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What's the correct scoring rule on Mastay's TD shovel pass on Special Teams last night? Is it not a Green Bay DEF/ST score ?
FBG Players championship league does not count it as a TD fro D/ST, kinda surprised.What's the correct scoring rule on Mastay's TD shovel pass on Special Teams last night? Is it not a Green Bay DEF/ST score ?
I thought it would be but it looks like it's just considered an offensive TD Pass..What's the correct scoring rule on Mastay's TD shovel pass on Special Teams last night? Is it not a Green Bay DEF/ST score ?
Unless your league SPECIFICALLY calls it a score for Def/ST, it shouldn't count as such. It's no different than if Tim Tebow comes in on a wildcat play and throws a TD pass. Just because Sanchez isn't the QB, doesn't make it a D/ST score.What's the correct scoring rule on Mastay's TD shovel pass on Special Teams last night? Is it not a Green Bay DEF/ST score ?
When you look at the league leaders how many TD passes does Mastay have this year?I thought it would be but it looks like it's just considered an offensive TD Pass..What's the correct scoring rule on Mastay's TD shovel pass on Special Teams last night? Is it not a Green Bay DEF/ST score ?
4th down is an offensive play unless the ball is kicked through the uprights.
Yea that should be true. It was a passing play.Those leagues that use team QBs should score it to Grean Bay Team QB.
4th down is an offensive play unless the ball is kicked through the uprights.
Sure if you ignore punts4th down is an offensive play unless the ball is kicked through the uprights.
No that was an offensive play. Do field goals count' towards ST scoring?What's the correct scoring rule on Mastay's TD shovel pass on Special Teams last night? Is it not a Green Bay DEF/ST score ?
Not ignoring punts, I just assumed striking the ball with a foot is considered a 'kick'Sure if you ignore punts4th down is an offensive play unless the ball is kicked through the uprights.
u must not be familiar with what a punt is.Sure if you ignore punts4th down is an offensive play unless the ball is kicked through the uprights.
i just realize i got a score for that in my anarchy league.Those leagues that use team QBs should score it to Grean Bay Team QB.See post #5 for individual QB leagues.
Not true. It just has to be kicked past the line of scrimmage.4th down is an offensive play unless the ball is kicked through the uprights.
Punt returns are special teams and do not go through the uprights.Not ignoring punts, I just assumed striking the ball with a foot is considered a 'kick'Sure if you ignore punts4th down is an offensive play unless the ball is kicked through the uprights.
That is why I struck out the through the uprights part.Punt returns are special teams and do not go through the uprights.Not ignoring punts, I just assumed striking the ball with a foot is considered a 'kick'Sure if you ignore punts4th down is an offensive play unless the ball is kicked through the uprights.
already been discussed but no.. this is not a Defensive/ST touchdown..Was the touchdown pass thrown by the Green Bay punter a Special Teams TD. This seems a no-brainer but CBS Sportsline did not update it as a DST TD and now it is up for debate in the league. In case you missed the play, Green Bay lined up for a field goal, snapped it to the holder (Green Bay punter) and he flipped it to the TE who ran it in. Thoughts.
no. it was a td pass from the holder to that te. if someone started those people they should get the points (ie if crosby threw the td he would get the td not the dst).really that is just an offensive play like any other play going for it on 4th down. just because it appears that a special teams play is aout to happen (ie punt, fg, etc) does not mean it is automatically so.dst points are from returns or defense. that play was neither.Was the touchdown pass thrown by the Green Bay punter a Special Teams TD. This seems a no-brainer but CBS Sportsline did not update it as a DST TD and now it is up for debate in the league. In case you missed the play, Green Bay lined up for a field goal, snapped it to the holder (Green Bay punter) and he flipped it to the TE who ran it in. Thoughts.
I can think of 2 other scenarios where the D/ST is on the field. One is obvious, the other is not.Your D/ST is not involved unless:A) the other team is snapping the ball from scrimmage, orB) the other team is kicking off, orC) there is a change of possession, and the other team fumbles/muffs during the ensuing return.
I just asked about this in the Mock Draft Forum in the Anarchy Top 10 thread thing....Bass said no dice on Team QB getting points....?i just realize i got a score for that in my anarchy league.Those leagues that use team QBs should score it to Grean Bay Team QB.See post #5 for individual QB leagues.
I like this line of thinking.We have a special rule in my 12 Year Re-Draft that gimmick plays like this on a Fake FG or Fake Punt do in fact count for 6 pts for your D/ST unit.
But yeah, if you don't have a rule like that -- you're out of luck, this is just a touchdown pass from a goofy formation.
We always thought they were too exciting and cool a play to not reward your D/ST unit, so we made the rule around 2003.
Yes it wasPretty sure this question gets asked every year.Offensive TD.
