Jack White
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He does have some favorable matchups after this week.
Now whether he takes advantage of them is another issue.
Now whether he takes advantage of them is another issue.
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QB Russell Wilson, PIT (3 Viewers)
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ImTheScientist
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fantasycurse42
Footballguy Jr.
Jack White
Footballguy
parasaurolophus
Footballguy
When did he get a rushing TD? When did he have his second multi TD game? When did he become a good fantasy player this year?
I will agree with you in pointing out though that things will likely change since seattle is not winning games. Wonder if one of those things will be getting graham more involved?
The Commish
Footballguy
So he's not a "great player for real football"?? Never thought I'd see the day
How quickly the tides turn!
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Jack White
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I offered him to our Luck owner in exchange for a modest WR upgrade.biju said:
He turned it down in favor of a Stafford-Flacco platoon.
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tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Dear tommyGunZ,
The Vikings are playing the Seahawks this week and Russell Wilson has me more than a little concerned that the Vikings will fail to contain him which will lead to some big plays that may be enough for the Vikings to lose this game.
If you would like to make any special proclamations about how well Wilson is going to play against the Vikings I would surely appreciate it.
TIA
The Vikings are playing the Seahawks this week and Russell Wilson has me more than a little concerned that the Vikings will fail to contain him which will lead to some big plays that may be enough for the Vikings to lose this game.
If you would like to make any special proclamations about how well Wilson is going to play against the Vikings I would surely appreciate it.
TIA
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Kind of crazy, but Jimmy Graham went out for the season and Wilson blew up 2 games in a row. It's hard to believe that adding Jimmy Graham actually seemed to hurt the offense.
biju
Footballguy
Tooting my own horn. Wilson's combined stats for the past four weeks:
Att: 118
Cmp: 80
Cmp %: 67.8%
Yards: 1,119
TDs: 12
INTs: 1
Rush Yards: 147
Rush TDs: 1
The General
Footballguy
Back to looking studly. Oline has been much, much better. Rawls has been like finding money in your pocket.
habsfan
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
"Becoming"? 
The General
Footballguy
Props to ITS on this one. Finless Tiger Woods-esque like call on this guy :thumbsup:
Hooper31
Footballguy
Still one of the greatest posts in SP history.
Hooper31
Footballguy
Good times scanning the early pages of this thread. Found this gem. I've made mistakes in trying to predict future success before, but feeling comfortable with this call after Sherman's rookie season.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
Lengthy article noting the incredible hot streak that Seattle QB Russell Wilson is on.
Go to LINK to see full read w/chart/photos and video at top of the page.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14363989/russell-wilson-playing-best-qb-second-half-ot-season-nfl
He won't win MVP, but nobody is outplaying Russell Wilson...Seattle's star quarterback just put up what could very well be considered the best four-game stretch in modern NFL history.
...Since losing to the Cardinals in Week 10, Wilson's numbers are surreal... He has gone 89-for-118 for 1,171 passing yards. That's a staggering 75.4 percent completion percentage and an average of 9.9 yards per pass attempt. Even more impressively, he has thrown 16 touchdowns without a single interception.
It all adds up to a passer rating of 145.9. Pro-football-reference.com has game logs for quarterbacks going back through the 1960 season, 10 years before the AFL-NFL merger.
Do you know how many quarterbacks have thrown 100 or more attempts over a four-game stretch and posted a better passer rating over that span than Wilson? Zero. It has never happened before:
(Click link to article to see chart and rest of article)
...it's totally reasonable to say that Russell Wilson has just wrapped up one of the best quarter-seasons the league has ever seen.
And, of course, there are reasons to argue that Wilson has had it harder than most. He lost the guy who was nominally designed to be his top receiver, Jimmy Graham, to a season-ending injury halfway through this stretch. Wilson's top offensive weapon, Marshawn Lynch, hasn't been around for the entirety of this run, having last played against the Cardinals in Week 10. He lost undrafted rookie Thomas Rawls to a broken ankle early Sunday. His receiving corps currently consists of two undrafted free agent wide receivers, a rookie third-rounder who was the 10th wideout taken in this year's draft, a third-year tight end taken in the fifth round and a 34-year-old running back who was let go in August...
Go to LINK to see full read w/chart/photos and video at top of the page.
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http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/14363989/russell-wilson-playing-best-qb-second-half-ot-season-nfl
He won't win MVP, but nobody is outplaying Russell Wilson...Seattle's star quarterback just put up what could very well be considered the best four-game stretch in modern NFL history.
