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WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Of all the falsehoods told about President Barack Obama, the biggest whopper is the one about his reckless spending spree.

As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I will lead us out of this debt and spending inferno.”

Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future. Even Democrats seem to think it’s true.

But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.

Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed to increase spending more than Obama has.

Here are the facts, according to the official government statistics:

• In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.

• In fiscal 2010 — the first budget under Obama — spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.

• In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.

• In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.

• Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook.

Over Obama’s four budget years, federal spending is on track to rise from $3.52 trillion to $3.58 trillion, an annualized increase of just 0.4%.

There has been no huge increase in spending under the current president, despite what you hear.

Why do people think Obama has spent like a drunken sailor? It’s in part because of a fundamental misunderstanding of the federal budget.

What people forget (or never knew) is that the first year of every presidential term starts with a budget approved by the previous administration and Congress. The president only begins to shape the budget in his second year. It takes time to develop a budget and steer it through Congress — especially in these days of congressional gridlock.

The 2009 fiscal year, which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House. The major spending decisions in the 2009 fiscal year were made by George W. Bush and the previous Congress.

Like a relief pitcher who comes into the game with the bases loaded, Obama came in with a budget in place that called for spending to increase by hundreds of billions of dollars in response to the worst economic and financial calamity in generations.

By no means did Obama try to reverse that spending. Indeed, his budget proposals called for even more spending in subsequent years. But the Congress (mostly Republicans but many Democrats, too) stopped him. If Obama had been a king who could impose his will, perhaps what the Republicans are saying about an Obama spending binge would be accurate.

Yet the actual record doesn’t show a reckless increase in spending. Far from it.

Before Obama had even lifted a finger, the CBO was already projecting that the federal deficit would rise to $1.2 trillion in fiscal 2009. The government actually spent less money in 2009 than it was projected to, but the deficit expanded to $1.4 trillion because revenue from taxes fell much further than expected, due to the weak economy and the emergency tax cuts that were part of the stimulus bill.

The projected deficit for the 2010-13 period has grown from an expected $1.7 trillion in January 2009 to $4.4 trillion today. Lower-than-forecast revenue accounts for 73% of the $2.7 trillion increase in the expected deficit. That’s assuming that the Bush and Obama tax cuts are repealed completely.

When Obama took the oath of office, the $789 billion bank bailout had already been approved. Federal spending on unemployment benefits, food stamps and Medicare was already surging to meet the dire unemployment crisis that was well underway. See the CBO’s January 2009 budget outlook.

Obama is not responsible for that increase, though he is responsible (along with the Congress) for about $140 billion in extra spending in the 2009 fiscal year from the stimulus bill, from the expansion of the children’s health-care program and from other appropriations bills passed in the spring of 2009.

If we attribute that $140 billion in stimulus to Obama and not to Bush, we find that spending under Obama grew by about $200 billion over four years, amounting to a 1.4% annualized increase.

After adjusting for inflation, spending under Obama is falling at a 1.4% annual pace — the first decline in real spending since the early 1970s, when Richard Nixon was retreating from the quagmire in Vietnam.

In per capita terms, real spending will drop by nearly 5% from $11,450 per person in 2009 to $10,900 in 2013 (measured in 2009 dollars).

By the way, real government spending rose 12.3% a year in Hoover’s four years. Now there was a guy who knew how to attack a depression by spending government money!

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Whoa whoa whoa....quit trying to use "facts" and stuff. Everybody knows Obama is spending like a drunken sailor because he is a Democrat. Republicans are the only ones we can trust to be fiscally responsible.

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Interesting. Seriously.

But aren't we still saying that for the last five years we've been spending about 16-18% above 2008 budget?

And it's okay because...well Bush did it too...?

Edit: And somehow now Hoover had it right?

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This kind of stuff is why it makes my blood boil to deal with anyone in the NOBAMA crowd.

If you prefer Romney or the GOP platform because those principles are better than what Obama wants to do, fine. I can respect that.

But if you think Obama is the worst president in history or has been a total disaster, you are a ####### brainwashed moron.

The last 4 years have been small adjustments (for the better, IMO) not a complete change of direction.

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This kind of stuff is why it makes my blood boil to deal with anyone in the NOBAMA crowd.If you prefer Romney or the GOP platform because those principles are better than what Obama wants to do, fine. I can respect that.But if you think Obama is the worst president in history or has been a total disaster, you are a ####### brainwashed moron.The last 4 years have been small adjustments (for the better, IMO) not a complete change of direction.

