***Official*** 2012 FBG Subscriber Contest Thread (3 Viewers)

'cdubz said:

Totally understand your line of thought, and I agree. The issue is that if they perform too poorly you are also out - so it leads to some paradoxical rooting interests.

For example, for purposes of the contest I was quite happy with Julio's performance last night to thin him out a bit.

Also, I have Graham + Hernandez + Dwayne Allen at TE. I think my ideal scenario here is for Hernandez to sit out until week 6 to thin his ownership, but would really like him back for Graham's bye week.

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'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

'Tennessee_ATO said:

It's interesting to me that everyone cheers for owners of other players to be eliminated early in order to help their teams. At some level I get that, but I actually want owners of my players to be eliminated in the early weeks. I figure if, say, all S. Jackson and Forte owners besides me are gone and those guys throw-up big numbers late, I get a huge bump against the field. As the season wears on, I shift my cheering for owners of other players to be eliminated. In the early going, however, I want to become part of a very small group of owners for all of my players.

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This is the basis for the closely related theory that it's better to barely skate by the cut in the early weeks as opposed to putting up big scores. Not because you're "wasting points," but because it's assumed that if you just barely make the cut, then a lot of teams similar to your own will get eliminated. If you think uniqueness is important, then this might be plausible.

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'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

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SIZE	ALL	ALIVE	SURV%	AVG W218	4633	3768	81.3%	161.7819	1813	1473	81.2%	162.2420	1377	1158	84.1%	162.0421	1146	950	82.9%	163.5722	966	806	83.4%	163.0023	814	681	83.7%	163.6224	627	529	84.4%	163.3925	484	407	84.1%	164.9526	384	328	85.4%	165.5827	312	271	86.9%	165.5528	230	196	85.2%	164.3829	193	169	87.6%	167.1430	339	291	85.8%	165.32TOT	13318	11027	82.8%	162.83

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'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

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'Tennessee_ATO said:

It's interesting to me that everyone cheers for owners of other players to be eliminated early in order to help their teams. At some level I get that, but I actually want owners of my players to be eliminated in the early weeks. I figure if, say, all S. Jackson and Forte owners besides me are gone and those guys throw-up big numbers late, I get a huge bump against the field. As the season wears on, I shift my cheering for owners of other players to be eliminated. In the early going, however, I want to become part of a very small group of owners for all of my players.

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'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

112812

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'FF Ninja said:

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

SIZE ALL ALIVE SURV% AVG W218 4633 3768 81.3% 161.7819 1813 1473 81.2% 162.2420 1377 1158 84.1% 162.0421 1146 950 82.9% 163.5722 966 806 83.4% 163.0023 814 681 83.7% 163.6224 627 529 84.4% 163.3925 484 407 84.1% 164.9526 384 328 85.4% 165.5827 312 271 86.9% 165.5528 230 196 85.2% 164.3829 193 169 87.6% 167.1430 339 291 85.8% 165.32TOT 13318 11027 82.8% 162.83

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Where do you find this? I hope you are right about it being good to barely make the cut. Out of 21 RB/WR/TE (30-man total) I managed only 3 TDs and one was Andre Roberts So I'm part of the reason 30-man rosters didn't hold up as well as 29. 147.60

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'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

Here's a table showing the survival rates for teams that owned each player. It's pretty long so I put it in spoilers (I thought there was a way to add a scrolling code box but it doesn't seem to be working?)

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PLAYER                        	PRICE	ALL	ALIVE	SURV%Matt Moore                    	$6	5	5	100.0%David Garrard                 	$6	11	6	54.5%

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'QuizGuy66 said:

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

Here's a table showing the survival rates for teams that owned each player. It's pretty long so I put it in spoilers (I thought there was a way to add a scrolling code box but it doesn't seem to be working?)

