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4 hours ago, DocHolliday said:

@Stompin' Tom Connors.  Well, do we just roll with Carr tonight or assume Ryan is playing.   I could drop Carr and pick up someone like Tannehill but that seems scary.   

Saw this late -- 20/20 hindsight, but Carr wouldn't have returned good fantasy dividends tonight.

I am all in on Ryan at this point -- with Engram out had to drop Jones to pick up a TE. If Rivers doesn't play, in a 14-team short-bench league, I am going to have to drop someone I really, really don't want to drop. 

Thoughts and prayers.

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8 hours ago, Stompin' Tom Connors said:

Saw this late -- 20/20 hindsight, but Carr wouldn't have returned good fantasy dividends tonight.

I am all in on Ryan at this point -- with Engram out had to drop Jones to pick up a TE. If Rivers doesn't play, in a 14-team short-bench league, I am going to have to drop someone I really, really don't want to drop. 

Thoughts and prayers.

I rolled out Carr and at least got something.  200 yards and a TD is nothing for Ryan but acceptable for a Carr start.   WW is empty.  Can't get a 0 if Ryan has a set back.  

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2 hours ago, whole-show said:

Quinn said Ryan will play Sunday with his sprained ankle per Vaughn McClure

Put him in your line ups.  I already played Carr and got my 1 TD.   

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Matt Ryan completed 20-of-35 passes for 182 yards, two touchdowns and an interception in the Falcons' 26-9, Week 10 win over the Saints.

Ryan didn’t need to force too much on Sunday, as the Falcons’ run game was able to rip off consistent gains throughout the afternoon. Ryan’s first score was a pretty eight-yard pass down the seam to Austin Hooper, while his second touchdown came from 10 yards out on a swing pass to Brian Hill. The performance marked the first time that Ryan played all four quarters and failed to throw for at least 300 yards this season. He has another tough matchup in Week 11 against the Panthers' run-funnel defense, but the Falcons' passing game should have bigger days moving forward.

 

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Matt Ryan completed 23-of-46 passes for 271 yards and one interception in the Falcons' Week 12 loss to the Bucs.

Ryan began the season with six-straight 300-yard games, but the offense has experienced major ups-and-downs since. Matty Ice now has three passing touchdowns in his last four games while battling with an injury, poor offensive line play, and downgraded pass-catching weapons. Ryan could compile garbage-time stats against the Saints next week, but he needs the offense to get healthier to reach a ceiling. Consider Ryan as a mid-range QB1.

 

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I'm not sold at this point.   Amazing drop in production compared to the beginning of the season.   

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Just now, DocHolliday said:

I'm not sold at this point.   Amazing drop in production compared to the beginning of the season.   

Yep

Killing me

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5 minutes ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

Yep

Killing me

Me too.  Can't sit back and hope either.   Think I'm going in a different direction this week.  Rather have Darnold this week and Tannehill in following weeks.   Point is that Ryan is struggling due to injuries on that O and it isn't working right now.   

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On 11/25/2019 at 10:58 AM, DocHolliday said:

Me too.  Can't sit back and hope either.   Think I'm going in a different direction this week.  Rather have Darnold this week and Tannehill in following weeks.   Point is that Ryan is struggling due to injuries on that O and it isn't working right now.   

I'm on the same boat and going to try and get both Darnold and Tannenhill this week and drop Ryan altogether.

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27 minutes ago, JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo said:

I'm on the same boat and going to try and get both Darnold and Tannenhill this week and drop Ryan altogether.

Was just coming in to see if I was crazy for thinking of just dropping him outright this week.  I started him the first 10 weeks and he was solid but it's been crap since then.  I think I can roll with Winston and either Jones or Tannehill or even Fitzmagic (@NYJ, @NYG, Cin) through the playoffs.  I don't see me starting him again and I can better use the depth at RB or WR or even a 2nd D to pair with NE given their tough schedule.