But they've been 4 years of small adjustments from what we've been continually beaten over the head with as The Worst President Evah.So are we saying that Obama is as bad as Bush or that Bush wasn't so bad after all?

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This kind of stuff is why it makes my blood boil to deal with anyone in the NOBAMA crowd.If you prefer Romney or the GOP platform because those principles are better than what Obama wants to do, fine. I can respect that.But if you think Obama is the worst president in history or has been a total disaster, you are a ####### brainwashed moron.The last 4 years have been small adjustments (for the better, IMO) not a complete change of direction.

But they've been 4 years of small adjustments from what we've been continually beaten over the head with as The Worst President Evah.So are we saying that Obama is as bad as Bush or that Bush wasn't so bad after all?
I would go with the former, on most issues.

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This kind of stuff is why it makes my blood boil to deal with anyone in the NOBAMA crowd.If you prefer Romney or the GOP platform because those principles are better than what Obama wants to do, fine. I can respect that.But if you think Obama is the worst president in history or has been a total disaster, you are a ####### brainwashed moron.The last 4 years have been small adjustments (for the better, IMO) not a complete change of direction.

But they've been 4 years of small adjustments from what we've been continually beaten over the head with as The Worst President Evah.So are we saying that Obama is as bad as Bush or that Bush wasn't so bad after all?
The main reasons I consider Bush to be the worst president of my lifetime isn't because of all his policies, but more a single decision and him as a person... 1) He started a major war on false pretenses, and the fact his father didn't go all the way to Baghdad I believe was a factor in his decision. He had a personal reason to start that nearly meaningless war, thousands of US soldiers died, and it wrecked the federal budget.2) He's of average intelligence at best. I want my president to be well spoken, sharp, and presidential. Obama is that. Bush was like the dumb guy in the frathouse, and an embarrassment to our country.I just thank god those years are over. I don't feel that way about Romney.

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The main reasons I consider Bush to be the worst president of my lifetime isn't because of all his policies, but more a single decision and him as a person... 1) He started a major war on false pretenses, and the fact his father didn't go all the way to Baghdad I believe was a factor in his decision. He had a personal reason to start that nearly meaningless war, thousands of US soldiers died, and it wrecked the federal budget.2) He's of average intelligence at best. I want my president to be well spoken, sharp, and presidential. Obama is that. Bush was like the dumb guy in the frathouse, and an embarrassment to our country.

Okay. I can see #1.But discounting that, if a smart guy does the remaining things in nearly the same way as the dumb guy, what does it matter that he's smart?

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Copied: The 2009 fiscal year, which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House. The major spending decisions in the 2009 fiscal year were made by George W. Bush and the previous Congress.

Didn't the Democrats contol both houses of Congress those 2 years? While that budget is not Obama's doing, it certainly lies with the (Democrat controlled?) Congress and also Bush for signing it into law....

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This kind of stuff is why it makes my blood boil to deal with anyone in the NOBAMA crowd.

If you prefer Romney or the GOP platform because those principles are better than what Obama wants to do, fine. I can respect that.

But if you think Obama is the worst president in history or has been a total disaster, you are a ####### brainwashed moron.

The last 4 years have been small adjustments (for the better, IMO) not a complete change of direction.

But they've been 4 years of small adjustments from what we've been continually beaten over the head with as The Worst President Evah.

So are we saying that Obama is as bad as Bush or that Bush wasn't so bad after all?

The main reasons I consider Bush to be the worst president of my lifetime isn't because of all his policies, but more a single decision and him as a person...

1) He started a major war on false pretenses, and the fact his father didn't go all the way to Baghdad I believe was a factor in his decision. He had a personal reason to start that nearly meaningless war, thousands of US soldiers died, and it wrecked the federal budget.

2) He's of average intelligence at best. I want my president to be well spoken, sharp, and presidential. Obama is that. Bush was like the dumb guy in the frathouse, and an embarrassment to our country.

I just thank god those years are over. I don't feel that way about Romney.

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So, it's Bush's fault? Got it.

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these "facts" were ripped to shreds on twitter yesterday.

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But they've been 4 years of small adjustments from what we've been continually beaten over the head with as The Worst President Evah.So are we saying that Obama is as bad as Bush or that Bush wasn't so bad after all?

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what was the average annual budget (not % increase) under Bush?

what has it been under Obama?

