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QB Matt Ryan, IND (1 Viewer)
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lod01
Footballguy
Atrocious. Freeman standing all alone in plain view and he throws that pass towards Julio? WTF has happened to this guy? https://twitter.com/CraigSagerJr/status/673607394346299392
If he was a backup QB, he would have been benched by now.
If he was a backup QB, he would have been benched by now.
dipandglide
Footballguy
They really need a solid wr2. White is a ghost of himself, and Hank isn't very good. Hopefully they'll address this in the off season.
TZMarkie
Footballguy
Matty Ice is on the wire in one 10 man league I am in, I dropped him weeks ago, and no one has touched him.
Interestingly enough, this is a league where invariably a few teams will have two QBs also.
In another 12 man league, I dropped him a week ago, and he still sits on the wire there too.
I owned him last year on one championship team, and I knew he was hit and miss. Owning him can be frustrating.
Next year, I doubt I will have any shares of him anymore.
Seemed like he was one of those "mid to later" round QBs you could always grab and get fair value, when a bunch of those big names were gone.
I don't know I am looking to fade his bad weeks anymore, and his "value grab" years might just be over.
I know the team will likely try and improve him and the scenario, as he is obviously their guy.
Maybe he will be in a better position next season. Perhaps they get a better line, work on the problems etc.
I just don't see owning him anymore though, in standard 10 or 12 team leagues.
Looks like he is currently QB19 in standard, heading into the playoffs.
No thanks.
TZM
Interestingly enough, this is a league where invariably a few teams will have two QBs also.
In another 12 man league, I dropped him a week ago, and he still sits on the wire there too.
I owned him last year on one championship team, and I knew he was hit and miss. Owning him can be frustrating.
Next year, I doubt I will have any shares of him anymore.
Seemed like he was one of those "mid to later" round QBs you could always grab and get fair value, when a bunch of those big names were gone.
I don't know I am looking to fade his bad weeks anymore, and his "value grab" years might just be over.
I know the team will likely try and improve him and the scenario, as he is obviously their guy.
Maybe he will be in a better position next season. Perhaps they get a better line, work on the problems etc.
I just don't see owning him anymore though, in standard 10 or 12 team leagues.
Looks like he is currently QB19 in standard, heading into the playoffs.
No thanks.
TZM
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Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
What kills me about Ryan is I still think he could be elite, given the right circumstances.
I fear ATL has not created the right circumstances.
Or maybe I overrated him. One f the two. But he's had complete games - He's looked elite in spurts.
Not sure what to expect this year.
I fear ATL has not created the right circumstances.
Or maybe I overrated him. One f the two. But he's had complete games - He's looked elite in spurts.
Not sure what to expect this year.
HairySasquatch
Footballguy
I sold him for a 3rd round pick in my dynasty league....no faith in him.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
He plays for Kyle Shanahan. You shouldn't be sold on any QB who does that.
starks
Footballguy
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
I don't think this guy is a very good fantasy QB. Backup material at best imo
shader
Footballguy
update?
Many Falcons fans believe this system is finally a system that fits Ryan. He's currently the numero uno QB.
Dan Lambskin
Footballguy
Unbelievable. I had this turd last year and he did nothing. He still sucks though... pretty sure Matt Stafford has finished as a Top 5 QB before
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Ryan always showed flashes. He's never had this many weapons or a team that could run effectively.
He also reportedly spent the offseason working on the deep pass. Looks like it's paid off.
say what you will about the dude, he's putting up monster numbers. Before it was "yeah, hat was against the Saints & Raiders - just wait until he sees CAR & DEN. Yeah - won those games too. 503 yards against CAR with a 300 yard receiver.
Like him or hate him, Matt Ryan is having a career season. I expected him to be this good when I drafted him in 2013, 2014 & 2015 as my "free fall QB". Never came together - and last year I thought he'd regressed with all the red zone ints.
This year he looks like he's got something figured out. Dominating performances.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
He wasn't anywhere near this good. Lots of red zone interceptions, wasn't hitting Jjones on the deep passes, was struggling with his check downs and the OL wasn't anywhere near this solid.
I had to start him much of last year and watched him often - it's night and day compared to how he looks this year.
I am drinking the koolade.
dnurk
Footballguy
Anybody getting even a little nervous about him regressing a bit as the season goes on? Would have thought the matchup vs Sd at home would have yielded way more points for him. Mediocre stat line and it could have easily been worse with at least one more possible pick that Sd dropped.