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PLAYER                        	PRICE	ALL	ALIVE	SURV%Matt Moore                    	$6	5	5	100.0%David Garrard                 	$6	11	6	54.5%

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I thought this was pretty funny somehow.-QG

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'Tennessee_ATO said:

I don't think uniqueness is particularly important for uniqueness's sake. My thought process in this regard is not terribly different than I tried to articulate about projections -- in week 2 I still feel comfortable with my original projections/thoughts about players (injuries and roll changes excepted of course) to feel that they were generally accurate. At this point in the season, I don't have enough data to make me conclude that I blew any of my picks. As such, I am still of the general opinion that I drafted the "right" team -- as I would imagine most owners who are still alive feel about their respective teams. At the end of the day, no one drafted player X thinking he was the "wrong" choice. To be sure, as the season wears on and we get more data, I may conclude that player X was a really crappy choice for inclusion on my team and realize that if I fare well it will be IN SPITE of him not BECAUSE of him. At that point, I'm forced to root against owners of other superior players at that position. Right now, however, I still like my team about as much as when I picked it.

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'BassNBrew said:

Made the final 250 for the first time ever. Thank you Floyd for coming back this week and even a bigger thank you Lord Stephens-Howling whose OT heorics were the difference at my flex postion.

I think I'm in the top 100 total scores for the year, however I have zero chance to finish in the big money. My roster is completely covered by the field...

Brady 13%, Stafford >50%

Wells 50%, Bush 30%, Tate >50%, Barber and Jones around 20%

VJ 30%, Floyd 20%, Moore 35%, Manningham 16%, Moore 40%, Brown >50%, Burleson >50%

Graham 40%, Kendricks 40%

Even my kickers and Ds are roughly around 20% ownership.

My only real difference makers are Brady and Pettigrew. The one commonly held guy that I don't have is Ray Rice and he's the one I would need to be competitive.

I think I'm pretty much locked into a 75th to 175th finish.

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'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

I built my own database of all the entries in the contest. Each week I'll usually post some summary stats like this, as well as anything else I find interesting or relevant to the discussion at that time. FBG provides this querier where you can look up some very general information on your own, as well.

I don't actually know if it's good to barely make the cut. I actually suspect it's probably not good, in terms of predicting your success in later weeks. But, in theory, if you value uniqueness, then being close to the cut would seem to be more likely to weed out teams similar to your own. If you score 200+, then everyone with the same players as you probably also had a great week.

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'QuizGuy66 said:

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

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And Winslow is apparently going to sign with the Pats -QG

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'Stephen Holloway said:

Ooooooooooooooooooooof my earliest dismissal ever. I followed up a 190s week one effort with a 90s week two effort. I had double digit scoring from a slew of my roster in week one and only from two guys in week two.

Very disappointed that I will not be tagging along any longer this year. This is an exciting contest and I wish you guys that are so active in this thread the best of luck and long life in the weeks ahead.

Adios

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'dbc925 said:

OR, you can be like me and review your team after the deadline to find that all three of your QBs are sitting in week 7 - Pretty sure I won't be around in week 8.

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'FF Ninja said:

Interesting. I like the querier. I would have to assume Amendola has the highest survival rate at 98.78% this week. You really, really had to screw up not to make the cut with Amendola.

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'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

Here's a table showing the survival rates for teams that owned each player. It's pretty long so I put it in spoilers (I thought there was a way to add a scrolling code box but it doesn't seem to be working?)