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Wait, where is this Obama budget they keep talking about?

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WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) — Of all the falsehoods told about President Barack Obama, the biggest whopper is the one about his reckless spending spree.

As would-be president Mitt Romney tells it: “I will lead us out of this debt and spending inferno.”

Almost everyone believes that Obama has presided over a massive increase in federal spending, an “inferno” of spending that threatens our jobs, our businesses and our children’s future. Even Democrats seem to think it’s true.

But it didn’t happen. Although there was a big stimulus bill under Obama, federal spending is rising at the slowest pace since Dwight Eisenhower brought the Korean War to an end in the 1950s.

Even hapless Herbert Hoover managed to increase spending more than Obama has.

Here are the facts, according to the official government statistics:

• In the 2009 fiscal year — the last of George W. Bush’s presidency — federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Check the official numbers at the Office of Management and Budget.

• In fiscal 2010 — the first budget under Obama — spending fell 1.8% to $3.46 trillion.

• In fiscal 2011, spending rose 4.3% to $3.60 trillion.

• In fiscal 2012, spending is set to rise 0.7% to $3.63 trillion, according to the Congressional Budget Office’s estimate of the budget that was agreed to last August.

• Finally in fiscal 2013 — the final budget of Obama’s term — spending is scheduled to fall 1.3% to $3.58 trillion. Read the CBO’s latest budget outlook.

Over Obama’s four budget years, federal spending is on track to rise from $3.52 trillion to $3.58 trillion, an annualized increase of just 0.4%.

There has been no huge increase in spending under the current president, despite what you hear.

Why do people think Obama has spent like a drunken sailor? It’s in part because of a fundamental misunderstanding of the federal budget.

What people forget (or never knew) is that the first year of every presidential term starts with a budget approved by the previous administration and Congress. The president only begins to shape the budget in his second year. It takes time to develop a budget and steer it through Congress — especially in these days of congressional gridlock.

The 2009 fiscal year, which Republicans count as part of Obama’s legacy, began four months before Obama moved into the White House. The major spending decisions in the 2009 fiscal year were made by George W. Bush and the previous Congress.

Like a relief pitcher who comes into the game with the bases loaded, Obama came in with a budget in place that called for spending to increase by hundreds of billions of dollars in response to the worst economic and financial calamity in generations.

By no means did Obama try to reverse that spending. Indeed, his budget proposals called for even more spending in subsequent years. But the Congress (mostly Republicans but many Democrats, too) stopped him. If Obama had been a king who could impose his will, perhaps what the Republicans are saying about an Obama spending binge would be accurate.

Yet the actual record doesn’t show a reckless increase in spending. Far from it.

Before Obama had even lifted a finger, the CBO was already projecting that the federal deficit would rise to $1.2 trillion in fiscal 2009. The government actually spent less money in 2009 than it was projected to, but the deficit expanded to $1.4 trillion because revenue from taxes fell much further than expected, due to the weak economy and the emergency tax cuts that were part of the stimulus bill.

The projected deficit for the 2010-13 period has grown from an expected $1.7 trillion in January 2009 to $4.4 trillion today. Lower-than-forecast revenue accounts for 73% of the $2.7 trillion increase in the expected deficit. That’s assuming that the Bush and Obama tax cuts are repealed completely.

When Obama took the oath of office, the $789 billion bank bailout had already been approved. Federal spending on unemployment benefits, food stamps and Medicare was already surging to meet the dire unemployment crisis that was well underway. See the CBO’s January 2009 budget outlook.

Obama is not responsible for that increase, though he is responsible (along with the Congress) for about $140 billion in extra spending in the 2009 fiscal year from the stimulus bill, from the expansion of the children’s health-care program and from other appropriations bills passed in the spring of 2009.

If we attribute that $140 billion in stimulus to Obama and not to Bush, we find that spending under Obama grew by about $200 billion over four years, amounting to a 1.4% annualized increase.

After adjusting for inflation, spending under Obama is falling at a 1.4% annual pace — the first decline in real spending since the early 1970s, when Richard Nixon was retreating from the quagmire in Vietnam.

In per capita terms, real spending will drop by nearly 5% from $11,450 per person in 2009 to $10,900 in 2013 (measured in 2009 dollars).

By the way, real government spending rose 12.3% a year in Hoover’s four years. Now there was a guy who knew how to attack a depression by spending government money!

