread? If not, go start one. If there is, feel free to contribute. You're making the effort in the Wilson thread to talk about how he's not deserving of some award, but some other player is. Color me shocked that someone disagrees with you. No one is "offended". You want to praise or criticize Wilson in this thread? Great. Have at it. But if you're criticism is that Wilson isn't someone else.... what's the point?No. Why do you ask?You often walk into weddings and point out all the hot women that look better than the bride?I also love how you homers get all offended because I think Luck should/will win.Just because I think he should win it doesn't mean I'm taking anything away from your boy.
mad sweeney
Footballguy
I know the media won't let it happen....doesn't mean Wilson shouldn't win it.Over Andrew Luck? No way in hell.23-of-37 passes for 293 yards & 2TDs passing....He is on pace to break Mannings rookie TD record, he just had his 3rd come from behind vicotry, and last week he broke the all time rookie record for completions in a row w/ 16.ROY!
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
I didn't bring it up, Sparky.My post was a reply to a contention that Wilson is the ROY. Am I supposed to agree when I don't? Am I supposed to stay silent when I disagree with something? Good luck with either of those scenarios.Is there a ROY thread? If not, go start one. If there is, feel free to contribute. You're making the effort in the Wilson thread to talk about how he's not deserving of some award, but some other player is. Color me shocked that someone disagrees with you. No one is "offended". You want to praise or criticize Wilson in this thread? Great. Have at it. But if you're criticism is that Wilson isn't someone else.... what's the point?No. Why do you ask?You often walk into weddings and point out all the hot women that look better than the bride?I also love how you homers get all offended because I think Luck should/will win.Just because I think he should win it doesn't mean I'm taking anything away from your boy.
Luck has been anointed as the best QB prospect since Elway and has delivered. I don't understand how saying he'll win ROY elicits a
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habsfan
Footballguy
I think it's the implication that he needs his draft position to fall back on in order to win. RN thinks he's having a ROY season regardless of that.Luck has been anointed as the best QB prospect since Elway and has delivered. I don't understand how saying he'll win ROY elicits a
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Did JaMarcus Russell win the ROY? He was the 1st overall pick. Mel Kiper compared him favorably to Elway.http://1340thefan.com/espns-mel-kiper-compares-jamarcus-russell-to-john-elway-video/You mean he didn't automatically win it with those credentials?Luck has been anointed as the best QB prospect since Elway and has delivered. I don't understand how saying he'll win ROY elicits a
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
Of course.As if the ROY voters think to themselves... "Hmmm, not sure if he deserves to win. Where was he drafted?"I think it's the implication that he needs his draft position to fall back on in order to win. RN thinks he's having a ROY season regardless of that.Luck has been anointed as the best QB prospect since Elway and has delivered. I don't understand how saying he'll win ROY elicits a
Raider Nation
Devil's Advocate
As well you should. He's an exciting young player.I wish we had one of those.'proninja said:
Raider Nation
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I loved FavreCo's work in last year's Tebow thread. He doesn't bump this thread as often, though.Where is t-joke now? Waterboy, that's where. That's how bad he is. Whitehurst obviously should have been starting. They fixed that mistake with Flynn, not the midget you are in love with.And this comes from a guy that thought Charlie Whitehurst was going to start over TJax last year.
Neofight
Footballguy
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mad sweeney
Footballguy
I didn't much care who won the QB battle, especially since all we really saw was preseason and not all the hours of study, instruction and practice, as long as the best long term option was who they picked. I'm thinking Pete and John made the right call.
ImTheScientist
Footballguy
Funny thing is Wilson leads luck in almost every statistical category yet he won't sniff ROY. Only more to fuel Wilsons fire.
Most probably don't know that ^
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