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PLAYER                        	PRICE	ALL	ALIVE	SURV%Jerrel Jernigan               	$3	11	11	100.0%Matt Moore                    	$6	5	5	100.0%Danny Amendola                	$6	2701	2668	98.8%Hakeem Nicks                  	$21	436	430	98.6%Reggie Bush                   	$20	564	550	97.5%C.J. Spiller                  	$15	469	457	97.4%Brent Celek                   	$12	776	754	97.2%Dwayne Bowe                   	$17	704	684	97.2%Victor Cruz                   	$22	1053	1023	97.2%Donnie Avery                  	$5	95	91	95.8%Vernon Davis                  	$17	1086	1033	95.1%Willis McGahee                	$16	1378	1307	94.8%Trent Richardson              	$28	114	108	94.7%Miles Austin                  	$20	129	122	94.6%Darren Sproles                	$23	1278	1205	94.3%Roddy White                   	$23	397	374	94.2%Brian Hartline                	$6	68	64	94.1%Tony Gonzalez                 	$13	786	739	94.0%Ben Tate                      	$12	990	925	93.4%James Starks                  	$17	30	28	93.3%Pierre Thomas                 	$10	246	229	93.1%Eli Manning                   	$21	491	457	93.1%Martellus Bennett             	$4	1242	1151	92.7%LaRod Stephens-Howling        	$3	40	37	92.5%Vincent Jackson               	$19	298	275	92.3%Rob Gronkowski                	$28	871	802	92.1%Todd Heap                     	$3	213	195	91.5%Jackie Battle                 	$2	59	54	91.5%Reggie Wayne                  	$15	1306	1195	91.5%Percy Harvin                  	$20	1703	1558	91.5%Arian Foster                  	$34	2023	1850	91.4%Jimmy Graham                  	$29	3111	2843	91.4%Danario Alexander             	$3	23	21	91.3%Brian Leonard                 	$2	68	62	91.2%Leonard Hankerson             	$4	361	329	91.1%Brandon Myers                 	$2	33	30	90.9%Greg Little                   	$12	530	481	90.8%Armon Binns                   	$3	54	49	90.7%Owen Daniels                  	$11	770	694	90.1%Danny Ware                    	$4	40	36	90.0%Deji Karim                    	$2	20	18	90.0%Jerricho Cotchery             	$3	60	54	90.0%Washington Redskins           	$3	742	667	89.9%Mike Goodson                  	$6	148	133	89.9%Mohamed Massaquoi             	$3	138	124	89.9%Frank Gore                    	$19	561	504	89.8%Brandon LaFell                	$10	751	674	89.7%Lawrence Tynes                	$3	1314	1178	89.6%DeSean Jackson                	$18	597	535	89.6%Sam Bradford                  	$10	587	526	89.6%Mike Williams                 	$11	279	250	89.6%Tim Hightower                 	$7	104	93	89.4%Early Doucet                  	$3	113	101	89.4%Jason Hanson                  	$4	2219	1981	89.3%Demaryius Thomas              	$22	205	183	89.3%Buffalo Bills                 	$5	1609	1435	89.2%Malcom Floyd                  	$13	710	633	89.2%Connor Barth                  	$3	283	252	89.0%Ben Obomanu                   	$3	36	32	88.9%Stephen Gostkowski            	$6	819	727	88.8%Scott Chandler                	$6	774	687	88.8%Robert Griffin III            	$17	1424	1263	88.7%Green Bay Packers             	$6	584	517	88.5%Devin Aromashodu              	$2	87	77	88.5%Mike Wallace                  	$16	1629	1438	88.3%Indianapolis Colts            	$3	196	173	88.3%Michael Crabtree              	$11	579	511	88.3%Marshawn Lynch                	$19	2461	2170	88.2%Heath Miller                  	$7	606	534	88.1%Tampa Bay Buccaneers          	$4	117	103	88.0%LaMichael James               	$3	83	73	88.0%Kyle Williams                 	$2	33	29	87.9%Bernard