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Just a few facts.
What was the budget for fy2009?

That seems pretty important to me.

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these "facts" were ripped to shreds on twitter yesterday.

Can you post the rebutal?

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The main reasons I consider Bush to be the worst president of my lifetime isn't because of all his policies, but more a single decision and him as a person... 1) He started a major war on false pretenses, and the fact his father didn't go all the way to Baghdad I believe was a factor in his decision. He had a personal reason to start that nearly meaningless war, thousands of US soldiers died, and it wrecked the federal budget.2) He's of average intelligence at best. I want my president to be well spoken, sharp, and presidential. Obama is that. Bush was like the dumb guy in the frathouse, and an embarrassment to our country.

Okay. I can see #1.But discounting that, if a smart guy does the remaining things in nearly the same way as the dumb guy, what does it matter that he's smart?
Geez, I don't even know where to start and it's lunchtime... I think the Obama administration operates in a completely different way than the Bush administration and central to that is Obama himself. The most important things about a president IMO are decision making, leadership, and how they cause the US to viewed around the world.I'd also say I'd expect Obama to push his agenda more in a 2nd term. With what was handed to him in '08 it was a necessity to maintain the economic recovery course, and wind down the wars.

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2013 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2012 by President Obama)

2012 United States federal budget - $3.7 trillion (submitted 2011 by President Obama)

2011 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2010 by President Obama)

2010 United States federal budget - $3.6 trillion (submitted 2009 by President Obama)

2009 United States federal budget - $3.1 trillion (submitted 2008 by President Bush)

2008 United States federal budget - $2.9 trillion (submitted 2007 by President Bush)

2007 United States federal budget - $2.8 trillion (submitted 2006 by President Bush)

2006 United States federal budget - $2.7 trillion (submitted 2005 by President Bush)

2005 United States federal budget - $2.4 trillion (submitted 2004 by President Bush)

2004 United States federal budget - $2.3 trillion (submitted 2003 by President Bush)

2003 United States federal budget - $2.2 trillion (submitted 2002 by President Bush)

2002 United States federal budget - $2.0 trillion (submitted 2001 by President Bush)

2001 United States federal budget - $1.9 trillion (submitted 2000 by President Clinton)

2000 United States federal budget - $1.8 trillion (submitted 1999 by President Clinton)

1999 United States federal budget - $1.7 trillion (submitted 1998 by President Clinton)

1998 United States federal budget - $1.7 trillion (submitted 1997 by President Clinton)

1997 United States federal budget - $1.6 trillion (submitted 1996 by President Clinton)

1996 United States federal budget - $1.6 trillion (submitted 1995 by President Clinton)

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True or false.

Considerably more money will be spent during Obama's first 4 years than any other president did in any 4 year stretch.

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What is Obama's cumulative deficit?Seems pretty important to me.

Why? Receipts are way, way down due to the Great Recession. Social spending necessarily increases during recessions (duh) so unless you actually expected him to cut spending while in the midst of a recession, blaming him for deficits that are largely due to the economic downturn seems ridiculous.

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Geez, I don't even know where to start and it's lunchtime... I think the Obama administration operates in a completely different way than the Bush administration and central to that is Obama himself. The most important things about a president IMO are decision making, leadership, and how they cause the US to viewed around the world.

I'd also say I'd expect Obama to push his agenda more in a 2nd term. With what was handed to him in '08 it was a necessity to maintain the economic recovery course, and wind down the wars.

Okay, but you're still saying that Obama is doing pretty much the same that Bush did, simply with more panache.

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By no means did Obama try to reverse that spending. Indeed, his budget proposals called for even more spending in subsequent years. But the Congress (mostly Republicans but many Democrats, too) stopped him. If Obama had been a king who could impose his will, perhaps what the Republicans are saying about an Obama spending binge would be accurate.

Please rename thread to "Obama spending binge never happened, thanks to the mostly Republican but many Democrats, too, Congress". Thanks!

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What is Obama's cumulative deficit?Seems pretty important to me.

Why? Receipts are way, way down due to the Great Recession. Social spending necessarily increases during recessions (duh) so unless you actually expected him to cut spending while in the midst of a recession, blaming him for deficits that are largely due to the economic downturn seems ridiculous.
So do you know the numbers and don't want to post them?