How are Ryan owners feeling this week and going forward?
How are Ryan owners feeling this week and going forward?
They stalled in (or near) the redzone 3 times as usual when I start him. That was a 4 TD game that he should have had.
dnurk
Footballguy
Which was his biggest problem last year as well. The yards are always there every year. What made him an excellent start earlier this season was the TDs. Good point!
He doesn't have an easy schedule going forward either and N.O. is week 17 so that one is meaningless in my leagues.
wormburner
Footballguy
Ryan doing his typical late season cool down, Jones and Sanu both battling injuries. Anybody concerned with this trip to L.A.? Plan B for me is Carr at Arrowhead tonight. Coin toss . . . 
Sabertooth
Footballguy
Fantasy Football Fairy
Footballguy
Oh myRyan doing his typical late season cool down, Jones and Sanu both battling injuries. Anybody concerned with this trip to L.A.? Plan B for me is Carr at Arrowhead tonight. Coin toss . . .
Stompin' Tom Connors
Footballguy
Ryan leads his team convincingly to the SB.
/thread.
/thread.
That's a no brainer. Matt Ryan. Newton is garbage, There is some concern going forward obviously without Shanahan calling the O.
TheDirtyWord
Footballguy
I'm not getting why Ryan seems to be such a popular regression target for 2017. I get that folks are not predicting him to be as efficient as he was last year. There was a level of crazy to his play that does scream 'career year'. But...
1) He finished 17th in the NFL with 534 pass attempts. If he replicates that, it's likely because the Falcons offense is operating at close to the same level of efficiency. If his attempts go up, Ryan hasn't had a completion rate of below 66% since 2011.
2) OLine - yes, the Falcons were fortunate to have their OL start as a unit in every game. But with that said, for most of Ryan's career, the Falcons OL has not been nearly as highly regarded as it is now.
3) Weapons - in Ryan's career worst season in 2015, his #2 option was Roddy White...a clearly diminished, no one invited him to camp in 2016' Roddy White. Devonta Freeman was just emerging as a legit foundational RB and Tevin Coleman was a rookie. Fast forward to 2017, the Falcons:
- still have Julio...in his prime.
- Sanu, while maybe not a fantasy asset is a fine compliment on the other side. (Just an FYI, he may be having the best TC of any Falcon).
- the receiving capabaility of the Falcons backfield is unparalleled.. Freeman/Coleman combined for 85/883/5 in 2016. Both of them entering their prime.
- Taylor Gabriel was a gift via the WW who provided a jitterbug speed quotient to the Falcons offense.
- 2nd year TE, Austin Hooper has the opportunity to make that Year 1 to Year 2 leap.
I certainly understand the loss of Shanahan...but Ryan is entering his 10th year in the NFL. So he knows the league/defenses/coverages etc...as well as the best in the game. He's in his prime. His floor is high as is his ceiling.
So why is he such a popular 'avoid this guy' candidate?
1) He finished 17th in the NFL with 534 pass attempts. If he replicates that, it's likely because the Falcons offense is operating at close to the same level of efficiency. If his attempts go up, Ryan hasn't had a completion rate of below 66% since 2011.
2) OLine - yes, the Falcons were fortunate to have their OL start as a unit in every game. But with that said, for most of Ryan's career, the Falcons OL has not been nearly as highly regarded as it is now.
3) Weapons - in Ryan's career worst season in 2015, his #2 option was Roddy White...a clearly diminished, no one invited him to camp in 2016' Roddy White. Devonta Freeman was just emerging as a legit foundational RB and Tevin Coleman was a rookie. Fast forward to 2017, the Falcons:
- still have Julio...in his prime.
- Sanu, while maybe not a fantasy asset is a fine compliment on the other side. (Just an FYI, he may be having the best TC of any Falcon).
- the receiving capabaility of the Falcons backfield is unparalleled.. Freeman/Coleman combined for 85/883/5 in 2016. Both of them entering their prime.
- Taylor Gabriel was a gift via the WW who provided a jitterbug speed quotient to the Falcons offense.
- 2nd year TE, Austin Hooper has the opportunity to make that Year 1 to Year 2 leap.
I certainly understand the loss of Shanahan...but Ryan is entering his 10th year in the NFL. So he knows the league/defenses/coverages etc...as well as the best in the game. He's in his prime. His floor is high as is his ceiling.
So why is he such a popular 'avoid this guy' candidate?