Scott                 	$4	230	202	87.8%Mason Crosby                  	$5	1429	1252	87.6%San Diego Chargers            	$4	313	274	87.5%Bernard Pierce                	$3	119	104	87.4%Atlanta Falcons               	$4	491	429	87.4%Carolina Panthers             	$3	483	421	87.2%Adam Vinatieri                	$3	832	724	87.0%Ben Roethlisberger            	$18	322	280	87.0%Kevin Walter                  	$4	306	266	86.9%Ray Rice                      	$33	2421	2104	86.9%Donald Driver                 	$2	831	722	86.9%Donald Jones                  	$4	129	112	86.8%Harry Douglas                 	$3	484	420	86.8%Chris Givens                  	$3	30	26	86.7%Mike Nugent                   	$3	921	798	86.6%Philip Rivers                 	$23	97	84	86.6%Cam Newton                    	$28	430	372	86.5%A.J. Green                    	$22	1271	1099	86.5%Josh Morgan                   	$3	133	115	86.5%Jacoby Jones                  	$2	140	121	86.4%Cedric Benson                 	$3	6898	5953	86.3%Dallas Clark                  	$7	372	321	86.3%Dennis Pitta                  	$5	145	125	86.2%Phil Dawson                   	$3	261	225	86.2%Davone Bess                   	$6	848	731	86.2%Ronnie Brown                  	$2	1295	1115	86.1%Dwayne Allen                  	$2	811	698	86.1%Wes Welker                    	$23	609	524	86.0%Blair Walsh                   	$3	233	200	85.8%Mike Thomas                   	$2	155	133	85.8%Brandon Jacobs                	$5	176	151	85.8%Steve Smith                   	$20	352	302	85.8%Calvin Johnson                	$29	4016	3444	85.8%Montario Hardesty             	$3	310	265	85.5%Legedu Naanee                 	$3	165	141	85.5%Felix Jones                   	$9	171	146	85.4%Matt Cassel                   	$9	365	311	85.2%Michael Jenkins               	$3	27	23	85.2%Randy McMichael               	$2	108	92	85.2%Bear Pascoe                   	$4	47	40	85.1%Jason Hill                    	$2	47	40	85.1%Damian Williams               	$2	134	114	85.1%Jonathan Stewart              	$16	194	165	85.1%Riley Cooper                  	$3	20	17	85.0%Seattle Seahawks              	$4	3222	2737	84.9%Tennessee Titans              	$4	166	141	84.9%Christian Ponder              	$9	430	365	84.9%Kevin Boss                    	$2	337	286	84.9%Jay Feely                     	$3	185	157	84.9%Dexter McCluster              	$3	897	761	84.8%BenJarvus Green-Ellis         	$17	923	783	84.8%Alex Green                    	$6	158	134	84.8%Cincinnati Bengals            	$3	1860	1577	84.8%Antonio Brown                 	$17	2735	2318	84.8%Sidney Rice                   	$14	203	172	84.7%Ryan Fitzpatrick              	$11	746	632	84.7%Laurent Robinson              	$6	281	238	84.7%David Akers                   	$6	941	797	84.7%Andrew Luck                   	$11	3181	2691	84.6%Brandon Pettigrew             	$15	1408	1190	84.5%Jahvid Best                   	$6	200	169	84.5%Ryan Tannehill                	$4	1416	1196	84.5%Jason Witten                  	$21	45	38	84.4%Steve Johnson                 	$18	699	590	84.4%Mike Tolbert                  	$4	255	215	84.3%Mario Manningham              	$4	776	654	84.3%Andre Roberts                 	$3	267	225	84.3%Greg Zuerlein                 	$3	648	546	84.3%Shaun Suisham                 	$3	736	620	84.2%Joel Dreessen                 	$4	505	425	84.2%Santonio Holmes               	$15	63	53	84.1%Maurice Jones-Drew            	$25	308	259	84.1%St. Louis Rams                	$3	251	211	84.1%Baltimore Ravens              	$5	1100	924	84.0%Danny Coale                   	$2	31	26	