...Since losing to the Cardinals in Week 10, Wilson's numbers are surreal... He has gone 89-for-118 for 1,171 passing yards. That's a staggering 75.4 percent completion percentage and an average of 9.9 yards per pass attempt. Even more impressively, he has thrown 16 touchdowns without a single interception.
It all adds up to a passer rating of 145.9. Pro-football-reference.com has game logs for quarterbacks going back through the 1960 season, 10 years before the AFL-NFL merger.
Do you know how many quarterbacks have thrown 100 or more attempts over a four-game stretch and posted a better passer rating over that span than Wilson? Zero. It has never happened before:
(Click link to article to see chart and rest of article)
...it's totally reasonable to say that Russell Wilson has just wrapped up one of the best quarter-seasons the league has ever seen.
And, of course, there are reasons to argue that Wilson has had it harder than most. He lost the guy who was nominally designed to be his top receiver, Jimmy Graham, to a season-ending injury halfway through this stretch. Wilson's top offensive weapon, Marshawn Lynch, hasn't been around for the entirety of this run, having last played against the Cardinals in Week 10. He lost undrafted rookie Thomas Rawls to a broken ankle early Sunday. His receiving corps currently consists of two undrafted free agent wide receivers, a rookie third-rounder who was the 10th wideout taken in this year's draft, a third-year tight end taken in the fifth round and a 34-year-old running back who was let go in August...
tommyGunZ
Footballguy
Made the semi's in 3/4 leagues, leading all 3 in total points on the season.
Willlllllllllllllsooooonnnnnnnnn
Ladsud
Footballguy
Browns coach Mike Pettine said Wednesday that he would not include Russell Wilson in the top tier of NFL quarterbacks.
"Would you put him there with the guys that can transcend their supporting cast?" Pettine asked rhetorically. "The Bradys, whether it's Aaron Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, the ones that you would consider the two, three, four elite guys? No. But he's certainly played himself into that next tier." Pettine indicated he believes Wilson's success is a "function" of Wilson's supporting cast -- a supporting cast that this year has included one of the NFL's worst offensive lines, the loss of Jimmy Graham to a torn patellar tendon, an injury-decimated running game, and no prototype No. 1 receiver. "He plays at a high level, he's very productive and they win," Pettine continued. "Now a lot of that I think is a function, too, is he's the perfect quarterback for what they do. To me it goes both ways."
"Would you put him there with the guys that can transcend their supporting cast?" Pettine asked rhetorically. "The Bradys, whether it's Aaron Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, the ones that you would consider the two, three, four elite guys? No. But he's certainly played himself into that next tier." Pettine indicated he believes Wilson's success is a "function" of Wilson's supporting cast -- a supporting cast that this year has included one of the NFL's worst offensive lines, the loss of Jimmy Graham to a torn patellar tendon, an injury-decimated running game, and no prototype No. 1 receiver. "He plays at a high level, he's very productive and they win," Pettine continued. "Now a lot of that I think is a function, too, is he's the perfect quarterback for what they do. To me it goes both ways."
CalBear
Footballguy
Wilson destroys Luck in every rate stat.
Completions: 64.7% to 58.1%
YPA: 8.1 to 7.0
Passer rating: 101.3 to 85.0
Rushing YPA: 5.9 to 5.0
TD%: 6.0 to 4.8
INT%: 2.0 to 2.6
In terms of what they've actually done on the field, Luck can't sniff Wilson's jock strap.
If you wanna play the "what if" game, give Wilson Luck's hype and 150 more passing attempts a season.
Run It Up
Footballguy
wat
I really like Wilson, but you're deluding yourself.
At times Wilson has outplayed the Staffords, the Lucks, the Daltons, the Ryans, the Newtons. But hes absolutely in that second tier with all those guys.
Hes not in the realm of Brady, Rodgers, Brees, Roethlisberger, Rivers and if we're talking the past 4 years, Peyton - hes got quite a few years of a level of production he has never reached to still go to be even considered. I do think he has the trajectory though, he seems like he has limitless potential, I feel like he could end up somewhere between Rodgers and Brady but he needs to improve and hes got plenty of time.
But just like Newton, hes been pedestrian much of the year, but has been on fire the last few weeks.
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The General
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I'm taking Wilson over Palmer and Cam all day long. Taking him over Luck this year as well, we'll see if Luck comes back next year. He was not good this year at all regardless of his line or skill players around him or whatever other excuse people want to use.
Bracie Smathers
Footballguy
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Awful White QBs @AwfulWhiteQBs 18h18 hours ago
In the last 10 years, QBs averaging 30+ rushing yards per game are 173-123-1 (58%), dominating a league in which only 6% of QBs did this.
