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I'd bet everything I have, ever had, and ever will have, on Obama. Are people totally insane?

I've never thought it was close. In fact, I got in early and have $1300 on him at even money.
Damn. Congrats.
:goodposting:I've got Obama to win, and to win several states (biggest bet is on Wisconsin, which is somehow inexplicably sitting at -135), but not at that good a price nor for that much money. Fivethirtyeight.com has him starting to pull away from Romney. I think it would take some weird, major event to reverse things.

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Barak Obama is a leader.

Mitt Romney is a really rich businessman.

A leader? Bowing to foreign kings? Having pelousy write his healthcare? Voting present over and over? Offering a budget so preposterous not even harry reid will vote for it?

I picture you standing on your stool and shaking your little child hand yelling at the adults, and cannot come to grasp what reality it is you think you reside in to ignore the writing on the wall.

Did you not see what happened in the elections of 2010? The state houses switching overwhelmingly to R, the recent Wisconsin lefty catastrophe?

I think you are so scared, or so far removed from reality, you can't see what is happening. Exactly what a typical lefty is like everyday.

I have $250 says the Republican ticket wins the election for president, the election is called the morning of nov 7th. Anything else happens, any shenanigans at all, bet is off.

DONE.

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RepubliNerds: let's go, put your money where your mouths are. I'm here and taking action.

$500, pm for details
Why PM for details? This offer good or no?

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RepubliNerds: let's go, put your money where your mouths are. I'm here and taking action.

$500, pm for details
This is at even odds? Edited by Premier

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RepubliNerds: let's go, put your money where your mouths are. I'm here and taking action.

$500, pm for details
This is at even odds?
Gonna be a line forming for that action.

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Hell no, the Cowboys Defense is going to rip him up

FOOTBALLL!!!!!!!!!!

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FOOTBALLL!!!!!!!!!!

:goodposting: You Romney folks should wait another week before placing your bets. Probably going to move from 2-1 to 7/2 or so if the Dems get a convention bounce. If not, you lose nothing by waiting.

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RepubliNerds: let's go, put your money where your mouths are. I'm here and taking action.

$500, pm for details
This is at even odds?
Gonna be a line forming for that action.
With all the posturing, no way cons make a bet at even odds. I'd take the dem side of that in a heartbeat. The electoral math is so strongly in O's favor. Romney needs to sweep almost all of the swing states to win.

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Romney needs to sweep almost all of the swing states to win.

How does one almost sweep?

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Good luck collecting on your internet bets.

are you saying H8tank is less than trustworthy? Edited by Fennis

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Romney needs to sweep almost all of the swing states to win.

How does one almost sweep?
I'll ask my wife....brb.

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Romney needs to sweep almost all of the swing states to win.

How does one almost sweep?
I'll ask my wife....brb.
:lol:

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Since you believe that Romney has no chance to win this election, Otis, that means you are obviously predicting a landslide win for Obama. I would never bet on the winner of this election, since I believe it will be very close. But I am willing to bet that it won't be a landslide. How many electoral votes will you give me?

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Romney needs to sweep almost all of the swing states to win.

How does one almost sweep?
I'll ask my wife....brb.
:goodposting:

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Romney needs to sweep almost all of the swing states to win.

How does one almost sweep?
Just think what it means to sweep the swing states, then subtract a few of them. Voila.

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I saw the Clinton ad for the first time tonight. It's good.

It's actually really bad.Clinton had a great economy because three generations of baby boomers overlapped a few times in their peak buying cycles while he was POTUS. Not any policy he put in place. And none that would work now because the boomers have finished their major purchases in life.Clinton, and then Bush, continued the Housing programs that made loans way too easy to get which insanely fueled the economic collapse.
:hophead:# The U.S. had 107 straight months of economic expansion under Clinton# 23 million jobs were created# Unemployment was 7.5% when he took office, it was 4% for most of his 2nd term and when he left office# By doing all that we reduced interest rates, reduced mortgage rates, reduced student loan rates. Everybody won.# Lowest poverty rate in the U.S. in 20 years# Helped stave off economic collapse of our neighbor to the south# Also sent economic team and helped draft plans for economic crisis in Asia in 1997 keeping world markets afloat
Thank you Baby Boomers!!
oofSome of you guys are just unable to come up with any sort of reasonable dialogue on this stuff. Makes this forum really hard to read sometimes.

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# signed off on lifting Glass-Stegal which was a prominent cause of the 2008 "calamity"

# Took the econimy on the road to recession in 2000-2001

Please show your work. You know Clinton left office in January 2001 right? :hophead:
http://www.nber.org/cycles/november2001/

recession begaan in March of 2001. Surely you don't believe that 6 weeks of W with no major W intiatives or budgets or tax policies in place caused a recession?

FAQs

Q: The NBER has dated the beginning of the recession in March 2001. Does this mean that the attacks of September 11 did not have a role in causing the recession?