83.9%Steve Hauschka                	$3	415	348	83.9%LeSean McCoy                  	$32	1996	1673	83.8%Jason Avant                   	$5	117	98	83.8%Denarius Moore                	$18	123	103	83.7%Rueben Randle                 	$4	258	216	83.7%Jordy Nelson                  	$20	2134	1786	83.7%Rashard Mendenhall            	$4	2426	2030	83.7%John Carlson                  	$2	153	128	83.7%Eddie Royal                   	$2	1493	1249	83.7%James Casey                   	$2	116	97	83.6%Kellen Winslow                	$6	207	173	83.6%Mark Sanchez                  	$7	219	183	83.6%Jonathan Baldwin              	$4	1296	1082	83.5%Michael Turner                	$18	545	455	83.5%Evan Royster                  	$3	2961	2472	83.5%Josh Cribbs                   	$3	115	96	83.5%Devery Henderson              	$4	1202	1003	83.4%Matt Bryant                   	$4	1343	1120	83.4%DeAngelo Williams             	$15	325	271	83.4%Blaine Gabbert                	$6	499	416	83.4%A.J. Jenkins                  	$2	48	40	83.3%Tarvaris Jackson              	$3	24	20	83.3%Brandon Lloyd                 	$18	2356	1962	83.3%Anthony Fasano                	$6	203	169	83.3%Nick Toon                     	$2	101	84	83.2%Matt Ryan                     	$19	4640	3857	83.1%Miami Dolphins                	$3	314	261	83.1%Justin Forsett                	$2	77	64	83.1%Devin Hester                  	$3	473	393	83.1%New Orleans Saints            	$3	1387	1152	83.1%Brandon Weeden                	$8	165	137	83.0%Pittsburgh Steelers           	$5	835	693	83.0%New York Giants               	$5	763	633	83.0%James Jones                   	$3	1320	1095	83.0%Minnesota Vikings             	$4	210	174	82.9%Kyle Rudolph                  	$11	1368	1132	82.7%Kendall Wright                	$6	1297	1073	82.7%Ryan Succop                   	$3	237	196	82.7%Lamar Miller                  	$3	104	86	82.7%Kellen Davis                  	$4	387	320	82.7%Chad Johnson                  	$4	23	19	82.6%Kevin Kolb                    	$7	23	19	82.6%LeRon McClain                 	$4	69	57	82.6%Peyton Hillis                 	$14	2131	1758	82.5%Garrett Hartley               	$6	564	465	82.4%Cleveland Browns              	$3	233	192	82.4%Alex Smith                    	$12	392	323	82.4%Darrius Heyward-Bey           	$16	267	220	82.4%Josh Gordon                   	$3	650	535	82.3%Andre Caldwell                	$5	62	51	82.3%Santana Moss                  	$8	549	451	82.1%Jeff King                     	$2	28	23	82.1%Jeremy Kerley                 	$3	28	23	82.1%Isaac Redman                  	$18	162	133	82.1%Evan Moore                    	$3	78	64	82.1%Steve Breaston                	$5	117	96	82.1%Jonathan Dwyer                	$4	1637	1343	82.0%Tim Tebow                     	$6	517	424	82.0%Andy Dalton                   	$14	283	232	82.0%Jermaine Gresham              	$13	632	518	82.0%Adrian Peterson               	$21	1584	1298	81.9%Doug Baldwin                  	$8	288	236	81.9%Taiwan Jones                  	$2	1716	1405	81.9%San Francisco 49ers           	$6	3198	2618	81.9%Matt Schaub                   	$13	2062	1688	81.9%Mohamed Sanu                  	$4	165	135	81.8%Neil Rackers                  	$3	252	206	81.7%LeGarrette Blount             	$6	574	469	81.7%Delone Carter                 	$4	71	58	81.7%Michael Floyd                 	$6	294	240	81.6%Mark Ingram                   	$14	582	475	81.6%Juron Criner                  	$3	141	115	81.6%Nate Kaeding                  	$4	878	716	81.5%Drew Brees                    	$29	1024	835	81.5%Ben