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2013 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2012 by President Obama)

2012 United States federal budget - $3.7 trillion (submitted 2011 by President Obama)

2011 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2010 by President Obama)

2010 United States federal budget - $3.6 trillion (submitted 2009 by President Obama)

2009 United States federal budget - $3.1 trillion (submitted 2008 by President Bush)

2008 United States federal budget - $2.9 trillion (submitted 2007 by President Bush)

2007 United States federal budget - $2.8 trillion (submitted 2006 by President Bush)

2006 United States federal budget - $2.7 trillion (submitted 2005 by President Bush)

2005 United States federal budget - $2.4 trillion (submitted 2004 by President Bush)

2004 United States federal budget - $2.3 trillion (submitted 2003 by President Bush)

2003 United States federal budget - $2.2 trillion (submitted 2002 by President Bush)

2002 United States federal budget - $2.0 trillion (submitted 2001 by President Bush)

2001 United States federal budget - $1.9 trillion (submitted 2000 by President Clinton)

2000 United States federal budget - $1.8 trillion (submitted 1999 by President Clinton)

1999 United States federal budget - $1.7 trillion (submitted 1998 by President Clinton)

1998 United States federal budget - $1.7 trillion (submitted 1997 by President Clinton)

1997 United States federal budget - $1.6 trillion (submitted 1996 by President Clinton)

1996 United States federal budget - $1.6 trillion (submitted 1995 by President Clinton)

It's also important to note that one of the first things the Obama administration did when entering office was to put spending on the two wars in the budget, whereas Bush and Co. kept that spending out of the federal budget every year in order to make gov't spending appear smaller.

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The main reasons I consider Bush to be the worst president of my lifetime isn't because of all his policies, but more a single decision and him as a person...

1) He started a major war on false pretenses, and the fact his father didn't go all the way to Baghdad I believe was a factor in his decision. He had a personal reason to start that nearly meaningless war, thousands of US soldiers died, and it wrecked the federal budget.

2) He's of average intelligence at best. I want my president to be well spoken, sharp, and presidential. Obama is that. Bush was like the dumb guy in the frathouse, and an embarrassment to our country.

Okay. I can see #1.

But discounting that, if a smart guy does the remaining things in nearly the same way as the dumb guy, what does it matter that he's smart?

Geez, I don't even know where to start and it's lunchtime... I think the Obama administration operates in a completely different way than the Bush administration and central to that is Obama himself. The most important things about a president IMO are decision making, leadership, and how they cause the US to viewed around the world.

I'd also say I'd expect Obama to push his agenda more in a 2nd term. With what was handed to him in '08 it was a necessity to maintain the economic recovery course, and wind down the wars.

Every President inherits problems from many past presidents. Leadership is not using that as an excuse. Leadership is fixing them.

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2) He's of average intelligence at best. I want my president to be well spoken, sharp, and presidential. Obama is that. Bush was like the dumb guy in the frathouse, and an embarrassment to our country.

Obama is more well-spoken than Bush but no more intelligent.

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2013 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2012 by President Obama)

2012 United States federal budget - $3.7 trillion (submitted 2011 by President Obama)

2011 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2010 by President Obama)

2010 United States federal budget - $3.6 trillion (submitted 2009 by President Obama)

2009 United States federal budget - $3.1 trillion (submitted 2008 by President Bush)

2008 United States federal budget - $2.9 trillion (submitted 2007 by President Bush)

2007 United States federal budget - $2.8 trillion (submitted 2006 by President Bush)

2006 United States federal budget - $2.7 trillion (submitted 2005 by President Bush)

2005 United States federal budget - $2.4 trillion (submitted 2004 by President Bush)

2004 United States federal budget - $2.3 trillion (submitted 2003 by President Bush)

2003 United States federal budget - $2.2 trillion (submitted 2002 by President Bush)

2002 United States federal budget - $2.0 trillion (submitted 2001 by President Bush)

2001 United States federal budget - $1.9 trillion (submitted 2000 by President Clinton)

2000 United States federal budget - $1.8 trillion (submitted 1999 by President Clinton)

1999 United States federal budget - $1.7 trillion (submitted 1998 by President Clinton)

1998 United States federal budget - $1.7 trillion (submitted 1997 by President Clinton)

1997 United States federal budget - $1.6 trillion (submitted 1996 by President Clinton)

1996 United States federal budget - $1.6 trillion (submitted 1995 by President Clinton)

It's also important to note that one of the first things the Obama administration did when entering office was to put spending on the two wars in the budget, whereas Bush and Co. kept that spending out of the federal budget every year in order to make gov't spending appear smaller.
So this is not an apples to apples comparison? What would the numbers look like had Obama left them off the budget?