A. No. Before the attacks, it is possible that the decline in the economy would have been too mild to qualify as a recession. The attacks clearly deepened the contraction and may have been an important factor in turning the episode into a recession.

Q: Regarding movements of income as an indicator of recessions, isn’t it true that real income has not fallen substantially during five of the past nine recessions.

A: That is why employment is probably the single most reliable indicator.

You should love Clinton, he was a "job creator," he reduced govt spending and he created a friendly corporate business environment that expanded the economy for a record 107 straight months. He was like a Republican President that actually did what his platform promised. :coffee:

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Oats, if you're not going to respond about offering odds, I'll also take action on an electoral over/under... what do you have in mind?

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For what it's worth, he's going to do what he can to raise your taxes.

Good! My wife and I don't make a lot of money, but I wouldn't mind paying more taxes if the people and corporations who made more money than me were also paying more and we greatly reduced military spending.I find it very telling that the people who are the most concerned with the deficit are also the people unwilling to actually make any personal sacrifices, instead insisting that education and other social services be cut. The famous picture of the woman at a tea party rally holding a 'Keep government out of my medicare' sign comes to mind.

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Why would he give odds? He's just giving 'it's Romney's to lose' folks a chance to back it up. It's a public service really.

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For what it's worth, he's going to do what he can to raise your taxes.

Good! My wife and I don't make a lot of money, but I wouldn't mind paying more taxes if the people and corporations who made more money than me were also paying more and we greatly reduced military spending.I find it very telling that the people who are the most concerned with the deficit are also the people unwilling to actually make any personal sacrifices, instead insisting that education and other social services be cut. The famous picture of the woman at a tea party rally holding a 'Keep government out of my medicare' sign comes to mind.
He wasn't talking to you. I find it very telling that you are a hack.

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I'd bet everything I have, ever had, and ever will have, on Obama. Are people totally insane?

I've never thought it was close. In fact, I got in early and have $1300 on him at even money.
When was he even money? and what book takes that much money on a prop bet?
He was even money sometime around last december.Every offshore site is offering this prop, pretty easy to get lots down, bookmaker is taking 5k bets and their sister site DSI is too so that's 10k without even looking too hard.

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I'm a Republican and I think the chances are slim. Bottom line, there are more who feel they are have nots than haves, and Obama is going to get a lion's share of that vote.

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I'm a Republican and I think the chances are slim. Bottom line, there are more who feel they are have nots than haves, and Obama is going to get a lion's share of that vote.

Obama also gets the lion's share of the super rich vote.

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For what it's worth, he's going to do what he can to raise your taxes.

Good! My wife and I don't make a lot of money, but I wouldn't mind paying more taxes if the people and corporations who made more money than me were also paying more and we greatly reduced military spending.I find it very telling that the people who are the most concerned with the deficit are also the people unwilling to actually make any personal sacrifices, instead insisting that education and other social services be cut. The famous picture of the woman at a tea party rally holding a 'Keep government out of my medicare' sign comes to mind.
if you don't make a lot of money you probably pay nothing. The rich, and so called rich, pay the taxes.

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I'd bet everything I have, ever had, and ever will have, on Obama. Are people totally insane?

I've never thought it was close. In fact, I got in early and have $1300 on him at even money.
When was he even money? and what book takes that much money on a prop bet?
He was even money sometime around last december.Every offshore site is offering this prop, pretty easy to get lots down, bookmaker is taking 5k bets and their sister site DSI is too so that's 10k without even looking too hard.
It was somewhere around November and few different bets since Sportsbook several bets that equaled the same thing.

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RepubliNerds: let's go, put your money where your mouths are. I'm here and taking action.

$500, pm for details
Why PM for details? This offer good or no?
its a bet as far as i'm concerned. unless you don't want it. But since you're running your mouth about republinerds and whatnot i figure $500 is nothing to an FBG from new york. Hell obama will probably bail you out if you lose anyhow, you're TOO BIG TO FAIL

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I think it will come down to the independents and what they decide to do. it seems like they are split about 80-20 for romney since the Clint eastwood speech. It is very tough for obama because of the economy and mitt romney is viewed as a successful business man. The independents will eat that up and ignore the partisan angles.

You're the totally insane dude who keeps casting your wife's and her friends' observations as "interesting" and "insightful," right? Oof.
All I know is what I hear and what I'm hearing is independent voters are really taking a long look at mitt romney. i don't know if that's interesting or insightful but it's what I have gathered from talking to over 70 independent voters.
How many of these did you talk to at Chick Fil-A at the protest?

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I have a Ruth Chris Steakhouse dinner bet on the election, was offered to me by a Ron Paul guy who thinks Mitch is gonna steal this. I just don't see it with his lack of support from women voters.

Edited by Doctor Detroit

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Why would he give odds? He's just giving 'it's Romney's to lose' folks a chance to back it up. It's a public service really.

:goodposting:

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RepubliNerds: let's go, put your money where your mouths are. I'm here and taking action.