Watson                    	$4	249	203	81.5%Shane Vereen                  	$6	416	339	81.5%Ryan Broyles                  	$2	361	294	81.4%Jason Snelling                	$2	167	136	81.4%Lance Kendricks               	$9	366	298	81.4%Justin Blackmon               	$7	3743	3047	81.4%Tony Scheffler                	$4	274	223	81.4%Eric Decker                   	$17	3652	2971	81.4%Danny Woodhead                	$5	193	157	81.3%New York Jets                 	$4	2024	1645	81.3%Michael Vick                  	$22	335	272	81.2%Zach Miller                   	$4	53	43	81.1%Doug Martin                   	$21	2552	2070	81.1%Jacoby Ford                   	$5	217	176	81.1%Jerome Simpson                	$7	539	437	81.1%Steve Smith                   	$5	1208	979	81.0%Stevan Ridley                 	$16	1382	1120	81.0%Robbie Gould                  	$3	2999	2428	81.0%Preston Parker                	$3	21	17	81.0%Matt Prater                   	$3	4989	4038	80.9%Kevin Smith                   	$12	1117	904	80.9%Chris Cooley                  	$2	131	106	80.9%Jake Locker                   	$9	2230	1804	80.9%Coby Fleener                  	$10	742	600	80.9%Chicago Bears                 	$5	804	650	80.8%Ed Dickson                    	$8	261	211	80.8%Denver Broncos                	$4	1033	835	80.8%Randall Cobb                  	$9	935	755	80.7%Rashad Jennings               	$9	1423	1149	80.7%Zach Miller                   	$6	284	229	80.6%Kansas City Chiefs            	$3	1514	1220	80.6%Lance Moore                   	$11	709	571	80.5%Kendall Hunter                	$6	872	702	80.5%Philadelphia Eagles           	$6	1000	805	80.5%Delanie Walker                	$2	82	66	80.5%David Nelson                  	$6	342	275	80.4%Robert Turbin                 	$6	658	529	80.4%Rian Lindell                  	$3	545	438	80.4%Chris Wells                   	$13	183	147	80.3%Bilal Powell                  	$4	705	566	80.3%Dallas Cowboys                	$5	314	252	80.3%Josh Freeman                  	$16	243	195	80.2%Randy Moss                    	$10	814	653	80.2%New England Patriots          	$5	982	787	80.1%Mikel Leshoure                	$9	1175	941	80.1%David Wilson                  	$9	2631	2105	80.0%Arizona Cardinals             	$4	300	240	80.0%Cecil Shorts                  	$3	5	4	80.0%Chad Henne                    	$5	5	4	80.0%Chaz Schilens                 	$3	15	12	80.0%Joseph Morgan                 	$3	40	32	80.0%Leon Washington               	$3	50	40	80.0%Nate Burleson                 	$8	250	200	80.0%Ronnie Hillman                	$11	260	208	80.0%Alex Henery                   	$4	893	714	80.0%Dan Carpenter                 	$3	374	299	79.9%Joe Flacco                    	$11	2151	1719	79.9%Michael Bush                  	$10	944	754	79.9%Kevin Ogletree                	$3	387	309	79.8%Peyton Manning                	$18	1317	1051	79.8%Donald Brown                  	$19	598	477	79.8%Oakland Raiders               	$4	252	201	79.8%Alshon Jeffery                	$6	973	776	79.8%Austin Collie                 	$9	597	475	79.6%Anquan Boldin                 	$12	406	323	79.6%Carson Palmer                 	$15	263	209	79.5%Torrey Smith                  	$16	2564	2035	79.4%Robert Meachem                	$13	193	153	79.3%Aaron Rodgers                 	$31	2559	2028	79.2%Matt Flynn                    	$8	106	84	79.2%Louis Murphy                  	$2	322	255	79.2%Daniel Thomas                 	$8	216	171	79.2%Shonn Greene                  	$20	120	95	79.2%Earl Bennett                  	$5	230	182	79.1%Pierre Garcon                 	$14	