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he looked horrible most of the game until garbage time. Id take my chances on Bradford and Kelly figuring it out than 6 games of kap vs Seattle, stl, and ArizonaYes.so do you like him better ROS?Kaepernick just had a huge game.
Yeah some of your earlier posts were classic but it's only 2 games in. And hopefully you still have Rodgers
I already own Bradford and Kap. Bradford is going to the bench. I would rather take my chances with Kap. Something is wrong in Philly.he looked horrible most of the game until garbage time. Id take my chances on Bradford and Kelly figuring it out than 6 games of kap vs Seattle, stl, and ArizonaYes.so do you like him better ROS?Kaepernick just had a huge game.
Not like I'm in persuit, but if you're dropping him...
McGaw and I had a long back and forth about Bradford's time in StL early in this thread. I have been as critical of Bradford as anyone but I never said that he was terrible in StL. What he was is terribly mediocre at pretty much everything, yes even in 2013 with the ridiculously skewed TD numbers all his metrics were mediocre. Whether that was his fault or his supporting casts fault can be debated (truth likely falls in between as it always does) but the results cannot.However I do think people are abandoning ship way too quickly this season. His YPA is every bit as mediocre as it was in StL but his completion % has significantly improved and that is a big deal if it holds. Kelly put The Sanchize in position to drastically improve his career #s so I wouldn't slam the door on his ability to help Bradford do the same.
What do you hope for in buying low on Bradford, for him to emerge as a boom/bust qb2 like Sanchez? I agree with you that Sammy will at least improve his numbers, but I think you'll agree he won't emerge as a reliable qb1.
I don't agree with that at all. Kelly's offense can be very favorable for QBs and if it can turn Mark Sanchez into a legitimate QB1 then I see no reason why it can't do the same for Bradford.Declaring him a complete bust and cutting him after two games feels like a knee-jerk reaction.
At qb, our purposes differ an NFL team's. We have 12 starting, the NFL has 32. A middle of the road guy has very little use for us. A bust in our fantasy draft often is an 'ok' NFL qb.
I don't play in start 1QB leagues. I hate the way they marginalize QBs.I agree that there is reason for concern but Bradford missed the entire offseason program while rehabbing his knee. He has the arm talent to excel and he may simply be knocking the rust off. Either way it's too early to tell, which is unfortunate for the Eagles and fantasy players.
I agree here. Up-thread I wasn't intending to paint a picture of Bradford as awful, just taking exception to the one guy who called him "real good." He was, and is, mediocre IMO.
Strong arm, but still lacking in the subtle things. He's always lacked in the subtle things.
Nah, I think if they get this thing worked out Bradford will be a QB1, no question. This team was averaging 30 points per game last year. Sanchez is not as good as Bradford.
Actually we averaged 25 ppg if you take away the DST TDs. Still good enough for TOP 10 though.
wow, so he didn't blow up after two games and the book is almost closed? I couldn't disagree more with this assessment.
And we had 62 games worth of Sanchez before Chip got him.
Not sure what you mean here. It is actually a fact that Sam Bradford played in 49 games with the Rams and has played in two games with the Eagles. His time in STL is relevant, although there's a wide range of reasonable opinions on how relevant and what exactly were the reasons for his subpar performance there.
What I mean is that he has played, like you said, 2 games in this offense. I really don't care too much what he did on a crappy team devoid of oline and offensive weapons, with a different Offensive coordinator every year and defensive minded coaches.Coeur de Lion said:
Chaka said:
Possibly Carlos Sanchez is at least a better fit for Kelly's offense. The Dirty Sanchez didn't record 6.2 ypa, nor look as bad as Bradford over any two game stretch for the Eagles. He only had 1 bad game in 8; Bradford is 0/2 batting .000.Chaka said:
Yeah, I think that Philly will probably be fine too -- I'm just not sure whether it will be with Bradford or Sanchez under center. I'm not suggesting that it's time to give up on Bradford right now, just saying that he is showing the same flaws in 2015 that held him back with St. Louis, and pointing out that he has been far worse than any other QB that Chip has trotted out there from 2013-now. And with a competent backup on the bench, I'll be shocked if Bradford is still out there a month from now if he doesn't improve significantly.
Bradford was bad in the first half, excellent in the second half of the Atlanta game. Which is why Sunday's performance was so disappointing. He had such control over the offense in that second half. Methodically taking them up and down the field. I don't think any of us Eagle fans had a doubt that he was taking us to a victory before that pass went through Matthews' hands. Then against Dallas, he looked totally lost. Makes no sense.
no run game hurts too. Dallas is the #1 rush D in the nfl. With a bit more time, he would have done much better. Jets aren't gonna be any easier, but I see him improving immensely throughout the season.
Since Philly traded for him when they already had a perfectly good QB in Foles, you do expect Bradford to be much better from the start (not perfection like you say, but definitely not this either). It might not be fair to Bradford to expect him to catch on so quickly, but it is fair to be extremely critical of the team and their current situation. Philly is a team that was supposed to be able to contend, and Bradford was supposed to make them better, it would be a different story if they were in rebuilding mode, as patience would be warranted then. However, it looks like they may be heading into a rebuilding period due to Chump's offseason moves.ryno1980 said:
Okay.
Everyone on this thread needs to read that link.