$500, pm for details
Why PM for details? This offer good or no?
its a bet as far as i'm concerned. unless you don't want it. But since you're running your mouth about republinerds and whatnot i figure $500 is nothing to an FBG from new york. Hell obama will probably bail you out if you lose anyhow, you're TOO BIG TO FAIL
DONE

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RepubliNerds: let's go, put your money where your mouths are. I'm here and taking action.

$500, pm for details
Why PM for details? This offer good or no?
its a bet as far as i'm concerned. unless you don't want it. But since you're running your mouth about republinerds and whatnot i figure $500 is nothing to an FBG from new york. Hell obama will probably bail you out if you lose anyhow, you're TOO BIG TO FAIL
Is the store closed?

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Current odds on sportsbook

Obama -185

Romney +160

$500 bet on Romney could win $800

$500 bet on Obama could win $270

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Current odds on sportsbookObama -185Romney +160$500 bet on Romney could win $800$500 bet on Obama could win $270

Right, so why should anyone take Otis up on his offer. I'll be honest, I'm just looking for an arbitrage opportunity. But if Otis is sincere in his belief he should have no problem with 4-to-1 odds in line with the "expert" opinions.

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Current odds on sportsbookObama -185Romney +160$500 bet on Romney could win $800$500 bet on Obama could win $270

Right, so why should anyone take Otis up on his offer. I'll be honest, I'm just looking for an arbitrage opportunity. But if Otis is sincere in his belief he should have no problem with 4-to-1 odds in line with the "expert" opinions.
In what world is 8-5 the same as 4-1?

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Current odds on sportsbookObama -185Romney +160$500 bet on Romney could win $800$500 bet on Obama could win $270

Right, so why should anyone take Otis up on his offer. I'll be honest, I'm just looking for an arbitrage opportunity. But if Otis is sincere in his belief he should have no problem with 4-to-1 odds in line with the "expert" opinions.
Even if Otis believes Obama has a 100% chance of winning, why bet on Obama with you at -400 when he can get +100 from the other rubes on this board? Or -185 online?

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Oats just made himself $750 in this thread. That's some damned fine pot-stirring.

Payable in Chik-fil-a samiches.

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Oats just made himself $750 in this thread. That's some damned fine pot-stirring.

That's the easy part - let's see how much he collects after election day.
Good point. Republicans are usually welshers.

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Current odds on sportsbookObama -185Romney +160$500 bet on Romney could win $800$500 bet on Obama could win $270

Right, so why should anyone take Otis up on his offer. I'll be honest, I'm just looking for an arbitrage opportunity. But if Otis is sincere in his belief he should have no problem with 4-to-1 odds in line with the "expert" opinions.
Even if Otis believes Obama has a 100% chance of winning, why bet on Obama with you at -400 when he can get +100 from the other rubes on this board? Or -185 online?
:shrug: Otis is the one who stated he'd be 'everything he had' that 'Romney has less of a chance to win this thing than Clint Eastwood'. I'm just giving Otis the opportunity to put his money where his mouth is.

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Current odds on sportsbookObama -185Romney +160$500 bet on Romney could win $800$500 bet on Obama could win $270

Right, so why should anyone take Otis up on his offer. I'll be honest, I'm just looking for an arbitrage opportunity. But if Otis is sincere in his belief he should have no problem with 4-to-1 odds in line with the "expert" opinions.
Even if Otis believes Obama has a 100% chance of winning, why bet on Obama with you at -400 when he can get +100 from the other rubes on this board? Or -185 online?
:shrug: Otis is the one who stated he'd be 'everything he had' that 'Romney has less of a chance to win this thing than Clint Eastwood'. I'm just giving Otis the opportunity to put his money where his mouth is.
Sorry, I'm too busy making free money to bother with your GambleNerd wagers.

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Current odds on sportsbookObama -185Romney +160$500 bet on Romney could win $800$500 bet on Obama could win $270

Right, so why should anyone take Otis up on his offer. I'll be honest, I'm just looking for an arbitrage opportunity. But if Otis is sincere in his belief he should have no problem with 4-to-1 odds in line with the "expert" opinions.
Even if Otis believes Obama has a 100% chance of winning, why bet on Obama with you at -400 when he can get +100 from the other rubes on this board? Or -185 online?
:shrug: Otis is the one who stated he'd be 'everything he had' that 'Romney has less of a chance to win this thing than Clint Eastwood'. I'm just giving Otis the opportunity to put his money where his mouth is.
Hyperbole down?

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Current odds on sportsbookObama -185Romney +160$500 bet on Romney could win $800$500 bet on Obama could win $270

Right, so why should anyone take Otis up on his offer. I'll be honest, I'm just looking for an arbitrage opportunity. But if Otis is sincere in his belief he should have no problem with 4-to-1 odds in line with the "expert" opinions.
Even if Otis believes Obama has a 100% chance of winning, why bet on Obama with you at -400 when he can get +100 from the other rubes on this board? Or -185 online?
Implied pot odds.

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