1840	1456	79.1%Houston Texans                	$5	1621	1282	79.1%Justin Medlock                	$3	477	377	79.0%Dustin Keller                 	$10	467	369	79.0%Lestar Jean                   	$3	381	301	79.0%Golden Tate                   	$7	90	71	78.9%Nate Washington               	$12	540	426	78.9%Detroit Lions                 	$6	464	366	78.9%Sebastian Janikowski          	$6	458	361	78.8%Matt Forte                    	$27	777	611	78.6%Jacquizz Rodgers              	$10	1422	1117	78.6%John Skelton                  	$7	452	355	78.5%Marques Colston               	$19	643	505	78.5%Randy Bullock                 	$4	340	267	78.5%Titus Young                   	$10	2548	2000	78.5%Jordan Shipley                	$3	65	51	78.5%Greg Olsen                    	$11	2072	1625	78.4%Joe McKnight                  	$7	23	18	78.3%Isaiah Pead                   	$6	303	237	78.2%Rob Bironas                   	$3	2539	1983	78.1%Jared Cook                    	$11	879	686	78.0%DeMarco Murray                	$24	1665	1299	78.0%Billy Cundiff                 	$4	159	124	78.0%Jacksonville Jaguars          	$3	326	254	77.9%Ahmad Bradshaw                	$21	387	301	77.8%Larry Fitzgerald              	$25	225	175	77.8%Jay Cutler                    	$17	1263	982	77.8%Emmanuel Sanders              	$7	247	192	77.7%Matthew Stafford              	$26	1625	1263	77.7%Kenny Britt                   	$13	2376	1846	77.7%Fred Jackson                  	$21	1563	1214	77.7%Deion Branch                  	$3	107	83	77.6%Jeremy Maclin                 	$17	778	603	77.5%Toby Gerhart                  	$13	262	203	77.5%Steven Jackson                	$22	1151	891	77.4%Jermichael Finley             	$16	745	575	77.2%Marcedes Lewis                	$7	210	162	77.1%Ryan Williams                 	$12	986	760	77.1%Tom Brady                     	$30	1186	914	77.1%Jacob Tamme                   	$13	1224	942	77.0%Vincent Brown                 	$6	298	229	76.8%Josh Scobee                   	$3	248	190	76.6%Brian Quick                   	$6	171	131	76.6%Dion Lewis                    	$4	98	75	76.5%Matt Hasselbeck               	$3	102	78	76.5%Arrelious Benn                	$3	80	61	76.3%Fred Davis                    	$14	1241	946	76.2%Clyde Gates                   	$2	21	16	76.2%Tony Romo                     	$20	466	355	76.2%Greg Jennings                 	$21	722	549	76.0%Lance Ball                    	$2	196	149	76.0%Javon Ringer                  	$4	162	123	75.9%Julius Thomas                 	$2	78	59	75.6%Julio Jones                   	$23	3675	2769	75.3%Ryan Mathews                  	$30	81	61	75.3%Stephen Hill                  	$6	115	86	74.8%Rob Housler                   	$4	161	120	74.5%Brandon Marshall              	$22	2361	1758	74.5%Tony Moeaki                   	$8	342	254	74.3%Darren McFadden               	$26	3291	2443	74.2%Roy Helu                      	$17	145	107	73.8%Andre Johnson                 	$24	454	335	73.8%Dez Bryant                    	$18	1621	1191	73.5%Jamaal Charles                	$24	651	478	73.4%Chris Johnson                 	$27	1636	1179	72.1%Aaron Hernandez               	$23	1481	1065	71.9%Dan Bailey                    	$5	376	270	71.8%Antonio Gates                 	$20	1852	1327	71.7%Brad Smith                    	$2	47	33	70.2%Marcel Reece                  	$6	29	20	69.0%David Ausberry                	$2	22	15	68.2%David Gettis                  	$3	44	30	68.2%Josh Brown                    	$3	44	30	68.2%Leonard Pope                  	$2	27	16	59.3%David Garrard                 	$6	11	6	54.5%