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Not sure how much $$$ ATL has tied up in Ryan and Julio... but it looks like a pretty bad investment.

You can't even count on garbage time points from these guys.

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51 minutes ago, JoeyJoJoJuniorShabadoo said:

I'm on the same boat and going to try and get both Darnold and Tannenhill this week and drop Ryan altogether.

I was carrying Carr to cover Ryan and held both to see how Ryan's ankle held up.   I'm going to hold Ryan but make the easy decision to drop Carr for Darnold or Tannehill.   Next week, I will consider dropping Ryan.  I don't want Ryan getting back to form for the playoffs and having him used against me.   Maybe Ryan misses his TE and RB?   

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2 hours ago, DocHolliday said:

I was carrying Carr to cover Ryan and held both to see how Ryan's ankle held up.   I'm going to hold Ryan but make the easy decision to drop Carr for Darnold or Tannehill.   Next week, I will consider dropping Ryan.  I don't want Ryan getting back to form for the playoffs and having him used against me.   Maybe Ryan misses his TE and RB?   

I'm scanning all the playoff teams in my league and I don't see Ryan really being anybody's need but this exactly was what was holding me back.

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Darnold and Tannehill are not options for me. Guys like Goff, Carr, and Daniel Jones are, with some other scrubs like Rivers and Trubisky.

At this point for me it may be ride or die as I can't see any of those options panning out.

Looks like I'll need to rely on garbage time to make a go out of Ryan -- Ryan got a full practice in, and looks like Freeman was limited, which is a start. Julio is only going through walk throughs at this point so I assume he'll sit. Hoping for the Saints to get ahead to force Ryan into catch-up mode. 

This is not the confidence I want in my QB going into the playoffs. Hope this turns around.

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1 hour ago, Stompin' Tom Connors said:

Darnold and Tannehill are not options for me. Guys like Goff, Carr, and Daniel Jones are, with some other scrubs like Rivers and Trubisky.

At this point for me it may be ride or die as I can't see any of those options panning out.

Looks like I'll need to rely on garbage time to make a go out of Ryan -- Ryan got a full practice in, and looks like Freeman was limited, which is a start. Julio is only going through walk throughs at this point so I assume he'll sit. Hoping for the Saints to get ahead to force Ryan into catch-up mode. 

This is not the confidence I want in my QB going into the playoffs. Hope this turns around.

Too bad that you can't snag Darnold now or Tannehill for the next couple of weeks.  Carr lost Renfroe and didn't have much at WR anyway.   Goff and Trubisky are simply not good.   Rivers is dropping off of a cliff.   The lack of o line has killed his value.   D Jones would be a fun gamble and should have his WRs back.   

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Probably crazy but Darnold was out there but I already had Ryan and Jones but despite only having 15 man rosters I am going to carry 3 QBs. I have clinched a playoff spot but a win this week gives me a bye. I don’t like Darnold matchups week 15 and 16. Just couldn’t drop Ryan

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43 minutes ago, lazyike said:

Probably crazy but Darnold was out there but I already had Ryan and Jones but despite only having 15 man rosters I am going to carry 3 QBs. I have clinched a playoff spot but a win this week gives me a bye. I don’t like Darnold matchups week 15 and 16. Just couldn’t drop Ryan

I'm not sold on Ryan but I know the potential is there and can't drop him either.   He could go off this week.  He is a good QB but I'm not getting burned again.   There seems to be better options right now.   I'm holding and will start him when Hooper is back. 

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I picked up Schaub in my 2QB league.  Ryan hasn't looked the same since his ankle injury and that OL is going to get him killed.  I worry they shut him down before week 17 being eliminated from the playoffs.  

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5 hours ago, Kwai Chang Caine said:

I gotta consider Foles over him in a win to get in scenario....

Depends on Julio.   If he is not 100%, seems like Ryan could really struggle.   Getting Freeman back does help though. 