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2013 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2012 by President Obama)

2012 United States federal budget - $3.7 trillion (submitted 2011 by President Obama)

2011 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2010 by President Obama)

2010 United States federal budget - $3.6 trillion (submitted 2009 by President Obama)

2009 United States federal budget - $3.1 trillion (submitted 2008 by President Bush)

2008 United States federal budget - $2.9 trillion (submitted 2007 by President Bush)

2007 United States federal budget - $2.8 trillion (submitted 2006 by President Bush)

2006 United States federal budget - $2.7 trillion (submitted 2005 by President Bush)

2005 United States federal budget - $2.4 trillion (submitted 2004 by President Bush)

2004 United States federal budget - $2.3 trillion (submitted 2003 by President Bush)

2003 United States federal budget - $2.2 trillion (submitted 2002 by President Bush)

2002 United States federal budget - $2.0 trillion (submitted 2001 by President Bush)

2001 United States federal budget - $1.9 trillion (submitted 2000 by President Clinton)

2000 United States federal budget - $1.8 trillion (submitted 1999 by President Clinton)

1999 United States federal budget - $1.7 trillion (submitted 1998 by President Clinton)

1998 United States federal budget - $1.7 trillion (submitted 1997 by President Clinton)

1997 United States federal budget - $1.6 trillion (submitted 1996 by President Clinton)

1996 United States federal budget - $1.6 trillion (submitted 1995 by President Clinton)

It's also important to note that one of the first things the Obama administration did when entering office was to put spending on the two wars in the budget, whereas Bush and Co. kept that spending out of the federal budget every year in order to make gov't spending appear smaller.
damn :goodposting:

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2) He's of average intelligence at best. I want my president to be well spoken, sharp, and presidential. Obama is that. Bush was like the dumb guy in the frathouse, and an embarrassment to our country.

The Former White House Director for Space Policy, who has actually interacted with GWB, greatly disagrees with you in a Slate article:

GWB is extraordinarily intelligent

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2013 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2012 by President Obama)

2012 United States federal budget - $3.7 trillion (submitted 2011 by President Obama)

2011 United States federal budget - $3.8 trillion (submitted 2010 by President Obama)

2010 United States federal budget - $3.6 trillion (submitted 2009 by President Obama)

2009 United States federal budget - $3.1 trillion (submitted 2008 by President Bush)

2008 United States federal budget - $2.9 trillion (submitted 2007 by President Bush)

2007 United States federal budget - $2.8 trillion (submitted 2006 by President Bush)

2006 United States federal budget - $2.7 trillion (submitted 2005 by President Bush)

2005 United States federal budget - $2.4 trillion (submitted 2004 by President Bush)

2004 United States federal budget - $2.3 trillion (submitted 2003 by President Bush)

2003 United States federal budget - $2.2 trillion (submitted 2002 by President Bush)

2002 United States federal budget - $2.0 trillion (submitted 2001 by President Bush)

2001 United States federal budget - $1.9 trillion (submitted 2000 by President Clinton)

2000 United States federal budget - $1.8 trillion (submitted 1999 by President Clinton)

1999 United States federal budget - $1.7 trillion (submitted 1998 by President Clinton)

1998 United States federal budget - $1.7 trillion (submitted 1997 by President Clinton)

1997 United States federal budget - $1.6 trillion (submitted 1996 by President Clinton)

1996 United States federal budget - $1.6 trillion (submitted 1995 by President Clinton)

It's also important to note that one of the first things the Obama administration did when entering office was to put spending on the two wars in the budget, whereas Bush and Co. kept that spending out of the federal budget every year in order to make gov't spending appear smaller.
So are you saying that the numbers linked to in the OP don't reflect any war spending?

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2) He's of average intelligence at best. I want my president to be well spoken, sharp, and presidential. Obama is that. Bush was like the dumb guy in the frathouse, and an embarrassment to our country.

Obama is more well-spoken than Bush but no more intelligent.
You can't be serious.

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2) He's of average intelligence at best. I want my president to be well spoken, sharp, and presidential. Obama is that. Bush was like the dumb guy in the frathouse, and an embarrassment to our country.

Obama is more well-spoken than Bush but no more intelligent.
You can't be serious.
Shirley?

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