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'Bad_Mo said:

'QuizGuy66 said:

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

112812

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This entry is still alive.

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And Winslow is apparently going to sign with the Pats -QG

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Dude is just toying with us. Gonna show everyone how to win with a roster that cost a total of $121.

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'joffer said:

Who the #### is Jerrel Jergens?

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'Bad_Mo said:

'QuizGuy66 said:

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

112812

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This entry is still alive.

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And Winslow is apparently going to sign with the Pats -QG

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Dude is just toying with us. Gonna show everyone how to win with a roster that cost a total of $121.

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'dino259 said:

'Bad_Mo said:

'QuizGuy66 said:

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

112812

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This entry is still alive.

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And Winslow is apparently going to sign with the Pats -QG

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Dude is just toying with us. Gonna show everyone how to win with a roster that cost a total of $121.

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Guy probably started by selecting his cheap sleeper picks and forgot to come back and fill in the higher priced players. This is how I start my teams roster. Low value players and kicker/defense then fill in the higher priced guys.

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'Ignoratio Elenchi said:

Was looking for something in the 2011 thread and stumbled across this - more fodder for the "uniqueness" debate:

'BassNBrew said:

Made the final 250 for the first time ever. Thank you Floyd for coming back this week and even a bigger thank you Lord Stephens-Howling whose OT heorics were the difference at my flex postion.

I think I'm in the top 100 total scores for the year, however I have zero chance to finish in the big money. My roster is completely covered by the field...

Brady 13%, Stafford >50%

Wells 50%, Bush 30%, Tate >50%, Barber and Jones around 20%

VJ 30%, Floyd 20%, Moore 35%, Manningham 16%, Moore 40%, Brown >50%, Burleson >50%

Graham 40%, Kendricks 40%

Even my kickers and Ds are roughly around 20% ownership.

My only real difference makers are Brady and Pettigrew. The one commonly held guy that I don't have is Ray Rice and he's the one I would need to be competitive.

I think I'm pretty much locked into a 75th to 175th finish.

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If I recall correctly, BnB finished 9th overall.

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'jdoggydogg said:

I often speak in bold declaratives in this forum, so I'll try to be humble and ask an honest question with a bold font:

Did I totally blow it by paying for both Brees and Ryan?

I figured at 6 points per passing TD, one of those two guys would help me out every week.

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'FUBAR said:

'jdoggydogg said:

I often speak in bold declaratives in this forum, so I'll try to be humble and ask an honest question with a bold font:

Did I totally blow it by paying for both Brees and Ryan?

I figured at 6 points per passing TD, one of those two guys would help me out every week.

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We'll see at the end of the year. My initial thought is you could have used the money better elsewhere.

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'jdoggydogg said:

'FUBAR said:

'jdoggydogg said:

I often speak in bold declaratives in this forum, so I'll try to be humble and ask an honest question with a bold font:

Did I totally blow it by paying for both Brees and Ryan?

I figured at 6 points per passing TD, one of those two guys would help me out every week.

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We'll see at the end of the year. My initial thought is you could have used the money better elsewhere.

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I suppose my strategy was I'd have a top flight QB even if one of those guys is out for an extended period.

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'Mr. Soup Nazi said:

Over one third (238/693) of the B. Marshall/D. McFadden owners were eliminated.

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'Mr. Soup Nazi said:

Over one third (238/693) of the B. Marshall/D. McFadden owners were eliminated.

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'Chicago Hooligan said:

'Mr. Soup Nazi said:

Over one third (238/693) of the B. Marshall/D. McFadden owners were eliminated.

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TOTAL: 140.80CUTOFF: 139.60

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'butcher boy said:

'Chicago Hooligan said:

'Mr. Soup Nazi said:

Over one third (238/693) of the B. Marshall/D. McFadden owners were eliminated.

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TOTAL: 140.80CUTOFF: 139.60

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Barely making the cut each week is the best spot to be in. You want your guys to save their monster weeks for week 13+.

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'BroadwayG said:

'butcher boy said:

'Chicago Hooligan said:

'Mr. Soup Nazi said:

Over one third (238/693) of the B. Marshall/D. McFadden owners were eliminated.

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TOTAL: 140.80CUTOFF: 139.60

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Barely making the cut each week is the best spot to be in. You want your guys to save their monster weeks for week 13+.

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'BroadwayG said:

I have approached this contest with logic and reason for the past 5 years and have come up empty. I am going all faith based this year.

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'ctriopelle said:

'JoeSteeler said:

Anyone have an estimated cutoff?

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Drinen's sim has it under 137 80% of the time. Looks like the median sim estimate was about 130. Regardless of how actual scores went today if you're over 140 you should be plenty safe.

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'ctriopelle said:

'ctriopelle said:

'JoeSteeler said:

Anyone have an estimated cutoff?

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Drinen's sim has it under 137 80% of the time. Looks like the median sim estimate was about 130. Regardless of how actual scores went today if you're over 140 you should be plenty safe.

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Well, 140 wasn't plenty safe, but it was safe

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