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Starting this guy in a league that penalizes for sacks is no bueno.  That OL is horrendous and Ryan can't move at all.  

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7 hours ago, tjnc09 said:

Starting this guy in a league that penalizes for sacks is no bueno.  That OL is horrendous and Ryan can't move at all.  

I’ve never heard of that before 

I would not like that rule 

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On November 27, 2019 at 3:26 PM, Stompin' Tom Connors said:

Darnold and Tannehill are not options for me. Guys like Goff, Carr, and Daniel Jones are, with some other scrubs like Rivers and Trubisky.

At this point for me it may be ride or die as I can't see any of those options panning out.

Looks like I'll need to rely on garbage time to make a go out of Ryan -- Ryan got a full practice in, and looks like Freeman was limited, which is a start. Julio is only going through walk throughs at this point so I assume he'll sit. Hoping for the Saints to get ahead to force Ryan into catch-up mode. 

This is not the confidence I want in my QB going into the playoffs. Hope this turns around.

I didn't watch past the first quarter but Ryan's stats are a lot better than expected.   300 and 2 TDs is a nice score and impressive against that D without Jones and Hooper.   Probably going to regret my decision to sit him but am happy that he's on my roster.   

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46 minutes ago, DocHolliday said:

I didn't watch past the first quarter but Ryan's stats are a lot better than expected.   300 and 2 TDs is a nice score and impressive against that D without Jones and Hooper.   Probably going to regret my decision to sit him but am happy that he's on my roster.   

I gave up and went to bed in the 4th

Quite surprised this morning

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I wasn’t sold on this guy last year, when he threw the ball away on 4th & goal from the 10 yard-line, down by 7 on the game’s final drive.

It was such horrific situational awareness from a veteran QB.....made me wonder if this guy has a brain.  It’s 4th down.  The final drive.  You can’t throw that ball away. Gotta at least put it up for grabs.  

Anyway, this season is just more of the same.  Last night he had to get rid of the damn ball and stop taking sacks.  They had plenty of time to get down the field on that last drive.  8-to-10 yard passes would have been sufficient.

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3 hours ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

I’ve never heard of that before 

I would not like that rule 

I played in one like 15 years ago. Hated it.

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7 hours ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

I’ve never heard of that before 

I would not like that rule 

RBs and WRs get negative points for negative yardage... why shouldn't QBs?

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2 minutes ago, tjnc09 said:

RBs and WRs get negative points for negative yardage... why shouldn't QBs?

They do...for negative rushing yds

For example when a QB takes a knee to end the game it’s  -1 rush yd

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4 hours ago, Cowboysfan8 said:

They do...for negative rushing yds

For example when a QB takes a knee to end the game it’s  -1 rush yd

Yes.  If a QB gets sacked for negative yardage, it should be negative points.  Why should that position be exempt because it's not considered a run in the NFL?  

RB runs for -5 yards. -.5 points

QB gets sacked for -10 yards.  0 points? 😂 

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8 minutes ago, tjnc09 said:

Yes.  If a QB gets sacked for negative yardage, it should be negative points.  Why should that position be exempt because it's not considered a run in the NFL?  

RB runs for -5 yards. -.5 points

QB gets sacked for -10 yards.  0 points? 😂 

Ok I guess 

I’ve been playing ff for a pretty long time, I’ve never heard of it

I bet if you start a poll here 99.9% of leagues don’t have it

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Matt Ryan completed 20-of-34 passes for 314 yards and two touchdowns in the Falcons' Week 14 win over the Panthers.

The Falcons moved up and down the field with ease against a deflated Panthers defense. Ryan got the day started with a touchdown strike to Calvin Ridley, who was unfortunately carted to the locker room with an abdomen injury. That didn't slow him down, however. Ryan found an undrafted free agent for a 93-yard touchdown in the second half to seal the win. The Falcons offense continues to post strong offensive numbers despite the lost season. That could change with a road matchup against the 49ers on deck.

 

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