It is a pass attempt/TD for Mashtay and a reception/TD for the TEIt is NOT a special teams play when they change from kick team to regular offensive playWhat's the correct scoring rule on Mastay's TD shovel pass on Special Teams last night? Is it not a Green Bay DEF/ST score ?
We're listeningI can think of 2 other scenarios where the D/ST is on the field. One is obvious, the other is not.Your D/ST is not involved unless:A) the other team is snapping the ball from scrimmage, orB) the other team is kicking off, orC) there is a change of possession, and the other team fumbles/muffs during the ensuing return.
By this line of thinking, the D/ST gets points for FGs and extra points, too, then.We've gone over this a million times.According to the NFL, this is not a D/ST touchdown. It's just a regular offensive touchdown, with Masthay playing quarterback. If you use the "Team QB" position, then you will get the points for your QB.Most fantasy football leagues will NOT credit this TD to the D/ST, simply because they choose to strictly interpret the NFL rules. But in my opinion, that's a mistake. I think that TDs like this should be credited to the D/ST. The fantasy football world needs to stop living by the NFL's terminology and think outside the box once in a while. The D/ST was on the field, therefore the D/ST should be rewarded with the points.
because that is exactly what is was.I thought it would be but it looks like it's just considered an offensive TD Pass..What's the correct scoring rule on Mastay's TD shovel pass on Special Teams last night? Is it not a Green Bay DEF/ST score ?
think of it this way. when a team lines up for a fg, the dst is not getting any points in any scenario.pretty simple.By this line of thinking, the D/ST gets points for FGs and extra points, too, then.We've gone over this a million times.According to the NFL, this is not a D/ST touchdown. It's just a regular offensive touchdown, with Masthay playing quarterback. If you use the "Team QB" position, then you will get the points for your QB.Most fantasy football leagues will NOT credit this TD to the D/ST, simply because they choose to strictly interpret the NFL rules. But in my opinion, that's a mistake. I think that TDs like this should be credited to the D/ST. The fantasy football world needs to stop living by the NFL's terminology and think outside the box once in a while. The D/ST was on the field, therefore the D/ST should be rewarded with the points.
He was the QB for that play. The ball was snapped directly to him.why would TEAM QB get a TD pass there? If a halfback throws a TD does TEAM QB get a TD? Mastay is a Punter not a QB.
I'm guessing a fair catch kick. Which, incidentally, is going to start happening more often with the new onside kick rules.We're listeningI can think of 2 other scenarios where the D/ST is on the field. One is obvious, the other is not.Your D/ST is not involved unless:A) the other team is snapping the ball from scrimmage, orB) the other team is kicking off, orC) there is a change of possession, and the other team fumbles/muffs during the ensuing return.
X4th down is an offensive play unless the ball is kicked through the uprights.
Past the line of scrimmage is the rule. Not just "kicked", and it doesn't have to go "through the uprights" either.Not true. It just has to be kicked past the line of scrimmage.4th down is an offensive play unless the ball is kicked through the uprights.
This seems silly. So if Tomlinson lined up as QB in a wildcat formation and threw a TD, the TEAM QB owner would get pts for the TD and not the Tomlinson owner?He was the QB for that play. The ball was snapped directly to him.why would TEAM QB get a TD pass there? If a halfback throws a TD does TEAM QB get a TD? Mastay is a Punter not a QB.
I would think so, but the whole idea of Team QB seems silly to me.This seems silly. So if Tomlinson lined up as QB in a wildcat formation and threw a TD, the TEAM QB owner would get pts for the TD and not the Tomlinson owner?He was the QB for that play. The ball was snapped directly to him.why would TEAM QB get a TD pass there? If a halfback throws a TD does TEAM QB get a TD? Mastay is a Punter not a QB.
me too. I was just curious.I would think so, but the whole idea of Team QB seems silly to me.This seems silly. So if Tomlinson lined up as QB in a wildcat formation and threw a TD, the TEAM QB owner would get pts for the TD and not the Tomlinson owner?He was the QB for that play. The ball was snapped directly to him.why would TEAM QB get a TD pass there? If a halfback throws a TD does TEAM QB get a TD? Mastay is a Punter not a QB.
Would that be such a bad thing? Most FF leagues give double points when an offensive player scores a TD on a kick return, right? Why not apply the same logic to the kicking game? Or just eliminate the Kicker position altogether and apply all kicking points to the D/ST.By this line of thinking, the D/ST gets points for FGs and extra points, too, then.We've gone over this a million times.According to the NFL, this is not a D/ST touchdown. It's just a regular offensive touchdown, with Masthay playing quarterback. If you use the "Team QB" position, then you will get the points for your QB.Most fantasy football leagues will NOT credit this TD to the D/ST, simply because they choose to strictly interpret the NFL rules. But in my opinion, that's a mistake. I think that TDs like this should be credited to the D/ST. The fantasy football world needs to stop living by the NFL's terminology and think outside the box once in a while. The D/ST was on the field, therefore the D/ST should be rewarded with the points.