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QB Matt Stafford, LAR (1 Viewer)
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Quite possibly the best QB on bad teams for most of his career, that I can remember anyway. At least he had Calvin for a while.Ilov80s said:
rockaction
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I really like the guy, but it seems to be that all signs point to average NFL QB, which is not easily replaceable, and is quite impressive in its own right. He's had some really good years, but for the most part...
grateful zed
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hof?
Yes and if I may relate something that drove how awful the Lions are to me last night. I read an article from a beat writer about the top Lions prospects under 25. Now considering their immediate future is not so bright and they've been drafting middle to high most years I anticipated seeing a decent list. Yikes!!!Ilov80s said:
Hockenson was #1. Kerryon, a RB who the beat writer said might have comp atop the depth chart checked in at 4. Scarbrough, who they just signed off the scrap heap in middle of the season ranked as their 9th best prospect under 25.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Everyone thinks either the lions or the staffords are starting these rumors, but I'm pretty sure it's someone in the local media reaching for a story. Not exactly a lot of big stories going on in a rebuilding sports city.
Ilov80s
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Deamon
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Footballguy
Offense when healthy would support a playoff bound team.
Defense was atrocious and if a fan you have to hope that a new coordinator and influx of new players would result in improvement.
Based on Quinn/Patricia's past decisions and performance I would think that the playoffs are not the most likely choice. But if you are looking for hope remember the Lions lost to KC in KC in the last minute of that game and the offense was a good one.
Defense was atrocious and if a fan you have to hope that a new coordinator and influx of new players would result in improvement.
Based on Quinn/Patricia's past decisions and performance I would think that the playoffs are not the most likely choice. But if you are looking for hope remember the Lions lost to KC in KC in the last minute of that game and the offense was a good one.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
Lions do occasionally give us that glimmer of hope. Then Lucy once again pulls away the ball just as they are about to win for a change.
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
and In leagues of 12 or less, he might be the best backup himself.
https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/rankings/qb-cheatsheets.php
Leroy Hoard
Footballguy
I'm a big fan of anyone with talent in a situation that has some continuity, what with the limited off season time this year. Rookies and QBs changing teams will have an even higher uphill battle than usual imo.
Ilov80s
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rockaction
Footballguy
Love Stafford. TPW for he and his wife.
I-ROK
Footballguy
Why? Is she undergoing chemo treatment? I thought she had surgery. I don’t believe that puts her at any higher risk unless she is under chemo treatment, which I don’t believe she is. I could be wrong
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I don't know the details obviously, but I believe it was just a tumor removed. I don't think she had cancer. However, we don't know her full health picture. It was a pretty scary thing to happen to someone so young. I know she had a lot of recovering, PT and other things. I had a friend who had a tumor when he was about 25. It was scary and like Mrs. Stafford, he was facing the real risk of death. The tumor was removed successfully but it caused some sort of brain damage because afterwards he had a total personality change. He dumped his fiance, dropped out of school, stopped going to Church, started drinking regularly, getting lots of tattoos and went from being a super easy going guy to a bit of a confrontational jerk. There can be all kinds of side effects when we have to start operating on the brain. They also have a newborn baby and 3 other kids under the age of 4 plus all the money they could ever need. If I were him, I would be very seriously considering taking the year off.
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I-ROK
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I guess I don’t understand why. Yes, it was a scarlet tumor but it’s gone now. Assuming COVID would cause it to come back is a reach, and I don’t recall people who had any kinds of surgeries being high risk for complications if they contracted COVID, unless it was medications that lowered ones immune response.
If covid wasn’t a thing, should he consider taking the year off anyways due to her surgery? I could see that, but she also had a baby since then, which is pretty taxing on ones body in general.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
A pandemic is the kind of the thing that could change people's perspectives on things. It has very little to do with her being potentially more or less at risk. I am a teacher and if I was worth $100 million, had 4 young kids and a wife who just had a major health scare that would be enough for me to say, "I'm not going back to school this year" and step down from my job until we have more knowledge of the disease and have it under control.
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I-ROK
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Ilov80s said:
Many of the stars make more money on endorsements than from actually playing. When you make millions, chances are you have a bigger house, more expensive cars, and in general a lifestyle that is more than someone making 150k. Opting out might hurt them more in the long term from a financial stability standpoint. Not to mention the PR fallout. There’s a reason no franchise stars have opted out.
You also have to consider the eventual early expiration date/retirement age for these guys comparable to those of us not professional athletes. Their time is only so much.
Your overall point is a good one, that this can change perspectives for people. We were shut down completely and furloughed at my job this year and one of my close coworkers opted to stay home with her kids instead of come back to work. She enjoyed that time and her husband has a really good job. That’s fine and it’s probably the right decision for her.
NFL players may very well have this same realization of what’s important in their lives, and that’s great, but singling out Stafford because his wife had surgery on and has fully recovered from a brain tumor seems a little odd to me. If he was going to walk away from sports because of a change of perspective following his wife’s diagnosis, he could have done it just as easily before covid. This disease shouldn’t change his perspective at all. The risks to his family are very small.
Matt Stafford stands to count 21.3 million against the cap this year. 150k is 0.7% of his salary.
I’m not even sure what a teacher makes these days, but let’s say 100k. Would you stay home if they offered you $7,000 to stay home? I doubt it.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
I doubt he sits out- no signs of that at all. We also don't know if he tested positive or was just potentially exposed. No point in debating it, we don't know him and don't know all the details of her health. We also assume his 4 young children are healthy but we don't know for sure there either. I will say, comparing a teacher to Stafford and $7,000 is ridiculous. Of course he has more expenses than I do. He has also already made $204 million. His situation is a bit unique for the NFL where he has made a massive amount of money, is still young with a large young family, etc. Very few players his age have made anywhere close the kind of fortune he has or have the family he does. I hope he is well and his kids are well and whatever decision he makes, works out for the best.
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I-ROK
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I don’t think it’s ridiculous. It’s an apples to apples comparison.
Ask anyone if they would take a year making 0.7% of their normal salary, and not have to make major sacrifices to their life styles. I would imagine the vast majority of them would say no.
Just because Stafford has made hundreds of millions doesn’t mean he can walk away from 20more. Just the same as you couldn’t walk away from 99.3% of your salary
I-ROK
Footballguy
I think this is a common misconception regarding athletes.
Stafford hasn’t personally taken home 200 million. He wants to set his kids and grandkids up for life I’m sure, plus philanthropic ventures and family. He also may have many bills for his wife’s health care. Factor in his life style. Taxes. Agent fees. Granted many of us would take whatever the net take home is in a heart beat, but I doubt he is going for a swim in his money pool every morning like Scrooge McDuck, and I imagine he would have to make some significant sacrifice of his current lifestyle to walk away from 21 million for a year
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