Russell WIlson career rushing statistics:
- 395 rushig attempts
- 2,333 rushing yards
- 61 games started
- 38.245 rushing yards per game started
Awful White QBs @AwfulWhiteQBs 18h18 hours ago
In the last 10 years, QBs averaging 30+ rushing yards per game are 173-123-1 (58%), dominating a league in which only 6% of QBs did this.
Russell WIlson career rushing statistics:
- 395 rushig attempts
- 2,333 rushing yards
- 61 games started
- 38.245 rushing yards per game started
dirtyjay
Footballguy
Over Cam? Over Luck?
This is what happens, people become such prisoners of the moment. We will see if Luck comes back?
Excuses? What does a line have to do with it? I dont know, tell me why Wilson was so bad early on if line doesnt matter.
So how about the stretch of 7 games with only 1 TD for Wilson?
Until week 10 he had 10 total TDs, 10. Thats it. 10 to go along with 9 turnovers.
He has been on fire and always people will become prisoner of the moment.
I get it, he is on your teams and this hot stretch has helped you.
No way I take him over Luck in fantasy or real life just because he had a hot 4 or 5 games.
Give luck this same offense and defense.
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dirtyjay
Footballguy
He is out playing Brady?
He is out playing Cam?
He is out playing Palmer?
He is out playing Rodgers?
This is exactly what happens when a player gets hot, people get excited and lose their minds.
I can make a case that Bortles is playing better than him this season.
Just look at Wilsons first 10 games, get back to me.
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fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Thank God the season lasts longer than 10 games. Otherwise Wilson sure would suck.
The General
Footballguy
Over Cam for sure. Wilson is just better. I do like Cam though of course. And Luck, Palmer.dirtyjay said:MG345 said:Over Cam? Over Luck?The General said:
This is what happens, people become such prisoners of the moment. We will see if Luck comes back?
Excuses? What does a line have to do with it? I dont know, tell me why Wilson was so bad early on if line doesnt matter.
So how about the stretch of 7 games with only 1 TD for Wilson?
Until week 10 he had 10 total TDs, 10. Thats it. 10 to go along with 9 turnovers.
He has been on fire and always people will become prisoner of the moment.
I get it, he is on your teams and this hot stretch has helped you.
No way I take him over Luck in fantasy or real life just because he had a hot 4 or 5 games.
Give luck this same offense and defense.
I'm taking Wilson if game is on the line over anyone except Brady and Rodgers. Put Ben up there as well.
dirtyjay
Footballguy
Good, because he will throw an interception.Over Cam for sure. Wilson is just better. I do like Cam though of course. And Luck, Palmer.dirtyjay said:MG345 said:Over Cam? Over Luck?The General said:
This is what happens, people become such prisoners of the moment. We will see if Luck comes back?
Excuses? What does a line have to do with it? I dont know, tell me why Wilson was so bad early on if line doesnt matter.
So how about the stretch of 7 games with only 1 TD for Wilson?
Until week 10 he had 10 total TDs, 10. Thats it. 10 to go along with 9 turnovers.
He has been on fire and always people will become prisoner of the moment.
I get it, he is on your teams and this hot stretch has helped you.
No way I take him over Luck in fantasy or real life just because he had a hot 4 or 5 games.
Give luck this same offense and defense.
I'm taking Wilson if game is on the line over anyone except Brady and Rodgers. Put Ben up there as well.
MG345
Footballguy
Yep, better than all of those players over the course of the season, and better than most of those players the last 4 years. The numbers don't lie, and neither do the wins. Yes, he has had cold stretches. Even in those stretches he was incredibly efficient with the ball, despite playing behind one of the worst lines in the league. It isn't like his passer rating, completion %, deep ball efficiency, etc, all sprung up over night.dirtyjay said:
dirtyjay
Footballguy
The numbers lied to you or you are reading them wrong.
All 4 are better than Russell in fantasy stats in PPR and all have as many if not more wins and one is undefeated.
Are you just trying to be silly, because its working.
To say he has been better than Brady is a flat out ridiculous remark.
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The General
Footballguy
Sick burn. Have watched every QB make a bad throw in much lesser situations. That throw wasn't even awful, dumb call and a great play by Butler.
Wilson in clutch situations is amazing, unreal composure. Maybe we will get to see a little more out of Cam, Palmer this year. Haven't been blown away with those results so far. Would take Wilson over both those guys in playoff game.
Luck may have to wait a few years.
Wilson in clutch situations is amazing, unreal composure. Maybe we will get to see a little more out of Cam, Palmer this year. Haven't been blown away with those results so far. Would take Wilson over both those guys in playoff game.
Luck may have to wait a few years.
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